vertical spacing of dynamics

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Scott
Has the vertical spacing of dynamics changed in 2.1.12 or must I have 
done something silly.  My dynamics are all centered on the bottom line 
of the staff and this does nothing.

\property Voice.DynamicLineSpanner \override #'padding = #10.0

TIA for any ideas.

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Re: Dynamics: cresc not correctly typesetted

2004-01-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Monday 19 January 2004 10:31, Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote:
> Hello, Dave (et al.):
> > I don't like \crescmark too much either, but IMHO something or this
> > sort
> > is a lot more logical and intuitive than what is being done now.
> >
> > \cpin, \endcpin?  \dpin, \enddpin?  The fact that "<" can be seen
> > as a letter C doesn't hurt.  Any better ideas?
>
> Do you not like the existing \< notation?
>
> Just curious,
> Kieren.

That's great!  It's hard to keep up.  :-)  daveA

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Re: Appoggiatura + Double Bar Line

2004-01-19 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Will:

\appoggiatura a,8( fsharp'8\p) r fsharp2 e16[( d fsharp a]) |

(Bonus points for identifying what music it is!)
It's almost exactly a quote from "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" 
(Han Solo's theme, I think), so I'm going to guess Richard Strauss...

Best wishes,
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Appoggiatura + Double Bar Line

2004-01-19 Thread Will Oram
I tried all the tricks I know to keep an appoggiatura in the same bar 
as the note it slurs to; this one case seems to be different from all 
my experiences in the past.

bar "||"
\appoggiatura a,8( fsharp'8\p) r fsharp2 e16[( d fsharp a]) |
In other words, a double bar followed by an appoggiatura, followed by 
music. (Bonus points for identifying what music it is!) When outputted, 
a single barline is created, the appoggiatura follows, THEN the double 
barline appears, followed by the music. I've tried \bar "", << { 
\appogiatura music } \\ { s8 } >>, etc.; nothing works.

Suggestions?

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Re: lyrics, NoteEdit and Lilypond2.0.2

2004-01-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
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> >
> >Perhaps I can shorten this: Next NoteEdit version will always produce
> >
> > \property Score.melismaBusyProperties = #'()
> >  
> >
> Silly me, why did I ever mention this ugly workaround that works in this
> particular example but means that slurs and ties are not interpreted as 
> melismas
> when the lyrics are combined with the music.

What am I missing? Doesn't NoteEdit know the right durations for each
syllable? Why doesn't it simply output the lyrics with explicit duration? 


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Vertical alignment of Figured Bass?

2004-01-19 Thread Rutger Hofman
Hi list,

how can I achieve better vertical alignment of figured
bass figures? See example.
My preference is between:
a) the top of the stack of figures is at some fixed distance
  below the lowest note in this *bar*
or
b) the top of the stack of figures is at some fixed distance
  below the lowest note in this *staff*.
In all cases, I would prefer the alignment to be "top" i.s.o.
"bottom".
Any tips? I tried:

\property FiguredBass . TextScript \override #'self-alignment-Y = #'-1

but to no avail.

Thanks,

Rutger
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Loading lilypond-mode fails on emacs startup

2004-01-19 Thread Jeffery B. Rancier
I just recently realized that the elisp source is included with the
distribution (as opposed to the emacswiki).  When I execute the
following on startup:

,
| (load "lilypond-mode")
| (setq auto-mode-alist
|   (cons '("\\.ly$" . LilyPond-mode) auto-mode-alist))
| (add-hook 'LilyPond-mode-hook (lambda () (turn-on-font-lock)))
`

But it results in the following backtrace, can anyone give me a hand
with this?

,[ Backtrace2.txt ]
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil)
|   substring(nil 0 -3)
|   (if (eq LilyPond-command-current (quote LilyPond-command-master)) (substring 
(LilyPond-master-file) 0 -3) LilyPond-region-file-prefix)
|   (let ((fnameprefix ...) (allcount ...) (count ...)) (concat fnameprefix (if ... 
...) ".midi"))
|   LilyPond-string-current-midi()
|   (concat LilyPond-midi-command " " (LilyPond-string-current-midi))
|   (cons (concat LilyPond-midi-command " " (LilyPond-string-current-midi)) (quote 
"LilyPond"))
|   (cons "Midi" (cons (concat LilyPond-midi-command " " ...) (quote "LilyPond")))
|   (backquote-list* "Midi" (concat LilyPond-midi-command " " 
(LilyPond-string-current-midi)) (quote "LilyPond"))
|   (list (quote ("LilyPond" "lilypond-bin %s" . "LaTeX")) (quote ("TeX" "tex 
'\\nonstopmode\\input %t'" . "View")) (quote ("2Dvi" "lilypond %s" . "View")) (quote 
("2PS" "lilypond -P %s" . "ViewPS")) (quote ("2Midi" "lilypond -m %s" . "View")) 
(quote ("Book" "lilypond-book %x" . "LaTeX")) (quote ("LaTeX" "latex 
'\\nonstopmode\\input %l'" . "View")) (quote ("SmartView" "xdvi %d" . "LilyPond")) 
(backquote-list* "View" (concat LilyPond-xdvi-command " %d") (quote "LilyPond")) 
(backquote-list* "ViewPS" (concat LilyPond-gv-command " %p") (quote "LilyPond")) 
(backquote-list* "Midi" (concat LilyPond-midi-command " " ...) (quote "LilyPond")) 
(backquote-list* "MidiAll" (concat LilyPond-all-midi-command " " ...) (quote 
"LilyPond")))
|   (\` (("LilyPond" "lilypond-bin %s" . "LaTeX") ("TeX" "tex '\\nonstopmode\\input 
%t'" . "View") ("2Dvi" "lilypond %s" . "View") ("2PS" "lilypond -P %s" . "ViewPS") 
("2Midi" "lilypond -m %s" . "View") ("Book" "lilypond-book %x" . "LaTeX") ("LaTeX" 
"latex '\\nonstopmode\\input %l'" . "View") ("SmartView" "xdvi %d" . "LilyPond") 
("View" ... . "LilyPond") ("ViewPS" ... . "LilyPond") ("Midi" ... . "LilyPond") 
("MidiAll" ... . "LilyPond")))
|   eval((\` (("LilyPond" "lilypond-bin %s" . "LaTeX") ("TeX" "tex 
'\\nonstopmode\\input %t'" . "View") ("2Dvi" "lilypond %s" . "View") ("2PS" "lilypond 
-P %s" . "ViewPS") ("2Midi" "lilypond -m %s" . "View") ("Book" "lilypond-book %x" . 
"LaTeX") ("LaTeX" "latex '\\nonstopmode\\input %l'" . "View") ("SmartView" "xdvi %d" . 
"LilyPond") ("View" ... . "LilyPond") ("ViewPS" ... . "LilyPond") ("Midi" ... . 
"LilyPond") ("MidiAll" ... . "LilyPond"
|   custom-initialize-reset(LilyPond-command-alist (\` (("LilyPond" "lilypond-bin %s" 
. "LaTeX") ("TeX" "tex '\\nonstopmode\\input %t'" . "View") ("2Dvi" "lilypond %s" . 
"View") ("2PS" "lilypond -P %s" . "ViewPS") ("2Midi" "lilypond -m %s" . "View") 
("Book" "lilypond-book %x" . "LaTeX") ("LaTeX" "latex '\\nonstopmode\\input %l'" . 
"View") ("SmartView" "xdvi %d" . "LilyPond") ("View" ... . "LilyPond") ("ViewPS" ... . 
"LilyPond") ("Midi" ... . "LilyPond") ("MidiAll" ... . "LilyPond"
|   custom-declare-variable(LilyPond-command-alist (\` (("LilyPond" "lilypond-bin %s" 
. "LaTeX") ("TeX" "tex '\\nonstopmode\\input %t'" . "View") ("2Dvi" "lilypond %s" . 
"View") ("2PS" "lilypond -P %s" . "ViewPS") ("2Midi" "lilypond -m %s" . "View") 
("Book" "lilypond-book %x" . "LaTeX") ("LaTeX" "latex '\\nonstopmode\\input %l'" . 
"View") ("SmartView" "xdvi %d" . "LilyPond") ("View" ... . "LilyPond") ("ViewPS" ... . 
"LilyPond") ("Midi" ... . "LilyPond") ("MidiAll" ... . "LilyPond"))) "AList of 
commands to execute on the current document.\n\nThe key is the name of the command as 
it will be presented to the\nuser, the value is a cons of the command string handed to 
the shell\nafter being expanded, and the next command to be executed upon\nsuccess.  
The expansion is done using the information found in\nLilyPond-expand-list.\n" :group 
LilyPond :type (repeat (cons :tag "Command Item" (string :tag "Key") (cons :tag "How" 
... ...
|   (defcustom LilyPond-command-alist (\` (... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 
...)) "AList of commands to execute on the current document.\n\nThe key is the name of 
the command as it will be presented to the\nuser, the value is a cons of the command 
string handed to the shell\nafter being expanded, and the next command to be executed 
upon\nsuccess.  The expansion is done using the information found 
in\nLilyPond-expand-list.\n" :group (quote LilyPond) :type (quote (repeat ...)))
|   eval-buffer(#> nil "lilypond-mode" nil t)
|   
load-with-code-conversion("h:/usr/pkg/cygwin/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/lilypond-mode.el"
 "lilypond-mode" nil nil)
|   load("lilypond-mode")
|   eval-buffer(# nil "~/.emacs" nil t)
|   lo

Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 2.1.12

2004-01-19 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Nick Busigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've not done anything with lilypond-profile or
> lilypond-login and everything works fine none-the-less.
> What is the reason for sourcing lilypond-profile?

It allows for viewing your typeset score with xdvi, which in
turn makes point&click possible.  Apart from that everything
worked fine for me without sourcing it.

Feri.


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Re: Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 2.1.12

2004-01-19 Thread Nick Busigin
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Ferenc Wagner wrote:

> Binary packages of LilyPond 2.1.9 for Debian Woody are
> available at
> 
> http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/lilypond
> 
> The previous 2.1.6 conditions apply with respect to the
> geometry LaTeX package.  This package is made a little bit
> differently than the previous ones, please report any
> anomalies.  Also do not forget to convert-ly your sources,
> the paperXX includes are gone.  I will try to silence the
> SyntaxWarnings in the next package.
> 
>Thanks to the developers for releasing so fast my old
>   machine can hardly keep up compiling! :)

Hello Feri,

Thanks to you too for keeping the Debian Woody package up to date! 

> Survey of the day:
> 
> * Should I include the required version of geometry.sty?  If
>   yes, how?
>   - as a diversion against tetex-extra
>   - as a Replaces:
>   - one of the above in a new deb
>   - some other way I have no idea of (explain, please).

I manually installed the geometry package as per your earlier
recommendations, so everything works fine here.  Unfortunately I don't
know enough about the Debian packaging methods to make any helpful
suggestions as to how best to deal with the need for the requied new
geometry LaTeX package.

> * Should I make the user shell source lilypond-login or
>   lilypond-profile?  If yes, how?
>   - some way I have no idea of (explain, please).

I've not done anything with lilypond-profile or lilypond-login and
everything works fine none-the-less.   What is the reason for sourcing
lilypond-profile?  (FWIW, I'm running the bash shell).

 Nick

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Re: Dynamics: cresc not correctly typesetted

2004-01-19 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões


Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote:
Hello, Dave (et al.):

I don't like \crescmark too much either, but IMHO something or this sort
is a lot more logical and intuitive than what is being done now.
\cpin, \endcpin?  \dpin, \enddpin?  The fact that "<" can be seen as a
letter C doesn't hurt.  Any better ideas?


Do you not like the existing \< notation?

Just curious,
Kieren.
I love it. And I just wonder how to put cresc. on my music :'(
I have two ready to contribute to mutopia, but without that I have a 
very large < followed by a little other <... thats not correct notation..

Best,
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Debian (Woody) packages for Lilypond 2.1.12

2004-01-19 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Binary packages of LilyPond 2.1.9 for Debian Woody are
available at

http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/lilypond

The previous 2.1.6 conditions apply with respect to the
geometry LaTeX package.  This package is made a little bit
differently than the previous ones, please report any
anomalies.  Also do not forget to convert-ly your sources,
the paperXX includes are gone.  I will try to silence the
SyntaxWarnings in the next package.

   Thanks to the developers for releasing so fast my old
  machine can hardly keep up compiling! :)

Survey of the day:

* Should I include the required version of geometry.sty?  If
  yes, how?
  - as a diversion against tetex-extra
  - as a Replaces:
  - one of the above in a new deb
  - some other way I have no idea of (explain, please).

* Should I make the user shell source lilypond-login or
  lilypond-profile?  If yes, how?
  - some way I have no idea of (explain, please).

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Lilypond v2.1.12 sustain problem?

2004-01-19 Thread Stan Sanderson
The \sustainDown and \sustainUp symbols are on the staffs in v2.1.12. 
There appears to have been a change from v2.1.10.

Following are from the v2.1.12 Tips & Tricks

See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.1/input/test/out-www/lily-2059876733.ly
which includes other anomalies.  (see below)


Picture 1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
I think I'll revert to 2.1.10 for now!

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semi-automatic pagebreaks

2004-01-19 Thread Simon Bailey
hi all,

ok, this one may be fairly complicated to do, but would be a really cool
feature. if it's impossible, feel free to wallop me with a wet fish of your
choosing... :))

in orchestral or band music (at least almost all the stuff i've seen) which
extends over more than two pages, it is customary to insert page breaks only
where the player has at least one bar rest. if i do this manually in lilypond, i
will often end up with weird results. would there be a way for lilypond to
automagically place pagebreaks at convenient locations if
  a) the score will extend over more than three pages
  b) the part in question has something like \pagebreakAtRestOnly in it
i) this command should then be ignored if there is more than one staff on the  
   page...

the second thing which is sort of related to this: if a score is longer than one
page, but only two or three lines longer, then the second page is more than
half-empty. lastpagefill will stretch the space between the systems, but
produces weird results... would it be possible to apply this stretch
automatically to all systems in the piece, thereby filling both (or more) pages
more or less evenly?

i think/realise this would require two runs of lilypond to create reliable
output; i wouldn't actually consider this an inconvenience -- latex needs more
than that for decent sized docs w/indices and table[s] of content/figures/tables...

if these things are feasible, would it be possible to put them on a wishlist? if
not, i can carry on with the manual tweaking. :)

thanks, regards,
simon

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Re: updates

2004-01-19 Thread Simon Bailey
Quoting Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 08:14  AM, Kieren Richard MacMillan 
> wrote:
> >>  2.1.12 offers the new "#(set-staff-size 18)", for example
> >
> > Does this allow different staff sizes per system?
> >
> A cursory investigation suggests that it doesn't, at least in the form 
> below.

pity, that would be a great feature...

regards,
sb

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Re: updates

2004-01-19 Thread Stan Sanderson
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 08:14  AM, Kieren Richard MacMillan 
wrote:


 2.1.12 offers the new "#(set-staff-size 18)", for example
Does this allow different staff sizes per system?

A cursory investigation suggests that it doesn't, at least in the form 
below.

Stan

e.g.

\context Staff = descant
<<
#(set-staff-size 12)
\descantMusic
>>
\context GrandStaff
<<
\context Staff = upperVoices
<<
#(set-staff-size 18)
\sopranoAndAltoMusic
>>
\context Staff = lowerVoices
<<
#(set-staff-size 18)
\tenorAndBassMusic
>>
>>
Thanks,
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Re: lyrics, NoteEdit and Lilypond2.0.2

2004-01-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Joerg Anders wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Suzanne E. Blatt wrote:

 

I found an even easier solution.  In NoteEdit when I export to Lilypond,
I don't click on the 'save beams' option.  That put all my lyrics where
they belonged and saved my slurs so my lyrics do what they should.
   

Perhaps I can shorten this: Next NoteEdit version will always produce

	\property Score.melismaBusyProperties = #'()
 

Silly me, why did I ever mention this ugly workaround that works in this
particular example but means that slurs and ties are not interpreted as 
melismas
when the lyrics are combined with the music.

Please use
\property Score.melismaBusyProperties = #'(melismaBusy slurMelismaBusy 
tieMelismaBusy)

instead, which means that manually inserted beams don't count as 
melismas but that
ties and slurs do.

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Re: Dynamics: cresc not correctly typesetted

2004-01-19 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, Dave (et al.):

I don't like \crescmark too much either, but IMHO something or this 
sort
is a lot more logical and intuitive than what is being done now.

\cpin, \endcpin?  \dpin, \enddpin?  The fact that "<" can be seen as a
letter C doesn't hurt.  Any better ideas?
Do you not like the existing \< notation?

Just curious,
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Re: Cygwin, Melody with chords

2004-01-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
An alternative to the answer you have already received is to run setup.exe
again and select the tetex-base package (you already have the tetex-tiny
package wich is an (unfortunately too) tiny version of tetex-base).
I think I have sent a bug report on tetex-tiny several months ago.
  /Mats

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Hi everybody, 

I just installed the latest stable cygwin-based lilypond, 
and together with convert-ly, despite a few glitches here and 
there - when  \grace is commented out, for instance - I must 
say the transition went pretty well, even when dealing with 
intricate piano scores. 

It just seemed to fail on simple melody + chords stuff, claiming 
there is a cmss7 font that cannot be found.  

I removed all tfm and pk files, and it still did not work. Supposing 
that there must have been a major difference between versions, 
I tried to engrave the "melody-with-chords" sample that can be downloaded 
from the lilypond web site, but the version of lilypond I've got 
also failed to produce anything, still with the same error message. 

I guess I must have done something wrong 

Any clue ? 

Cheers, 

Darius. 

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Re: Custom dynamics and D.C.

2004-01-19 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Alberto" == Alberto Manuel Brandao Simoes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Alberto> BTW, do not tell me 2.0.1 and 2.1.x will have
Alberto> incompatible syntaxes :-|

They will, in some sense; not necessarily in the area you're
discussing.  The developers have gotten much more  consistent about
making convert-ly  handle the syntax differences, so if you don't have
one of the differences that's not being converted, it isn't that big
of a deal to jump forward versions.  Going back is another story,
however.  So I wouldn't move to 2.1.x until you're sure it's stable
enough for your application.

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Brace before stanzas

2004-01-19 Thread qp2zktid60001
Hi,

Is there a way to put a bracket before two lines (stanzas) of lyrics, after the 
singer's name but before the lyrics?

The singer's name should be vertically centered between the two stanzas.

Imagine a situation where part of a choir music is repeated and there are different 
lyrics for the second repetition.

Something like this:



  ( This is the ly-rics

Ernie (

  ( This is the ly-rics



Thanks

Csaba


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Re: Dynamics: cresc not correctly typesetted

2004-01-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Monday 19 January 2004 08:41, Alberto Simoes wrote:
> Hi!
> I am using a separate context for Dynamics:
>
>  \context PianoStaff  <<
>   \context Staff = up   \secondoUp
>   \context Dynamics = dynamics \secondoDynamics
>   \context Staff = down \secondoDown
>
>
> And I am using \cresc and \endcresc on secondoDynamics but, when
> using it here, lilypond typesets a big < instead of 'cresc.- - - - -
> '
>
> Thanks for any help
> ALb

I think you have made a good point, although this is not exactly what
you meant.

\cresc, \endcresc = cresc.- - - - 
\decresc, \enddecresc = decresc.- - - 
\dim, \enddim = dim.- - - 

\crescmark, \endcrescmark = < 
\dimmark | \decrescmark, \enddimmark | \enddecrescmark = >

I don't like \crescmark too much either, but IMHO something or this sort
is a lot more logical and intuitive than what is being done now.

\cpin, \endcpin?  \dpin, \enddpin?  The fact that "<" can be seen as a
letter C doesn't hurt.  Any better ideas?  daveA

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Re: updates

2004-01-19 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, all --

Stan wrote:

I am amazed at the frequency of updates, and at the fact that
each seems to include a feature which was on the wish list.
Agreed! Kudos and thanks to the team!

 2.1.12 offers the new "#(set-staff-size 18)", for example
Does this allow different staff sizes per system?

e.g.

\context Staff = descant
<<
#(set-staff-size 12)
\descantMusic
>>
\context GrandStaff
<<
\context Staff = upperVoices
<<
#(set-staff-size 18)
\sopranoAndAltoMusic
>>
\context Staff = lowerVoices
<<
#(set-staff-size 18)
\tenorAndBassMusic
>>
>>
Thanks,
Kieren.


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Dynamics: cresc not correctly typesetted

2004-01-19 Thread Alberto Simoes
Hi!
I am using a separate context for Dynamics:
\context PianoStaff  <<
\context Staff = up   \secondoUp
\context Dynamics = dynamics \secondoDynamics
\context Staff = down \secondoDown
>>
And I am using \cresc and \endcresc on secondoDynamics but, when using
it here, lilypond typesets a big < instead of 'cresc.- - - - - '
Thanks for any help
ALb
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