Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-19 Thread Federico Bruni




Il giorno dom 16 dic 2018 alle 2:33, Andrew Bernard 
 ha scritto:
Re hanging VM, I tried downloading the Fedora VM for 0.2 release. It 
worked

fine. I redownloaded the Debian release for 0.3 and now it works fine.
Given the SHA sum file is wrong and that you can't check the 
download, I

wonder if the first two downloads were corrupt (although I very, very
rarely see corrupt downloads on my link)? Can we please fix the SHA 
sums

file? That would be helpful.



I'm uploading the correct checksum file.




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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-15 Thread Andrew Bernard
Oops - the dev user and password is given on github.

Andrew


On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 at 12:33, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Re hanging VM, I tried downloading the Fedora VM for 0.2 release. It
> worked fine. I redownloaded the Debian release for 0.3 and now it works
> fine. Given the SHA sum file is wrong and that you can't check the
> download, I wonder if the first two downloads were corrupt (although I
> very, very rarely see corrupt downloads on my link)? Can we please fix the
> SHA sums file? That would be helpful.
>
> I guessed the password to login. I seem to be in the dark regarding the
> documentation for things like this. Where is it located? [Sorry I am so
> dull and plodding on this topic.]
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 00:15, Andrew Bernard 
> wrote:
>
>> To clarify, on W10 host, I can make any 64 bit guestin Virtualbox. In a
>> Fedora 29 or Debian 9 guest VM, Virtualbox 5.2 will not show 64 bit machine
>> options, despite enabling VT-x/AMD-V in the vm machine settings.
>>
>> Running lilydev 0.3 Debian just hangs at the UEFI shell prompt, in a
>> machine running as a guest on W10.
>>
>>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-15 Thread Andrew Bernard
Re hanging VM, I tried downloading the Fedora VM for 0.2 release. It worked
fine. I redownloaded the Debian release for 0.3 and now it works fine.
Given the SHA sum file is wrong and that you can't check the download, I
wonder if the first two downloads were corrupt (although I very, very
rarely see corrupt downloads on my link)? Can we please fix the SHA sums
file? That would be helpful.

I guessed the password to login. I seem to be in the dark regarding the
documentation for things like this. Where is it located? [Sorry I am so
dull and plodding on this topic.]

Andrew


On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 00:15, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> To clarify, on W10 host, I can make any 64 bit guestin Virtualbox. In a
> Fedora 29 or Debian 9 guest VM, Virtualbox 5.2 will not show 64 bit machine
> options, despite enabling VT-x/AMD-V in the vm machine settings.
>
> Running lilydev 0.3 Debian just hangs at the UEFI shell prompt, in a
> machine running as a guest on W10.
>
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
To clarify, on W10 host, I can make any 64 bit guestin Virtualbox. In a
Fedora 29 or Debian 9 guest VM, Virtualbox 5.2 will not show 64 bit machine
options, despite enabling VT-x/AMD-V in the vm machine settings.

Running lilydev 0.3 Debian just hangs at the UEFI shell prompt, in a
machine running as a guest on W10.

Andrew


On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 23:53, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Thank you David. I have read all the many pages on the web on that topic!
> Does not work for me. Perhaps my BIOS is incompatible (new machine,
> though...)
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 23:27, Davide Liessi 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> If you have a 64 bit CPU but cannot make 64 bit VMs, you probably need
>> to enable CPU virtualization (Intel's VT-x or AMD's AMD-v) in your
>> BIOS.
>> I had to do the same on my machine.
>> See, e.g., https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62339 .
>>
>> Best wishes.
>>
>> Davide
>>
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
Thank you David. I have read all the many pages on the web on that topic!
Does not work for me. Perhaps my BIOS is incompatible (new machine,
though...)

Andrew


On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 23:27, Davide Liessi  wrote:

>
> If you have a 64 bit CPU but cannot make 64 bit VMs, you probably need
> to enable CPU virtualization (Intel's VT-x or AMD's AMD-v) in your
> BIOS.
> I had to do the same on my machine.
> See, e.g., https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62339 .
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Davide
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno ven 14 dic 2018 alle ore 13:21 Andrew Bernard
 ha scritto:
> I have installed Fedora 29 and Virtualbox 5.2. I have enabled EFI. I can
> only make 32 VM's. I understand this is a common - but tricky - issue. Do
> we need 64 bit? What architecture is the lilydev image? I could not find a
> reference to that info. I run Virtualbox on Windows 10 host.

If you have a 64 bit CPU but cannot make 64 bit VMs, you probably need
to enable CPU virtualization (Intel's VT-x or AMD's AMD-v) in your
BIOS.
I had to do the same on my machine.
See, e.g., https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62339 .

Best wishes.

Davide

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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Federico,

I have installed Fedora 29 and Virtualbox 5.2. I have enabled EFI. I can
only make 32 VM's. I understand this is a common - but tricky - issue. Do
we need 64 bit? What architecture is the lilydev image? I could not find a
reference to that info. I run Virtualbox on Windows 10 host.

Andrew


On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 21:07, Federico Bruni  wrote:

>
> I'm using Fedora 29 and VirtualBox 5.2.22.
>
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Federico Bruni
Or, if you want to insist with VM, you can try libvirt as described 
here:

https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDevOS/tree/master/mkosi#qemulibvirt


Il giorno ven 14 dic 2018 alle 11:03, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:

Hi Andrew

I'm using Fedora 29 and VirtualBox 5.2.22.
All I have to do to run the VM in VirtualBox is enabling EFI in VB 
machine settings.

Did you do it? See attached screenshot.

If you did it and still have this problem, then it may be some other 
misconfiguration. But I'm afraid I cannot help you, since I don't use 
VirtualBox anymore and I don't have much experience.




Il giorno ven 14 dic 2018 alle 10:16, Andrew Bernard 
 ha scritto:
Ok. Just wanting to persist for the moment with a Vritualbox VM, I 
studied
up on how boot with a UEFI system. Previously I was just getting a 
Shell>
prompt. Now I understand you must create startup.nsh containing I 
think:


\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI

But when I restart with this script, it just prints that out and sits
there, no further activity.

Is there a whole bunch of doco on this I have simply failed to 
uncover?

What am I doing wrong now?

Andrew



On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 12:51, Paul Morris  
wrote:



 On 12/13/18 8:47 PM, Paul Morris wrote:

 > I also recommend the container approach.

 Here are the steps for the container setup:

 https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDevOS/tree/v0.3/mkosi#container

 -Paul




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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
Ok. Just wanting to persist for the moment with a Vritualbox VM, I studied
up on how boot with a UEFI system. Previously I was just getting a Shell>
prompt. Now I understand you must create startup.nsh containing I think:

\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI

But when I restart with this script, it just prints that out and sits
there, no further activity.

Is there a whole bunch of doco on this I have simply failed to uncover?
What am I doing wrong now?

Andrew



On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 12:51, Paul Morris  wrote:

> On 12/13/18 8:47 PM, Paul Morris wrote:
>
> > I also recommend the container approach.
>
> Here are the steps for the container setup:
>
> https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDevOS/tree/v0.3/mkosi#container
>
> -Paul
>
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Paul Morris

On 12/13/18 8:47 PM, Paul Morris wrote:


I also recommend the container approach.


Here are the steps for the container setup:

https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDevOS/tree/v0.3/mkosi#container

-Paul



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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Paul Morris

Hi Andrew,

On 12/13/18 6:17 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote:

[I don't know anything about containers, but I am willing to learn. But it
would be goodo to get the VM machine going alos.]


I also recommend the container approach.  I hadn't used them before 
Federico brought them to LilyDev.


Basically after following the setup steps you end up with an open 
terminal and that is how you access and use the container environment 
(there's no GUI like with VirtualBox VM).  In that container terminal 
you run make, make doc, etc., anything that needs the dependencies, and 
that's basically all you need to use the container for.


You can access the source code files and edit them in your usual (host) 
OS using your usual tools.  Also using git and pushing patches up to 
Reitveld can be done in the host environment (where you have access to a 
browser, etc.).


It's nicer to use than a VM because you work in your familiar OS with 
familiar tools, and you basically get the full power of your machine (in 
terms of RAM, etc.) when compiling.


I'd like to add details like this on how it works to the LilyDev 
documentation if I can find time.


Thanks for working on the Python migration, BTW.

Cheers,
-Paul



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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Federico,

Small steps but moving forward. Enabling EFI works, but it boots to a
prompt Shell>. Whjat next?

[I don't know anything about containers, but I am willing to learn. But it
would be goodo to get the VM machine going alos.]

Andrew


On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 02:17, Federico Bruni  wrote:

> Hi Andrew
>
> As you can read in the big Note text under the 6th step here:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/lilydev
>
> Note: The image can be booted only on EFI, so you must enable it within
> the virtual machine’s settings – click on System → Motherboard
> and select ‘Extended features: Enable EFI’.
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Federico Bruni

Hi Andrew

As you can read in the big Note text under the 6th step here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/lilydev

Note: The image can be booted only on EFI, so you must enable it within 
the virtual machine’s settings – click on System → Motherboard 
and select ‘Extended features: Enable EFI’.



BTW, why don't you use the container on Debian 9?
You may have systemd-nspawn already installed, so you can launch it 
without installing anything. It's one command, no configuration needed, 
and lightweight.



Il giorno gio 13 dic 2018 alle 14:01, Andrew Bernard 
 ha scritto:
Carrying on despite sha256sum mismatch, vboxmanage converts and does 
not
complain. Running up the image in Virtualbox 5.2 on Debian 9 and on 
Windows

10: no bootable image found.

Andrew


On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 23:25, Andrew Bernard 


wrote:


 Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:

 $ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
 169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
 lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

 That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:

 $ cat SHA256SUMS
 7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a6
 *lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

 What is happening here?

 Andrew



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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Federico,

A bit confusng then! Still does not explain why the image will not boot.
Any advice there?

Andrew


On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 01:03, Federico Bruni  wrote:

>
>
> Il giorno gio 13 dic 2018 alle 13:25, Andrew Bernard
>  ha scritto:
> > Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:
> >
> > $ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
> > 169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
> > lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
> >
> > That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:
> >
> > $ cat SHA256SUMS
> > 7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a6
> > *lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
> >
> > What is happening here?
> >
> >
>
> I have the same.
>
> The first one is correct, while the second is an older one. The file is
> correct, no need to download it again.
> SHA256SUMS is automatically generated by mkosi after the build. I don't
> know why it was not updated.
>
>
>
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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Federico Bruni




Il giorno gio 13 dic 2018 alle 13:25, Andrew Bernard 
 ha scritto:

Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:

$ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:

$ cat SHA256SUMS
7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a6
*lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

What is happening here?




I have the same.

The first one is correct, while the second is an older one. The file is 
correct, no need to download it again.
SHA256SUMS is automatically generated by mkosi after the build. I don't 
know why it was not updated.





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Re: LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Carrying on despite sha256sum mismatch, vboxmanage converts and does not
complain. Running up the image in Virtualbox 5.2 on Debian 9 and on Windows
10: no bootable image found.

Andrew


On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 23:25, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:
>
> $ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
> 169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
> lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
>
> That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:
>
> $ cat SHA256SUMS
> 7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a6
> *lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
>
> What is happening here?
>
> Andrew
>
>
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LilyDev 0.3 sha256sum

2018-12-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Downloaded from github twice. I get this sum:

$ sha256sum lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw
169270d9539202a90339aca91c6932195dcf474cff113db47aaa3cf6d5005476
lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

That does not match the SHA256SUMS file:

$ cat SHA256SUMS
7442b6788ae71eaef13b3f1e7e33150d3bc9fb1677226fd7d6c3cfd80d1f66a6
*lilydev-debian-vm-0.3.raw

What is happening here?

Andrew
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