*single* tie in chord

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

Hi

I cannot figure out how to get a tie between only one of the notes in a
chord, like this: (excuse my poor ascii art)

-|-|-
-|-|-
-|--|---|--|-
-|--|---|--|-
-|--o---o--|-
   -o- -o-
 \_/

This is what I tried (including the obvious , that really is
the way it should be done IMHO), lily 1.5.63:

\include "paper20.ly"
%\version "1.5.63"
\header {
title = "Single tie in chord"
composer = "Atte André Jensen"
tagline = " "
footer = " "
}
tHide = \property Voice.Tie \override #'transparent = ##t
tShow = \property Voice.Tie \override #'transparent = ##f

melody = \notes  \relative c' \context Voice = LHa {
|   <~c e> 
| <{c ~ c\tHide ~ c ~ c}{e e e e}>
| \tShow   ~ 
| <{c ~ c c c}{e e e ~ e}>
}

\score {
\context Staff = melody {
\time 4/4
\melody
}
\paper {
}
}


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type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

If I do:

\property Voice.Slur \set #'direction = #'up

I get:

Type check for `direction' failed; value `up' must be of type `direction'

What am I doing wrong?
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Re: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Jérémie Lumbroso


AAJ> \property Voice.Slur \set #'direction = #'up
You mean:

 \set #'direction = #1 for "up" and
 \set #'direction = #-1for "down"

 
But why not simply make use of the shortcuts as defined in the
'property-init.ly' file:

 \slurDown a ( ) b \slurUp a ( ) b

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Re: *single* tie in chord

2002-08-12 Thread Carter Brey

Did you try setting

\property Voice.sparseTies = ##t

?

Carter

Atte Andre Jensen wrote:

>Hi
>
>I cannot figure out how to get a tie between only one of the notes in a
>chord, like this: (excuse my poor ascii art)
>
>-|-|-
>-|-|-
>-|--|---|--|-
>-|--|---|--|-
>-|--o---o--|-
>   -o- -o-
> \_/
>
>This is what I tried (including the obvious , that really is
>the way it should be done IMHO), lily 1.5.63:
>
>\include "paper20.ly"
>%\version "1.5.63"
>\header {
>title = "Single tie in chord"
>composer = "Atte André Jensen"
>tagline = " "
>footer = " "
>}
>tHide = \property Voice.Tie \override #'transparent = ##t
>tShow = \property Voice.Tie \override #'transparent = ##f
>
>melody = \notes  \relative c' \context Voice = LHa {
>|   <~c e> 
>| <{c ~ c\tHide ~ c ~ c}{e e e e}>
>| \tShow   ~ 
>| <{c ~ c c c}{e e e ~ e}>
>}
>
>\score {
>\context Staff = melody {
>   \time 4/4
>   \melody
>}
>\paper {
>}
>}
>
>
>  
>


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Fwd: Re: *single* tie in chord

2002-08-12 Thread Jérémie Lumbroso


AAJ> I cannot figure out how to get a tie between only one of the notes in a
AAJ> chord, like this:
I don't currently know of a way to do that at the moment (usually,
when such a case occurs, it's because the notes are form two different
voices). I suggest you use the voicify function as follow:

 < { c4 ~ c } \\ { e4 e } >

For more informations:
http://lilypond.org/development/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Polyphony.html


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Re: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, [ISO-8859-15] Jérémie Lumbroso wrote:

>
> AAJ> \property Voice.Slur \set #'direction = #'up
> You mean:
>
>  \set #'direction = #1 for "up" and
>  \set #'direction = #-1for "down"

Yeah!

> But why not simply make use of the shortcuts as defined in the
> 'property-init.ly' file:
>
>  \slurDown a ( ) b \slurUp a ( ) b

Well, because I didn't know where too look, besides I just figured out how
to tweak, so...

But that looks infinityly nice, that file.

Thanks alot :-)
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Re: Fwd: Re: *single* tie in chord

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Jérémie Lumbroso wrote:

>
> AAJ> I cannot figure out how to get a tie between only one of the notes in a
> AAJ> chord, like this:
> I don't currently know of a way to do that at the moment (usually,
> when such a case occurs, it's because the notes are form two different
> voices). I suggest you use the voicify function as follow:
>
>  < { c4 ~ c } \\ { e4 e } >

That works great, esp combined with \voiceOne, \voiceTwo, \tieDown and
\tieUp:

<{\voiceOne \tieDown c c c~ c}\\{\voiceOne  e~ e e e}>

I get some:

warning: Too many clashing notecolumns.  Ignoring them.

though, but I guess those can just be ignored...

Thanks!
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Re: *single* tie in chord

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Carter Brey wrote:

> Did you try setting
>
> \property Voice.sparseTies = ##t

Nope, but that looks a bit funny, plus I apparently only ties the lower
notes, whereas I need both possibilities. I like Jérémie's suggestion
better. But thanks anyways :-)
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Re: multimeasure rest

2002-08-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

You have already received an answer, but the next time
you're looking for a feature, go to the Lilypond web site
and click on "Search".

   /Mats

> Hi to all!!
> 
> This is the first time I write here... and I'm probably writing for a
> stupid thing... is there anyone who know how can I write a multi-measure
> rest?
> It is few days that I'm studying the manual, but I cant find anything...
> 
> please.. help me!!
> 
> thankyuo in advance!!
> ste
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Re: A whole bunch of questions (fwd)

2002-08-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

> > 1) I've put the decorations (fingerings, crescendo, dynamics, pedalings,
> > etc) together with the music. Is that the smart thing to do? Would it be
> 
> Yes, that's how to do it.

Well, yes and no! The problem of attaching these decorations 
to spacing notes in a separate line of music is that Lilypond
won't always realize where to place them vertically to avoid
collisions with the actual music. 
If the same performance instructions should be added to 
several instrumental parts, for example, then I would 
handle them separately. Otherwise, keep them together with 
the music, which makes it easier to edit and avoids more
collisions.

> > 2) There's a lot of clashes between almost everything. In general I think
> > the slurs should be put further away from the music. Also the dynamics
> > clashes with slurs (bar 19) and notes (bar 15) and sometimes (bar 15
> > again) it would be better to attach the slur to the stems instead of the
> > noteheads. How are these thing improved?
> 
> See the "fine tuning".  Ask again if you don't understand.  (after I finish
> my honours thesis in philosophy, I'm going to be editing the tutorial
> and manual, so knowing any confusing parts would be great.  :)

I often use the 'padding' property of different graphical objects
to avoid collisions.

> > 3) He (the "customer", not esp I) would like a more "spaced out" layout,
> > both horizontally, but also more space between staffs (would also solve,
> > or at least help to solve some clashes) and systems. And It would be nice
> > to have (or be able to put) a bit more space between the title and the
> > music. How is that accomplished?
> 
> It's in the manual.  Writing parts -> vertical spacing.
> As for title and music, you could try adding a "\break" or two at the end
> of the music.  I don't know it that'll work, though.

No, it won't work. For the title, just use ordinary LaTeX, 
i.e. insert an extra \\ or \\[5mm] or whatever at the end
of the composer field (or whatever field is printed closest
to the music). 
For the spacing between the staves, the referenced part of
the manual (first go to http://lilypond.org/development) is
relevant.

> > 4) crescendo/diminuendo/dynamic markings should be possible to put either
> > above and below systems + between staffs. How?
> 
> See "fine tuning".

or use the \dynamicUp \dynamicDown \dynamicBoth macros
defined in ly/property{,-init}.ly


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Re: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

> > But why not simply make use of the shortcuts as defined in the
> > 'property-init.ly' file:
> >
> >  \slurDown a ( ) b \slurUp a ( ) b
> 
> Well, because I didn't know where too look, besides I just figured out how
> to tweak, so...

Who volunteers to document these macros in the manual?
They should definitely be there and they don't change
very often so it's not worth the trouble to automate
the documentation.

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Re: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > But why not simply make use of the shortcuts as defined in the
> > > 'property-init.ly' file:
> > >
> > >  \slurDown a ( ) b \slurUp a ( ) b
> > 
> > Well, because I didn't know where too look, besides I just figured out how
> > to tweak, so...
> 
> Who volunteers to document these macros in the manual?
> They should definitely be there and they don't change
> very often so it's not worth the trouble to automate
> the documentation.

Yes, but there are very many of them, and listing them in a
handwritten document is a lot of work. I plan to dump all music
identifiers to the internals document once Music is really Schemified.
(early 1.7).

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Re[2]: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Jérémie Lumbroso


MB> Who volunteers to document these macros in the manual?
MB> They should definitely be there and they don't change
MB> very often so it's not worth the trouble to automate
MB> the documentation.

I volunteer... It seems like a simple enough to task to get started,
using texinfo, no?


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Re: Re[2]: type `direction'

2002-08-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

> 
> MB> Who volunteers to document these macros in the manual?
> MB> They should definitely be there and they don't change
> MB> very often so it's not worth the trouble to automate
> MB> the documentation.
> 
> I volunteer... It seems like a simple enough to task to get started,
> using texinfo, no?

Excellent!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Yes, but there are very many of them, and listing them in a
> handwritten document is a lot of work. I plan to dump all music
> identifiers to the internals document once Music is really Schemified.
> (early 1.7). 

Since the macro names are so self explanatory, it's almost enough
to just list them, no need for a long explanation of each one.

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VerticalAlignment in PianoStaff

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

Here:

http://www.lilypond.org/development/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Vertical-spacing.html#Vertical%20spacing

I read:

"The piano staffs are handled a little differently: to make cross-staff
beaming work correctly, it necessary that the distance between staves is
fixed. This is also done with a VerticalAlignment grob, created in
PianoStaff , but a forced distance is set. This is done with the grob
property #'forced-distance. If you want to override this, use a
\translator block as follows:

\translator {
\PianoStaffContext
VerticalAlignment \override #'forced-distance = #9
}

This would bring the staffs together at a distance of 9 staff spaces, and
again this is measured from the center line of each staff."

Great! But I can't figure out where to put the code... Asumed it was just
after my \context PianoStaff but that gives me an "error: parse error,
expecting `STRING':" on the "{" in the above code.

Newbies like me really need to see stuff in context to get the big
picture, so is someone could post a working .ly with VertivalAlignment *in
PianoStaff*, that would be extremely helpful.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: VerticalAlignment in PianoStaff

2002-08-12 Thread Jérémie Lumbroso


AAJ> But I can't figure out where to put the code...
\score {

  \context PianoStaff \notes <

  [...]
  
  >

  \paper {
 \translator {
\PianoStaffContext
VerticalAlignment \override #'forced-distance = #9
 }
  }
}

For more informations, look the following address up:
http://www.lilypond.org/stable/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Changing-context-definitions.html


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Re: VerticalAlignment in PianoStaff

2002-08-12 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, [ISO-8859-15] Jérémie Lumbroso wrote:

>
> AAJ> But I can't figure out where to put the code...
> \score {
>
>   \context PianoStaff \notes <
>
>   [...]
>
>   >
>
>   \paper {
>  \translator {
> \PianoStaffContext
> VerticalAlignment \override #'forced-distance = #9
>  }
>   }
> }

Thanks, that helped...

This kinda stuff oughta be in the manual IMHO
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Bug???

2002-08-12 Thread rsff

Guys,

I think there's a bug.  I did this.

+ [ BEGIN ] +

[. . . ]

\score {
\simultaneous {
\context ChordNames \acordes
\context Staff \musica
}
\paper {
\translator {
\StaffContext
minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-4.0 . 0.0)
}
\translator {
\VoiceContext
Stem \set #'thickness = #2.0
}
\translator {
\ChordNamesContext
chordChanges = ##t
verticalExtent = #'(0.0 . 4.0)
ChordName \override #'style = #'american
ChordName \override #'font-magnification = #'1.25
}
}
}
[ END ] +

Lily responds like this. 

+ [ BEGIN ] +

/home/rsff/Documents/Musica/Composições/ChoroR.ly:169:13: error: parse error, 
unexpected SET, expecting OVERRIDE or REVERT or '=':
Stem \set
  #'thickness = #2.0

[ END ] +

So, Either the docs are wrong ( have the one ONLINE ). THey read that you can 
SET in the Translator score, or something is wrong with lily. . . I bet its 
the Manual that has not been updated. . . . . . 

Fabio.




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