Re: LilyBuntu [don't read kainhofer.com!]

2010-12-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Samstag, 11. Dezember 2010, um 00:38:54 schrieb Graham Percival:
  Whatever it does to obtain a new set of manuals, any daily snapshot
  should do the same.
 
 No.  The docs on kainhofer.com are not our official docs.  It is a
 private server which Reinhold graciously makes available.
 Compiling the docs from scratch requires a fair amount of
 resources, ranging from CPU power to disk life (by using
 read/writes) to electricity.
 
 I agree that any official daily snapshot should build from
 scratch.  But I don't think it's worth the resources it would
 take.  A daily doc build was fantastic during GDP, but these days
 the docs don't change all that rapidly, and all doc contributors
 can build the docs themselves (mostly with lilybuntu).

Okay, I have now changed the system of my doc builds: They are built from 
scratch nightly on my office machine (which is idling at night any way), and 
then rsync'ed to the server. So, now the docs in kainhofer.com should always 
be the really latest version.

The out-of-source build worked just fine on my office machine, no idea what 
causes it to fail on the server.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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 * Financial  Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
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Re: LilyBuntu [don't read kainhofer.com!]

2010-12-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer
reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote:
 Okay, I have now changed the system of my doc builds: They are built from
 scratch nightly on my office machine (which is idling at night any way), and
 then rsync'ed to the server. So, now the docs in kainhofer.com should always
 be the really latest version.

Great! Thanks a lot, this will be quite useful in some cases.

Cheers,
Valentin.

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Re: Fix 1336 (issue3594041)

2010-12-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:53 PM,  n.putt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2010/12/11 23:23:46, Neil Puttock wrote:

 I think it would be better to create the missing column rather than

 aborting.


Neil's approach looks better to me than Carl's, as it is closer to the
place where skipTypesetting is handled.

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Re: Fix 1336 (issue3594041)

2010-12-12 Thread Carl Sorensen


On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:53 PM,  n.putt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2010/12/11 23:23:46, Neil Puttock wrote:

 I think it would be better to create the missing column rather than

 aborting.


 Neil's approach looks better to me than Carl's, as it is closer to the
 place where skipTypesetting is handled.

I completely agree

Carl


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Re: Don't make paper columns if skipTypesetting = ##t. (issue3598041)

2010-12-12 Thread percival . music . ca

LGTM; regtest comparison shows nothing unexpected, and the docs build
from scratch.  Please push.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3598041/

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Re: Fix bookpart identifier crash with page-marker. (issue3585042)

2010-12-12 Thread percival . music . ca

LGTM; regtest comparison shows nothing unexpected, and the docs build
from scratch.  Please push.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3585042/

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Re: Doc: Various to LM and NR from user email threads (issue3581041)

2010-12-12 Thread percival . music . ca

Lots of good discussion here, but I'm finding a bit confusing.  James,
could you extract whatever part(s) of your first patch that everybody
agreed on, and make a separate patch that only does those?  That way, we
can get the obvious stuff pushed, and then focus on whatever not
obvious stuff is left.  I'd also suggest that once the obvious stuff
is pushed, you create a patch for only 1 of the remaining files -- that
will let us focus even more.

Remember that patches should not only *be* good, they must be *seen* to
be good.  When there's a lot of unrelated stuff in the same patch, it's
harder to see that stuff is good.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/

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Installing ddd on LilyBuntu

2010-12-12 Thread Phil Holmes
I thought it'd be interesting to install the ddd graphical debugger on my 
LilyBuntu instance.  I downloaded it OK, but when I run ./configure I get:


configure: error: The X toolkit library '-lXt' could not be found.

I can't find how to fix this with a Google search.  Does anyone who 
runs/created LB know whether there is an X toolkit library installed?  If 
so, what/where?  If not, is it possible to install one?


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Re: Installing ddd on LilyBuntu

2010-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 06:13:35PM -, Phil Holmes wrote:
 I thought it'd be interesting to install the ddd graphical debugger
 on my LilyBuntu instance.  I downloaded it OK, but when I run
 ./configure I get:

As a general rule of thumb, never never ever download software for
linux.  Always use your package manager.

Command-line:
  sudo aptitude install ddd

Graphical:
  third top menu from the left, administration or
preferences-synaptic package manager.

this way, the system automatically installs (and configures!) any
requirements to use whatever software you want.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Installing ddd on LilyBuntu

2010-12-12 Thread Boris Shingarov

On 10-12-12 01:13 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:
I thought it'd be interesting to install the ddd graphical debugger on 
my LilyBuntu instance.  I downloaded it OK, but when I run ./configure 
I get:


configure: error: The X toolkit library '-lXt' could not be found.


You are missing the libxt-dev package.

But, why do you want to build DDD yourself?  If you simply want to use 
it to debug LilyPond, you can just install it from the repository.  A 
lot easier, and will save you a lot of headache in the future.


Also, is there a particular reason to prefer DDD for C++ debugging?  I 
find Eclipse CDT a lot better in any thinkable respect.  (But then 
again, I am biased, being one of the founders of the Eclipse project).



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Re: Installing ddd on LilyBuntu

2010-12-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Boris Shingarov b...@shingarov.com

To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Installing ddd on LilyBuntu



On 10-12-12 01:13 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:
I thought it'd be interesting to install the ddd graphical debugger on my 
LilyBuntu instance.  I downloaded it OK, but when I run ./configure I 
get:


configure: error: The X toolkit library '-lXt' could not be found.


You are missing the libxt-dev package.

But, why do you want to build DDD yourself?  If you simply want to use it 
to debug LilyPond, you can just install it from the repository.  A lot 
easier, and will save you a lot of headache in the future.


Also, is there a particular reason to prefer DDD for C++ debugging?  I 
find Eclipse CDT a lot better in any thinkable respect.  (But then again, 
I am biased, being one of the founders of the Eclipse project).



The CG at 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/debugging-c_002b_002b-code 
says As an alternative to running gdb at the command line you may try a 
graphical interface to gdb such as ddd:  so I just did that.  I knew 
nothing about package managers until Graham replied.  Following that 
information, I'm now happily watching a debug window :-)


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Re: Doc: Various to LM and NR from user email threads (issue3581041)

2010-12-12 Thread pkx166h


http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely
File Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely#newcode2115
Documentation/learning/fundamental.itely:2115: no note heads are
produced and so no Stem or Beams are created either.}
On 2010/12/11 22:56:02, Neil Puttock wrote:

stems or beams


Leaving this file unedited for another patch until those other files
that have
consensus have been pushed.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/editorial.itely
File Documentation/notation/editorial.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/editorial.itely#newcode145
Documentation/notation/editorial.itely:145: using the @code{fontSize}
property.
On 2010/12/11 22:56:02, Neil Puttock wrote:

This is a problem in markup only, thus applies to the \fontsize markup

command

(not the context property fontSize).



I suggested changing the definitions of the named commands to remove

the

inconsistency (via \abs-fontsize), but if we'd rather leave them as

they are

this knowissue should be moved to text.itely.


Done.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/repeats.itely
File Documentation/notation/repeats.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/repeats.itely#newcode153
Documentation/notation/repeats.itely:153: number of endings.  If you
must use bar checks then put
On 2010/12/10 23:41:50, Trevor Daniels wrote:

If you do use bar checks ...


Leaving this file unedited for another patch until those other files
that have consensus have been pushed.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely
File Documentation/notation/spacing.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely#newcode928
Documentation/notation/spacing.itely:928: @warning{Odd page numbers are
always on the right.  If you want the
On 2010/12/11 14:01:10, Graham Percival wrote:

On 2010/12/11 00:36:29, Carl wrote:
 I think that this should be a known issue, rather than a warning.



Agreed, this is definitely better as a known issue.


Done.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/staff.itely
File Documentation/notation/staff.itely (right):

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/diff/1/Documentation/notation/staff.itely#newcode278
Documentation/notation/staff.itely:278: @code{PianoStaff} does not, by
default, accept @code{ChordNames}.
On 2010/12/11 14:01:10, Graham Percival wrote:

This should be a known issue, instead of a warn... oh, oops, sorry,

it's already

a known issue.  :)


Done.

http://codereview.appspot.com/3581041/

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Re: lilybuntu 2

2010-12-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 I was hoping that guile 2.0 and/or texinfo 4.14 would be out by
 now, but it seems like that's going to be be released a few days
 after officially making lilybuntu 2.  (not from insight into the
 development of either project; just an observation of the
 convenience of the universe)

 With that in mind, does anybody feel like cooking up lilybuntu 2
 right now?  I recommend
 - Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
 - nothing else fancy

I'm on winter break right now, and I did the last lilybuntu so I can
do this one too. I'll be glad to be able to contribute something
again.


 It would be great if you could write a brief blurb about how to do
 it, because we'll probabaly want to update it once guile and
 texinfo have new releases.


I'll take notes as I do it.


 Once 2.15 starts, I want to update the imagemagick compare
 command-line so that people with modern distributions can run the
 regtest check.  However, that would break the regtest check in
 lilubuntu 1, which is not kosher.

 No urgency; I'm hoping to have lilybuntu 2 out in a month.


I should be able to do it this week.

Jon


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\unset Timing.defaultBarType does not work

2010-12-12 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi,

NR 1.2.5 Bars  Bar lines  states that

  The default bar type used for automatically inserted bar lines is |.

If we change this towith  \set Timing.defaultBarType = 
  \unset Timing.defaultBarType  should change it back to  |  and print
again bar lines.
This is not the case.


\relative c' {
  c1
  c
  \set Timing.defaultBarType = 
  c1
  c
  \unset Timing.defaultBarType  % does not work
  c1
  c
  \set Timing.defaultBarType = |
  c1
  c
}


Cheers,
Xavier

PS:  \set  is not working immediately, but only *after* the NEXT NOTE.
I suppose this is an inherent issue but it would be great if it could be
solved, it is really not logical and highly counter-intuitive...

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New Spanish PO file for 'lilypond' (version 2.13.42)

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Re: \unset Timing.defaultBarType does not work

2010-12-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon 13 Dec 2010, 00:45 Xavier Scheuer wrote:
 Hi,
Hi!

 NR 1.2.5 Bars  Bar lines  states that
 
   The default bar type used for automatically inserted bar lines is |.
 
 If we change this towith  \set Timing.defaultBarType = 
   \unset Timing.defaultBarType  should change it back to  |  and print
 again bar lines.
 This is not the case.
Thank you, added as 1447:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1447

 
 
 \relative c' {
   c1
   c
   \set Timing.defaultBarType = 
   c1
   c
   \unset Timing.defaultBarType  % does not work
   c1
   c
   \set Timing.defaultBarType = |
   c1
   c
 }
 
 
 Cheers,
 Xavier
 
 PS:  \set  is not working immediately, but only *after* the NEXT NOTE.
 I suppose this is an inherent issue but it would be great if it could be
 solved, it is really not logical and highly counter-intuitive...

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