[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Ah, nice, might I suggest contacting Glenn http://github.com/glennSilverman as he has a good start on it. On Sep 19, 2:38 am, David Pollak wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Randinn wrote: > > > Is there a example of this as of yet? > > No, but I'm planning to spend October (and perhaps part of November) > off-list (which is now consuming 3/4 of my day every day). A CMS is on my > to-do list. > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 1:03 am, David Pollak > > wrote: > > > FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I > > may > > > knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett > >wrote: > > > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use > > the > > > > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a > > single > > > > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set > > of > > > > tags: > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > > > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > > > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > > > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > > > > can be fitted together. > > > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > > > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > > > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > > > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > > > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > > > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > > > > tag might be > > > > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > > > -- Ewan > > > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > > > > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with > > Alfresco > > > > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > > > > > >> Terry J. Leach > > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott > > wrote: > > > > > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > > > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > > > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > > > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > > > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in > > Java > > > > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it > > claims > > > > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > > > >>> Some on-line demos here: > > > > > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > > > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > > > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > > > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > > > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > > > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they > > offer > > > > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > > > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > > > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > > > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take > > CSS > > > > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > > > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > > > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal > > has > > > > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules > > which > > > > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > > > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > > > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > > > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a > > few > > > > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > > > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > > > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > > > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a > > jumbled > > > > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited > > (!), > > > > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on > > last- > > > > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the > > admin > > > > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which > > is > > > > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > > > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and s
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Randinn wrote: > > Is there a example of this as of yet? > No, but I'm planning to spend October (and perhaps part of November) off-list (which is now consuming 3/4 of my day every day). A CMS is on my to-do list. > > On Aug 20, 1:03 am, David Pollak > wrote: > > FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I > may > > knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use > the > > > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a > single > > > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set > of > > > tags: > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > > > can be fitted together. > > > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > > > tag might be > > > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > > > -- Ewan > > > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > > > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with > Alfresco > > > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > > > > > >> Terry J. Leach > > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott > wrote: > > > > > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > > > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in > Java > > > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it > claims > > > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > > > >>> Some on-line demos here: > > > > > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > > > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they > offer > > > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > > > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take > CSS > > > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal > has > > > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules > which > > > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a > few > > > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a > jumbled > > > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited > (!), > > > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on > last- > > > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the > admin > > > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which > is > > > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame > war > > > >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > > > > >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > > > >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > > > >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatical
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
javax.script glenn wrote: > I think the trick to a really vibrant CMS is the ability to create > plugins - modules in > Lift that can be dynamically installed. I'm not sure how to affect > this except through > OSGi. > > On Aug 19, 8:55 am, TylerWeir wrote: >> Wonderful! >> >> On Aug 19, 11:03 am, David Pollak >> wrote: >> >>> FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I may >>> knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett >>> wrote: Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a single page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of tags: Cheers, Tim On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > can be fitted together. > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > tag might be > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > Just some thoughts > -- Ewan > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco >> or any other open source Java based CMS. >> Terry J. Leach >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) >>> Some on-line demos here: >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have >>> something like this too. >>> LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. >>> Since it's wr
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Is there a example of this as of yet? On Aug 20, 1:03 am, David Pollak wrote: > FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I may > knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett > wrote: > > > > > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the > > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a single > > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of > > tags: > > > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > > can be fitted together. > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > > tag might be > > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > -- Ewan > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco > > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > > > >> Terry J. Leach > > > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > > > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > >>> Some on-line demos here: > > > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > > >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > > >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > > >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > > >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > > >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > > >>> something like this too. > > > >>> LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > > >>> Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > > >>> could be leveraged in Scala. > > > >>> So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > > >>> (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when buil
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I think the trick to a really vibrant CMS is the ability to create plugins - modules in Lift that can be dynamically installed. I'm not sure how to affect this except through OSGi. On Aug 19, 8:55 am, TylerWeir wrote: > Wonderful! > > On Aug 19, 11:03 am, David Pollak > wrote: > > > FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I may > > knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett > > wrote: > > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the > > > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a > > > single > > > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of > > > tags: > > > > > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > > > can be fitted together. > > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > > > tag might be > > > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > > -- Ewan > > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > > > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco > > > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > > > > >> Terry J. Leach > > > > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > > > > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > > > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > > > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > > >>> Some on-line demos here: > > > > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > > > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > > > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > > > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > > > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > > > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > > > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > > > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > > > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > > > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > > > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > > > >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > > > >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > > > >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > > > >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > > > >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > > >
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Wonderful! On Aug 19, 11:03 am, David Pollak wrote: > FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I may > knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett > wrote: > > > > > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the > > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a single > > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of > > tags: > > > > > > Cheers, Tim > > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > > can be fitted together. > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > > tag might be > > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > -- Ewan > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco > > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > > > >> Terry J. Leach > > > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > > > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > >>> Some on-line demos here: > > > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > > >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > > >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > > >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > > >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > > >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > > >>> something like this too. > > > >>> LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > > >>> Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > > >>> could be leveraged in Scala. > > > >>> So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > > >>> (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftw
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
FWIW... I got roped into hosting a CMS by the PTA of my kids' school. I may knock something together in Lift or leverage off the work Glenn has done. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > > Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the > lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a single > page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of > tags: > > > > Cheers, Tim > > On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > > > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > > can be fitted together. > > > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > > tag might be > > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > > > Just some thoughts > > > > -- Ewan > > > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco > >> or any other open source Java based CMS. > >> > >> Terry J. Leach > >> > >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > >> > >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > >> > >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) > >> > >>> Some on-line demos here: > >> > >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > >> > >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > >> > >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > >> > >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > >>> something like this too. > >> > >>> LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > >>> Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > >>> could be leveraged in Scala. > >> > >>> So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > >>> (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. > >> > >>> - Stefan Scott > >> > >>> On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: > >> > Philip, > >> > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for cont
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Just my two cents, but I wouldn't use the lift namespace... If you use the lift tags OOTB, you risk designers shoving lots of comet actors on a single page. You would get more granular control if you created a special set of tags: Cheers, Tim On 18/08/2009 23:00, "Ewan" wrote: > > I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both > Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the > case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the > content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they > can be fitted together. > > For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built > in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served > from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ > maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an > associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web > guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A > tag might be > which would render the last five news items in ascending order. > > Just some thoughts > > -- Ewan > > On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: >> I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco >> or any other open source Java based CMS. >> >> Terry J. Leach >> >> On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: >> >>> I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. >> >>> I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm >>> moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and >>> more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of >>> SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java >>> instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims >>> to offer collaboration and social networking.) >> >>> Some on-line demos here: >> >>> MODx -http://trymodx.com/ >>> SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ >>> TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html >>> Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ >>> LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home >> >>> It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer >>> some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. >> >>> Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the >>> best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less >>> flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS >>> from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you >>> apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme >>> applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has >>> evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which >>> are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things >>> that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the >>> "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), >>> multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few >>> days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I >>> could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content >>> management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a >>> *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled >>> *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), >>> with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- >>> edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin >>> navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is >>> prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of >>> course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war >>> here in this liftweb discussion. :-) >> >>> Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has >>> something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected >>> branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any >>> updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have >>> something like this too. >> >>> LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. >>> Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code >>> could be leveraged in Scala. >> >>> So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind >>> (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. >> >>> - Stefan Scott >> >>> On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: >> Philip, >> I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content creation using wymeditor, which can be tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is this kind of what you have in mind by a CMS system. >> I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I've been scratching my head about that one too. I have used both Alfresco and opencms to produce both dynamic and static and in the case of dynamic they have their own servlet/filter to render the content - I've not yet spent enough time working out how and if they can be fitted together. For me, having used Hybris (J2EE ecommerce engine with some CMS built in), I'd like to be able to have page fragments in a template served from "the CMS" (lift snippets presumably) that would be created/ maintained with some aspect of workflow by CMS user(s) in an associated CMS lift webapp with funky (X)HTML editor support. My web guys, non-lift devs, can then sprinkle cms tags where appropriate. A tag might be which would render the last five news items in ascending order. Just some thoughts -- Ewan On Aug 18, 10:09 pm, "Terry J. Leach" wrote: > I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco > or any other open source Java based CMS. > > Terry J. Leach > > On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > > > I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > > I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > > moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > > more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > > SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > > instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > > to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > > Some on-line demos here: > > > MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > > SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > > TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > > Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > > LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > > It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > > some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > > Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > > best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > > flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > > from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > > apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > > applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > > evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > > are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > > that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > > "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > > multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > > days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > > could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > > management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > > *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > > *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > > with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > > edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > > navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > > prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > > course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > > here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > > Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > > something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > > branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > > updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > > something like this too. > > > LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > > Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > > could be leveraged in Scala. > > > So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > > (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. > > > - Stefan Scott > > > On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: > > > > Philip, > > > > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content > > > creation using wymeditor, which can be > > > tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as > > > it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is > > > this kind > > > of what you have in mind by a CMS system. > > > > I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete > > > with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. > > > Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript > > > libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do > > > javascript as well as, if not > > > better than, these systems. > > > > Glenn... > > > > On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I would like to know how the Lift/Scala can leveraged to with Alfresco or any other open source Java based CMS. Terry J. Leach On Aug 17, 2:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > Some on-line demos here: > > MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > something like this too. > > LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > could be leveraged in Scala. > > So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. > > - Stefan Scott > > On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: > > > > > Philip, > > > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content > > creation using wymeditor, which can be > > tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as > > it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is > > this kind > > of what you have in mind by a CMS system. > > > I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete > > with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. > > Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript > > libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do > > javascript as well as, if not > > better than, these systems. > > > Glenn... > > > On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I just put my fledgling stab at a Lift CMS on gitHub. I'm not a gitHub user, so it took me a while to set up and commit the files. Anyway, here's the URL: git://github.com/glennSilverman/democritus.git I'm sure others out there have more sophisticated content managers for Lift but I'm happy to throw mine out there for comment anyway. Glenn... On Aug 17, 4:43 am, Jefken De Vleesetenden Boterham wrote: > thirded, I'd try to help out a bit > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:53 PM, TylerWeir wrote: > > >> @Glenn - is your project public? > > > Seconded, toss it up on github and let the community start helping > > out. > > --http://pmonnaie.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Also opencms and alfresco both Java/J2EE On Aug 17, 7:09 pm, Stefan Scott wrote: > I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. > > I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm > moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and > more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of > SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java > instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims > to offer collaboration and social networking.) > > Some on-line demos here: > > MODx -http://trymodx.com/ > SilverStripe -http://demo.silverstripe.com/ > TypoLight -http://www.typolight.org/demo.html > Typo3 -http://testsite.punkt.de/ > LifeRay -http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home > > It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer > some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. > > Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the > best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less > flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS > from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you > apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme > applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has > evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which > are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things > that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the > "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), > multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few > days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I > could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content > management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a > *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled > *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), > with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- > edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin > navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is > prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of > course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war > here in this liftweb discussion. :-) > > Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has > something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected > branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any > updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have > something like this too. > > LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. > Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code > could be leveraged in Scala. > > So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind > (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. > > - Stefan Scott > > On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: > > > > > Philip, > > > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content > > creation using wymeditor, which can be > > tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as > > it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is > > this kind > > of what you have in mind by a CMS system. > > > I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete > > with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. > > Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript > > libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do > > javascript as well as, if not > > better than, these systems. > > > Glenn... > > > On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I'll chime in here since I've been evaluating several CMSs lately. I previously used Drupal and WordPress as my CMSs - now however I'm moving everything to MODx because of the increased flexibility and more-logical organization, and I'm also impressed with the demos of SilverStripe, TypoLight Typo3 - and LifeRay, which is written in Java instead of PHP. (LifeRay seems to be much more than a CMS - it claims to offer collaboration and social networking.) Some on-line demos here: MODx - http://trymodx.com/ SilverStripe - http://demo.silverstripe.com/ TypoLight - http://www.typolight.org/demo.html Typo3 - http://testsite.punkt.de/ LifeRay - http://demo.liferay.net/web/guest/home It would be good to take a look at these additional CMSs as they offer some capabilities beyond WordPress and Drupal. Drupal in particular is wildly popular but it may no longer be the best candidate to imitate, as it is less well-organized and less flexible/customizable (compared say to MODx, which lets you take CSS from an existing site and use it for your site, and which lets you apply a template to a single document, unlike Drupal where a theme applies to the entire site). To keep up with advanced CMSs, Drupal has evolved to use a bunch of (often redundant or competing) modules which are not always compatible with current releases. Examples of things that Drupal treats as "add-ons" (modules) are: custom content (the "CCK/Views" modules, with their confusing albeit AJAX-y interface), multi-language, and photo galleries (I gave up on Drupal after a few days of trying out various photo gallery modules, none of which I could understand). Finally, it seems odd that Drupal, as a "content management system", lacks something all advanced CMSs have: a *treeview* of the overall site content. Instead, it only has a jumbled *list* of content, sorted by not by location but by last edited (!), with all translations also scattered through the list based on last- edited date, and this list is buried several levels deep in the admin navigation system, unlike the site content treeview navigator which is prominently displayed (usually on the left) in advanced CMSs. (Of course, I don't want to veer off-topic here and start a CMS flame war here in this liftweb discussion. :-) Regarding "dynamic site map" creation - I do know that MODx has something like this, using WayFinder to create a menu from selected branches of the site's document tree, automatically including any updated sub-branches, and I believe most other advanced CMSs have something like this too. LifeRay seems very intriguing - it claims to do a lot beyond just CMS. Since it's written in Java (not PHP), who knows if some of its code could be leveraged in Scala. So these might be some additional interesting CMSs to keep in mind (beyond Drupal and WordPress) when building a new CMS using liftweb. - Stefan Scott On Aug 16, 3:13 pm, glenn wrote: > Philip, > > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content > creation using wymeditor, which can be > tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as > it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is > this kind > of what you have in mind by a CMS system. > > I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete > with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. > Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript > libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do > javascript as well as, if not > better than, these systems. > > Glenn... > > On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Tim, Mapper is mixing inestricably persistence and visualization+validation semantics, and effectively this is something that slow down my implementation effort. I look forward for your blog post on backend implementation. Regards Giuseppe On 17 Ago, 17:58, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Giuseppe, > > Im sure you already know this, but be carfull when comparing mapper to > record... There implementations (whilst similar) are semantically > different... Certainly that's been my experience whilst implementing a > custom backend for Record (blog post coming soon) > > Cheers, Tim > > On 17/08/2009 15:44, "Giuseppe Fogliazza" wrote: > > > > > I confirm that there are some efforts in progress. Particularly I am > > writing a jsr 170 (jackrabbit) backend for Record. It is taking longer > > than expected because I am extending Record with reference field and > > multivalued field that are of paramount relevance in domain modeling. > > I studied recent extension to Mapper (TableEditor, OneToMany, > > ManyToMany) as a starting point. > > > Regards > > Giuseppe > > > On 16 Ago, 12:00, Timothy Perrett wrote: > >> Short answer: "no". > > >> Long answer: There are a couple of efforts in progress, but this are > >> early, early stages (not even runnable code). > > >> Cheers, Tim > > >> On Aug 16, 7:08 am, philip wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > >>> Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Giuseppe, Im sure you already know this, but be carfull when comparing mapper to record... There implementations (whilst similar) are semantically different... Certainly that's been my experience whilst implementing a custom backend for Record (blog post coming soon) Cheers, Tim On 17/08/2009 15:44, "Giuseppe Fogliazza" wrote: > > I confirm that there are some efforts in progress. Particularly I am > writing a jsr 170 (jackrabbit) backend for Record. It is taking longer > than expected because I am extending Record with reference field and > multivalued field that are of paramount relevance in domain modeling. > I studied recent extension to Mapper (TableEditor, OneToMany, > ManyToMany) as a starting point. > > Regards > Giuseppe > > On 16 Ago, 12:00, Timothy Perrett wrote: >> Short answer: "no". >> >> Long answer: There are a couple of efforts in progress, but this are >> early, early stages (not even runnable code). >> >> Cheers, Tim >> >> On Aug 16, 7:08 am, philip wrote: >> >>> Hi, >> >>> Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. >> >>> Thanks, Philip > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Note that there have been some fixes to OneToMany, LongMappedForeignMapper, and ManyToMany recently. Also, if you like it fine, but keep in mind that I'm not a professional programmer with years of experience, nor is the implementation a result of any sort of research. I simply wished to have such functionality in a reusable format and mentioned my work on the list, and David invited me to share it. (That's why I'm fixing bugs now, after I got to the part of my project that uses it heavily.) So if you have another approach don't assume mine is "proven" or better! - Giuseppe Fogliazza wrote: I confirm that there are some efforts in progress. Particularly I am writing a jsr 170 (jackrabbit) backend for Record. It is taking longer than expected because I am extending Record with reference field and multivalued field that are of paramount relevance in domain modeling. I studied recent extension to Mapper (TableEditor, OneToMany, ManyToMany) as a starting point. Regards Giuseppe On 16 Ago, 12:00, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Short answer: "no". > > Long answer: There are a couple of efforts in progress, but this are > early, early stages (not even runnable code). > > Cheers, Tim > > On Aug 16, 7:08 am, philip wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I confirm that there are some efforts in progress. Particularly I am writing a jsr 170 (jackrabbit) backend for Record. It is taking longer than expected because I am extending Record with reference field and multivalued field that are of paramount relevance in domain modeling. I studied recent extension to Mapper (TableEditor, OneToMany, ManyToMany) as a starting point. Regards Giuseppe On 16 Ago, 12:00, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Short answer: "no". > > Long answer: There are a couple of efforts in progress, but this are > early, early stages (not even runnable code). > > Cheers, Tim > > On Aug 16, 7:08 am, philip wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Ditto On Aug 17, 6:43 am, Jefken De Vleesetenden Boterham wrote: > thirded, I'd try to help out a bit > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:53 PM, TylerWeir wrote: > > >> @Glenn - is your project public? > > > Seconded, toss it up on github and let the community start helping > > out. > > --http://pmonnaie.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
thirded, I'd try to help out a bit On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:53 PM, TylerWeir wrote: > >> @Glenn - is your project public? > > Seconded, toss it up on github and let the community start helping > out. > > > > -- http://pmonnaie.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
> @Glenn - is your project public? Seconded, toss it up on github and let the community start helping out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
I think Akka / GoatRodeo will make building such developments with Lift even more compelling thanks to persistence systems like Cassandra. @Glenn - is your project public? Cheers, Tim On 16/08/2009 19:13, "glenn" wrote: > > Philip, > > I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content > creation using wymeditor, which can be > tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as > it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is > this kind > of what you have in mind by a CMS system. > > I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete > with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. > Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript > libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do > javascript as well as, if not > better than, these systems. > > Glenn... > > On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. >> >> Thanks, Philip > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Philip, I'm working on a cms system in Lift. Right now, it allows for content creation using wymeditor, which can be tagged and displayed as an atom feed. This code is runnable, simple as it is. I'm working on adding dynamic site map creation as well. Is this kind of what you have in mind by a CMS system. I'm very interested in workiing with others on a CMS that can compete with any of the PHP varieties out there, such as Drupal and Wordpress. Most of these simply use plugins from one ore more javascript libraries out there for site creation, and Lift certainly can do javascript as well as, if not better than, these systems. Glenn... On Aug 15, 11:08 pm, philip wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: CMS for Lift?
Short answer: "no". Long answer: There are a couple of efforts in progress, but this are early, early stages (not even runnable code). Cheers, Tim On Aug 16, 7:08 am, philip wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone made a CMS for Liftweb? or I should say, in liftweb. > > Thanks, Philip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
