Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Here's my final version. Looks great, thanks! My Windows machine won't convert this to SVG. Would someone else like to and to upload the SVG? Hmm. I tried lilypond -dbackend=svg stockhausen.ly and get the error warning: cannot find SVG font #f /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.19.0/scm/output-svg.scm:558:7: In procedure string-null? in expression (string-null? expr): /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.19.0/scm/output-svg.scm:558:7: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting string): #unspecified Is this expected? If yes, can the error message be improved? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
My Windows machine won't convert this to SVG. Would someone else like to and to upload the SVG? Hmm. I tried lilypond -dbackend=svg stockhausen.ly and get the error warning: cannot find SVG font #f BTW, what about creating and installing SVG and WOFF fonts too for the `CenturySchL' family? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: My Windows machine won't convert this to SVG. Would someone else like to and to upload the SVG? Hmm. I tried lilypond -dbackend=svg stockhausen.ly and get the error warning: cannot find SVG font #f BTW, what about creating and installing SVG and WOFF fonts too for the `CenturySchL' family? Werner Here’s a minimal example to get the same effect. \version 2.19.0 { \override Staff.TimeSignature.font-name = New Century Schoolbook a1 } Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Hi, this is another thing, but how about adding a nice standard notation example to the wikipedia entry? (like http://lilypond.org/ly-examples/bach-bwv610.png) This Stockhausen is very impressive if you want to know that you can tweak most everything to your needs. And it is now really close to the original. But to me the more convincing selling point is the good default layout for traditional notation. And I would be a bit scared by this example when searching for a notation program (as it is the only one in the article). My thoughts when I look at the Finale example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Prelude_3_2_Rach.png/500px-Prelude_3_2_Rach.png “Ok. Not perfect but good looking.” Lilypond: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg “Ooh, crazy. But probably not made for my scores.” Best, Joram ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Joram Berger joram.no...@gmx.de schrieb: Hi, this is another thing, but how about adding a nice standard notation example to the wikipedia entry? (like http://lilypond.org/ly-examples/bach-bwv610.png) This Stockhausen is very impressive if you want to know that you can tweak most everything to your needs. And it is now really close to the original. But to me the more convincing selling point is the good default layout for traditional notation. And I would be a bit scared by this example when searching for a notation program (as it is the only one in the article). My thoughts when I look at the Finale example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Prelude_3_2_Rach.png/500px-Prelude_3_2_Rach.png “Ok. Not perfect but good looking.” Lilypond: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg “Ooh, crazy. But probably not made for my scores.” Best, Joram Good points. I suggest adding the first image from lilypon.org's examples page and then add a link to that page. Urs ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel -- Urs Liska openlilylib.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Having spent the time on the Stockhausen, I think it would be a shame not to update the page with the good example. Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. As an _only_ example for LilyPond's capabilities, it seems a bit outlandish. I agree that it's disappointing after you put this amount of work into it and that this should have been considered earlier in the discussion. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Hi, 2014/1/13 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: Here's my final version. Looks very nice, good job! Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Having spent the time on the Stockhausen, I think it would be a shame not to update the page with the good example. Of course that Stockhausen example on Wikipedia should be updated with your work! I think the others suggest to add another example so that there will be 2. 2014/1/13 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. +1 for adding this to our examples. best, Janek ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org; Joram Berger joram.no...@gmx.de; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Having spent the time on the Stockhausen, I think it would be a shame not to update the page with the good example. Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. As an _only_ example for LilyPond's capabilities, it seems a bit outlandish. I agree that it's disappointing after you put this amount of work into it and that this should have been considered earlier in the discussion. I'm not overworried about that - I did it as an exercise. -- David Kastrup Anyway: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3803 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Am 13.01.2014 11:14, schrieb Phil Holmes: - Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org; Joram Berger joram.no...@gmx.de; lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Having spent the time on the Stockhausen, I think it would be a shame not to update the page with the good example. Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. As an _only_ example for LilyPond's capabilities, it seems a bit outlandish. I agree that it's disappointing after you put this amount of work into it and that this should have been considered earlier in the discussion. I'm not overworried about that - I did it as an exercise. _Of course_ I was only talking about _adding_ the Bach example and the link. I will see if I find the time for updating the page, as I obviously speak German well enough ;-) -- David Kastrup Anyway: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3803 -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Am 13.01.2014 10:58, schrieb David Kastrup: Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. I would second this. One question which seems to be more of an issue when we're talking about lilypond.org. Are we positive that we can post this example as fair use (like indicated on the wikipedia page? Urs ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 13.01.2014 10:58, schrieb David Kastrup: Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. I would second this. One question which seems to be more of an issue when we're talking about lilypond.org. Are we positive that we can post this example as fair use (like indicated on the wikipedia page? Ah rats, forgot about that. Not entirely sure. But if the copyright expiration is a hard deal, then we are not going to show _any_ modern examples from most of the 20th century. Perhaps I need to ask the FSF copyright clerk for an opinion. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Am 13.01.2014 11:55, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: Am 13.01.2014 10:58, schrieb David Kastrup: Shouldn't we rather put this up on our own example page, to complement the set there? I think that it would make an excellent addition. I would second this. One question which seems to be more of an issue when we're talking about lilypond.org. Are we positive that we can post this example as fair use (like indicated on the wikipedia page? Ah rats, forgot about that. Not entirely sure. But if the copyright expiration is a hard deal, then we are not going to show _any_ modern examples from most of the 20th century. Perhaps I need to ask the FSF copyright clerk for an opinion. That would be good. It would be really nice to see that on lilypond.org. The original uploader for the wikipedia image assumed it is fair use, and apparently nobody objected against it _so far_. But I wouldn't rely on the copyright owners' generousity in that case. Urs ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Attached are a source version, without the font change for the time sig which crashes SVG creation, and the SVG output. Thanks! Looks great. I've updated the Wikipedia page. Werner PS: Note that this example exhibits a bug in ImageMagick's `display' program (version 6.7.8): All tuplet numbers are far too low. With inkview, everything's just fine. Uh, oh, after uploading I see that Wikipedia apparently uses ImageMagick for conversion :-( How shall we proceed? ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
For me it now looks heavily distorted (wrong aspect ratio) Joram Am 13.01.2014 12:26, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: Attached are a source version, without the font change for the time sig which crashes SVG creation, and the SVG output. Thanks! Looks great. I've updated the Wikipedia page. Werner PS: Note that this example exhibits a bug in ImageMagick's `display' program (version 6.7.8): All tuplet numbers are far too low. With inkview, everything's just fine. Uh, oh, after uploading I see that Wikipedia apparently uses ImageMagick for conversion :-( How shall we proceed? ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
For me it now looks heavily distorted (wrong aspect ratio) Which browser? Have you tried reloading the page? I've checked with Chrome, and everything's OK; it displays the SVG natively on the LilyPond page. However, Firefox 26 under GNU/Linux displays a generated PNG image (does anybody know why? and can I change that?), and for some reasons Wikipedia hasn't (yet?) regenerated the previews from the most recent SVG version.[*] On the other hand, the uncropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/archive/4/4d/20140113112433%21Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg gets displayed fine, while the cropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg (cropping done with Inkscape) exhibits color mistakes in Firefox's SVG handling. Sigh. I thought that displaying SVG images is mature meanwhile. BTW, how can I make Lilypond crop the SVG, similar to EPS output? Werner [*] The metadata of the image is wrong, too. Maybe we have to wait a day or so until it gets regenerated? Otherwise we've hit a second Wikipedia bug within hours... ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Am 13.01.2014 14:04, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: For me it now looks heavily distorted (wrong aspect ratio) Which browser? Firefox 26, Chromium and Konqueror 4.8.5 - also after reload. On the other hand, the uncropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/archive/4/4d/20140113112433%21Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg gets displayed fine, while the cropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg (cropping done with Inkscape) exhibits color mistakes in Firefox's SVG handling. Sigh. I thought that displaying SVG images is mature meanwhile. Yes, it shows more blue objects than the original, no red. The article image links to the uncropped image and shows the corresponding ~A4 aspect ratio. The content however is the cropped one. The article has not changed, the image has. BTW, how can I make Lilypond crop the SVG, similar to EPS output? I only know the setting of the paper dimensions beforehand. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Which browser? Firefox 26, Chromium and Konqueror 4.8.5 - also after reload. Very strange. The article image links to the uncropped image and shows the corresponding ~A4 aspect ratio. ??? Looking at the source code of the `LilyPond' article, I see Screenshot = [[Datei:Klavierstücke (Stockhausen) Nr2-Klavierstück2-Anfang.svg|300px]] in the {{Infobox...}} which always links to the most recent version! Maybe there is a Proxy issue? The content however is the cropped one. The article has not changed, the image has. Yes, and this is fully correct. BTW, how can I make Lilypond crop the SVG, similar to EPS output? I only know the setting of the paper dimensions beforehand. Looks like this should be put on the wishlist... Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
works for me now. Joram ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 01/13/2014 02:30 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Which browser? Firefox 26, Chromium and Konqueror 4.8.5 - also after reload. Very strange. Fine here with Chromium (Debian wheezy, v31.something) and Iceweasel 23, but the cropped image I made (see below) exhibits the blue only-behaviour. Workaround also below. BTW, how can I make Lilypond crop the SVG, similar to EPS output? I only know the setting of the paper dimensions beforehand. Looks like this should be put on the wishlist... (fully?) working version below inkscape --verb=FitCanvasToDrawing --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg does the job, albeit not from LilyPond. Also, IIRC not all browsers can deal with SVG fonts very well - maybe you should convert to paths? That'd be inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FitCanvasToDrawing --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg at the expense of an increase of file size by ~30%. (fully?) working version here This seems to be fine, but no clue why: inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg ./svgclip.py -o cropped.svg file.svg where svgclip.py is here: https://github.com/skagedal/svgclip If text is not rendered to paths first, this moves the tuplet numbers around, but with the Inkscape command first, it works. BTW, I recognized that the SVG contains (local) links to the .ly file; did you remember to disable pointAndClick? Best, Alexander ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 01/13/2014 02:17 PM, Joram Berger wrote: On the other hand, the uncropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/archive/4/4d/20140113112433%21Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg gets displayed fine, while the cropped SVG image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg (cropping done with Inkscape) exhibits color mistakes in Firefox's SVG handling. Sigh. I thought that displaying SVG images is mature meanwhile. Yes, it shows more blue objects than the original, no red. The article image links to the uncropped image and shows the corresponding ~A4 aspect ratio. The content however is the cropped one. The article has not changed, the image has. Note that (at least for me) objects are blue exactly if they have a textedit:///home/wl/stockhausen.ly hyperlink. Could you try to crop the same file, compiled with \pointAndClickOff? Inkscape seems to rewrite the entire document when changing the page margins. I suspect that it removes colors for the a tags, Firefox makes links blue per default, and the color for the noteheads has no priority over that. (Which might be a bug. Or not.) Best, Alexander ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
This seems to be fine, but no clue why: inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg ./svgclip.py -o cropped.svg file.svg where svgclip.py is here: https://github.com/skagedal/svgclip I've followed that and uploaded a new version. BTW, I recognized that the SVG contains (local) links to the .ly file; did you remember to disable pointAndClick? This time I did. :-) Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 01/13/2014 04:16 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: This seems to be fine, but no clue why: inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg ./svgclip.py -o cropped.svg file.svg where svgclip.py is here: https://github.com/skagedal/svgclip I've followed that and uploaded a new version. BTW, I recognized that the SVG contains (local) links to the .ly file; did you remember to disable pointAndClick? This time I did. :-) Excellent. This also solves the blue-notes issue in Firefox for me, even after clipping in Inkscape. So, to summarize for reference: 1.) For cropping, inkscape --verb=FitCanvasToDrawing --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg works, but has some caveats (probably for non-standard-conforming viewers only, including Wikipedia's SVG-to-PNG-converter). 2.a) Firefox in some version(s) draws elements with links in blue if the a tag does not specify another color. 2.b) Since Inkscape's FitCanvas rewrites the entire SVG and drops those (seemingly superfluous) color attributes, you have to use a different route with links: https://github.com/skagedal/svgclip 2.c) svgclip does not handle position of real text properly, hence you have to convert to paths first. inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg ./svgclip.py -o cropped.svg file.svg That's the only universal variant we have for SVGs with links. 3.) Even without links, real text causes funny positions with Wikipedia's PNG thumb renderer [1]. Hence, inkscape --verb=EditSelectAllInAllLayers --verb=ObjectToPath --verb=FitCanvasToDrawing --verb=FileSave --verb=FileClose file.svg should be okay for SVGs with \pointAndClickOff, eliminating the need for an additional tool. Correct? HTH, Alexander [1] Compare https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/archive/4/4d/20140113150856%21Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg/500px-Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg.png with text and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/4/4d/Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg/500px-Klavierst%C3%BCcke_%28Stockhausen%29_Nr2-Klavierst%C3%BCck2-Anfang.svg.png with paths. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Excellent. This also solves the blue-notes issue in Firefox for me, even after clipping in Inkscape. So, to summarize for reference: [...] Correct? It seems so. Thanks a lot for your assistance! Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
Here’s a minimal example to get the same effect. \version 2.19.0 { \override Staff.TimeSignature.font-name = New Century Schoolbook a1 } Thanks. This is now issue #3809. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
- Original Message - From: James To: Werner LEMBERG ; Devel The pedal symbol clashes with the dynamic in bar 3 and there is a clash of a tuplets in the second upper bar with accidentals - which I believe is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3766 Anyway, I have done as much as I can. Attached the before and after files for anyone else who wants to finish this off. James The pedal / dynamic clash in bar 3 is pretty bad: is this a known bug? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
- Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond - Original Message - From: James To: Werner LEMBERG ; Devel The pedal symbol clashes with the dynamic in bar 3 and there is a clash of a tuplets in the second upper bar with accidentals - which I believe is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3766 Anyway, I have done as much as I can. Attached the before and after files for anyone else who wants to finish this off. James The pedal / dynamic clash in bar 3 is pretty bad: is this a known bug? -- Phil Holmes Fairly certain the clash is caused by the crossing music. I'm working on an improved version, closer to the version on youtube. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 1/12/14 8:04 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond Fairly certain the clash is caused by the crossing music. I'm working on an improved version, closer to the version on youtube. Is there any reason not to put the tuplet brackets on the upper staff in bar 2 *below* the staff? It seems to me they would be clearer that way. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 12.01.2014, at 19:31, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu; James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu; James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond - Original Message - From: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu Is there any reason not to put the tuplet brackets on the upper staff in bar 2 *below* the staff? It seems to me they would be clearer that way. Thanks, Carl If the version on YouTube is original (see attachment), then this has the tuplet markings over the staff. It's also got a modern time signature style. Anyone any idea how to do this? -- Phil Holmes Latest version is attached. Needs dotted tuplet brackets, a bit of tidying of positioning, alternative time signature format, move of clef in LH of 2nd bar and I think it's done. Can anyone help with any of these? Dotted tuplet brackets and positions tweaked. Think this is good to go for now? Looks good! Here is a proposal for the positioning of the time signature: \version 2.18.0 \relative c'' { \override Staff.TimeSignature #'font-size = #20 \override Staff.TimeSignature #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -20) \numericTimeSignature c } hth patrick ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
2014/1/12 pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de: On 12.01.2014, at 19:31, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Latest version is attached. Needs dotted tuplet brackets, a bit of tidying of positioning, alternative time signature format, move of clef in LH of 2nd bar and I think it's done. Can anyone help with any of these? Dotted tuplet brackets and positions tweaked. Think this is good to go for now?\ Here is a proposal for the positioning of the time signature: \version 2.18.0 \relative c'' { \override Staff.TimeSignature #'font-size = #20 \override Staff.TimeSignature #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -20) \numericTimeSignature c } Let's not use hard-coded offsets please, they are unlilypondish and will break at first opportunity. Rather, use a Dynamics context with Time sig engraver like this: meter = \new Dynamics \with { \consists Time_signature_engraver } { \override Dynamics.TimeSignature #'font-size = #6 \time 2/8 s4 \time 3/8 s4.*2 \time 4/8 } (and remove Time sig engraver from regular staves) best, J ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond
On 12.01.2014, at 19:31, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu; James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond - Original Message - From: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net To: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu; James pkx1...@gmail.com; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: fixing German's Wikipedia entry of LilyPond - Original Message - From: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu Is there any reason not to put the tuplet brackets on the upper staff in bar 2 *below* the staff? It seems to me they would be clearer that way. Thanks, Carl If the version on YouTube is original (see attachment), then this has the tuplet markings over the staff. It's also got a modern time signature style. Anyone any idea how to do this? -- Phil Holmes Latest version is attached. Needs dotted tuplet brackets, a bit of tidying of positioning, alternative time signature format, move of clef in LH of 2nd bar and I think it's done. Can anyone help with any of these? Dotted tuplet brackets and positions tweaked. Think this is good to go for now? According to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE2cMxY91rU a couple of dynamics are still missing: -) in LH 1st bar there should be one \f above and one below the staff -) in LH 2nd bar there should be a \mf under the e# ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel