Re: documentation link to big page broken

2009-02-14 Thread Frédéric Bron
 This link has been broken for a few days:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

 OK I am sorry, I did not read the message of Firefox. It says there is
 an encoding problem:

 In French:
 Erreur d'encodage de contenu. La page que vous essayez de voir ne
 peut être affichée car elle utilise un type de compression invalide ou
 non supporté.
 In English:
 Content encoding error. The page you try to look at cannot be
 displayed because it uses an invalid or unsupported type of
 compression

No problem with IE 6.0, only FireFox 3.06 refuses to show the big
page. Please do not tell me I have to go back to IE! Help!

Frédéric Bron


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Re: Shouldn't the ambitus engraver prefer his key signature?

2009-02-14 Thread David Kastrup
Anthony W. Youngman lilyp...@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes:

 In message 863aeipe74@lola.quinscape.zz, David Kastrup
 d...@gnu.org writes

Hi,

the ambitus engraver seemingly picks the first maximum/minimum in the
note sequence and stays with it even when the same absolute pitch comes
up later with a better match to the ambitus engraver's key signature.

Here is a real world example where the ambitus engraver (which is
working in C major) picks c flat rather than b as its lowest span.
Ugly.

 Not that I use ambituses, but surely, where there multiple notes of
 the same pitch (I hate to say absolute pitch, because to take the
 above example c-flat and b-natural are NOT the same pitch except on
 the piano),

Ambitus engravings are for expressing physical limits.  I can't think of
a tuning/instrument where enharmonic relations could make a difference.

 it makes sense to take the lowest (or highest, as appropriate) note -
 b over c.

No.  The ambitus should definitely orient itself with its key signature:
it makes no sense using accidentals when a natural pitch is there.

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Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-14 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On za, 2009-02-14 at 02:59 +0100, John Mandereau wrote:

Hi John,

 I have a (proably simple) problem with current HEAD for building 
 librestrict, which may be trivial
 but which I couldn't fix quickly myself:

Tried a couple of things but could not reproduce this.

What's the command you issued?  Can you try removing the
root and any librestrict/make packages:

rm -rf target/tools/root
rm target/tools/packages/{make,librestrict}*

Jan.

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Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-14 Thread Sawada , Yoshiki
Hello John,

John Mandereau john.mandereau at gmail.com wrote:

 How did you set the execution bit?  Have you used a Windows machine or 
 some non-Unix filesystem?

Yes, I mount a NTFS from Linux. I have installed both of Windows and Linux into
one machine. I edit text on Windows (because my favorite text editor is
available only on Windows), then reboot my machine to boot Linux and compile
LilyPond documents on it (because I could not build LilyPond on cygwin. In fact,
I spent a day to try building LilyPond on cygwin, but I could not do it).
This way is really troublesome. I am seriously thinking to buy another machine.

Thanks,
Sawada, Yoshiki




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Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Sawada, Yoshiki
sawada.yosh...@gmail.com wrote:

 How did you set the execution bit?  Have you used a Windows machine or
 some non-Unix filesystem?

 Yes, I mount a NTFS from Linux. I have installed both of Windows and Linux 
 into
 one machine. I edit text on Windows (because my favorite text editor is
 available only on Windows), then reboot my machine to boot Linux and compile

Doesnt it run under Wine?

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Re: Patch for ja doc and two Questions

2009-02-14 Thread Sawada , Yoshiki
Hello John,

John Mandereau john.mandereau at gmail.com wrote:

  1. Release of the new patch for ja doc
 
 OK, I applied your patch, but made further fixes in the source, and made 
 comments at the end of this email.

I thank you for your work.

  2. About .po file
 
 The simplest way I can see is to disable translation of variable names 
 in Japanese documentation,
 which I just did in lilypond-book and langdefs.  Please check if it works.

It does not work. But I fixed Lilypond-book.py as following:
(line 939)
if not langdefs.LANGDICT[document_language].enable_ly_identifier_l10n:
   ^^^
I guess the property name enable_ly_identifier_l10n should be changed to
disable_ly_identifier_l10n.
 ^^^
  3. About Building documentation without compiling LilyPond of 
 1.2.4 Building documentation, Application Usage

 nice is not needed, that's a Grahamism, but I think it's not a problem 
 if it remains there, I'd expect
 people who run this command with no knoweledge of nice comand to do man 
 nice 
 There are other variations of this command (e.g. using -j make flag)... 
 it's not possible to list all possibilities
 in the compilation documentation.

I just think commands which are not needed should not be included. They may
cause confusions.

Now, I have another question about LilyPond documents. Thus, I will make a new
thread about them.

 @untranslated in Documentation/ja/user/converters.itely are right, but 
 this file shouldn't contain the English translation,
 so I removed it.

I am sure. I have one question about this. Should I include untranslated texinfo
files into patches? For example, I am translating Learning Manual, but do not
start to translate rhythms.itely yet. Should I include rhythms.itely into
Documentation/ja/user/ for patches? In fact, I can do make web only with
lilypond.tely, notation.itely and pitches.itely.

 Also, the Japanese texidoc in input/lsr/piano-template-simple.ly is 
 missing in input/texidocs,

It is a my fault. I will include it into the next patch.

 and you may want to translate
 snippet titles as well, writing them in doctitleja header fields.

Thank you for your advice. I add doctitleja fields to snippet files.

Thanks,
Sawada, Yoshiki




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Re: What's up with the Frogs?

2009-02-14 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/2/13 Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca:
 Since I've been doing /such/ a good job keeping up with my
 lilypond duties, I figured I'd have the moral authority to bug
 others.

Like you needed any authority to bug someone :)

 Valentin (since you're French and I have no shame  ;)  what's up
 with the Report?  And the bug-lilypond backlog?  IIRC your opera
 started almost two weeks ago.

Aye aye, sir!

Yeah, I'm slowly recovering (and I haven't had any decent connection
until yesterday). The new Report site is nearly ready, and the next
issue is almost complete (it has been so for 7 months). As for the
bugs thing, I have finally fixed my laptop this afternoon so there's a
good chance I'm not far away from being 100% functional :)

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: documentation link to big page broken

2009-02-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/2/14 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org:
 This link has been broken for a few days:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

 OK I am sorry, I did not read the message of Firefox. It says there is
 an encoding problem:

 In French:
 Erreur d'encodage de contenu. La page que vous essayez de voir ne
 peut être affichée car elle utilise un type de compression invalide ou
 non supporté.
 In English:
 Content encoding error. The page you try to look at cannot be
 displayed because it uses an invalid or unsupported type of
 compression

 No problem with IE 6.0, only FireFox 3.06 refuses to show the big
 page. Please do not tell me I have to go back to IE! Help!

You don't, but Does Anybody Else Have This Problem?

-- 
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http://www.paconet.org


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Re: documentation link to big page broken

2009-02-14 Thread Frédéric Bron
 This link has been broken for a few days:
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page

 OK I am sorry, I did not read the message of Firefox. It says there is
 an encoding problem:

 In French:
 Erreur d'encodage de contenu. La page que vous essayez de voir ne
 peut être affichée car elle utilise un type de compression invalide ou
 non supporté.
 In English:
 Content encoding error. The page you try to look at cannot be
 displayed because it uses an invalid or unsupported type of
 compression

 No problem with IE 6.0, only FireFox 3.06 refuses to show the big
 page. Please do not tell me I have to go back to IE! Help!

 You don't, but Does Anybody Else Have This Problem?


I have googled a bit and found other people having the same problem
with FireFox 3. Often many people have no problems and some have
problems.
There is an easy workaround: Ctrl+F5! It worked for me.
Thanks,

Frédéric Bron


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Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-14 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Jan,

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:06:28PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:

 I finally cooked-up a patch for that, it took a bit more work than
 I imagined.  With latest GUB3 you can do
 
LIBRESTRICT=open:stat bin/gub mingw::guile  # or mingw::lilypond
 
 This will disallow libtool to read from or stat in /, so this should
 (from target/mingw/log/build.log) give us a clue why libtool reads
 from /usr/lib on your machine.
 
 Oh, this will trigger a full rebuild ;-)

I decided to start completely from scratch with `make lilypond' to see
if I could reproduce the current libtool issue, but I ran into some
other problems.  I will revisit this issue soon.

The problem I am having is that fontconfig, ghostscript, guile, and
lilypond are not downloaded!  Directories such as
downloads/fontconfig, downloads/lilypond, etc. are not even created at
the start of the build process.

This is resulting is all sorts of ugly errors like the following:

/bin/sh: line 0: cd: /home/pnorcks/git/gub/downloads/lilypond: No such file 
or directory
read_pipe failed: cd /home/pnorcks/git/gub/downloads/lilypond  git show 
git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git/master:VERSION


Thanks,
Patrick


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Re: documentation link to big page broken

2009-02-14 Thread -Eluze


Frédéric Bron wrote:
 
 Ctrl+F5! 
 
this just means Reload (override cache) and it is important - if the
previous load was broken - to make a real reload, not only from cache
[simply F5] (which is a locally stored copy of a website).
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Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-14 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jan,

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:06:28PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:

 I finally cooked-up a patch for that, it took a bit more work than
 I imagined.  With latest GUB3 you can do

LIBRESTRICT=open:stat bin/gub mingw::guile  # or mingw::lilypond

 This will disallow libtool to read from or stat in /, so this should
 (from target/mingw/log/build.log) give us a clue why libtool reads
 from /usr/lib on your machine.

 Oh, this will trigger a full rebuild ;-)

 I decided to start completely from scratch with `make lilypond' to see
 if I could reproduce the current libtool issue, but I ran into some
 other problems.  I will revisit this issue soon.

 The problem I am having is that fontconfig, ghostscript, guile, and
 lilypond are not downloaded!  Directories such as
 downloads/fontconfig, downloads/lilypond, etc. are not even created at
 the start of the build process.

 This is resulting is all sorts of ugly errors like the following:

/bin/sh: line 0: cd: /home/pnorcks/git/gub/downloads/lilypond: No such 
 file or directory
read_pipe failed: cd /home/pnorcks/git/gub/downloads/lilypond  git show 
 git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git/master:VERSION

Just to follow up, there are *many* errors in build.log.  Most of them
occur during the configure stage of tools::make.  They all look like
this:

ERROR: ld.so: object
'/home/pnorcks/git/gub/target/tools/root/usr/lib/librestrict.so' from
LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.


Thanks,
Patrick


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Re: Building GUB3

2009-02-14 Thread John Mandereau

Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit :

Tried a couple of things but could not reproduce this.

What's the command you issued?  Can you try removing the
root and any librestrict/make packages:
  

I get the error I reported when running

rm -rf target
make -f lilypond.make bootstrap

Best,
John


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links in LSR snippets

2009-02-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG

LSR files sometimes refer to the manual.  Example:

  makam-example.ly:

   (see the `Learning Manual @version{}, 4.6.3 Other sources of
   information' for the location of this file)

Such references to absolute section numbers are error-prone;
additionally, there is no proper hyperlink.  Any idea how to do
better?


Werner


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