Re: feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-12 Thread Juergen Reuter

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Graham Percival wrote:


(this'll probably get lost while HWN is away, but anyway...)

From the docs,
A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on the 
right edge of the ending note.


tupletFullLength (boolean)
   If set, the tuplet is printed up to the start of the next note.


Could we have a feature, similar to tupletFullLength, which places the end of 
a hairpin just before the start of the next note?




And a similar thing for TextSpanner would probably fix the \episem, which 
broke at some time during the 2.7 series (see manual Sect. 7.7.7).  It 
seems that, for TextSpanners, the FullLength behavior is now always 
true, while it must be false for the \episem.  Or do I miss something?


Greetings,
Juergen


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Re: feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-12 Thread Geoff Horton
 And a similar thing for TextSpanner would probably fix the \episem, which
 broke at some time during the 2.7 series (see manual Sect. 7.7.7).

I think \episem needs more work anyhow. It should be going in the next
staff space available above the notes, not over the staff. I monkeyed
around with manual placement of  a -_ articulation, but wasn't happy
with that, either.

Geoff


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Re: feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


(this'll probably get lost while HWN is away, but anyway...)

From the docs,
A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on 
the right edge of the ending note.


tupletFullLength (boolean)
If set, the tuplet is printed up to the start of the next note.


Could we have a feature, similar to tupletFullLength, which places 
the end of a hairpin just before the start of the next note?


Silly question: what's the difference between up to and just 
before, i.e. how much before?
This is at least partially related to the bound-padding property, 
though it affects both ends of the hairpin. Maybe the solution is to 
have a separate such property for each end or let the value of the 
bound-padding

property be a pair of values.

  /Mats
  /Mats



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Re: feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-12 Thread Trevor Bača
On 4/12/06, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  (this'll probably get lost while HWN is away, but anyway...)
 
  From the docs,
  A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on
  the right edge of the ending note.
  
  tupletFullLength (boolean)
  If set, the tuplet is printed up to the start of the next note.
  
 
  Could we have a feature, similar to tupletFullLength, which places
  the end of a hairpin just before the start of the next note?

 Silly question: what's the difference between up to and just
 before, i.e. how much before?
 This is at least partially related to the bound-padding property,
 though it affects both ends of the hairpin. Maybe the solution is to
 have a separate such property for each end or let the value of the
 bound-padding
 property be a pair of values.

Agreed that that final distance just before needs to be override-able.
Using tuplet brackets as a guide, it seems like keeping that last bit
of distance constant throughout a score is the goal ... but when you
get backed into a corner it's really nice to be able to shave off a
bit of the distance.

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feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-11 Thread Graham Percival

(this'll probably get lost while HWN is away, but anyway...)

From the docs,
A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on 
the right edge of the ending note.


tupletFullLength (boolean)
If set, the tuplet is printed up to the start of the next note.


Could we have a feature, similar to tupletFullLength, which places the 
end of a hairpin just before the start of the next note?


In addition, could we allow this as valid syntax?
{
  c1\\!
}


Cheers,
- Graham



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Re: feature request: Hairpin.hairpinFullLength

2006-04-11 Thread Trevor Bača
On 4/11/06, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (this'll probably get lost while HWN is away, but anyway...)

  From the docs,
 A hairpin starts at the left edge of the beginning note and ends on
 the right edge of the ending note.
 
 tupletFullLength (boolean)
  If set, the tuplet is printed up to the start of the next note.
 

 Could we have a feature, similar to tupletFullLength, which places the
 end of a hairpin just before the start of the next note?

 In addition, could we allow this as valid syntax?
 {
c1\\!
 }

I'll contribute to the sponsorship.

This seems obviously useful for stuff as widely varied as Brahms and
Ferneyhough.


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