Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Andrew Hawryluk wrote: > I think even this simple case might fail if the dots were placed in > the Voice context: > << c''4. \\ b'4. >> Yes, but I would consider this a "mesh". If there is a way to test for that, this situation would not qualify for moving the engraver to the Voice context. - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Andrew Hawryluk writes: > 2009/8/5 John Mandereau : >> dots.ly before >> dots.ly after >> >> collision-mesh.ly before >> collision-mesh.ly after > > I think even this simple case might fail if the dots were placed in > the Voice context: > << c''4. \\ b'4. >> > > In the example that Mark found, the non-aligned notes are certainly > superior, but I'm not sure what rule would determine whether the > alignment is desired for every case. Would it be as simple as 'keep > the dots unaligned unless collisions result' ? I guess this would > require significant surgery to the Dot_column_engraver, no? Likely two engravers, one that does the work per voice, and one that retries and cleans up if the per-voice engraving sucks. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
2009/8/5 John Mandereau : > dots.ly before > dots.ly after > > collision-mesh.ly before > collision-mesh.ly after I think even this simple case might fail if the dots were placed in the Voice context: << c''4. \\ b'4. >> In the example that Mark found, the non-aligned notes are certainly superior, but I'm not sure what rule would determine whether the alignment is desired for every case. Would it be as simple as 'keep the dots unaligned unless collisions result' ? I guess this would require significant surgery to the Dot_column_engraver, no? Andrew <>___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Neil Puttock wrote: > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Okay, so dots.ly looks better and collision-mesh.ly looks worse. So what's the solution? This is probably ridiculous, but if there were some way to test for meshing, so that the Dot_column_engraver would stay in Staff... and in the absence of meshing, the engraver would be moved into Voice? Is there a better way to fix the dots in dots.ly? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 22:13 +0100, Neil Puttock a écrit : > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Indeed :-P dots.ly before dots.ly after collision-mesh.ly before collision-mesh.ly after John <><><><> signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Mark Polesky wrote: > > > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :)> > > Where's that? > > Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? Oh, right. I think I'm going to stop now, since I'm clearly just being stupid. Sorry. - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Mark Polesky wrote: > > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :)> > Where's that? Oh, I see, it's a regression test. How do I run a regression test? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Where's that? http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=input/regression/collision-mesh.ly;h=53b02aa4cbda8e1c8834a72046b980d500a5a975;hb=HEAD ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Neil Puttock wrote: > Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Where's that? - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > I didn't, but unfortunately my system can hardly do anything these > days... If someone else would like to run the regtests with this > change, that would be great. Try running `collision-mesh.ly' to see what happens. :) Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > I'm > > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > > Voice context than in the Staff context. > > I suspect that this will give many collisions (dots on top of > noteheads) when this is combined with polyphonic chords. Did you > runthis through the regtets to see if it breaks things? I didn't, but unfortunately my system can hardly do anything these days... If someone else would like to run the regtests with this change, that would be great. - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Mark Polesky wrote: > On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem > with the Dot_column_engraver. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html > > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. > > Thoughts? I suspect that this will give many collisions (dots on top of noteheads) when this is combined with polyphonic chords. Did you run this through the regtets to see if it breaks things? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Valentin Villenave wrote: > Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation > accordingly (don't forget NEWS), and make sure it doesn't break > anything (esp. wrt regtests)? If you do all of this, I think it should > be safe for you to push the change (if any problem occurs later, it > will be trivial to revert the commit). I've not been able to connect to git via SSH since Saturday, and nothing I've tried has worked. I'd like to take care of that first, but I'm out of ideas. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-08/msg00061.html - Mark ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
2009/8/5 Mark Polesky : > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. Mark, can you make this change on your own, modify the documentation accordingly (don't forget NEWS), and make sure it doesn't break anything (esp. wrt regtests)? If you do all of this, I think it should be safe for you to push the change (if any problem occurs later, it will be trivial to revert the commit). Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
> Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. Good idea. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
Mark Polesky writes: > On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem > with the Dot_column_engraver. > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html > > Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm > thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the > Voice context than in the Staff context. > > Thoughts? Agree. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Should Dot_column_engraver be in Voice instead of Staff?
On the user list, Nick Payne shed light on a potential problem with the Dot_column_engraver. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-08/msg00132.html Looking at an example from Ted Ross (see attached png), I'm thinking that Dot_column_engraver may be better suited in the Voice context than in the Staff context. Thoughts? - Mark <>___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
