Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 3 gen 2017 alle 21:22, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:
Il giorno mer 28 dic 2016 alle 21:29, Graham Percival 
 ha scritto:

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 06:24:48PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote:

 The default should be httpredir:
  httpredir.debian.org

 Have you tried again? I hope that it's just a temporary network 
problem.


Yes, seems to have been temporary.  I tried it 3 times yesterday,
but now it's working.


Ok


Well, it never worked for me.
I tried maybe 3 times this week.

I was using virt-manager which allows to easily switch to another 
console in the guest and I saw that the network was not working during 
the installation (cannot ping a domain, cannot run ipconfig). No time 
now to investigate...



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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 3 gen 2017 alle 21:50, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:
To everybody who installed LilyDev 5.0: do you see some icons missing 
in the menu? (e.g. under System Tools> qterminal)


It seems that the icon theme is not set by default. Probably a debian 
bug, but I've not investigated.
You can set it in the menu Preferences>LxQT settings>Appearance>Icons 
Theme and choose one of those listed (e.g. Adwaita).




This is fixed now:
https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/commit/8c321cb1cc2212aaa6528b1784b76f825debebff

I have a new release ready, but I must postpone to Monday, because I'm 
about to leave my office (and uploading the image to github takes a lot 
of time).





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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno ven 20 gen 2017 alle 2:16, Paul  ha 
scritto:

Hi Federico,

On 01/19/2017 06:35 AM, Federico Bruni wrote:
If you have some time, can you try installing another Debian testing 
iso? Choose the netinst ISO for your architecture here:

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

This would help to understand if the problem is in LilyDev or in 
Debian. I guess it's the latter.
Probably some hardware/kernel problem. I'm just guessing, I never 
experienced these problems.


Well, this is probably good and bad news, but I tried the netinst 
Debian testing iso (i386 with LXDE) and it's working fine.  (Oddly 
enough it works both with and without PAE/NX enabled.)


Maybe I'll use this as an opportunity to try setting up all the dev 
dependencies from scratch?


This is what I'd recommend. If you managed to get the VM working...



I tried installing LilyDev5 on my old mac laptop.  It installs 
fine, and I can boot into LXQT, entering my password, but then 
there seems to be some problem with the mouse/keyboard 
integration as I can't get it to respond to clicks or key presses 
after I have logged in.


This is a problem of Virtual Box. I'm afraid that you should ask for 
help on Virtual Box forums.


I installed it on this old laptop just to see if it would work, but 
it is too old and slow to be of any real use.


Ok




virt-manager logs:

A. When installing virt-manager and dependencies via synaptic 
package manager:


W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 
'/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user 
'_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280


Ah, thanks.


Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed


$ aptitude show libvirt-bin


Synaptic package manager shows that it's installed.  (I tried that 
command but I don't have aptitude installed.)


Ok




 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started


$ systemctl status libvirtd


Looks like I did manage to get this started, as confirmed by this 
command.



- You are member of the 'libvirtd' group


$ groups


Looks like there is no libvirtd group.  So that's probably it.


I see that 16.04 is Yakkety, so according to the guide below you should 
add your user to libvirt. You can do it with this command:


$ sudo adduser $USER libvirt

Then exit the session, log in again and check that it is now present:

$ groups





Have you verified these points?
IIRC you are quite new to Linux and use Ubuntu in your host machine, 
right? Which version?

Yes, still pretty new at it.  Ubuntu 16.04 is my host machine.


Read this guide:
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html

In later versions of libvirt the correct group is libvirt (instead 
of libvirtd). That's the case for Fedora25, libvirt version 2.2.0.


Thanks for the tips and all your work on LilyDev!  At this point I 
may just stick with VirtualBox rather than try to get up to speed 
with libvirt (assuming things go well with this new debian vm).


I realize now that I may have suggested a simpler command to check if 
Virtual Box is the problem or not. Please try running this in a 
terminal:


kvm -cdrom lilydev-bla-bla.iso -boot d -m 2048






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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

On 01/19/2017 08:16 PM, Paul wrote:

Well, this is probably good and bad news, but I tried the netinst 
Debian testing iso (i386 with LXDE) and it's working fine.  (Oddly 
enough it works both with and without PAE/NX enabled.)


I spoke too soon.  Although it worked at first, I'm now having the same 
problem with the vanilla debian VM that I have with LilyDev5...  sigh...


-Paul

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

Hi Federico,

On 01/19/2017 06:35 AM, Federico Bruni wrote:
If you have some time, can you try installing another Debian testing 
iso? Choose the netinst ISO for your architecture here:

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

This would help to understand if the problem is in LilyDev or in 
Debian. I guess it's the latter.
Probably some hardware/kernel problem. I'm just guessing, I never 
experienced these problems.


Well, this is probably good and bad news, but I tried the netinst Debian 
testing iso (i386 with LXDE) and it's working fine.  (Oddly enough it 
works both with and without PAE/NX enabled.)


Maybe I'll use this as an opportunity to try setting up all the dev 
dependencies from scratch?


I tried installing LilyDev5 on my old mac laptop.  It installs fine, 
and I can boot into LXQT, entering my password, but then there seems 
to be some problem with the mouse/keyboard integration as I can't get 
it to respond to clicks or key presses after I have logged in.


This is a problem of Virtual Box. I'm afraid that you should ask for 
help on Virtual Box forums.


I installed it on this old laptop just to see if it would work, but it 
is too old and slow to be of any real use.



virt-manager logs:

A. When installing virt-manager and dependencies via synaptic package 
manager:


W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 
'/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - 
pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280


Ah, thanks.


Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed


$ aptitude show libvirt-bin


Synaptic package manager shows that it's installed.  (I tried that 
command but I don't have aptitude installed.)



 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started


$ systemctl status libvirtd


Looks like I did manage to get this started, as confirmed by this command.


- You are member of the 'libvirtd' group


$ groups


Looks like there is no libvirtd group.  So that's probably it.


Have you verified these points?
IIRC you are quite new to Linux and use Ubuntu in your host machine, 
right? Which version? 


Yes, still pretty new at it.  Ubuntu 16.04 is my host machine.


Read this guide:
https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html

In later versions of libvirt the correct group is libvirt (instead of 
libvirtd). That's the case for Fedora25, libvirt version 2.2.0.


Thanks for the tips and all your work on LilyDev!  At this point I may 
just stick with VirtualBox rather than try to get up to speed with 
libvirt (assuming things go well with this new debian vm).


Thanks again,
-Paul


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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mer 18 gen 2017 alle 18:54, Paul  ha 
scritto:
- have you tried installing another Linux image on the same version 
of Virtualbox?


My LilyDev4 VM is working fine (I haven't tried re-installing it from 
scratch).


If you have some time, can you try installing another Debian testing 
iso? Choose the netinst ISO for your architecture here:

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

This would help to understand if the problem is in LilyDev or in 
Debian. I guess it's the latter.
Probably some hardware/kernel problem. I'm just guessing, I never 
experienced these problems.




- please try also installing LilyDev with virt-manager: 
https://virt-manager.org/


I gave that a try but did not get far.  Seems to be a dependency or 
permissions issue I couldn't figure out.  Error messages below.


I hope to make a new release of LilyDev this week. I'd be interested 
to know if making LilyDev work for you requires some change to 
LilyDev itself (I don't think so, but let's see..).


I tried installing LilyDev5 on my old mac laptop.  It installs fine, 
and I can boot into LXQT, entering my password, but then there seems 
to be some problem with the mouse/keyboard integration as I can't get 
it to respond to clicks or key presses after I have logged in.


This is a problem of Virtual Box. I'm afraid that you should ask for 
help on Virtual Box forums.




-Paul


virt-manager logs:

A. When installing virt-manager and dependencies via synaptic package 
manager:


W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 
'/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - 
pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280



B. When using virt-manager:


Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed
 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started

Libvirt URI is: lxc:///

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 903, 
in _do_open

self._backend.open(self._do_creds_password)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 148, in 
open

open_flags)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libvirt.py", line 105, in 
openAuth

if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to 
'/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied



Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed


$ aptitude show libvirt-bin



 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started


$ systemctl status libvirtd



 - You are member of the 'libvirtd' group


$ groups

Have you verified these points?
IIRC you are quite new to Linux and use Ubuntu in your host machine, 
right? Which version? Read this guide:

https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/libvirt.html

In later versions of libvirt the correct group is libvirt (instead of 
libvirtd). That's the case for Fedora25, libvirt version 2.2.0.





Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 903, 
in _do_open

self._backend.open(self._do_creds_password)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 148, in 
open

open_flags)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libvirt.py", line 105, in 
openAuth

if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to 
'/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied






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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

Hi Federico,  Thanks for the ideas:

On 01/18/2017 12:36 AM, Federico Bruni wrote:

Some ideas to help isolate the problem:

- have you checked the integrity of LilyDev .iso file with md5sum?


Yes, it's ok.

- have you started the installation from scratch (i.e. not copied the 
.vdi file created with previous version of VirtualBox)?


Yes, same result.

- have you tried installing another Linux image on the same version of 
Virtualbox?


My LilyDev4 VM is working fine (I haven't tried re-installing it from 
scratch).


- please try also installing LilyDev with virt-manager: 
https://virt-manager.org/


I gave that a try but did not get far.  Seems to be a dependency or 
permissions issue I couldn't figure out.  Error messages below.


I hope to make a new release of LilyDev this week. I'd be interested 
to know if making LilyDev work for you requires some change to LilyDev 
itself (I don't think so, but let's see..).


I tried installing LilyDev5 on my old mac laptop.  It installs fine, and 
I can boot into LXQT, entering my password, but then there seems to be 
some problem with the mouse/keyboard integration as I can't get it to 
respond to clicks or key presses after I have logged in.


-Paul


virt-manager logs:

A. When installing virt-manager and dependencies via synaptic package 
manager:


W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 
'/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - 
pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)



B. When using virt-manager:


Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed
 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started

Libvirt URI is: lxc:///

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 903, 
in _do_open

self._backend.open(self._do_creds_password)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 148, in open
open_flags)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libvirt.py", line 105, in openAuth
if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to 
'/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied



Unable to connect to libvirt.

Verify that:
 - The 'libvirt-bin' package is installed
 - The 'libvirtd' daemon has been started
 - You are member of the 'libvirtd' group

Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py", line 903, 
in _do_open

self._backend.open(self._do_creds_password)
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py", line 148, in open
open_flags)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libvirt.py", line 105, in openAuth
if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virConnectOpenAuth() failed')
libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to 
'/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied



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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 3 gen 2017 alle 21:22, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:

In a similar note, could we get a Terminal icon on the taskbar?
Most people won't know that they can get an xterm by pressing
ctrl-alt-t.


Yes, I see that it's a matter of adding a few lines  to 
~/.config/lxqt/panel.conf (section [quicklaunch]).

I'll try to figure out what's the best way to add it in LilyDev.


I decided that it's not worth doing it. I would have to play with 
complicate live-build hooks. In the application menu there's a big 
"Drop application icons here". Pretty easy. And each developer can 
choose what to put there.


On the other hand, I've been hit by the problem of the "bad archive 
mirror", that you reported before. I think that it happens because I 
used stretch instead of testing for repository names. I'll fix this and 
test again.





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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Hi Paul

Il giorno mar 17 gen 2017 alle 21:42, Paul  ha 
scritto:

On 01/03/2017 03:42 PM, Federico Bruni wrote:
Il giorno ven 23 dic 2016 alle 17:26, Paul  ha 
scritto:
Hi Federico, I double-checked and I do/did have the box checked to 
enable PAE.  I tried un-checking it and Virtual Box complained 
about it right away upon starting up the VM.


So when I get a chance I may try James' approach of using a newer 
version of Virtual Box, or else your approach with libvirt.  (No 
time at the moment though...)


Today I've installed Virtual Box 5.1.10 on Fedora from rpmfusion.
When I started the machine the first time I got an error about the 
kernel and I followed VB advice to run two commands as root user:


akmods
systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service

Then it worked fine.
But Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, right?


Hi all, Following James' instructions I've upgraded to VirtualBox 
5.1.13 r112787 (Qt5.6.1)
And I tried creating and installing a new VM with LilyDev5 but I get 
the same problem.  (Black screen after the 'loading initial 
ramdisk...')


I also tried the commands Federico mentioned, but they did not help.  
(akmods seems to be a fedora thing, not found on ubuntu, and the 
other command worked, but did not change anything.)


I tried opening in 'recovery mode' and got this far on the screen 
before it froze up:


rtc_cmos rtc_cmos: setting system clock to [...] UTC
Freeing unused kernel memory: 740K
Write protecting the kernel text: 5744k
Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 1704k
Loading, please wait...



In the Virtualbox log files it always gets to the same place shown 
below.


I'm at a loss on what to try next.  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance for 
any pointers or suggestions.




Some ideas to help isolate the problem:

- have you checked the integrity of LilyDev .iso file with md5sum?
- have you started the installation from scratch (i.e. not copied the 
.vdi file created with previous version of VirtualBox)?
- have you tried installing another Linux image on the same version of 
Virtualbox?
- please try also installing LilyDev with virt-manager: 
https://virt-manager.org/


I hope to make a new release of LilyDev this week. I'd be interested to 
know if making LilyDev work for you requires some change to LilyDev 
itself (I don't think so, but let's see..).





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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

On 01/03/2017 03:42 PM, Federico Bruni wrote:
Il giorno ven 23 dic 2016 alle 17:26, Paul  ha 
scritto:
Hi Federico, I double-checked and I do/did have the box checked to 
enable PAE.  I tried un-checking it and Virtual Box complained about 
it right away upon starting up the VM.


So when I get a chance I may try James' approach of using a newer 
version of Virtual Box, or else your approach with libvirt.  (No time 
at the moment though...)


Today I've installed Virtual Box 5.1.10 on Fedora from rpmfusion.
When I started the machine the first time I got an error about the 
kernel and I followed VB advice to run two commands as root user:


akmods
systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service

Then it worked fine.
But Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, right?


Hi all, Following James' instructions I've upgraded to VirtualBox 5.1.13 
r112787 (Qt5.6.1)


And I tried creating and installing a new VM with LilyDev5 but I get the 
same problem. (Black screen after the 'loading initial ramdisk...')


I also tried the commands Federico mentioned, but they did not help. 
(akmods seems to be a fedora thing, not found on ubuntu, and the other 
command worked, but did not change anything.)


I tried opening in 'recovery mode' and got this far on the screen before 
it froze up:


rtc_cmos rtc_cmos: setting system clock to [...] UTC Freeing unused 
kernel memory: 740K Write protecting the kernel text: 5744k Write 
protecting the kernel read-only data: 1704k Loading, please wait...


In the Virtualbox log files it always gets to the same place shown below.

I'm at a loss on what to try next. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any 
pointers or suggestions.


-Paul

[omitting earlier parts...]

00:00:23.677316 GIM: KVM: VCPU 0: Enabled system-time struct. at 
0x379fd000 - u32TscScale=0xcd47be37 i8TscShift=-1 uVersion=2 
fFlags=0x1 uTsc=0x0 uVirtNanoTS=0x0


00:00:23.677344 TM: Host/VM is not suitable for using TSC mode 
'RealTscOffset', request to change TSC mode ignored


00:00:23.922374 GIM: KVM: Enabled wall-clock struct. at 
0x1a8c1108 - u32Sec=1484682583 u32Nano=222082000 uVersion=2


00:00:24.056792 PIT: mode=2 count=0x12a5 (4773) - 249.98 Hz (ch=0)

00:00:24.242835 PATM: Disabling IDT 80 patch handler da599460

00:00:24.243921 PATM: Disabling IDT fd patch handler da599bb8

00:00:24.244665 PATM: Disabling IDT fc patch handler da599c30

00:00:24.245348 PATM: Disabling IDT fb patch handler da599ca8

00:00:24.246134 PATM: Disabling IDT 20 patch handler da599d20

00:00:24.246496 PATM: Disabling IDT f8 patch handler da599d58

00:00:24.246850 PATM: Disabling IDT f7 patch handler da599d94

00:00:24.247536 PATM: Disabling IDT f2 patch handler da599e0c

00:00:24.247907 PATM: Disabling IDT f1 patch handler da599e48

00:00:24.248251 PATM: Disabling IDT ef patch handler da599e84

00:00:24.248799 PATM: Disabling IDT fe patch handler da599efc

00:00:24.249499 PATM: Disabling IDT f0 patch handler da599f74

00:00:24.250016 PATM: Disabling IDT f6 patch handler da599fec

00:00:24.250329 PATM: Disabling IDT fa patch handler da59a064

00:00:24.250424 PATM: Disabling IDT f9 patch handler da59a0dc

00:00:24.250526 PATM: Disabling IDT f4 patch handler da59a154

00:00:24.250625 PATM: Disabling IDT 10 patch handler da59a1cc

00:00:24.250678 PATM: Disabling IDT 13 patch handler da59a1dc

00:00:24.250724 PATM: Disabling IDT 7 patch handler da59a1ec

00:00:24.250771 PATM: Disabling IDT 4 patch handler da59a200

00:00:24.250815 PATM: Disabling IDT 5 patch handler da59a210

00:00:24.250861 PATM: Disabling IDT 6 patch handler da59a220

00:00:24.250904 PATM: Disabling IDT 9 patch handler da59a230

00:00:24.250944 PATM: Disabling IDT a patch handler da59a240

00:00:24.250984 PATM: Disabling IDT b patch handler da59a250

00:00:24.251025 PATM: Disabling IDT c patch handler da59a260

00:00:24.251063 PATM: Disabling IDT 11 patch handler da59a270

00:00:24.251097 PATM: Disabling IDT 0 patch handler da59a280

00:00:24.251133 PATM: Disabling IDT 12 patch handler da59a290

00:00:24.251166 PATM: Disabling IDT f patch handler da59a2a0

00:00:24.251250 PATM: Disabling IDT e patch handler da59a48c

00:00:24.251287 PATM: Disabling IDT 1 patch handler da59a500

00:00:24.251319 PATM: Disabling IDT 2 patch handler da59a564

00:00:24.251353 PATM: Disabling IDT 3 patch handler da59a640

00:00:24.832869 PATM: Disabling IDT 30 patch handler da599578

00:00:24.937255 PIT: mode=0 count=0x1 (65536) - 18.20 Hz (ch=0)

00:00:25.247422 OHCI: Software reset

00:00:26.403126 PATM: Disabling IDT 3c patch handler da5995d8

00:00:26.411515 PATM: Disabling IDT 31 patch handler da599580

00:00:26.508906 PATM: Disabling IDT 14 patch handler da7ed120

00:00:26.508952 PATM: Disabling IDT 15 patch handler da7ed129

00:00:26.508972 PATM: Disabling IDT 16 patch handler da7ed132

00:00:26.508989 PATM: Disabling IDT 17 patch handler da7ed13b

00:00:26.509006 PATM: Disabling IDT 18 patch handler da7ed144

00:00:26.509022 PATM: Disabling IDT 19 patch 

Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[David Kastrup]

Federico Bruni  writes:

> Il giorno ven 23 dic 2016 alle 17:26, Paul  ha
> scritto:
>> Hi Federico, I double-checked and I do/did have the box checked to
>> enable PAE.  I tried un-checking it and Virtual Box complained about
>> it right away upon starting up the VM.
>>
>> So when I get a chance I may try James' approach of using a newer
>> version of Virtual Box, or else your approach with libvirt.  (No
>> time at the moment though...)
>
> Today I've installed Virtual Box 5.1.10 on Fedora from rpmfusion.
> When I started the machine the first time I got an error about the
> kernel and I followed VB advice to run two commands as root user:
>
> akmods
> systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service
>
> Then it worked fine.
> But Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, right?

Wrong.  They offer a boot alternative using upstart, but the default has
been changed to systemd.

Nice when it works, horrible to fix when it doesn't.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

To everybody who installed LilyDev 5.0: do you see some icons missing 
in the menu? (e.g. under System Tools> qterminal)


It seems that the icon theme is not set by default. Probably a debian 
bug, but I've not investigated.
You can set it in the menu Preferences>LxQT settings>Appearance>Icons 
Theme and choose one of those listed (e.g. Adwaita).



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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno ven 23 dic 2016 alle 17:26, Paul  ha 
scritto:
Hi Federico, I double-checked and I do/did have the box checked to 
enable PAE.  I tried un-checking it and Virtual Box complained about 
it right away upon starting up the VM.


So when I get a chance I may try James' approach of using a newer 
version of Virtual Box, or else your approach with libvirt.  (No time 
at the moment though...)


Today I've installed Virtual Box 5.1.10 on Fedora from rpmfusion.
When I started the machine the first time I got an error about the 
kernel and I followed VB advice to run two commands as root user:


akmods
systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service

Then it worked fine.
But Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, right?




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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mer 28 dic 2016 alle 21:29, Graham Percival 
 ha scritto:

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 06:24:48PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote:

 The default should be httpredir:
  httpredir.debian.org

 Have you tried again? I hope that it's just a temporary network 
problem.


Yes, seems to have been temporary.  I tried it 3 times yesterday,
but now it's working.


Ok



I currently have an awkward problem with virtualbox on Ubuntu
16.04; it keeps on resizing the window one step smaller, until
it's something like 50 pixels high and 300 pixels wide.  This
doesn't happen if I maximize the window.  Very odd, and not unique
to lilydev; I see this when I virtualize ubuntu 16.04, but not
other operating systems.  Very odd.


I've just installed Virtual Box 5.1.10 from rpmfusion and it works fine.
You may try using a recent build, as suggested by James in this thread.




I've logged in, but it doesn't seem like like git-cl is installed?
The Contributor Guide says that it should be there:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/git_002dcl


Yes, a setup script was supposed to start at first login, but while 
upgrading LilyDev it stopped working. If you've followed the thread, 
this is now fixed.




In a similar note, could we get a Terminal icon on the taskbar?
Most people won't know that they can get an xterm by pressing
ctrl-alt-t.


Yes, I see that it's a matter of adding a few lines  to 
~/.config/lxqt/panel.conf (section [quicklaunch]).

I'll try to figure out what's the best way to add it in LilyDev.



In a related matter -- and please forgive me if we've discussed
this before -- have we considered distributing an exported OS?  In
the virtualbox GUI, this is called "Export Appliance", but it can
be done in a standard format so that (in theory) non-virtualbox
people can run it.  This would let people "get started" much
faster, and without the intimidation of installing Linux.  It
might also be easier to customize a bunch of things, such as
git-cl, and even putting a git clone of lilypond in there.


This is done already by a setup script, which you missed because 
LilyDev 5.0 was buggy.

But you can still run it manually:

cd ~
./.lilydev-setup.sh

In general, live-build allows to customize a bunch of things, see:
https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/tree/master/config/includes.chroot/etc/skel


I realize that this would increase the filesize; it looks like
1.8 Gb for the exported appliance, compared to 1.1 GB for the
installer.


I remember that LilyPond developers were very concerned about the file 
size.
And the installation process is very easy. It might be made even 
easier, I think, by letting the debian-installer skip some optional 
configuration (such as the proxy settings).





(speaking of disk size, I see that the just-installed size is
3.1G.  What's pushing it so high?  texlive?  I poked around a bit,
but I couldn't find any packages that looks superfulous... maybe
I'm just out of date with how large installed software is these
days.  I must admit that I'm shocked to see that my desktop /usr/
is 8.5G !)


Yes, it's texlive. It pulls a lot of dependencies, including doc 
packages IIRC.
The system should be very basic, as live-build is configured to not 
install recommended packages.





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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 29 dic 2016 alle 11:57, Thomas Morley 
 ha scritto:

 Though, I was surprised not to find the lilypond-git-repo. Did I
 overlook somthing?
 Anyway I cloned it manually.



 The first time you log in you should see a terminal popping up and 
asking for your name and email for git commits; then all the 
required repos are downloaded.

 The setup script is called by this file:

 
https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/blob/master/config/includes.chroot/etc/skel/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop


 Do you have this file within your home directory? 
~/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop


 Is qterminal installed?


qterminal is installed and lilydev.desktop is present, though I've
never seen it executed.


I found out why it didn't work:

In ~/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop you should:

1. replace ~ with $HOME. That is:
Exec=qterminal --workdir $HOME -e ./.lilydev-setup.sh

2. Remove this line:
Terminal=true

Otherwise you need the xterm package (which used to be automatically 
installed in previous versions, but it's not needed, as we have already 
qterminal), because it seems that if Terminal=true is set then the 
desktop file calls the xterm first and then executes the qterminal 
command.


I'm going to fix it immediately. Next release should work fine.


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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Thomas Morley]

2016-12-29 9:19 GMT+01:00 Federico Bruni :
> Il 28 dic 2016 8:46 PM Thomas Morley  ha scritto:

>> Though, I was surprised not to find the lilypond-git-repo. Did I
>> overlook somthing?
>> Anyway I cloned it manually.
>>
>
> The first time you log in you should see a terminal popping up and asking for 
> your name and email for git commits; then all the required repos are 
> downloaded.
> The setup script is called by this file:
>
> https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/blob/master/config/includes.chroot/etc/skel/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop
>
> Do you have this file within your home directory? 
> ~/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop
>
> Is qterminal installed?

qterminal is installed and lilydev.desktop is present, though I've
never seen it executed.

>
> I'm on a mobile phone now, I'll check it on 2nd of January.
>
>> Compiling LilyPond with ../configure --enable-guile2 returns:
>> [...]
>> WARNING: Please consider installing optional programs or files:  URW++
>> OTF fonts (download OTF files from
>> 'http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=urw-core35-fonts.git;a=commit;h=79bcdfb34fbce12b592cce389fa7a19da6b5b018'
>> and put them under '~/.local/share/fonts' etc., or use
>> --with-urwotf-dir) extractpdfmark (Optionally using Ghostscript >=
>> 9.20 together with Extract PDFmark can significantly reduce the disk
>> space required for building the documentation and the final PDF
>> files.)
>> [...]
>>
>> May I suggest to include those fonts in next release?
>>
>
> I thought about including the fonts, but then I changed my mind because they 
> are optional and there's an open issue in the tracker to find a solution for 
> this. But I can add them, if you think it's worth.

On second thought, leave them out, would increase diskspace even more.
Not worth it.

>
>>
>> Otherwise it works fine so far, maybe a bit slower than usual. (Not
>> LilyPond, but the whole thingy.)
>> Or maybe more memory-consuming (I remember this from earlier versions of VB).
>>
>
> Strange, I experienced the opposite. I guess that it depends on the hardware?

Probably.

As a general off-topic side-note, I'm pretty annoyed by a lot of "up
to date" software.
It's often colorful/rich of features, yes, but very often without
further functionality. More annoying if there is no possibility to
switch such things off or having to search hours how to do it.
Those things are eating up my diskspace (I don't have much), nothing else.
I loved old Ubuntu 10.04 and kept it until it was impossible to
compile LilyPond with its ancient gcc-version.

Now I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon-desktop, which helps a bit, but
the perfomance is stil not as good as it was back with Ubuntu 10.04.
Which reminds of the sluggishness of LilyPond with guile-2.0.13 ...


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il 28 dic 2016 8:46 PM Thomas Morley  ha scritto:
>
> Hi Federico, 
>
> 2016-12-14 13:53 GMT+01:00 Federico Bruni : 
> > Hi all 
> > 
> > Eventually I managed to build the new ISO. 
> > I decided to upgrade to Stretch (still in testing), because otherwise I had 
> > problems with pinning guile-2.0 from testing. Another advantage is that in 
> > Stretch there's also LxQT (successor of LXDE), which seems lightweight, 
> > fast 
> > and feature-rich. 
> > 
> > You can donwload the image here: 
> > https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/releases/tag/v5.0 
> > 
> > Let me know if you find any problem. 

>
> I just tried it, but had to download a newer VirtualBox than my 64-bit 
> Ubuntu-16.04 offered, i.e I switched from 5.0.24 to 5.1.11. 
> It firstly didn't work out, although I followed Jame's advice right 
> from the start. No idea how I got it finally working ... 
>

I don't know what might be wrong with older versions of VirtualBox, as I test 
the images with libvirt only.

> Though, I was surprised not to find the lilypond-git-repo. Did I 
> overlook somthing? 
> Anyway I cloned it manually. 
>

The first time you log in you should see a terminal popping up and asking for 
your name and email for git commits; then all the required repos are downloaded.
The setup script is called by this file:

https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/blob/master/config/includes.chroot/etc/skel/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop

Do you have this file within your home directory? 
~/.config/autostart/lilydev.desktop

Is qterminal installed?

I'm on a mobile phone now, I'll check it on 2nd of January.

> Compiling LilyPond with ../configure --enable-guile2 returns: 
> [...] 
> WARNING: Please consider installing optional programs or files:  URW++ 
> OTF fonts (download OTF files from 
> 'http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=urw-core35-fonts.git;a=commit;h=79bcdfb34fbce12b592cce389fa7a19da6b5b018'
>  
> and put them under '~/.local/share/fonts' etc., or use 
> --with-urwotf-dir) extractpdfmark (Optionally using Ghostscript >= 
> 9.20 together with Extract PDFmark can significantly reduce the disk 
> space required for building the documentation and the final PDF 
> files.) 
> [...] 
>
> May I suggest to include those fonts in next release? 
>

I thought about including the fonts, but then I changed my mind because they 
are optional and there's an open issue in the tracker to find a solution for 
this. But I can add them, if you think it's worth.

>
> Otherwise it works fine so far, maybe a bit slower than usual. (Not 
> LilyPond, but the whole thingy.) 
> Or maybe more memory-consuming (I remember this from earlier versions of VB). 
>

Strange, I experienced the opposite. I guess that it depends on the hardware? 
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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Graham Percival]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 06:24:48PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote:
> The default should be httpredir:
>  httpredir.debian.org
> 
> Have you tried again? I hope that it's just a temporary network problem.

Yes, seems to have been temporary.  I tried it 3 times yesterday,
but now it's working.

I currently have an awkward problem with virtualbox on Ubuntu
16.04; it keeps on resizing the window one step smaller, until
it's something like 50 pixels high and 300 pixels wide.  This
doesn't happen if I maximize the window.  Very odd, and not unique
to lilydev; I see this when I virtualize ubuntu 16.04, but not
other operating systems.  Very odd.


I've logged in, but it doesn't seem like like git-cl is installed?
The Contributor Guide says that it should be there:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/git_002dcl

In a similar note, could we get a Terminal icon on the taskbar?
Most people won't know that they can get an xterm by pressing
ctrl-alt-t.


In a related matter -- and please forgive me if we've discussed
this before -- have we considered distributing an exported OS?  In
the virtualbox GUI, this is called "Export Appliance", but it can
be done in a standard format so that (in theory) non-virtualbox
people can run it.  This would let people "get started" much
faster, and without the intimidation of installing Linux.  It
might also be easier to customize a bunch of things, such as
git-cl, and even putting a git clone of lilypond in there.

I realize that this would increase the filesize; it looks like
1.8 Gb for the exported appliance, compared to 1.1 GB for the
installer.


(speaking of disk size, I see that the just-installed size is
3.1G.  What's pushing it so high?  texlive?  I poked around a bit,
but I couldn't find any packages that looks superfulous... maybe
I'm just out of date with how large installed software is these
days.  I must admit that I'm shocked to see that my desktop /usr/
is 8.5G !)

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Thomas Morley]

Hi Federico,

2016-12-14 13:53 GMT+01:00 Federico Bruni :
> Hi all
>
> Eventually I managed to build the new ISO.
> I decided to upgrade to Stretch (still in testing), because otherwise I had
> problems with pinning guile-2.0 from testing. Another advantage is that in
> Stretch there's also LxQT (successor of LXDE), which seems lightweight, fast
> and feature-rich.
>
> You can donwload the image here:
> https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/releases/tag/v5.0
>
> Let me know if you find any problem.
>
>
> Notable changes:
>
> - upgrade to Debian 9 Stretch and live-build 5
> - switch to [LXQt](http://lxqt.org/), successor of LXDE
> - upgrade to guile-2
> - update some lilypond build dependencies
> - added samba support: now you can share files between host and guest just
> by using in the file manager a link like `smb://10.0.20.10/` (replace it
> with your local IP); bookmark the link and it will be always available under
> Places.
>
> Let me know if you need any guidance with Samba shares, in case you prefer
> using libvirt instead of VirtualBox.



I just tried it, but had to download a newer VirtualBox than my 64-bit
Ubuntu-16.04 offered, i.e I switched from 5.0.24 to 5.1.11.
It firstly didn't work out, although I followed Jame's advice right
from the start. No idea how I got it finally working ...

Though, I was surprised not to find the lilypond-git-repo. Did I
overlook somthing?
Anyway I cloned it manually.

Compiling LilyPond with ../configure --enable-guile2 returns:
[...]
WARNING: Please consider installing optional programs or files:  URW++
OTF fonts (download OTF files from
'http://git.ghostscript.com/?p=urw-core35-fonts.git;a=commit;h=79bcdfb34fbce12b592cce389fa7a19da6b5b018'
and put them under '~/.local/share/fonts' etc., or use
--with-urwotf-dir) extractpdfmark (Optionally using Ghostscript >=
9.20 together with Extract PDFmark can significantly reduce the disk
space required for building the documentation and the final PDF
files.)
[...]

May I suggest to include those fonts in next release?


Otherwise it works fine so far, maybe a bit slower than usual. (Not
LilyPond, but the whole thingy.)
Or maybe more memory-consuming (I remember this from earlier versions of VB).



Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il 27 dic 2016 7:08 AM Graham Percival  ha scritto:
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 01:53:06PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: 
> > Eventually I managed to build the new ISO. 
>
> Thanks for all this work!  I get an invalid network mirror when I 
> try to install it.  Do you have a default valid set, or is it 
> failing to connect to the generic Canadian debian server? 
>

The default should be httpredir:
 httpredir.debian.org

Have you tried again? I hope that it's just a temporary network problem.
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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Graham Percival]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 01:53:06PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote:
> Eventually I managed to build the new ISO.

Thanks for all this work!  I get an invalid network mirror when I
try to install it.  Do you have a default valid set, or is it
failing to connect to the generic Canadian debian server?

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

On 12/23/2016 12:00 AM, Federico Bruni wrote:

Il giorno gio 22 dic 2016 alle 18:48, Paul  ha 
scritto:
I gave it a try.  Installation seemed to go fine, but then on booting 
it up I get past the GRUB screen and then it goes to a black 
unresponsive screen at "loading initial ramdisk..."  Haven't had a 
chance to troubleshoot it further.  I'm attaching the log file in 
case anyone wants to take a look.


(I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and Virtual Box version 5.0.24_Ubuntu r108355)  
(I'm using LilyDev on Ubuntu because I'm new to GNU/Linux and already 
familiar with LilyDev.)


Hi Paul

In the log I see this line:

00:00:00.447635   PAE - Physical Address 
Extension   = 0 (0)


which makes me think that you've not enabled PAE?
There's a warning in the CG about this:


Hi Federico, I double-checked and I do/did have the box checked to 
enable PAE.  I tried un-checking it and Virtual Box complained about it 
right away upon starting up the VM.


So when I get a chance I may try James' approach of using a newer 
version of Virtual Box, or else your approach with libvirt.  (No time at 
the moment though...)


Thanks,
-Paul

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

On 12/22/2016 01:37 PM, James wrote:
I also tried to install LilyDev 5.0 last week - I use Ubuntu 16.0.4 
with the latest 64 bit vBox 5.1.x test build (112223 w Ext pack 112433).


Hi James,  Thanks for the info and tips.  I may try your approach with a 
newer version of Virtual Box when I get a chance.


Cheers,
-Paul



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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 22 dic 2016 alle 18:48, Paul  ha 
scritto:
I gave it a try.  Installation seemed to go fine, but then on booting 
it up I get past the GRUB screen and then it goes to a black 
unresponsive screen at "loading initial ramdisk..."  Haven't had a 
chance to troubleshoot it further.  I'm attaching the log file in 
case anyone wants to take a look.


(I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and Virtual Box version 5.0.24_Ubuntu r108355)  
(I'm using LilyDev on Ubuntu because I'm new to GNU/Linux and already 
familiar with LilyDev.)


Hi Paul

In the log I see this line:

00:00:00.447635   PAE - Physical Address Extension  
 = 0 (0)


which makes me think that you've not enabled PAE?
There's a warning in the CG about this:

The image contains a ‘686-pae’ kernel, so you must enable PAE 
within the virtual machine’s settings – click on System → 
Processor and select ‘Extended features: Enable PAE/NX’.


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/lilydev#installing-lilydev-in-virtualbox

I remember that Virtual Box used to shout if PAE was not enabled. But 
the last time I checked it was some time ago.


Let me know if this helps.
Otherwise I may suggest another virtualization system, libvirt, that I 
use and know better than Virtual Box.



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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[James]

Hello Paul


On 22/12/16 17:48, Paul wrote:

Hi Federico,

Thanks and congrats on the new release!

I gave it a try.  Installation seemed to go fine, but then on booting 
it up I get past the GRUB screen and then it goes to a black 
unresponsive screen at "loading initial ramdisk..."  Haven't had a 
chance to troubleshoot it further.  I'm attaching the log file in case 
anyone wants to take a look.


(I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and Virtual Box version 5.0.24_Ubuntu r108355)  
(I'm using LilyDev on Ubuntu because I'm new to GNU/Linux and already 
familiar with LilyDev.)


Cheers,
-Paul



I also tried to install LilyDev 5.0 last week - I use Ubuntu 16.0.4 with 
the latest 64 bit vBox 5.1.x test build (112223 w Ext pack 112433).


https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds

(I have been using it for the last week or so without any problems for 
my 'work' VM it's very stable and fixed some annoying clipboard issues I 
was having with the one in the repos).


If you want to give it a go in case it is the repo version that is at 
fault - which is a bit behind the current stable release even.


1. Uninstall the vBox package from the Software Repo (I assume you 
apt-get installed it? So apt-get remove it).


2. Download the 'Linux 64 bit' version of the 5.1.x build. with the 
Extension Pack.


3. You will need to chmod +x the Installer.

4. Then run the exe as root (sudo ./VirtualBox_5...) and it will install 
all the bits and bobs for you.


5. Start the Virtual Box UI and then apply the extension pack via the 
'files/preferences -> Extensions' part of the UI.


I don't use any special settings other than 3 or 4 CPUs, disable sound 
and enable PAE for my Hardware.



I have not had the same problems as your self and it boots very quick.

I know that doesn't help you diagnose your issue, but as a second point 
of reference, albeit with a newer version of Virtual Box it seems to 
work for me.


James

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Re: LilyDev 5.0 released

[Paul]

Hi Federico,

Thanks and congrats on the new release!

I gave it a try.  Installation seemed to go fine, but then on booting it 
up I get past the GRUB screen and then it goes to a black unresponsive 
screen at "loading initial ramdisk..."  Haven't had a chance to 
troubleshoot it further.  I'm attaching the log file in case anyone 
wants to take a look.


(I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and Virtual Box version 5.0.24_Ubuntu r108355)  
(I'm using LilyDev on Ubuntu because I'm new to GNU/Linux and already 
familiar with LilyDev.)


Cheers,
-Paul


VirtualBox VM 5.0.24_Ubuntu r108355 linux.amd64 (Jul  5 2016 08:17:21) release log
00:00:00.255348 Log opened 2016-12-22T17:42:07.876411000Z
00:00:00.255350 Build Type: release
00:00:00.255352 OS Product: Linux
00:00:00.255353 OS Release: 4.4.0-57-generic
00:00:00.255354 OS Version: #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 9 23:50:32 UTC 2016
00:00:00.255369 DMI Product Name: 20AQ005QUS
00:00:00.255373 DMI Product Version: ThinkPad T440s
00:00:00.255405 Host RAM: 7673MB total, 4419MB available
00:00:00.255408 Executable: /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox
00:00:00.255408 Process ID: 4534
00:00:00.255409 Package type: LINUX_64BITS_GENERIC (OSE)
00:00:00.259714 Installed Extension Packs:
00:00:00.259731   VNC (Version: 5.0.24 r108355; VRDE Module: VBoxVNC)
00:00:00.260408 Console: Machine state changed to 'Starting'
00:00:00.264780 GUI: UIMediumEnumerator: Medium-enumeration finished!
00:00:00.265173 Using XKB for keycode to scan code conversion
00:00:00.267600 SUP: Loaded VMMR0.r0 (/usr/lib/virtualbox/VMMR0.r0) at 0xc0b06020 - ModuleInit at c0b26d70 and ModuleTerm at c0b27260
00:00:00.267630 SUP: VMMR0EntryEx located at c0b2a940 and VMMR0EntryFast at c0b29fb0
00:00:00.295495 Guest OS type: 'Debian'
00:00:00.339378 File system of '/home/paul/VirtualBox VMs/LilyDev5Box/Snapshots' (snapshots) is unknown
00:00:00.339391 File system of '/home/paul/VirtualBox VMs/LilyDev5Box/LilyDev5Box.vdi' is ext4
00:00:00.355544 Shared clipboard service loaded
00:00:00.33 Shared clipboard mode: Off
00:00:00.356381 Drag and drop service loaded
00:00:00.356390 Drag and drop mode: Off
00:00:00.358443 Guest Control service loaded
00:00:00.359993 * CFGM dump *
00:00:00.360001 [/] (level 0)
00:00:00.360017   CSAMEnabled= 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360023   CpuExecutionCap= 0x0064 (100)
00:00:00.360025   EnablePAE  = 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360027   HMEnabled  = 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360029   MemBalloonSize = 0x (0)
00:00:00.360030   Name= "LilyDev5Box" (cb=12)
00:00:00.360033   NumCPUs= 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360034   PATMEnabled= 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360036   PageFusionAllowed  = 0x (0)
00:00:00.360038   RamHoleSize= 0x2000 (536 870 912, 512 MB)
00:00:00.360040   RamSize= 0xbdb0 (3 182 428 160, 2 GB)
00:00:00.360043   RawR0Enabled   = 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360044   RawR3Enabled   = 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360046   TimerMillies   = 0x000a (10)
00:00:00.360048   UUID = "de 48 55 bd 25 37 cf 4a b4 15 ca 1f 6f 40 c8 6f" (cb=16)
00:00:00.360054 
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00:00:00.360060   PortableCpuIdLevel  = 0x (0)
00:00:00.360061 
00:00:00.360066 [/DBGF/] (level 1)
00:00:00.360068   Path   = "/home/paul/VirtualBox VMs/LilyDev5Box/debug/;/home/paul/VirtualBox VMs/LilyDev5Box/;/home/paul/" (cb=96)
00:00:00.360070 
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00:00:00.360072 [/Devices/8237A/] (level 2)
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00:00:00.360075 [/Devices/8237A/0/] (level 3)
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00:00:00.360078 
00:00:00.360079 [/Devices/GIMDev/] (level 2)
00:00:00.360080 
00:00:00.360081 [/Devices/GIMDev/0/] (level 3)
00:00:00.360083   Trusted  = 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360084 
00:00:00.360085 [/Devices/VMMDev/] (level 2)
00:00:00.360086 
00:00:00.360087 [/Devices/VMMDev/0/] (level 3)
00:00:00.360089   PCIBusNo   = 0x (0)
00:00:00.360090   PCIDeviceNo= 0x0004 (4)
00:00:00.360091   PCIFunctionNo  = 0x (0)
00:00:00.360093   Trusted= 0x0001 (1)
00:00:00.360094 
00:00:00.360095 [/Devices/VMMDev/0/Config/] (level 4)
00:00:00.360097   GuestCoreDumpDir   = "/home/paul/VirtualBox VMs/LilyDev5Box/Snapshots" (cb=48)
00:00:00.360098   RamSize   = 0xbdb0 (3 182 428 160, 2 GB)
00:00:00.360100 
00:00:00.360101 [/Devices/VMMDev/0/LUN#0/] (level 4)
00:00:00.360103   Driver   = "HGCM" (cb=5)
00:00:00.360104 
00:00:00.360105 [/Devices/VMMDev/0/LUN#0/Config/] (level 5)
00:00:00.360107   Object  = 0x7fbb6c000910 (140 442 947 553 552)
00:00:00.360109 
00:00:00.360109 [/Devices/VMMDev/0/LUN#999/] (level 4)
00:00:00.360111   Driver   = "MainStatus" 

LilyDev 5.0 released

[Federico Bruni]

Hi all

Eventually I managed to build the new ISO.
I decided to upgrade to Stretch (still in testing), because otherwise I 
had problems with pinning guile-2.0 from testing. Another advantage is 
that in Stretch there's also LxQT (successor of LXDE), which seems 
lightweight, fast and feature-rich.


You can donwload the image here:
https://github.com/fedelibre/LilyDev/releases/tag/v5.0

Let me know if you find any problem.


Notable changes:

- upgrade to Debian 9 Stretch and live-build 5
- switch to [LXQt](http://lxqt.org/), successor of LXDE
- upgrade to guile-2
- update some lilypond build dependencies
- added samba support: now you can share files between host and guest 
just by using in the file manager a link like `smb://10.0.20.10/` 
(replace it with your local IP); bookmark the link and it will be 
always available under Places.


Let me know if you need any guidance with Samba shares, in case you 
prefer using libvirt instead of VirtualBox.





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