Re: Administration of mailing lists
David Kastrup writes: > Jean Abou Samra writes: > >> Thus I wrote to the general GNU list server admins and proposed >> to step up for being an admin on these lists, just like I am >> already an admin on lilypond-user-fr (the French-speaking equivalent >> of lilypond-user, in case you didn't know). >> >> Is that OK with everyone? > > I am still serving as one admin on other lists and there's never been > anything akin to "moderation" involved: you junk the spam and let the > other stuff through, usually with "mark this mail address as ok" to cut > down on future work. > > The "complex" decisions consists mostly of returning some from multiple > pending attempts to post the same content and telling the poster that > one did so and why. > > But that's actually rare, and if it's not excessive, it might be better > not to give the impression of micromanagement and just let things > through. > > That's the impression I also get from current LilyPond list moderators > (thanks David!): you don't really get the impression that there is > anybody doing anything except that the amount of visible spam is > essentially zero and that doesn't happen by itself. I see that I failed to answer the question: I find that "list moderator" on these lists is not as much a position of power as a light sideload of work and responsibility. As such, I'd have no qualms with any volunteer taking it on except for those with an obvious agenda, like wanting to shape the discourse. And I really don't have that expectation from any contributor here. So it's a "sure, go ahead" from me. -- David Kastrup
Re: Administration of mailing lists
> On Oct 7, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Dan Eble wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2022, at 16:45, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > >> Thus I wrote to the general GNU list server admins and proposed >> to step up for being an admin on these lists, just like I am >> already an admin on lilypond-user-fr (the French-speaking equivalent >> of lilypond-user, in case you didn't know). >> >> Is that OK with everyone? > > It is fine with me. > — > Dan Agreed
Re: Administration of mailing lists
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Thus I wrote to the general GNU list server admins and proposed > to step up for being an admin on these lists, just like I am > already an admin on lilypond-user-fr (the French-speaking equivalent > of lilypond-user, in case you didn't know). > > Is that OK with everyone? I am still serving as one admin on other lists and there's never been anything akin to "moderation" involved: you junk the spam and let the other stuff through, usually with "mark this mail address as ok" to cut down on future work. The "complex" decisions consists mostly of returning some from multiple pending attempts to post the same content and telling the poster that one did so and why. But that's actually rare, and if it's not excessive, it might be better not to give the impression of micromanagement and just let things through. That's the impression I also get from current LilyPond list moderators (thanks David!): you don't really get the impression that there is anybody doing anything except that the amount of visible spam is essentially zero and that doesn't happen by itself. -- David Kastrup
Re: Administration of mailing lists,Administration of mailing lists
> Is that OK with everyone? +1 Werner
Re: Administration of mailing lists
On Oct 7, 2022, at 16:45, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Thus I wrote to the general GNU list server admins and proposed > to step up for being an admin on these lists, just like I am > already an admin on lilypond-user-fr (the French-speaking equivalent > of lilypond-user, in case you didn't know). > > Is that OK with everyone? It is fine with me. — Dan
Administration of mailing lists
Hi, This email is cross-posted to lilypond-user, lilypond-devel and bug-lilypond. The admin for these three lists (d...@gnu.org, apparently David R. Linn) has not been active in the project for a long time, and I have not been able to reach him by email. This is problematic because you need an admin to nominate new list moderators. The moderators are the people who approve or reject posts to a list from people who aren't subscribed, or posts that are too big. I don't even know if there are actually any moderators active for any of these lists, is someone out there a moderator? The admins also have their addresses displayed at the bottom of the list info page (example: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user) so they are the ones people will contact in case of technical problems or questions about the list. I started to wonder about this situation when a user contacted me off-list after he had unsuccessfully tried to contact the admin. Thus I wrote to the general GNU list server admins and proposed to step up for being an admin on these lists, just like I am already an admin on lilypond-user-fr (the French-speaking equivalent of lilypond-user, in case you didn't know). Is that OK with everyone? Best, Jean OpenPGP_0xA3F0F60B893397FE.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
