Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 10:41:21PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
 What I would like to have is some kind of area tag. While going through some 
 bug reports, I notice that many old reports are dealing slurs or with ties. 
 It 
 would make sense to add something like
 Area-Ties
 Area-Slurs

I believe that Foo-bar conflicts with Foo-baz.  I think that
regular tags would be enough, if we wanted to do this.

 This would allow us to show only those bugs that belong to a given area, like 
 all bugs related to lilypond-book.
 
 Currently, we have some tags (markup, midi, grace, website), but there is no 
 real system to those tags.

That is true.  I'm not certain if it's worth trying to make (and
implement) a real system to these tags, though; that's a lot
more effort than we're currently thinking of doing on the issues.
And I still have some hope that James will return to documentation
work at some point, just so that we can have at least one person
doing docs!

But if you (or anybody) want to make an official list of tags, I'm
certainly willing to discuss it.  I don't think these tags should
duplicate the existing Type- labels, though, so
area-documentation should not appear in the list.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/8 Peekay Ex pkx1...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 I've had a brief conversation with Graham who agreed in principle and
 asked me to send a mail to dev regarding 'going through' and 'cleaning
 up' old tracker issues.

that's very nice of you!

 So I am running this pass the 'dev'
 group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
 could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc)

I think Graham said everything that could come to my mind.

cheers,
Janek

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-09 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Friday, 9. September 2011, 22:06:07 schrieb Janek Warchoł:
  So I am running this pass the 'dev'
  group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
  could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc)
 
 I think Graham said everything that could come to my mind.

What I would like to have is some kind of area tag. While going through some 
bug reports, I notice that many old reports are dealing slurs or with ties. It 
would make sense to add something like
Area-Ties
Area-Slurs
Area-LilypondBook
Area-MusicXML
Area-Gregorian
Area-Tuplets
Area-Documentation
Area-Lyrics
Area-PageLayout
Area-Libraries (for external libs like pango, guile, etc.)
Area-Dynamics
Area-Webpage
Area-Installer
Area-GUIs (or Area-Editors)
Area-PartCombine
Area-Font
Area-SVG
...

This would allow us to show only those bugs that belong to a given area, like 
all bugs related to lilypond-book.

Currently, we have some tags (markup, midi, grace, website), but there is no 
real system to those tags.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/9/9 Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com:
 Am Friday, 9. September 2011, 22:06:07 schrieb Janek Warchoł:
  So I am running this pass the 'dev'
  group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
  could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc)

 I think Graham said everything that could come to my mind.

 What I would like to have is some kind of area tag. While going through some
 bug reports, I notice that many old reports are dealing slurs or with ties. It
 would make sense to add something like
 Area-Ties
 Area-Slurs
 Area-LilypondBook
 Area-MusicXML
 Area-Gregorian
 Area-Tuplets
 Area-Documentation
 Area-Lyrics
 Area-PageLayout
 Area-Libraries (for external libs like pango, guile, etc.)
 Area-Dynamics
 Area-Webpage
 Area-Installer
 Area-GUIs (or Area-Editors)
 Area-PartCombine
 Area-Font
 Area-SVG
 ...

 This would allow us to show only those bugs that belong to a given area, like
 all bugs related to lilypond-book.

 Currently, we have some tags (markup, midi, grace, website), but there is no
 real system to those tags.

Maybe...  At least it would be good to make sure that the summary of
the issue contains the key words (and that the key words are used
consistently, for example choose tie or ties, do not use both).

cheers,
Janek

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Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Peekay Ex
Hello,

I've had a brief conversation with Graham who agreed in principle and
asked me to send a mail to dev regarding 'going through' and 'cleaning
up' old tracker issues.

At the moment we have 580-something tracker issues of which some
haven't been 'touched' for a very long time, there are also items with
'owners' who no longer actively (as far as I can tell) work on
LilyPond anymore.

My intention at first is to

1) Remove erroneous 'Owner' and 'Status' labels (and CC if appropriate).

and

2) For those 'issues' that I understand see if the issue still applies
to the current (un)stable release (e.g. Glyph X collides with Glyph Y
when I x in version 2.really.old)

However this will probably generate a fair few auto-emails and I don't
want to step on anyone else's toes such as other tracker-sniffers
(Messrs Campbell and O. Redchuk). So I am running this pass the 'dev'
group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc) or disagreements
and this would be a bad idea.

Thanks.

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 However this will probably generate a fair few auto-emails and I
 don't want to step on anyone else's toes such as other
 tracker-sniffers (Messrs Campbell and O. Redchuk).  So I am running
 this pass the 'dev' group for any other additional suggestions (such
 as other labels I could remove/apply, how far forward I should go
 etc) or disagreements and this would be a bad idea.

There's already a large amount of `confirmed' tracker messages sent to
the list, so I think we can suffer a few more :-)


Werner

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi James (or is it Peekay now! ;)

I've had a brief conversation with Graham who agreed in principle 
and
asked me to send a mail to dev regarding 'going through' and 
'cleaning

up' old tracker issues.


Good idea!

However this will probably generate a fair few auto-emails and I 
don't

want to step on anyone else's toes such as other tracker-sniffers
(Messrs Campbell and O. Redchuk). So I am running this pass the 
'dev'

group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc) or 
disagreements

and this would be a bad idea.


A couple of comments:

Try to do all changes to an issue at once so
we get only one email per issue.

Limit yourself to, say, 20 a day, or it will
be bad for our healths.

Trevor



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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:25:25AM +0100, Peekay Ex wrote:
 
 1) Remove erroneous 'Owner' and 'Status' labels (and CC if appropriate).

The status should almost always be Accepted.  If the Owner is me
or Valentin, that should be removed (it was an artifact of an old
system) unless the issue has a patch by either of us or it is
marked as Status-started.

 2) For those 'issues' that I understand see if the issue still applies
 to the current (un)stable release (e.g. Glyph X collides with Glyph Y
 when I x in version 2.really.old)

Yes.  Please add bug still in 2.15.10 in those cases.  If the
graphical output has changed, also add a png.
Dmytro has a very nice script that produces better pngs -- some of
the old reports have a pdf; please replace that with a png.


3) carefully consider the 'Type' label.  (the CG page on issue
clarification needs revision, but the GOP-PROP on issues
priorities is correct.  I hope to fix the CG later today)
Most notably, somewhere between 20% - 60% of type-defect issues
should be type-ugly now.

4) remove the Priority label

5) to avoid fatigue, both on your part and the part of people
reading bug-lilypond, I'd suggest no more than 10 issues each day.
Yes, it'll take two months to go through the entire list, but
there's no particular urgency for this.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 08 Sep 2011, 09:53 Graham Percival wrote:
 Yes.  Please add bug still in 2.15.10 in those cases.  If the
 graphical output has changed, also add a png.
 Dmytro has a very nice script that produces better pngs -- some of
 the old reports have a pdf; please replace that with a png.
Dmytro?-)

Here is it:
https://raw.github.com/gperciva/lilypond-extra/master/bug-squad/trimtagline.sh
https://raw.github.com/gperciva/lilypond-extra/master/bug-squad/trimtagline.bat

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Re: Offer to clean up (very) old Tracker issues

2011-09-08 Thread Colin Campbell

On 11-09-08 01:25 AM, Peekay Ex wrote:

Hello,

I've had a brief conversation with Graham who agreed in principle and
asked me to send a mail to dev regarding 'going through' and 'cleaning
up' old tracker issues.

At the moment we have 580-something tracker issues of which some
haven't been 'touched' for a very long time, there are also items with
'owners' who no longer actively (as far as I can tell) work on
LilyPond anymore.

My intention at first is to

1) Remove erroneous 'Owner' and 'Status' labels (and CC if appropriate).

and

2) For those 'issues' that I understand see if the issue still applies
to the current (un)stable release (e.g. Glyph X collides with Glyph Y
when I x in version 2.really.old)

However this will probably generate a fair few auto-emails and I don't
want to step on anyone else's toes such as other tracker-sniffers
(Messrs Campbell and O. Redchuk). So I am running this pass the 'dev'
group for any other additional suggestions (such as other labels I
could remove/apply, how far forward I should go etc) or disagreements
and this would be a bad idea.

Thanks.



Good man yourself, Peekay!  That backlog had been weighing a bit on my 
mind, too.  Perhaps Abandoned should mean Closed.  BTW, you look 
rather familiar; any relation to the Exes in the Lowe Country?


Cheers,
Colin

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