Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:08:51AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
> Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:52 AM
>
>> That said, I'm not too certain what the distinction is between
>> "keyword" and "command"... and if *I'm* not certain, then we
>> definitely can't assume that the reader knows the difference.  If
>> that difference matters at all in this case.
>
> Graham,  try this:
>
> override = junk
> { a }

Ah, I see.

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- Graham


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Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Trevor Daniels


Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:52 AM



On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:27:18AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:

The description of the contents of the Function index states that it
"lists all the LilyPond
commands and keywords".  \foo is a command and foo is a keyword, so I am
now of
the view that both should appear in the function index.


I don't think that "foo" is a keyword.  I'd say that "\foo" is a
command, and "r" or "c" is a keyword.

That said, I'm not too certain what the distinction is between
"keyword" and "command"... and if *I'm* not certain, then we
definitely can't assume that the reader knows the difference.  If
that difference matters at all in this case.


Graham,  try this:

override = junk
{ a }

Trevor



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Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:27:18AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
> The description of the contents of the Function index states that it 
> "lists all the LilyPond
> commands and keywords".  \foo is a command and foo is a keyword, so I am 
> now of
> the view that both should appear in the function index.

I don't think that "foo" is a keyword.  I'd say that "\foo" is a
command, and "r" or "c" is a keyword.

That said, I'm not too certain what the distinction is between
"keyword" and "command"... and if *I'm* not certain, then we
definitely can't assume that the reader knows the difference.  If
that difference matters at all in this case.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-22 Thread Trevor Daniels

Werner, Patrick

Originally I opposed the @funindex foo form as being both redundant and 
misleading,
but was out-voted (3 to 1).  But on thinking about it again I have changed 
my mind, for

the following reason.

The description of the contents of the Function index states that it "lists 
all the LilyPond
commands and keywords".  \foo is a command and foo is a keyword, so I am now 
of

the view that both should appear in the function index.

Trevor

- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Werner LEMBERG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends



Hi Werner,

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


in the manual I often see both [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
\foo'.
IMHO, one of those forms is redundant.  Which one?  I'll walk over all
such index entries and fix it accordingly, but I ask you to decide
which form is the right one.


I think the [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' form is redundant, since the actual
function/command names always begin with a backslash.  However, I
think it would be acceptable to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' as well as the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \foo'.

-Patrick


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Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:07:29AM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
> in the manual I often see both [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> \foo'.
> IMHO, one of those forms is redundant.  Which one?  I'll walk over all
> such index entries and fix it accordingly, but I ask you to decide
> which form is the right one.

See discussion here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-08/msg00063.html

The answer appears to be "both".  I don't think that's optimal,
but people didn't seem to like the \command style only.  :(

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Re: correct usage of @funindex and friends

2008-11-21 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Werner,

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> in the manual I often see both [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> \foo'.
> IMHO, one of those forms is redundant.  Which one?  I'll walk over all
> such index entries and fix it accordingly, but I ask you to decide
> which form is the right one.

I think the [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' form is redundant, since the actual
function/command names always begin with a backslash.  However, I
think it would be acceptable to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] foo' as well as the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \foo'.

-Patrick


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