Re: LilyPond releases and GLISS roadmap

2011-07-23 Thread Jan Warchoł
+1 everything
+1 Graham in general :)

cheers,
Janek

2011/7/23 Graham Percival :
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:49:40AM +0200, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
>> Is there a roadmap of future releases of LilyPond (2.16, 2.18, 3.0),
>
> That discussion will happen in GOP:
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/policy-decisions
>
>> as well as a roadmap for the GLISS available somewhere on the LilyPond
>> website?
>
> That is not yet written.
>
>> Actually there has been a request on the French users mailing list that
>> is actually issue #1316, which is currently "Priority-Postponed" waiting
>> for the GLISS.
>
> It will wait some more.
>
>> On CG 14.5 "Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Standardization (GLISS)" it is
>> said that
>>
>>   [GLISS will start] sortly after 2.14 comes out, which is currently
>>   estimated to happen in January 2011.
>
> I suppose I should change that.
>
>> Where could we find up-to-date information about future LilyPond
>> releases and "Grand Projects" roadmaps?
>
> You can't.
>
> I do 10 hours a week.  I'm not going to start GLISS until I have
> at least 4 weeks of GOP policy questions prepared for discussion,
> and at least 2 weeks of GLISS material prepared.  The more
> "mundane tasks" people do, the more time I'll have for "unusual"
> stuff like GOP and GLISS.
>
> Admittedly, Colin and James are doing a fantastic job of keeping
> patches rolling along for the past few weeks.  I've fallen behind
> because I'm at the annual family music camp.
>  http://wcams.com/
> which we do a lot of organizing for, in addition to attending for
> about 20 years now (I missed 2 years in that period, so I'm only
> at 18 years so far).
>
> This year, I'm skipping the main orchestra in order to keep
> up-to-date with lilypond emails (much to the disgust of some other
> violinists here who feel that I'm "letting down the team" by not
> playing in the orchestra).  So I still have 10 hours left this
> week, and that will carry over into next week.
>
> With that extra time, I hope to schedule GOP stuff for all of
> August and even reaching into Sep.  Once that's done, I'll do more
> preparation for GLISS, but I would be surprised if we start that
> in August.  Depends a lot of how many release issues there are for
> 2.16.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham

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Re: LilyPond releases and GLISS roadmap

2011-07-23 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 23 July 2011 01:53, Graham Percival  wrote:
>
> You can't.
>
> I do 10 hours a week.  I'm not going to start GLISS until I have
> at least 4 weeks of GOP policy questions prepared for discussion,
> and at least 2 weeks of GLISS material prepared.  The more
> "mundane tasks" people do, the more time I'll have for "unusual"
> stuff like GOP and GLISS.
>
> Admittedly, Colin and James are doing a fantastic job of keeping
> patches rolling along for the past few weeks.  I've fallen behind
> because I'm at the annual family music camp.
>  http://wcams.com/
> which we do a lot of organizing for, in addition to attending for
> about 20 years now (I missed 2 years in that period, so I'm only
> at 18 years so far).
>
> This year, I'm skipping the main orchestra in order to keep
> up-to-date with lilypond emails (much to the disgust of some other
> violinists here who feel that I'm "letting down the team" by not
> playing in the orchestra).  So I still have 10 hours left this
> week, and that will carry over into next week.
>
> With that extra time, I hope to schedule GOP stuff for all of
> August and even reaching into Sep.  Once that's done, I'll do more
> preparation for GLISS, but I would be surprised if we start that
> in August.  Depends a lot of how many release issues there are for
> 2.16.

Thanks for the answer.
Thanks for your work.

And have a nice family music camp!

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: LilyPond releases and GLISS roadmap

2011-07-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:49:40AM +0200, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
> Is there a roadmap of future releases of LilyPond (2.16, 2.18, 3.0),

That discussion will happen in GOP:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/policy-decisions

> as well as a roadmap for the GLISS available somewhere on the LilyPond
> website?

That is not yet written.

> Actually there has been a request on the French users mailing list that
> is actually issue #1316, which is currently "Priority-Postponed" waiting
> for the GLISS.

It will wait some more.

> On CG 14.5 "Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Standardization (GLISS)" it is
> said that
> 
>   [GLISS will start] sortly after 2.14 comes out, which is currently
>   estimated to happen in January 2011.

I suppose I should change that.

> Where could we find up-to-date information about future LilyPond
> releases and "Grand Projects" roadmaps?

You can't.

I do 10 hours a week.  I'm not going to start GLISS until I have
at least 4 weeks of GOP policy questions prepared for discussion,
and at least 2 weeks of GLISS material prepared.  The more
"mundane tasks" people do, the more time I'll have for "unusual"
stuff like GOP and GLISS.

Admittedly, Colin and James are doing a fantastic job of keeping
patches rolling along for the past few weeks.  I've fallen behind
because I'm at the annual family music camp.
  http://wcams.com/
which we do a lot of organizing for, in addition to attending for
about 20 years now (I missed 2 years in that period, so I'm only
at 18 years so far).

This year, I'm skipping the main orchestra in order to keep
up-to-date with lilypond emails (much to the disgust of some other
violinists here who feel that I'm "letting down the team" by not
playing in the orchestra).  So I still have 10 hours left this
week, and that will carry over into next week.

With that extra time, I hope to schedule GOP stuff for all of
August and even reaching into Sep.  Once that's done, I'll do more
preparation for GLISS, but I would be surprised if we start that
in August.  Depends a lot of how many release issues there are for
2.16.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: LilyPond releases and GLISS roadmap

2011-07-22 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
>  [GLISS will start] sortly after 2.14 comes out, which is currently
>  estimated to happen in January 2011.
>
> sic!

I may be mistaken, but I believe that GOP takes precedence over GLISS;
as far as roadmaps go, you can try this one on for size:
http://lilypond.org/~graham/gop/index.html

Cheers,
Valentin.

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LilyPond releases and GLISS roadmap

2011-07-22 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 22 July 2011 05:47, Graham Percival  wrote:
>
> Yes, add "backport" to a google tracker issue about it.  But I
> think you just missed the deadline for 2.14.3, and I'm not certain
> if we'll have any more 2.14 releases.  First 2.16 release
> candidate is in 10 days.

Hi Graham,

Is there a roadmap of future releases of LilyPond (2.16, 2.18, 3.0),
as well as a roadmap for the GLISS available somewhere on the LilyPond
website?

Actually there has been a request on the French users mailing list that
is actually issue #1316, which is currently "Priority-Postponed" waiting
for the GLISS.

On CG 14.5 "Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Standardization (GLISS)" it is
said that

  [GLISS will start] sortly after 2.14 comes out, which is currently
  estimated to happen in January 2011.

sic!

Where could we find up-to-date information about future LilyPond
releases and "Grand Projects" roadmaps?

Cheers,
Xavier

-- 
Xavier Scheuer 

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