Re: working on the web front page
2009/8/2 Graham Percival : > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:56:04PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: >> >> I think John could pick up another random snippet from his lilypond >> directory. > > I'm sure that anybody could pick a random snippet from their > lilypond directory. Mao, anybody could *invent* a random snippet! > We don't need pester John for this. Agreed! but he posted one, then a more complicated one is needed, maybe he wants to post another one. No problem, I'll take care of this. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:56:04PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/8/1 Graham Percival : > >> > We might also want to find a more complicated / fancier snippet; > >> > maybe some lyrics + the top staff of a piano? > > I think John could pick up another random snippet from his lilypond directory. I'm sure that anybody could pick a random snippet from their lilypond directory. Mao, anybody could *invent* a random snippet! We don't need pester John for this. (why aren't I doing it? there's much more important things for me to do than working on the logo) > http:/www.paconet.org/lily-weblogos/glow-blue-small-no-bg.png This one is my favorite, but I'm not vetoing anything. (so far, as least :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
2009/8/1 Valentin Villenave : > 2009/8/1 Francisco Vila : >> Here are some additional realisations. > > I'd suggest a smiling note jumping on the lily flower, but that ship > has sailed already :-) I like this graphic style, what do you think? http://www.jesusda.com/ They are made with inkscape. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
2009/8/1 Francisco Vila : > Here are some additional realisations. I'd suggest a smiling note jumping on the lily flower, but that ship has sailed already :-) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
2009/8/1 Graham Percival : >> > We might also want to find a more complicated / fancier snippet; >> > maybe some lyrics + the top staff of a piano? I think John could pick up another random snippet from his lilypond directory. Here are some additional realisations. http:/www.paconet.org/lily-weblogos/bumped-no-bg.png http:/www.paconet.org/lily-weblogos/glow-blue-mediumsized-no-bg.png http:/www.paconet.org/lily-weblogos/glow-blue-small-no-bg.png Full GIMP working file http:/www.paconet.org/lily-weblogos/web-snippet-lily.xcf -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 11:00:42AM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/8/1 Graham Percival : > >> Thanks! I added this to the web-gop branch. > > > > I like it! Although, could the lily be shrunk to about 50% of the > > current size? It obscures a bit too much of the music. > > > > We might also want to find a more complicated / fancier snippet; > > maybe some lyrics + the top staff of a piano? > > Sure, and what about a sort of 'glow' surrounding the lilies? Maybe... as long as the glow doesn't obscure much of the music. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
2009/8/1 Graham Percival : >> Thanks! I added this to the web-gop branch. > > I like it! Although, could the lily be shrunk to about 50% of the > current size? It obscures a bit too much of the music. > > We might also want to find a more complicated / fancier snippet; > maybe some lyrics + the top staff of a piano? Sure, and what about a sort of 'glow' surrounding the lilies? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:51:09AM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > > 2009/7/31 Graham Percival : > > > >> I guess my basic complaint is that the logo doesn't do anything > >> for me -- a lily pad has nothing to do with notation. I'd be > >> happier if it had something musical in it. > > > > Here I propose a possible solution. Merge John's snippet (made > > transparent) with the lily logo and you have a lily logo with music. > > Thanks! I added this to the web-gop branch. I like it! Although, could the lily be shrunk to about 50% of the current size? It obscures a bit too much of the music. We might also want to find a more complicated / fancier snippet; maybe some lyrics + the top staff of a piano? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/7/31 Graham Percival : > >> I guess my basic complaint is that the logo doesn't do anything >> for me -- a lily pad has nothing to do with notation. I'd be >> happier if it had something musical in it. > > Here I propose a possible solution. Merge John's snippet (made > transparent) with the lily logo and you have a lily logo with music. > > Attached is a small sample. This is the link to an actual-sized > version. It has the same name as the current image for easy testing. > > http://paconet.org/double-lily-modified2.png Thanks! I added this to the web-gop branch. I also made a couple small changes to liven things up a bit. Thanks, Patrick ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
2009/7/31 Graham Percival : > I guess my basic complaint is that the logo doesn't do anything > for me -- a lily pad has nothing to do with notation. I'd be > happier if it had something musical in it. Here I propose a possible solution. Merge John's snippet (made transparent) with the lily logo and you have a lily logo with music. Attached is a small sample. This is the link to an actual-sized version. It has the same name as the current image for easy testing. http://paconet.org/double-lily-modified2.png -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org www.csmbadajoz.com <>___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:09:17PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 04:38:25PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > > Remember that we can set background images in CSS. I recommend > > keeping all such images in css/, and modifying the css file rather > > than the raw texinfo. > > Typically websites inline the branded images so that users with > stylesheets turned off or users with a non-graphical browser will know > that the image is there. You have a point there. Also, whenever we produce info and pdf, we'd want the logo in there. That part of the patch has been reverted. I guess my basic complaint is that the logo doesn't do anything for me -- a lily pad has nothing to do with notation. I'd be happier if it had something musical in it. > > I've just pushed a change to move the "What is lilypond" box to > > the right. It also has an ugly black background to remind > > everybody that we can do things like that, although it might not > > terrible if it were light gray rather than black. > > I don't see a black background. I see a cropped treble clef though. Err, that's what I meant. An ugly cropped black background treble clef. > Also, I must have missed the reason why you moved the box. I think it > was much more noticeable in its previous location. Really? I thought it merged with the news too easily. I just tried shading the background (like the @warning) and now I think it's better. > Are are any volunteers to continue work on the CSS? I truly hope so, since neither of us are web developers. Furthering my challenge to produce alternate CSS: we now have a default.css and an alt1.css. The alt1.css is what I produced (moving more stuff to the right). Check out the two styles, send in your own, etc. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: working on the web front page
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 04:38:25PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
> Remember that we can set background images in CSS. I recommend
> keeping all such images in css/, and modifying the css file rather
> than the raw texinfo.
While I agree with you for the most part, I do *not* think the logo
should be a background image.
The LilyPond logo is being used as the LilyPond "brand", so to speak.
Typically websites inline the branded images so that users with
stylesheets turned off or users with a non-graphical browser will know
that the image is there.
The same thing applies for sites that don't have stylesheets, like the
various GNU sites the use the "non-gif" gnu image as their brand.
...
Now you know the reason why I had the logo inlined in texinfo. :-)
> I've just pushed a change to move the "What is lilypond" box to
> the right. It also has an ugly black background to remind
> everybody that we can do things like that, although it might not
> terrible if it were light gray rather than black.
I don't see a black background. I see a cropped treble clef though.
Also, I must have missed the reason why you moved the box. I think it
was much more noticeable in its previous location.
> Also, what about simply making the background more prominent on
> the home page? I agree that the faded score is good on other
> pages, but how about leaving the space to the left of the main
> title blank, letting a stronger background come through?
> (maybe score should be black, fading away to white on the right?)
I would rather not have the page header title ("LilyPond" etc.) on the
right side of the page, but if the change is justified, I might change
my mind.
Are are any volunteers to continue work on the CSS?
-Patrick
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working on the web front page
Remember that we can set background images in CSS. I recommend keeping all such images in css/, and modifying the css file rather than the raw texinfo. I've just pushed a change to move the "What is lilypond" box to the right. It also has an ugly black background to remind everybody that we can do things like that, although it might not terrible if it were light gray rather than black. Also, what about simply making the background more prominent on the home page? I agree that the faded score is good on other pages, but how about leaving the space to the left of the main title blank, letting a stronger background come through? (maybe score should be black, fading away to white on the right?) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
