Re: having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond
Paul Scott wrote: Peter Dobratz wrote: Hi all, I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days. Looking over some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date by now). It's not clear how recent a version you want. I am running Debian unstable and I use the latest version, now 2.1.21, thanks to either Pedro Kroeger or Ferenc Wagner. This information is available by simply going to the Lily web site, http://lilypond.org/web/index.html and clicking on Download here under the version you want under 'News'. You will find the lines for your sources.list so you can apt-get. I should add that whenever you find a version that is solid enough you might save the deb from your /var/cache/apt/archives so you can go back to if something that you need breaks in the next version. I am currently holding onto 2.1.14 until I am sure that 2.1.21 will do what I need. The intermediate versions were broken for something I needed. Paul ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond
Peter Dobratz wrote: Hi all, I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days. Looking over some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I see \version 1.6.6 in the header. Right now I'm at the point where I want to get back to working on the sources and I can't seem to find a suitable Lilypond install. Let me first of all congratulate all the developers on all their hard work. Often Lilypond improves too fast for me to keep up and with every new version there are quite a lot of useful new features. My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date by now). It's not clear how recent a version you want. I am running Debian unstable and I use the latest version, now 2.1.21, thanks to either Pedro Kroeger or Ferenc Wagner. This information is available by simply going to the Lily web site, http://lilypond.org/web/index.html and clicking on Download here under the version you want under 'News'. You will find the lines for your sources.list so you can apt-get. Paul Scott ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond
Hi all, I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days. Looking over some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I see \version 1.6.6 in the header. Right now I'm at the point where I want to get back to working on the sources and I can't seem to find a suitable Lilypond install. Let me first of all congratulate all the developers on all their hard work. Often Lilypond improves too fast for me to keep up and with every new version there are quite a lot of useful new features. My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date by now). I also have an iBook laptop dual booting to OS X (10.2.8) and Yellow Dog Linux. I just tried to install Fink and upgrade to the correct tree to get Lilypond 2.0.1, but without success. I actually have a copy of Virtual PC for Mac on order and I guess I'll try installing Lilypond for Windows on it (though, I'd be the first to admit that this setup would be one of the most convoluted things ever thought up). I guess my question is, based on my operating systems, what is my best option for installing Lilypond (preferably version 2.0.x)? My next plan right now would be to uninstall the Lilypond 2.1.0 package from my Debian unstable machine and attempt to compile 2.0.3, though I'm not looking forward to dealing with the possible effects of such an action. Thanks, Peter ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ugly slur
Thorkil (et al.): \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0) [...] You actually tell Lily to let the *beginning* of the slur start 1 *something* (I don't know if it's a millimeter, a pixel or something else -- can anyone tell me that?) to the right. The units are staff spaces -- therefore, relative to the scaling of the page. Generically, it might be written as: \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((start-x-offset . start-y-offset) end-x-offset . end-y-offset) Therefore, you could adjust both ends at once, and not only by integer amounts: \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((2.3 . -0.4) 1 . -3.5) And don't forget that you can (and probably do) want to apply this change only to the slur immediately following the command, which is indicated by prefixing the command with '\once': \once \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((2.3 . -0.4) 1 . -3.5) Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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re: ugly slur
Hi there! I'm not very experienced with this command but I'll give it a try: If I understand this command correctly, it'll tell Lily how far away from the notehead or stem the slur will start or end. For instance, if this is the command: \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0) You actually tell Lily to let the *beginning* of the slur start 1 *something* (I don't know if it's a millimeter, a pixel or something else -- can anyone tell me that?) to the right. (Thus not AT the note but a little later) If the command is as follows: \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 1 . 0) you tell Lily to let the *end* of the slur end 1 more to the right than normal. Below I added a little example file which you should compile with Lily to see the result of what I'm talking about. ===START OF FILE=== \score{ \notes \relative c' { \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 5) 0 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . 5) c( d e f)\break \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 1 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . -5) 0 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((-1 . 0) 0 . 0) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . -5) c( d e f) \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) -1 . 0) c( d e f) } } ===END OF FILE=== Hopefully this helps you! With kind regards, Thorkil Wolvendand At 18:36 12-2-04 +0100, you wrote: Mats, Thanks a lot for your most quick reply. I have already used padding to move around dinamycs and fingering symbols. However, I have not been able to figure out how to do the same thing with slurs. When I look at the Lily internals manual I come across attachment-offset (pair) cons of offsets, '(LEFT-offset . RIGHT-offset). This offset is added to the attachments to prevent ugly slurs. [fixme: we need more documentation here]. . Default value: '((0 . 0) 0 . 0) and I have not been able to figure out how to use the \property Voice.Slur \set command in this case. Does anyone have any experience with this ?. Thanks again. Regards, Alfredo ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Music Formatting Help
> "Kevin" == Kevin DeHoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kevin> 4) I would need a chart at the very beginning of the music Kevin> to indicate all the bells used. This would be a single Kevin> line, bass and treble clef staves, whole notes with no bar Kevin> lines, and a forced line break at the end. I've been wondering whether the ambitus_engraver could give something a little like this for lever harp players, indicating all the accidentals used in the piece. I was thinking of a "chord" rather than a line. That is, if a piece is in a key signature with one flat, and there are f sharps and e flats, something like the ambitus would appear with an f sharp and an e flat. Lever harp players would also want the normal ambitus as well, so they know whether they need to do more arranging to avoid running of the end of their harp. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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re: ugly slur
Mats, Thanks a lot for your most quick reply. I have already used padding to move around dinamycs and fingering symbols. However, I have not been able to figure out how to do the same thing with slurs. When I look at the Lily internals manual I come across attachment-offset (pair) cons of offsets, '(LEFT-offset . RIGHT-offset). This offset is added to the attachments to prevent ugly slurs. [fixme: we need more documentation here]. . Default value: '((0 . 0) 0 . 0) and I have not been able to figure out how to use the \property Voice.Slur \set command in this case. Does anyone have any experience with this ?. Thanks again. Regards, Alfredo ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Music Formatting Help
I am trying to arrange a piece for handbells, and have run into some serious formatting issues in terms of exactly where things have to go. I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand in figuring out whether the following was even possible in lilypond, and if it is, setting it up. 1) (Most important) Any given voice has to be able to automatically split staves, with *any* middle C or below being in the bass clef, and *anything* above being in the treble, even if it splits chords across the staff. 2) The above property should be applicable to transposed music, no matter what key it is transposed to (i.e. they can't be manual staff switches). 3) Any time a voice switches staffs, it has to be noted (all staff switches need to be followed) 4) I would need a chart at the very beginning of the music to indicate all the bells used. This would be a single line, bass and treble clef staves, whole notes with no bar lines, and a forced line break at the end. If anyone could give me a hand with this, or even let me know that it can't be done, I would be very appreciative. -Kevin ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ugly slur
This is certainly an example where the default layout from LilyPond looks fairly ugly, I send a copy of this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, this example will look much better if you use \slurDown to force the slur below the notes. In general if you have collisions with dynamics, rehearsal marks or fingerings, for example, I mostly prefer to move those instead of the slur. The magic property to use then is called 'padding' and you will find lots of examples of how to apply it if you search the mailing list archives. /Mats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding my request for the tutorial on slurs, the following code \include "paper23.ly" \paper { linewidth = 455.244096\pt } \version "2.0.1" \score { \notes \new Staff { \time 3/4 \relative c'' { d8-5( \f c b c a b c b a b g a b d c b a g a-2 g-1 fis-3 e d4) } } \paper { } } produces a slur which crosses over the fingering marks (see enclosed file clashing- slur.pdf). And I would like to move a little down the left tip and a little up the right tip. Thanks again for your help. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
re: re: vanishing slur ? note with two stems ? Follow up
Dear Mats, Thank you ever so much for your help. Your comments have been very enlightening and your code clean and efficient. I would have sweared that I had tried << g4 \\ g >> for the note with two stems, something that I had found googling, but I must have done something wrong when trying it because it certainly works. Thanks again. My abuse of \stemDown and \stemUp comes from the fact that I am actually copying from an old photocopy and I am trying to reproduce it as it was. Regarding my request for the tutorial on slurs, the following code \include "paper23.ly" \paper { linewidth = 455.244096\pt } \version "2.0.1" \score { \notes \new Staff { \time 3/4 \relative c'' { d8-5( \f c b c a b c b a b g a b d c b a g a-2 g-1 fis-3 e d4) } } \paper { } } produces a slur which crosses over the fingering marks (see enclosed file clashing- slur.pdf). And I would like to move a little down the left tip and a little up the right tip. Thanks again for your help. Regards, Alfredo Navarro The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. File information --- File: clashing-slur.pdf Date: 12 Feb 2004, 13:06 Size: 12391 bytes. Type: Unknown clashing-slur.pdf Description: Binary data ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Markup Text
Lyle Raymond wrote: Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets: r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~ The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot. I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff. The manual, as I've often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case. You didn't say what version you were using. Putting the following before the markup will work in most versions *except* 2.1.15 through 2.1.20: \property Voice.TextScript \override #'padding = #2.5 Of course change 2.5 to what you need. This affects both above and below. Paul Scott ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Markup Text
Please when you find a place where the documentation is 'unhelpful' add to the wiki so that it will be more helpfule in the future. The only other recourse is to learn the info tex or whatever its called which I may never have time to learn. I personally am starting to do this, but thankfully less and less as the documentation gets better and better. Lets use that Wiki gang! Aaron Lyle Raymond wrote: Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets: r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~ The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot. I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff. The manual, as I've often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Markup Text
Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets: r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~ The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot. I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff. The manual, as I've often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user