[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
My pages validate just fine (I'm on Lift 1.0). Chas. Tim Perrett wrote: > Amit, > > I would be amazed if that were the issue, as that is tottaly valid. > XHTML is a valid microformat of XML so having the decleration line is > valid. In one of my live applications I have: > > > www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> > http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="htt > > and it passs no problem at all using http://validator.w3.org/ > > What validator are you using? > > Thanks, Tim > > On Mar 2, 6:34 am, Amit Kumar Verma wrote: >> Hi David. >> >> HTML validator throws one error because of this line > version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> . In this way our application will >> never pass W3C html validation. >> >> thanks >> Amit Kumar Verma >> >> On Feb 28, 4:20 am, David Pollak >> wrote: >> >>> Marc, >>> It's possible that an Ajax transaction could take place subsequent to a page >>> load that would insert XHTML on the page that contains something in the lift >>> namespace. That's why I say that one removes the namespace at one's peril >>> and we are not going to support such a feature. It's fraught with too many >>> potential problems. >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Marc Boschma >>> wrote: I think what Ross is asking for isn't necessarily a bad thing for a given page which doesn't actually use the lift namespace after all processing has occurred. Think of it in a more general sense: how do I filter any namespace that isn't actually present in the result XML? This is actually an important question from a security perspective as I may not want to divulge a name space that is used internally. eg. a "cms" name space expressed in a previous thread. If plug-ins or similar functionality is to be supported in the future the resolution of this issue is probably a must. To my mind it should be possible to search the XML for all used name spaces and then to remove any name spaces declared but not present. Whether or not the "lift" name space is treated specially or not is an implementation issue... It should also be possible to raise an error if an element exists in a XML result that has a name space that shouldn't be present (the counter example). Marc On 28/02/2009, at 1:54 AM, David Pollak wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > Hi. > Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? Ross, Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx attributes to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to support other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery and decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. Thanks, David > Thanks, > Ross. > On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: >> Ross, >> You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML > - >> Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the > markup >> is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use /> >> the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as > valid I >> do believe. >> Tim >> On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: >>> Hi. >>> Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any >>> unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked >>> up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml >>> output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform >>> which produced it as possible. >>> Ross. >>> On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: May I ask why? Cheers, Viktor On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > wrote: > Hi. > I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > 'xmlns:lift="http:// > liftweb.net/"' element from : > > "http:// > www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" > http://www.w3.org/1999/ > xhtml"> > Thanks. > Ross. > On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > wrote: >> Hey Ross, >> Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of > lift are > you >> using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* >> dependencies) >> Thanks >> Tim >> On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: >>> Hi. >>> I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I > was >>> wondering if it is possible to remove the
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Amit, I would be amazed if that were the issue, as that is tottaly valid. XHTML is a valid microformat of XML so having the decleration line is valid. In one of my live applications I have: http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="htt and it passs no problem at all using http://validator.w3.org/ What validator are you using? Thanks, Tim On Mar 2, 6:34 am, Amit Kumar Verma wrote: > Hi David. > > HTML validator throws one error because of this line version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> . In this way our application will > never pass W3C html validation. > > thanks > Amit Kumar Verma > > On Feb 28, 4:20 am, David Pollak > wrote: > > > Marc, > > > It's possible that an Ajax transaction could take place subsequent to a page > > load that would insert XHTML on the page that contains something in the lift > > namespace. That's why I say that one removes the namespace at one's peril > > and we are not going to support such a feature. It's fraught with too many > > potential problems. > > > Thanks, > > > David > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Marc Boschma > > > > > > wrote: > > > I think what Ross is asking for isn't necessarily a bad thing for a given > > > page which doesn't actually use the lift namespace after all processing > > > has occurred. > > > Think of it in a more general sense: how do I filter any namespace that > > > isn't actually present in the result XML? This is actually an important > > > question from a security perspective as I may not want to divulge a name > > > space that is used internally. eg. a "cms" name space expressed in a > > > previous thread. If plug-ins or similar functionality is to be supported > > > in > > > the future the resolution of this issue is probably a must. > > > > To my mind it should be possible to search the XML for all used name > > > spaces > > > and then to remove any name spaces declared but not present. > > > > Whether or not the "lift" name space is treated specially or not is > > > an implementation issue... > > > > It should also be possible to raise an error if an element exists in a XML > > > result that has a name space that shouldn't be present (the counter > > > example). > > > > Marc > > > > On 28/02/2009, at 1:54 AM, David Pollak wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > > > >> Hi. > > > >> Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > > >> post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > > > > Ross, > > > > Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx > > > attributes > > > to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to > > > support > > > other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery > > > and > > > decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift > > > makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is > > > removed > > > at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Ross. > > > >> On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > >> > Ross, > > > >> > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML > > >> - > > >> > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the > > >> markup > > >> > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use > > >> > > >> /> > > >> > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as > > >> valid I > > >> > do believe. > > > >> > Tim > > > >> > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > > >> > > Hi. > > > >> > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > > >> > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > > >> > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > > >> > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > > >> > > which produced it as possible. > > > >> > > Ross. > > > >> > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > > >> > >> May I ask why? > > > >> > >> Cheers, > > >> > >> Viktor > > > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >>> Hi. > > > >> > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > > >> 'xmlns:lift="http:// > > >> > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> "http:// > > >> > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > >> > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" > > >>http://www.w3.org/1999/ > > >> > >>> xhtml"> > > > >> > >>> Thanks. > > > >> > >>> Ross. > > > >> > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > > >> wrote: > > >> > Hey Ross, > > > >> > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of > > >> lift are > > >> > >>> you > > >> > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > >> > dependencies) > > > >> > Thanks > > > >> > Tim > > > >> > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > >> > > Hi. > > > >> > > I must admit I have
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi David. HTML validator throws one error because of this line . In this way our application will never pass W3C html validation. thanks Amit Kumar Verma On Feb 28, 4:20 am, David Pollak wrote: > Marc, > > It's possible that an Ajax transaction could take place subsequent to a page > load that would insert XHTML on the page that contains something in the lift > namespace. That's why I say that one removes the namespace at one's peril > and we are not going to support such a feature. It's fraught with too many > potential problems. > > Thanks, > > David > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Marc Boschma > > > > > > wrote: > > I think what Ross is asking for isn't necessarily a bad thing for a given > > page which doesn't actually use the lift namespace after all processing > > has occurred. > > Think of it in a more general sense: how do I filter any namespace that > > isn't actually present in the result XML? This is actually an important > > question from a security perspective as I may not want to divulge a name > > space that is used internally. eg. a "cms" name space expressed in a > > previous thread. If plug-ins or similar functionality is to be supported in > > the future the resolution of this issue is probably a must. > > > To my mind it should be possible to search the XML for all used name spaces > > and then to remove any name spaces declared but not present. > > > Whether or not the "lift" name space is treated specially or not is > > an implementation issue... > > > It should also be possible to raise an error if an element exists in a XML > > result that has a name space that shouldn't be present (the counter > > example). > > > Marc > > > On 28/02/2009, at 1:54 AM, David Pollak wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > > >> Hi. > > >> Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > >> post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > > > Ross, > > > Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx attributes > > to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to support > > other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery and > > decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift > > makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed > > at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. > > > Thanks, > > > David > > >> Thanks, > > >> Ross. > > >> On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > >> > Ross, > > >> > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML > >> - > >> > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the > >> markup > >> > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use >> /> > >> > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as > >> valid I > >> > do believe. > > >> > Tim > > >> > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > >> > > Hi. > > >> > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > >> > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > >> > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > >> > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > >> > > which produced it as possible. > > >> > > Ross. > > >> > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > >> > >> May I ask why? > > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Viktor > > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > >> wrote: > > >> > >>> Hi. > > >> > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > >> 'xmlns:lift="http:// > >> > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> "http:// > >> > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > >> > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" > >>http://www.w3.org/1999/ > >> > >>> xhtml"> > > >> > >>> Thanks. > > >> > >>> Ross. > > >> > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > >> wrote: > >> > Hey Ross, > > >> > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of > >> lift are > >> > >>> you > >> > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > >> > dependencies) > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Tim > > >> > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > >> > > Hi. > > >> > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I > >> was > >> > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > >> > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > >> > > Thanks. > > >> > > Ross. > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Viktor Klang > >> > >> Senior Systems Analyst > > > -- > > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net > > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp > > Git some:http://github.com/dpp > > -- > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > Follow me
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Marc, It's possible that an Ajax transaction could take place subsequent to a page load that would insert XHTML on the page that contains something in the lift namespace. That's why I say that one removes the namespace at one's peril and we are not going to support such a feature. It's fraught with too many potential problems. Thanks, David On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Marc Boschma > wrote: > I think what Ross is asking for isn't necessarily a bad thing for a given > page which doesn't actually use the lift namespace after all processing > has occurred. > Think of it in a more general sense: how do I filter any namespace that > isn't actually present in the result XML? This is actually an important > question from a security perspective as I may not want to divulge a name > space that is used internally. eg. a "cms" name space expressed in a > previous thread. If plug-ins or similar functionality is to be supported in > the future the resolution of this issue is probably a must. > > To my mind it should be possible to search the XML for all used name spaces > and then to remove any name spaces declared but not present. > > Whether or not the "lift" name space is treated specially or not is > an implementation issue... > > It should also be possible to raise an error if an element exists in a XML > result that has a name space that shouldn't be present (the counter > example). > > Marc > > On 28/02/2009, at 1:54 AM, David Pollak wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > >> >> Hi. >> >> Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a >> post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? >> > > Ross, > > Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx attributes > to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to support > other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery and > decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift > makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed > at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. > > Thanks, > > David > > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ross. >> >> >> On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: >> > Ross, >> > >> > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML >> - >> > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the >> markup >> > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use > /> >> > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as >> valid I >> > do believe. >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi. >> > >> > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any >> > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked >> > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml >> > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform >> > > which produced it as possible. >> > >> > > Ross. >> > >> > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: >> > >> May I ask why? >> > >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Viktor >> > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin >> wrote: >> > >> > >>> Hi. >> > >> > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the >> 'xmlns:lift="http:// >> > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : >> > >> > >>> >> > >>> > "http:// >> > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >> > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" >> http://www.w3.org/1999/ >> > >>> xhtml"> >> > >> > >>> Thanks. >> > >> > >>> Ross. >> > >> > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett >> wrote: >> > Hey Ross, >> > >> > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of >> lift are >> > >>> you >> > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* >> > dependencies) >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: >> > >> > > Hi. >> > >> > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I >> was >> > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// >> > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? >> > >> > > Thanks. >> > >> > > Ross. >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> Viktor Klang >> > >> Senior Systems Analyst >> >> >> > > > -- > Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net > Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp > Git some: http://github.com/dpp > > > > > > > > -- Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp Git some: http://github.com/dpp --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
I think what Ross is asking for isn't necessarily a bad thing for a given page which doesn't actually use the lift namespace after all processing has occurred. Think of it in a more general sense: how do I filter any namespace that isn't actually present in the result XML? This is actually an important question from a security perspective as I may not want to divulge a name space that is used internally. eg. a "cms" name space expressed in a previous thread. If plug-ins or similar functionality is to be supported in the future the resolution of this issue is probably a must. To my mind it should be possible to search the XML for all used name spaces and then to remove any name spaces declared but not present. Whether or not the "lift" name space is treated specially or not is an implementation issue... It should also be possible to raise an error if an element exists in a XML result that has a name space that shouldn't be present (the counter example). Marc On 28/02/2009, at 1:54 AM, David Pollak wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin > wrote: > > Hi. > > Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > > Ross, > > Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx > attributes to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc > attribute to support other services until we found a significant > defect in Firefox and jQuery and decided to use another mechanism to > replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift makes active use of the lift > namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed at your peril and > the removal will not be supported on this list. > > Thanks, > > David > > > Thanks, > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Ross, > > > > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid > XHTML - > > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that > the markup > > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use > > > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml > as valid I > > do believe. > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I > picked > > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > > > which produced it as possible. > > > > > Ross. > > > > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > > >> May I ask why? > > > > >> Cheers, > > >> Viktor > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > wrote: > > > > >>> Hi. > > > > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > 'xmlns:lift="http:// > > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > > >>> > > >>> "http:// > > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ > > >>> xhtml"> > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > > >>> Ross. > > > > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > wrote: > > Hey Ross, > > > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version > of lift are > > >>> you > > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > dependencies) > > > > Thanks > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, > but I was > > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered > page? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Ross. > > > > >> -- > > >> Viktor Klang > > >> Senior Systems Analyst > > > > > > -- > Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net > Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp > Git some: http://github.com/dpp > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi David. No worries, I will leave it in place, thanks for the explanation. Regards, Ross. On Feb 27, 2:54 pm, David Pollak wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > > > Hi. > > > Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > > post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > > Ross, > > Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx attributes > to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to support > other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery and > decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift > makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed > at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. > > Thanks, > > David > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > > Ross, > > > > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML - > > > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the > > markup > > > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use > /> > > > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as valid > > I > > > do believe. > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > > > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > > > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > > > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > > > > which produced it as possible. > > > > > Ross. > > > > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > > > >> May I ask why? > > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Viktor > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > > wrote: > > > > >>> Hi. > > > > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > > 'xmlns:lift="http:// > > > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > > >>> > > > >>> > "http:// > > > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" > >http://www.w3.org/1999/ > > > >>> xhtml"> > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > > >>> Ross. > > > > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > > wrote: > > > Hey Ross, > > > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift > > are > > > >>> you > > > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > > dependencies) > > > > Thanks > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I > > was > > > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Ross. > > > > >> -- > > > >> Viktor Klang > > > >> Senior Systems Analyst > > -- > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp > Git some:http://github.com/dpp --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM, rossputin wrote: > > Hi. > > Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > Ross, Lift emits XHTML to the browser that contains tags with lift:xxx attributes to support the Comet services and also used the lift:gc attribute to support other services until we found a significant defect in Firefox and jQuery and decided to use another mechanism to replace the lift:gc attributes. Lift makes active use of the lift namespace. The xmlns:lift attribute is removed at your peril and the removal will not be supported on this list. Thanks, David > > Thanks, > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Ross, > > > > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML - > > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the > markup > > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use /> > > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as valid > I > > do believe. > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > > > which produced it as possible. > > > > > Ross. > > > > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > > >> May I ask why? > > > > >> Cheers, > > >> Viktor > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin > wrote: > > > > >>> Hi. > > > > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the > 'xmlns:lift="http:// > > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > > >>> > > >>> "http:// > > >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns=" > http://www.w3.org/1999/ > > >>> xhtml"> > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > > >>> Ross. > > > > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett > wrote: > > Hey Ross, > > > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift > are > > >>> you > > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > dependencies) > > > > Thanks > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I > was > > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Ross. > > > > >> -- > > >> Viktor Klang > > >> Senior Systems Analyst > > > > -- Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890 Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp Git some: http://github.com/dpp --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi Ross, What kind of "post-process" did you have in mind? If you can detail what you are trying to achieve then we can help answer your question more effectively. Thanks Tim On 27/02/2009 14:08, "rossputin" wrote: > > Hi. > > Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a > post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? > > Thanks, > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: >> Ross, >> >> You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML - >> Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the markup >> is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use >> the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as valid I >> do believe. >> >> Tim >> >> On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi. >> >>> Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any >>> unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked >>> up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml >>> output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform >>> which produced it as possible. >> >>> Ross. >> >>> On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: May I ask why? >> Cheers, Viktor >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin wrote: >> > Hi. >> > I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// > liftweb.net/"' element from : >> > > www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ > xhtml"> >> > Thanks. >> > Ross. >> > On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: >> Hey Ross, >> >> Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are > you >> using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* >> dependencies) >> >> Thanks >> >> Tim >> >> On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: >> >>> Hi. >> >>> I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was >>> wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// >>> liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? >> >>> Thanks. >> >>> Ross. >> -- Viktor Klang Senior Systems Analyst > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi. Sure, I understand it is required as the xml is processed, is there a post process operation in the pipeline anywhere ? Thanks, Ross. On Feb 27, 1:59 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Ross, > > You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML - > Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the markup > is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use > the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as valid I > do believe. > > Tim > > On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. > > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > > which produced it as possible. > > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > >> May I ask why? > > >> Cheers, > >> Viktor > > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin wrote: > > >>> Hi. > > >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// > >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : > > >>> > >>> >>>www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ > >>> xhtml"> > > >>> Thanks. > > >>> Ross. > > >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Hey Ross, > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are > >>> you > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > dependencies) > > Thanks > > Tim > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > Hi. > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > Thanks. > > > Ross. > > >> -- > >> Viktor Klang > >> Senior Systems Analyst --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Ross, You cannot remove this namespace as it is needed to make it valid XHTML - Scala XML processing uses a strict xml processer to ensure that the markup is valid and complete before outputting it. Because we use the namespace is required for the parser to pass that markup xml as valid I do believe. Tim On 27/02/2009 13:40, "rossputin" wrote: > > Hi. > > Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any > unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked > up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml > output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform > which produced it as possible. > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: >> May I ask why? >> >> Cheers, >> Viktor >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin wrote: >> >>> Hi. >> >>> I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// >>> liftweb.net/"' element from : >> >>> >>> >> www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >>> http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ >>> xhtml"> >> >>> Thanks. >> >>> Ross. >> >>> On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: Hey Ross, >> Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are >>> you using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* dependencies) >> Thanks >> Tim >> On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: >> > Hi. >> > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? >> > Thanks. >> > Ross. >> >> -- >> Viktor Klang >> Senior Systems Analyst > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi. Sure, its something I do to simplify as much as possible any unnecessary tags or attributes. I suppose it is a practice I picked up while using Cocoon. Ultimately, I just want the purest xhtml output possible, hopefully revealing as little about the platform which produced it as possible. Ross. On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, Viktor Klang wrote: > May I ask why? > > Cheers, > Viktor > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin wrote: > > > Hi. > > > I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// > > liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > > > >www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ > > xhtml"> > > > Thanks. > > > Ross. > > > On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > > Hey Ross, > > > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are > > you > > > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > > dependencies) > > > > Thanks > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > > > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Ross. > > -- > Viktor Klang > Senior Systems Analyst --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
May I ask why? Cheers, Viktor On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM, rossputin wrote: > > Hi. > > I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// > liftweb.net/"' element from : > > > www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ > xhtml"> > > Thanks. > > Ross. > > On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > > Hey Ross, > > > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are > you > > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > > dependencies) > > > > Thanks > > > > Tim > > > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Ross. > > > > -- Viktor Klang Senior Systems Analyst --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hi. I am using lift 1.0. I was hoping to remove the 'xmlns:lift="http:// liftweb.net/"' element from : http://liftweb.net/"; xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/ xhtml"> Thanks. Ross. On Feb 27, 12:18 pm, Timothy Perrett wrote: > Hey Ross, > > Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are you > using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* > dependencies) > > Thanks > > Tim > > On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. > > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > > Thanks. > > > Ross. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Lift] Re: Removing xmlns:lift="http://liftweb.net/" in rendered page
Hey Ross, Which element are you referring to? Head items? What version of lift are you using? (you can find out by looking in pom.xml under the lift-* dependencies) Thanks Tim On 27/02/2009 11:36, "rossputin" wrote: > > Hi. > > I must admit I have not worked my way through the book yet, but I was > wondering if it is possible to remove the xmlns:lift="http:// > liftweb.net/" attribute on the html element in the rendered page? > > Thanks. > > Ross. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lift" group. To post to this group, send email to liftweb@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to liftweb+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
