successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
That took a lot of time, but finally (after 4 days of trying) my machine managed to build LilyPond using GUB. I'll try more operating systems (like, ubuntu 12.04) when i get back home and setup everything (i'll be buying a new computer, so that may take some time). cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
Hello, On 28 August 2012 12:23, Janek Warchoł wrote: > That took a lot of time, but finally (after 4 days of trying) my > machine managed to build LilyPond using GUB. > I'll try more operating systems (like, ubuntu 12.04) when i get back > home and setup everything (i'll be buying a new computer, so that may > take some time). I have been trying to see about cutting a new LilyDev (2.7) on 12.04 - the limitation being whatever remastersys backup is supported on - when I last looked it was not on 12:10. If you can get GUB to work on 12.04 then it would be useful as I am not sure what GUB hackers like Phil and Graham use (maybe 10.04?). James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
- Original Message - From: "James" To: "Janek Warchoł" Cc: "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6) Hello, On 28 August 2012 12:23, Janek Warchoł wrote: That took a lot of time, but finally (after 4 days of trying) my machine managed to build LilyPond using GUB. I'll try more operating systems (like, ubuntu 12.04) when i get back home and setup everything (i'll be buying a new computer, so that may take some time). I have been trying to see about cutting a new LilyDev (2.7) on 12.04 - the limitation being whatever remastersys backup is supported on - when I last looked it was not on 12:10. If you can get GUB to work on 12.04 then it would be useful as I am not sure what GUB hackers like Phil and Graham use (maybe 10.04?). James Yep. 10.04 32 bit - I couldn't get it running on 64 bit, so I'm using a VM with a 32 bit OS - in fact, it's a lilydev machine. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
Phil Holmes writes: > Yep. 10.04 32 bit - I couldn't get it running on 64 bit, so I'm using > a VM with a 32 bit OS - in fact, it's a lilydev machine. And "it" is GUB here? Note that at Waltrop, Graham and I have built lilypond 2.17 GUB releases on 12.04 and John has built everything up to lilypond on Fedora17. Have a look at Graham's waltrop branch, it contains a number of fixes and will see more soon [until we switch back to master, of course]. Jan -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar® http://AvatarAcademy.nl ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
- Original Message - From: "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "James" ; "Janek Warchoł" ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6) Phil Holmes writes: > Yep. 10.04 32 bit - I couldn't get it running on 64 bit, so I'm using > a VM with a 32 bit OS - in fact, it's a lilydev machine. And "it" is GUB here? Note that at Waltrop, Graham and I have built lilypond 2.17 GUB releases on 12.04 and John has built everything up to lilypond on Fedora17. Have a look at Graham's waltrop branch, it contains a number of fixes and will see more soon [until we switch back to master, of course]. Jan Yes - "it" is Gub. I might try getting it working on 64 bit once I've bedded down regularly running it in the VM. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
2012/8/28 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : > Have a look at Graham's waltrop branch, it contains a number of fixes > and will see more soon [until we switch back to master, of course]. When Graham managed to rebuild stable/2.16 with waltrop branch, he merged it into master, so checking out that waltrop branch is no longer useful. Best, John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
2012/8/28 Phil Holmes : > Yes - "it" is Gub. I might try getting it working on 64 bit once I've > bedded down regularly running it in the VM. Running GUB inside a VM must slow it down a lot, you might want to build by chrooting into the mounted partition(s) that the VM used instead, with the hope that the 64bit host kernel causes no trouble with GUB build. That said, you might want to try building GUB directly on your 64bit system with the latest and greatest GUB on master, which includes some recent fixes, and report any build problems you encounter. John ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
- Original Message - From: "John Mandereau" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" ; "LilyPond Developmet Team" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6) 2012/8/28 Phil Holmes : Yes - "it" is Gub. I might try getting it working on 64 bit once I've bedded down regularly running it in the VM. Running GUB inside a VM must slow it down a lot, you might want to build by chrooting into the mounted partition(s) that the VM used instead, with the hope that the 64bit host kernel causes no trouble with GUB build. That said, you might want to try building GUB directly on your 64bit system with the latest and greatest GUB on master, which includes some recent fixes, and report any build problems you encounter. John Not on current CPUs. James only ever uses a VM for his builds and they're pretty nippy. Mine runs all 8 CPUs quite happily. As I said, I fancy getting GUB builds settled on my current incarnation before re-trying to get it running on a different environment. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
John, On 28 August 2012 15:31, John Mandereau wrote: > 2012/8/28 Phil Holmes : >> Yes - "it" is Gub. I might try getting it working on 64 bit once I've >> bedded down regularly running it in the VM. > > Running GUB inside a VM must slow it down a lot, It depends. If you have V-T enabled CPUs on your PC and the Virtual Software (VirtualBox or linux's qemu-KVM in the 3.x kernels for example) is able to access the CPUs directly because of that - effectively the OS in the VM has direct access to the CPU as if it were installed on bare metal. There is 'some' loss but it's negligible on my system - I seem to recall about 120 second difference compiling native vs in a VM. SSDs do also help. E.g http://ark.intel.com/Products/VirtualizationTechnology Para-virtualization will slow things down but I don't have any figures, but even they are getting better. You may then ask why bother using a VM at all and just install and compile on your own OS. It's easy then to roll out cloned VMs or take snapshots and roll back to certain points - I used to use this a lot before we had patchy test scripts - I'd run make and make test-baseline, take a snapshot and the apply a patch and run make test. When that was done, roll back to the snapshot and apply next patch and run make ; make test without the need to do another make test-baseline. Took seconds to roll back, saved me 10 minutes a patch (and that's on a fast machine) and I could guarantee a clean make test each time. i am sure there are other methods that snapshots can be used for, as long as you have the disk space and reasonable amounts of RAM, I think it's a nice way to develop. Oh and it helps when testing new LilyDevs. James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 01:24:09PM +0100, James wrote: > I have been trying to see about cutting a new LilyDev (2.7) on 12.04 - > the limitation being whatever remastersys backup is supported on - > when I last looked it was not on 12:10. I should say so, since 12:10 is still two months in the future! > If you can get GUB to work on 12.04 then it would be useful as I > am not sure what GUB hackers like Phil and Graham use (maybe > 10.04?). Much has changed in the past 4 days. I also have a bunch of requests for the next LilyDev, and will have even more in a few more days. More information will come soon. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: successful GUB build on my LilyDev (2.6)
Hello, On 28 August 2012 20:41, Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 01:24:09PM +0100, James wrote: >> I have been trying to see about cutting a new LilyDev (2.7) on 12.04 - >> the limitation being whatever remastersys backup is supported on - >> when I last looked it was not on 12:10. > > I should say so, since 12:10 is still two months in the future! I have to say I don't really follow the release cycle, so I guess it was 12.04 I meant, not 12.10 - remastersys was not 'available' on at least when I looked. There may be other tools but remastersys is really easy and I think (@janek or was it @Pavel?) that the live CD asking for a login/password might be simply solved - I've been trying to find out what that is about and have some links to the forums that sort of explains it - I haven't had much chance to read it in detail. james ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
