Re: Buglet

2002-09-18 Thread Graham Percival

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:05:17 -0300
Fabio dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok. So I couln not find any pages that told me how to do a Bug Report.

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 Bug I believe I got one, so I'm putting it right here. . .

It looks like a bug, but the developers need to have a (short) example
which causes the bug.  In addition, sometimes Lilypond doesn't give
very nice error messages -- for example if you try to comment a line
with # instead of %

Making a short example which causes the bug has two advantages: it means
that the developers don't need to compile a big example to see the problem,
and it also makes sure that the bug really is a bug (and not just an
incorrect ly file which produces a nasty error message).  :)
 
 Any ideas?? I seemed to work when I was using another workstation with
 the 1.6.0 version os lilypond. . . . Could it be my setup?

A few new things have been introduced since then, which could have caused
the bug.  If you can compile other scores (or test ly files), I doubt
that it would be your setup.  You should check a few simple scores anyway.

Cheers,
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Re: Buglet

2002-09-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson

In www.lilypond.org, click on Support: Mailing lists, to 
learn where to send bug reports.

At the moment, the 19pt size is not supported. See, the 
recent discussion in 
http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/lilypond-devel/2002-September/001644.html
with followups.

   /Mats

 Ok. So I couln not find any pages that told me how to do a Bug Report.
 
 Bug I believe I got one, so I'm putting it right here. . .
 
 I'm trying to make a sheet at 19pt, Lilypond 1.6.2-1 (Debian
 distribution)
 
 I get the following errors:
 
 +
 
 bash-2.05a$ ly2dvi viola.ly
 Running LilyPond...
 GNU LilyPond 1.6.2
 Now processing: `viola.ly'
 Parsing...Backtrace:
 0* [make-style-sheet paper19]
 1  (quasiquote (# # # # ...))
 2* [append (((* * * ...) feta-braces0 feta-braces1 ...)) ...
 3*  [cdr #f]
 
 /usr/share/lilypond/1.6.2/scm/font.scm:229:23: In procedure cdr in
 expression (cdr (assoc sym font-list-alist)):
 /usr/share/lilypond/1.6.2/scm/font.scm:229:23: Wrong type argument in
 position 1: #f
 
 LilyPond failed on an input file (exit status 2).
 Trying to salvage the rest.
 
 warning: no LilyPond output found for `viola'
 Running LaTeX...
 DVI output to `viola.dvi'...
 MIDI output to `viola.midi'...
 
 +++
 
 Any ideas?? I seemed to work when I was using another workstation with
 the 1.6.0 version os lilypond. . . . Could it be my setup?
 
 Thanks and keep up the good work!
 Fabio.
 
 
 
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chords w/ornaments

2002-09-18 Thread Simon Bailey

hi all,

when typesetting chords, any ornamentation must be applied to one of the
notes inside the chord bracket. i think it would make more sense to
apply the ornament to the chord itself though...

current:
c1\fermata a e,

my suggestion:
c1 a e.\fermata

would this make sense to anybody else, or is this my warped way of
thinking?

greetings,
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Re: chords w/ornaments

2002-09-18 Thread David Raleigh Arnold

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:59:57 Simon Bailey wrote:
 hi all,
 
 when typesetting chords, any ornamentation must be applied to one of the
 notes inside the chord bracket. i think it would make more sense to
 apply the ornament to the chord itself though...
 
 current:
 c1\fermata a e,
 
 my suggestion:
 c1 a e.\fermata
 
 would this make sense to anybody else, or is this my warped way of
 thinking?
 
 greetings,
 simon.

A fermata isn't an ornament.  How would you apply a
turn to a chord?

DaveA


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Re: Firstpagefill?

2002-09-18 Thread Maurizio Tomasi

 Thank you grahAm for the enlightening answer to my previous question.

I am interested too in the issue of preventing lilypond from removing
staves in the first page, but Graham's answer has not been sent to this
mailing list.  Could you forward the e-mail here, please?

Maurizio





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Re: chords w/ornaments

2002-09-18 Thread Simon Bailey

On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 09:28, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
 A fermata isn't an ornament.  How would you apply a
 turn to a chord?

it's listed in the manual under ornamentations|articulations...

i'd apply it the same way:
c1 a e,\turn

for staccato, marcato, etc. i'd also use the same syntax.

c1 a e,-. or c1 a e,\staccato
c1 a e,- or c1 a e,\marcato

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Re: chords w/ornaments

2002-09-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The question was not how you do it in Lilypond but
how you do it as a performing musician. David's point 
is that it doesn't make sense to apply an ornament to 
a chord.

  /Mats


 On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 09:28, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
  A fermata isn't an ornament.  How would you apply a
  turn to a chord?
 
 it's listed in the manual under ornamentations|articulations...
 
 i'd apply it the same way:
 c1 a e,\turn
 
 for staccato, marcato, etc. i'd also use the same syntax.
 
 c1 a e,-. or c1 a e,\staccato
 c1 a e,- or c1 a e,\marcato
 
 simon.
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Re: chords w/ornaments

2002-09-18 Thread Simon Bailey

On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 13:50, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
 The question was not how you do it in Lilypond but
 how you do it as a performing musician. David's point 
 is that it doesn't make sense to apply an ornament to 
 a chord.

certain ornaments wouldn't make sense either on a chord or in a chord --
a trill for example:

c1\trill a e, or c1 a e,\trill -- neither makes sense...

as a performing musician i play chords which do have an ornament on them
(staccato, fermata, ...) the same way as i would play a single note in
the same context. 

in brass music it is quite common in sinlge voices which are played by
more than one musician for chords to be written. in this case, if the
chord has an articulation, then each player will play his note with
this articulation.

i can understand that some articulations would be pointless in a chord
context from a performing point of view, but some, however, are
regularly used.

greetings,
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Re: chord spread over two staves (piano)

2002-09-18 Thread Jule Slootbeek

i looked up cross staff voice which led me here:

http://lilypond.org/stable/Documentation/user/out-
www/lilypond/A-piano-excerpt.html#A%20piano%20excerpt

with \context Staff = bass i can't get it to work well either, cuz the 
stems won't connect.

Jule

On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 03:22 , Mats Bengtsson wrote:

 You probably want to say \context Staff not \translator Staff.
 I don't know what part of the manual you have read.

 /Mats

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Bar size (2nd time)

2002-09-18 Thread Maurizio Tomasi

Yesterday I posted this message which was refused because it was too big.
I reduced the size of the PNG image, so now it should be ok.

-- Original message --
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:09:47 +0200 (CEST)
From: Maurizio Tomasi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bar size

Hello to everybody.

I have attached a tarball containing a small extract from a score I am
typesetting now (Mozart Concerto for Piano KV. 459). I have some problems
when creating the solo part for the second movement (you can see them in
the PNG preview of the first page; if you want to recreate the score,
simply do ly2dvi -P k459-solo.ly).

You can see how the first 25 bars are rests which are combined in a single
multimeasure rest. This bar is too much wide, and the first two lines of
music are tightly spaced. Am I doing something wrong?

Another question: if you look at bar 48, the left hand staff has a clef
change which steals space to the right hand staff (the last note - a -
in the right hand staff is distant from the next barline). This is not
necessary, since the left hand staff has a lot of free space where to
place the bass clef even without shifting notes in the right hand staff.
The effect is not pleasant, since the whole bar seems to be too much
empty.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions.
Maurizio




preview.png
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k459-problem.tar.gz
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Re[2]: chord spread over two staves (piano)

2002-09-18 Thread Jérémie Lumbroso


MB Others can provide more details, I've never done this
MB myself.

Here's how I do it (output in `preview.png') -- of course it must be
place in context:


sUp = \translator Staff = up
sDown = \translator Staff = down

stemExtend = \property Voice.Stem \set #'length = #22
stemNormal = \property Voice.Slur \revert #'length


 { \stemDown \sDown s4. a, } \\
  { \stemDown \sUp   f4. \stemExtend f  } |

\stemNormal

[...]

-- 
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 Jérémiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Extender lines combined with slurs

2002-09-18 Thread Thomas E Dent


I am trying to get a single word put under the first note of a three-note
slur and an extender line under the other two. However I can't see any way
to do this. Since there are no new words under the second and third notes
I have to enter the blank lyric _ , but then the extender line stops very
short. In the example of the online manual, the program seems to know
that notes slurred together only take a single lyric, however when I run
the example on the computer it doesn't work - each _note_ gets its own
lyric!

Please tell me what is going on - is there some sort of version clash
here, since I am running the version that comes automatically installed on
the SuSE Linux Professional package.

Yours,
Thomas Dent

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Help on installation - Can't find function `int isinf(...)'

2002-09-18 Thread Rodrigo

Hello all. I'm a newbie, and I'm having a difficult time installing lilypond.
I'm using Solaris 8
# uname -a
SunOS sun 5.8 Generic_108528-06 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100

I correct some problems that I had with configure script and I thought that 
I would finally succeed but now I have this error when I try to make.

# make all
snip
beam.cc: In function `static void Beam::consider_auto_knees(Grob *)':
beam.cc:669: implicit declaration of function `int isinf(...)'
make[1]: *** [out/beam.o] Error 1
snip

I checked beam.cc and found the call to isinf. I searched for isinf and 
found that usually it is on math.h (also found some reference to ieeefp.h). 
I checked both files in my machine and couldn't find it.
I'm stuck, any pointer is appreciated.

[]s,

Rodrigo



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Re: HaraKiri and full first page (sorry)

2002-09-18 Thread Graham Percival

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:19:36 -0700
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:45:55 +0200
 olav gundersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All pocket scores have a full first page of every movement, so that you can 
  see all the instruments used. Then they are printed with only the playing 
  instruments on the following pages. 
 
 IIRC the \HaraKiri only kills a staffline that contains Rests (ie R1*8), not
 rests (ie r1*8).  Try giving all instruments one bar of lower-case rest before
 switching to upper-case Rests.  :)
 
 ChEerS,
 - gRahAM, since capitalization matters.  :)


Sorry, I hit r instead of g.

Cheers,
- Rraham, since letteres matter too.  :)


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Settings for a hymn book

2002-09-18 Thread Oscar A. Valdez

The following should be the first of several consecutive chants and hymns. The first 
score is a salutation, and the second is the response.

There are two things I would like to change, but don't know how:

1) The notes (especially in the second score) seem to be vertically centered on the 
staff, with excessive space between them. I would like them to be left-aligned, and 
closely spaced.

2) I would like the opus header to appear only once, before the first score, and not 
twice, before each score.

Help will be appreciated.

Oscar Valdez

**

\header {
opus = 1. Con la señal de la cruz
tagline = Traducción del Graduale Simplex
}
\score {
\addlyrics
\context Staff = Celeb {
\property Staff.midiInstrument = church organ
\property Staff.noAutoBeaming = ##t
\property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t
\cadenzaOn
\notes
\relative c' {
\clef bass
g8 g a a a
a g a a b
a a a a a
g a [a( )g] g   
\bar |.
}
}
\context Lyrics
\lyrics {
En el nom bre del
Pa dre, y del Hi-
jo, y del Es- pi-
ri- tu San to.
}
}
\score {
\addlyrics
\context Staff = Resp {
\property Staff.midiInstrument = church organ
\property Staff.noAutoBeaming = ##t
\property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t
\cadenzaOn
\notes
\relative c' {
\clef bass
g8 [g( )a]
\bar |.
}
}
\context Lyrics
\lyrics {
A men.
}
}



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