Re: lilydev 2.0
Hello, On 10 December 2011 23:27, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for testing, James. :) Downloading now. My Internet connection is not that fast, so I'll leave it run over night (it's late here) and then have a go at building LP with it tomorrow morning/early afternoon BST. I'll let you know. I've actually installed it in a VM and built LP successfully, now building docs (just 'local-doc' not the whole thing) so far seems to be working great. The new env vars, astyle 2.02.1 and fontforge 20110222 are all in place. Let me know if you encounter anything weird. :) Well... --snip-- james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Downloads$ md5sum ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 b394cb547a558559e21dfdaf702ebe01 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso 4067a00cfe9d8dc501fbeb32ab8f3020 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 --snip-- That's one 'weird' :) The next is that when I install the .iso - it does work so the file is intact even if he md5 doesn't match! - I can see Ubuntu 10.04. Not as I was expecting 11.04 (or whichever 11.x I thought we were planning). So I am 'guessing' that you linked to the wrong file or renamed the wrong file or something, as this looks like the old LilyDev. regards -- -- James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
Hello (again).. On 11 December 2011 11:49, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On 10 December 2011 23:27, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for testing, James. :) Downloading now. My Internet connection is not that fast, so I'll leave it run over night (it's late here) and then have a go at building LP with it tomorrow morning/early afternoon BST. I'll let you know. I've actually installed it in a VM and built LP successfully, now building docs (just 'local-doc' not the whole thing) so far seems to be working great. The new env vars, astyle 2.02.1 and fontforge 20110222 are all in place. Let me know if you encounter anything weird. :) Well... --snip-- james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Downloads$ md5sum ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 b394cb547a558559e21dfdaf702ebe01 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso 4067a00cfe9d8dc501fbeb32ab8f3020 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 --snip-- That's one 'weird' :) No it isn't (doh!)... :) Sorry... (I've just got up! - Need coffee!) Of course it's fine. Sorry Jonathan. The 'content' of the md5 file is b394cb547a558559e21dfdaf702ebe01 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso Which matches, but I am still confused as I was expecting a 11.x version. -- -- James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:49:51AM +, James wrote: --snip-- james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Downloads$ md5sum ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 b394cb547a558559e21dfdaf702ebe01 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso 4067a00cfe9d8dc501fbeb32ab8f3020 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 --snip-- do this: $ md5sum ubuntu*.iso $ more ubutu*.md5 those should match. You don't run md5sum on a *.md5 file. The next is that when I install the .iso - it does work so the file is intact even if he md5 doesn't match! - I can see Ubuntu 10.04. Not as I was expecting 11.04 (or whichever 11.x I thought we were planning). We are using 10.04 again; we're just updating the extra software. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
Hello, On 11 December 2011 11:52, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:49:51AM +, James wrote: --snip-- james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Downloads$ md5sum ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 b394cb547a558559e21dfdaf702ebe01 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso 4067a00cfe9d8dc501fbeb32ab8f3020 ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 --snip-- do this: $ md5sum ubuntu*.iso $ more ubutu*.md5 those should match. You don't run md5sum on a *.md5 file. :) Yes I realised what I had done. The next is that when I install the .iso - it does work so the file is intact even if he md5 doesn't match! - I can see Ubuntu 10.04. Not as I was expecting 11.04 (or whichever 11.x I thought we were planning). We are using 10.04 again; we're just updating the extra software. Ah ok. I'll do a full make / make doc now. Thanks James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: was expecting 11.04 (or whichever 11.x I thought we were planning). We are using 10.04 again; we're just updating the extra software. Yes this is because 10.04 is a long-term support release. Next LTS is 12.04, coming out this spring. Ah ok. I'll do a full make / make doc now. It worked in a VM for me, hopefully it will for you too. One mistake I found is that the desktop launcher for the CG links to the 2.13 version instead of 2.15 (*facepalm*). Forgot about that. I can fix and make a new image. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 06:16:54AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: It worked in a VM for me, hopefully it will for you too. One mistake I found is that the desktop launcher for the CG links to the 2.13 version instead of 2.15 (*facepalm*). Forgot about that. I can fix and make a new image. hold on a bit, let's see what else needs to be done. Besides, maybe it would be best to link to http://lilypond.org/development.html or even have a dedicated http://lilypond.org/cg redirect that always went to the latest contributor's guide. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
Jonathan, Graham et al. On 11 December 2011 12:16, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: was expecting 11.04 (or whichever 11.x I thought we were planning). We are using 10.04 again; we're just updating the extra software. Yes this is because 10.04 is a long-term support release. Next LTS is 12.04, coming out this spring. Ah ok. I'll do a full make / make doc now. It worked in a VM for me, hopefully it will for you too. One mistake I found is that the desktop launcher for the CG links to the 2.13 version instead of 2.15 (*facepalm*). Forgot about that. I can fix and make a new image. Well I followed the steps of the 2.15.whatever_version_website_is and had no problems at all. Some observations 1. Only 'master' is checked out with LilyGit.tcl currently 2. Versions that are explicitly listed for the various components are below. The full output of ../configure is attached, however as I know lots of the other devs compile on their own systems the versions we use for LilyDev might be older and could be updated or perhaps someone has specific knowledge of problems with these versions that we could update? --snip-- checking python version... 2.6.5 ... checking g++ version... 4.4.3 ... checking bison version... 2.4.1 ... checking guile-config version... 1.8.7 ... checking /usr/bin/gs version... 8.71 ... checking /usr/local/bin/fontforge version... 20110222 ... checking pkg-config version... 0.22 ... checking for pangoft2 = 1.6.0... yes ... checking for fontconfig = 2.4.0... yes ... checking makeinfo version... 4.13 ... checking texi2html version... 1.82 --snip-- Otherwise all seems to work fine. Thank you Jonathan! -- -- James checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking Package... LILYPOND checking builddir... /home/james/lilypond-git/build checking for stepmake... ../stepmake (${datarootdir}/stepmake not found) checking for gmake... no checking for make... make checking for find... find checking for tar... tar checking for bash... /bin/bash checking for python... python checking python version... 2.6.5 checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking whether compiler understands -pipe... yes checking for IEEE-conformance compiler flags... none checking for fc-list... fc-list checking New Century Schoolbook PFB files... /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059016l.pfb /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059036l.pfb /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059033l.pfb /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/c059013l.pfb checking for python... /usr/bin/python checking /usr/bin/python version... 2.6.5 checking for /usr/bin/python... /usr/bin/python checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E checking gcc version... 4.4.3 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... (cached) yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... (cached) yes checking g++ version... 4.4.3 checking options for known g++ tail call bug... none checking whether explicit instantiation is needed... no checking for stl.data () method... yes checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking for dlopen... yes checking for bison... bison -y checking for bison... bison checking bison version... 2.4.1 checking for flex... flex checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking FlexLexer.h usability... yes checking FlexLexer.h presence... yes checking for FlexLexer.h... yes checking for yyFlexLexer.yy_current_buffer... no checking FlexLexer.h location... /usr/include/FlexLexer.h checking language... English checking for gettext in -lintl... no checking for gettext... yes checking for msgfmt... msgfmt checking for mf-nowin... mf-nowin checking for mpost... mpost checking for working metafont mode... ljfour checking for kpsewhich... kpsewhich checking for guile-config... guile-config checking guile-config version... 1.8.7 checking guile compile flags... -pthread checking guile link flags... -pthread -lguile -lltdl -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -lgmp -lcrypt -lm -lltdl checking
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:35:36AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I could probably do it again. Maybe Debian would be better base so it wouldn't need upgrading as much? This upgrade is to match our changing development requirements, i.e. fontforge 20110222 --enable-double, astyle 2.02, having the user profile set up with $LILYPOND_GIT, etc. Not because of any problems in ubuntu 10.04 itself. Ok I can make these changes to the current setup. Haven't heard of $LILYPOND_GIT but I guess it's in the CG so I'll take a look. oh wait, were you referring to Ubuntu's frequent security updates? Well, I suppose that Debian probably has fewer... but I'd rather stay with ubuntu. All our windows contributors are accustomed to it by now, and there's plenty of newbie-oriented help online for ubuntu. I suggested it mainly b/c Ubuntu has very different UI in new releases, the Unity DE. For ubuntu 12.04 (next LTS release coming in spring) we may want to switch to xfce or switch to Debian completely. I can do whatever y'all want. Anyway I'll get started updating the 10.04 lilydev today, probably have a new iso in next day or so. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:53 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: hello and if you need someone to test it let me know. I've been using nothing else but lilydev and virtual box to compile and patch LP these last couple of years. Thanks James that'd be great. I'll post a link for you when it's ready. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 06:09:22AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok I can make these changes to the current setup. Haven't heard of $LILYPOND_GIT but I guess it's in the CG so I'll take a look. export LILYPOND_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-git/ export LILYPOND_WEB_MEDIA_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-web-media-git/ I suggested it mainly b/c Ubuntu has very different UI in new releases, the Unity DE. For ubuntu 12.04 (next LTS release coming in spring) we may want to switch to xfce or switch to Debian completely. or GNOME classic. Yes, it's something to consider, but if we update lilydev now, I doubt we'd want to update again until summer at least, and hopefully ubuntu 12.04 LTS will have settled down by then. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 06:09:22AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok I can make these changes to the current setup. Haven't heard of $LILYPOND_GIT but I guess it's in the CG so I'll take a look. export LILYPOND_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-git/ export LILYPOND_WEB_MEDIA_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-web-media-git/ Thanks, so I just add these to .bashrc right? Does this mean the lily-git.tcl script has changed too? I suggested it mainly b/c Ubuntu has very different UI in new releases, the Unity DE. For ubuntu 12.04 (next LTS release coming in spring) we may want to switch to xfce or switch to Debian completely. or GNOME classic. Yes, it's something to consider, but if we update lilydev now, I doubt we'd want to update again until summer at least, and hopefully ubuntu 12.04 LTS will have settled down by then. :) Ok we can revisit this in summer and make a decision then. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:01:27AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: export LILYPOND_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-git/ export LILYPOND_WEB_MEDIA_GIT=$HOME/lilypond-web-media-git/ Thanks, so I just add these to .bashrc right? Yes. Does this mean the lily-git.tcl script has changed too? lily-git.tcl has not changed yet, but hopefully it will soon. And if it doesn't, there's no big worries: nothing changes for 99% of developers, and the remaining 1% should be capable of figuring it out anyway. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: Thanks, so I just add these to .bashrc right? Yes. Does this mean the lily-git.tcl script has changed too? lily-git.tcl has not changed yet, but hopefully it will soon. And if it doesn't, there's no big worries: nothing changes for 99% of developers, and the remaining 1% should be capable of figuring it out anyway. Ok great. Compiling fontforge 20110222 with --enable-double now to test it. shouldn't take long to get new iso ready. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:18:40AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok great. Compiling fontforge 20110222 with --enable-double now to test it. shouldn't take long to get new iso ready. Forgive me if this is obvious, but have you done all the things listed here? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1964 i.e. not just stuff I mentioned in this email thread. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:18:40AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Ok great. Compiling fontforge 20110222 with --enable-double now to test it. shouldn't take long to get new iso ready. Forgive me if this is obvious, but have you done all the things listed here? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1964 i.e. not just stuff I mentioned in this email thread. Hadn't done all yet, thanks. I've been kind of out of the loop so hadn't followed everything. I'll take care of it. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
I suggested it mainly b/c Ubuntu has very different UI in new releases, the Unity DE. For ubuntu 12.04 (next LTS release coming in spring) we may want to switch to xfce or switch to Debian completely. I can do whatever y'all want. Lubuntu? ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:53 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: and if you need someone to test it let me know. I've been using nothing else but lilydev and virtual box to compile and patch LP these last couple of years. Uploading now. Give it about an hour from the timestamp on this email. Filesize is 850mb so if it shows smaller than that, it's not done uploading yet. http://jonkulp.dyndns-home.com/ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso http://jonkulp.dyndns-home.com/ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 Thanks for testing, James. :) -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Benkő Pál benko@gmail.com wrote: I suggested it mainly b/c Ubuntu has very different UI in new releases, the Unity DE. For ubuntu 12.04 (next LTS release coming in spring) we may want to switch to xfce or switch to Debian completely. I can do whatever y'all want. Lubuntu? My vote would go for Crunchbang since it's based on Debian stable and won't be having new releases all the time. I run it on almost every machine under my control. :) -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
Hello, On 10 December 2011 14:44, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:53 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: and if you need someone to test it let me know. I've been using nothing else but lilydev and virtual box to compile and patch LP these last couple of years. Uploading now. Give it about an hour from the timestamp on this email. Filesize is 850mb so if it shows smaller than that, it's not done uploading yet. http://jonkulp.dyndns-home.com/ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso http://jonkulp.dyndns-home.com/ubuntu-lilydev-remix-2.0.iso.md5 Thanks for testing, James. :) Downloading now. My Internet connection is not that fast, so I'll leave it run over night (it's late here) and then have a go at building LP with it tomorrow morning/early afternoon BST. I'll let you know. -- -- James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for testing, James. :) Downloading now. My Internet connection is not that fast, so I'll leave it run over night (it's late here) and then have a go at building LP with it tomorrow morning/early afternoon BST. I'll let you know. I've actually installed it in a VM and built LP successfully, now building docs (just 'local-doc' not the whole thing) so far seems to be working great. The new env vars, astyle 2.02.1 and fontforge 20110222 are all in place. Let me know if you encounter anything weird. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
lilydev 2.0
I think it's time to get this moving: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1964 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/building-an-ubuntu-distro Who's up for it? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I think it's time to get this moving: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1964 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/building-an-ubuntu-distro Who's up for it? I could probably do it again. Maybe Debian would be better base so it wouldn't need upgrading as much? Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://jonathankulp.org ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:35:36AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I could probably do it again. Maybe Debian would be better base so it wouldn't need upgrading as much? This upgrade is to match our changing development requirements, i.e. fontforge 20110222 --enable-double, astyle 2.02, having the user profile set up with $LILYPOND_GIT, etc. Not because of any problems in ubuntu 10.04 itself. oh wait, were you referring to Ubuntu's frequent security updates? Well, I suppose that Debian probably has fewer... but I'd rather stay with ubuntu. All our windows contributors are accustomed to it by now, and there's plenty of newbie-oriented help online for ubuntu. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: lilydev 2.0
hello On 10 Dec 2011, at 01:38, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:35:36AM -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: I could probably do it again. Maybe Debian would be better base so it wouldn't need upgrading as much? This upgrade is to match our changing development requirements, i.e. fontforge 20110222 --enable-double, astyle 2.02, having the user profile set up with $LILYPOND_GIT, etc. Not because of any problems in ubuntu 10.04 itself. oh wait, were you referring to Ubuntu's frequent security updates? Well, I suppose that Debian probably has fewer... but I'd rather stay with ubuntu. All our windows contributors are accustomed to it by now, and there's plenty of newbie-oriented help online for ubuntu. and if you need someone to test it let me know. I've been using nothing else but lilydev and virtual box to compile and patch LP these last couple of years. James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel