Re: Frescobaldi distribution packages

2020-04-22 Thread Joram Noeck
Ubuntu 20.04 will come with LilyPond 2.20. Older releases are usually
not updated after the release and will keep 2.18. Ubuntu 2.20 will
probably be released tomorrow.

https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lilypond

Frescobaldi will be 3.0.0 and not the latest 3.1.2:
https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/frescobaldi

Cheers,
Joram



Re: Frescobaldi distribution packages

2020-04-22 Thread pkx166h

Hello On 22/04/2020 06:22, Andrew Bernard wrote:

Am I right in supposing that 2.20.0 is the now stable version? I
notice that, for example, installing Frescobaldi on OpenSuse Leap 15
installs 2.18.2 together with it. Should these system packages now use
2.20.0 instead? That would be a good way to get people off the old
versions, for those newly setting up.

How does lilypond get into distribution repositories anyway? Is there
any thing I can do to help in this regard?

It's not a big deal as it is trivial to install 2.20.0 and get
Frescobaldi to use that. But it seems to more 2.18.2 is, in a way,
deprecated, or at least not one's first choice now.

While I cannot speak for Frescobaldi, a general problem of LilyPond has 
been that the Guile (version 1.8) that was required for 2.18 (and pretty 
much all of 2.19 if not still 2.20) was finally deprecated such that 
most distributions had to remove LP because of that - at least that was 
how I, as a non-developer, understood it. This meant that LP had to be 
removed or packaged with its own version of Guile which was a problem 
for maintainers generally.


I am not sure what the current state of Guile packaging/support is with 
LP 2.20 and the various distributions and I am sure that others who know 
more can chime on or correct me if I was wrong.


But I think that was the gist of it right?

James





Re: Frescobaldi distribution packages

2020-04-22 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 22 apr 2020 alle 15:22, Andrew Bernard 
 ha scritto:

How does lilypond get into distribution repositories anyway? Is there
any thing I can do to help in this regard?


You may ask the distro maintainer to upgrade the package.

In Fedora, lilypond 2.20 is currently available in rawhide (33), but I 
guess it will be available soon in 32 as soon as it passes from beta to 
stable.

Same for Debian, I see 2.20 in testing:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lilypond






Frescobaldi distribution packages

2020-04-21 Thread Andrew Bernard
Am I right in supposing that 2.20.0 is the now stable version? I
notice that, for example, installing Frescobaldi on OpenSuse Leap 15
installs 2.18.2 together with it. Should these system packages now use
2.20.0 instead? That would be a good way to get people off the old
versions, for those newly setting up.

How does lilypond get into distribution repositories anyway? Is there
any thing I can do to help in this regard?

It's not a big deal as it is trivial to install 2.20.0 and get
Frescobaldi to use that. But it seems to more 2.18.2 is, in a way,
deprecated, or at least not one's first choice now.