Re: balloontext and footnotes - what's the difference?

2011-07-24 Thread Jan WarchoĊ‚
2011/7/24 James Lowe :
> I'm wondering now what the *real* difference between the two are, other than 
> \footnote[Grob] lets you add a footnote to a balloon text - albeit without 
> the 'balloon'.

Perhaps i'm not understanding something, but isn't the primary
difference that with footnotes the explanation of a footnoted music
appears on the bottom of page, while with ballons it appears inside
the score, near the notes?

cheers,
Janek

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Re: balloontext and footnotes - what's the difference?

2011-07-24 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jul 24, 2011, at 7:01 PM, James Lowe wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Sorry to seem to be obsessing about 'footnotes', it's just that when one does 
> start to look at all the nuances of a new function to make clear 
> documentation, one's focus does become a bit tunnel-vision-like.
> 
> Looking at NR 1.7.2 (Balloon Text) and my proposed patch
> 
> http://codereview.appspot.com/4751045/ for Footnotes;
> 
> I'm wondering now what the *real* difference between the two are, other than 
> \footnote[Grob] lets you add a footnote to a balloon text - albeit without 
> the 'balloon'.
> 
> Is this just the same core function with a 'bit of extra' either way - where 
> the intersect is that I get annotated grobs/text  - and the non-intersect 
> parts of this Euler diagram is that one has a balloon around it or one has a 
> footnote attached to it? Now if I can just add \box markup to a 
> \footnote[Grob] then why is this significantly different to balloon text, and 
> if not different shouldn't we be deprecating balloon text or modifying 
> \footnote[Grob] and incoporating them into balloon text from a code point of 
> view?
> 

I would not at all be adverse to deprecating balloons - it is relatively easy 
to do and would require a trivial change around line 238 of system.cc.
What do others think of this?

Cheers,
MS
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balloontext and footnotes - what's the difference?

2011-07-24 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

Sorry to seem to be obsessing about 'footnotes', it's just that when one does 
start to look at all the nuances of a new function to make clear documentation, 
one's focus does become a bit tunnel-vision-like.

Looking at NR 1.7.2 (Balloon Text) and my proposed patch

http://codereview.appspot.com/4751045/ for Footnotes;

I'm wondering now what the *real* difference between the two are, other than 
\footnote[Grob] lets you add a footnote to a balloon text - albeit without the 
'balloon'.

Is this just the same core function with a 'bit of extra' either way - where 
the intersect is that I get annotated grobs/text  - and the non-intersect parts 
of this Euler diagram is that one has a balloon around it or one has a footnote 
attached to it? Now if I can just add \box markup to a \footnote[Grob] then why 
is this significantly different to balloon text, and if not different shouldn't 
we be deprecating balloon text or modifying \footnote[Grob] and incoporating 
them into balloon text from a code point of view?

This is probably a GLISS candidate but I'm starting to feel that either NR 
1.7.2 needs moving to NR 3.x.x (where footnotes are going to be - I forget 
exactly now writing this) or vice versa.

James
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