Re: Lilypond build: version
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 09:03 , Masamichi HOSODA wrote: >> >> darwin-x86: >> Untested >> My Intel Mac environment was quite a temporary. >> Now, I don't have it. > > It runs without crashing on 10.10.2. Thank you for reporting. I'm happy to hear it. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
On Mar 2, 2015, at 09:03 , Masamichi HOSODA wrote: > > darwin-x86: > Untested > My Intel Mac environment was quite a temporary. > Now, I don't have it. It runs without crashing on 10.10.2. — Dan ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
> Upload is now proceeding. Takes about 5 hours and slows internet > access for the house to a crawl :-( Thank you for uploading official binaries. I've tested the binaries in my environments. The results are as follows. linux-x86: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 (with 32bit libs) Fine linux-64: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64 Fine linux-ppc: Debian wheezy PowerPC (on qemu-system-ppc on Windows 8.1) Fine freebsd-x86: FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE i386 (with compat libs) Fine freebsd-64: FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE amd64 (with compat libs) Fine mingw (Windows): Windows 8.1 64bit Fine And, this issue http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=431 has been fixed. Because GUB's binutils has been updated to 2.25. darwin-x86: Untested My Intel Mac environment was quite a temporary. Now, I don't have it. darwin-ppc: Untested I couldn't prepare PowerPC Mac. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
Keith OHara writes: > Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: > >> I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday > > That's very good news. > I was beginning to worry. Well, it's been 5 months. It's clear that our current maintainership of GUB is not working out. Basically the model is "Phil is running it, so let him keep it running". Now it's a great testament to GUB's qualities that after initial setup it kept churning out releases for years without anybody knowing all too much what they were doing. It's great that Masamichi Hosoda turned up and made the necessary changes to GUB and then helped Phil along, but we need to get GUB a bit more unstuck than it currently is. I'll be moving its development to Savannah soonish and will try getting it some traction as a general GNU endeavor: after all, most projects delivering Windows executables go through a lot more pain than we do: the Windows ports of Git, Mingw, and a number of others are multi-person efforts usually trailing significantly behind the "native" compilations, and they require a lot more know-how and work to produce than ours as long as GUB is in working state. And the GUB problems we were having just now were not at all LilyPond related: with a generally maintained GUB, all of the required work (namely updating g++) would likely have been done by someone else by the time we needed it. > Thanks for taking the time to work through the problems. A lot of those thanks belong to Masamichi Hosoda. For me, Phil's most admirable accomplishment is not setting fire to the pile basically dropped at his feet but sticking around until help arrived for untangling it. Stuff like that is quite mentally draining and unthankful. I was elated about the improving news, and I also was elated that when I finally saw that the upload had succeeded, I noticed at the same time already about a dozen issues getting verified as fixed and closed. We are still operative! -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: > I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday That's very good news. I was beginning to worry. Thanks for taking the time to work through the problems. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Lilypond build: version "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Lilypond build: version Phil Holmes writes: I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday (it took 5 hours on my superfast machine). Sounds about par for the course. When it's running right, it should be about an hour, so I hope this is just a start-up with lots of changes time. Good luck and success finding the culprit for the upload problem! History repeating itself: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-08/msg00717.html Upload is now proceeding. Takes about 5 hours and slows internet access for the house to a crawl :-( Try finding a way to throttle the upload rate at about 90% of your upload capacity (some environment variables for the upload program perhaps? Or some parameters one can set in the VM or VM kernel?). "Internet access" is almost exclusively download capacity, so the main reason the "internet access for the house" is at a crawl is that the upload-direction parts of the communication required for downloading take too long to get through even though they take up very little bandwidth. If you manage to throttle the upload rate just a bit, the upload will not take much longer while the "internet access for the house" will become unstuck for typical use cases. -- David Kastrup I did look at throttling the upload speed when I first started running the build, but failed. I realise it's the TCP ACKs that are slowing download speeds. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: "Phil Holmes" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: Lilypond build: version > > >> Phil Holmes writes: >> >>> I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday (it took 5 hours on my >>> superfast machine). >> >> Sounds about par for the course. > > When it's running right, it should be about an hour, so I hope this is > just a start-up with lots of changes time. > > >> Good luck and success finding the culprit for the upload problem! > > History repeating itself: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-08/msg00717.html > > Upload is now proceeding. Takes about 5 hours and slows internet > access for the house to a crawl :-( Try finding a way to throttle the upload rate at about 90% of your upload capacity (some environment variables for the upload program perhaps? Or some parameters one can set in the VM or VM kernel?). "Internet access" is almost exclusively download capacity, so the main reason the "internet access for the house" is at a crawl is that the upload-direction parts of the communication required for downloading take too long to get through even though they take up very little bandwidth. If you manage to throttle the upload rate just a bit, the upload will not take much longer while the "internet access for the house" will become unstuck for typical use cases. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Lilypond build: version Phil Holmes writes: I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday (it took 5 hours on my superfast machine). Sounds about par for the course. When it's running right, it should be about an hour, so I hope this is just a start-up with lots of changes time. Good luck and success finding the culprit for the upload problem! History repeating itself: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-08/msg00717.html Upload is now proceeding. Takes about 5 hours and slows internet access for the house to a crawl :-( -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Lilypond build: version
Phil Holmes writes: > I completed a full GUB build of lilypond yesterday (it took 5 hours on my > superfast machine). Sounds about par for the course. > However, at present I can't upload it: I'm investigating but can't > guarantee a solution quickly. I would like to be able to keep the > package I've built available for upload as 2.19.16. I would therefore > like to bump the development version to 2.19.17, even without 2.19.16 > yet available online. If you object, please shout quickly: say in the > next couple of hours. I don't see a problem with that: in the absolutely worst case, we are better off with a missing version (or even a defective one we need to pull for sanity) than with a double one. We are talking about developer releases here after all. Good luck and success finding the culprit for the upload problem! -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
