Re: having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Scott
Paul Scott wrote:

Peter Dobratz wrote:

Hi all,

I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days.  Looking over
some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I

My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version
available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date
by now). 

It's not clear how recent a version you want.  I am running Debian 
unstable and I use the latest version, now 2.1.21, thanks to either 
Pedro Kroeger or Ferenc Wagner.  This information is available by 
simply going to the Lily web site, http://lilypond.org/web/index.html 
and clicking on Download here under the version you want under 
'News'.  You will find the lines for your sources.list so you can 
apt-get.
I should add that whenever you find a version that is solid enough you 
might save the deb from your /var/cache/apt/archives so you can go back 
to if something that you need breaks in the next version.  I am 
currently holding onto 2.1.14 until I am sure that 2.1.21 will do what I 
need.  The intermediate versions were broken for something I needed.

Paul



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Re: having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Scott
Peter Dobratz wrote:

Hi all,

I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days.  Looking over
some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I
see \version 1.6.6 in the header.  Right now I'm at the point where I
want to get back to working on the sources and I can't seem to find a
suitable Lilypond install.  Let me first of all congratulate all the
developers on all their hard work.  Often Lilypond improves too fast
for me to keep up and with every new version there are quite a lot of
useful new features.
My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version
available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date
by now).
 

It's not clear how recent a version you want.  I am running Debian 
unstable and I use the latest version, now 2.1.21, thanks to either 
Pedro Kroeger or Ferenc Wagner.  This information is available by simply 
going to the Lily web site, http://lilypond.org/web/index.html and 
clicking on Download here under the version you want under 'News'.  You 
will find the lines for your sources.list so you can apt-get.

Paul Scott





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having trouble finding a packaged version of Lilypond

2004-02-12 Thread Peter Dobratz
Hi all,

I first started using Lilypond during the 1.4.x days.  Looking over
some of my sources that I was in the middle of updating for Mutopia I
see \version 1.6.6 in the header.  Right now I'm at the point where I
want to get back to working on the sources and I can't seem to find a
suitable Lilypond install.  Let me first of all congratulate all the
developers on all their hard work.  Often Lilypond improves too fast
for me to keep up and with every new version there are quite a lot of
useful new features.

My primary system is Debian Unstable (i386), but the only version
available in the archive is 2.1.0 (which I assume is quite out of date
by now).

I also have an iBook laptop dual booting to OS X (10.2.8) and Yellow
Dog Linux.  I just tried to install Fink and upgrade to the correct
tree to get Lilypond 2.0.1, but without success.

I actually have a copy of Virtual PC for Mac on order and I guess I'll
try installing Lilypond for Windows on it (though, I'd be the first to
admit that this setup would be one of the most convoluted things ever
thought up).

I guess my question is, based on my operating systems, what is my best
option for installing Lilypond (preferably version 2.0.x)?  My next
plan right now would be to uninstall the Lilypond 2.1.0 package from
my Debian unstable machine and attempt to compile 2.0.3, though I'm
not looking forward to dealing with the possible effects of such an
action.


Thanks,
Peter



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Re: ugly slur

2004-02-12 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Thorkil (et al.):

\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0) 
[...]
You actually tell Lily to let the *beginning* of the slur start 1 
*something*
(I don't know if it's a millimeter, a pixel or something else --
can anyone tell me that?) to the right.
The units are staff spaces -- therefore, relative to the scaling of the 
page.

Generically, it might be written as:

\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((start-x-offset . 
start-y-offset) end-x-offset . end-y-offset)

Therefore, you could adjust both ends at once, and not only by integer 
amounts:

\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((2.3 . -0.4) 1 . 
-3.5)

And don't forget that you can (and probably do) want to apply this 
change only to the slur immediately following the command, which is 
indicated by prefixing the command with '\once':

\once \property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((2.3 . -0.4) 
1 . -3.5)

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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re: ugly slur

2004-02-12 Thread Thorkil Wolvendans


Hi there!
I'm not very experienced with this command but I'll give it a try:
If I understand this command correctly, it'll tell Lily how far away from
the notehead or stem the slur will start or end.
For instance, if this is the command:
\property Voice.Slur \set
#'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0)
You actually tell Lily to let the *beginning* of the slur start 1
*something* (I don't know if it's a millimeter, a pixel or something else
-- can anyone tell me that?) to the right. (Thus not AT the note but a
little later)
If the command is as follows:
\property Voice.Slur \set
#'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 1 . 0)
you tell Lily to let the *end* of the slur end 1 more to the right
than normal.
Below I added a little example file which you should compile with Lily to
see the result of what I'm talking about.
===START OF FILE===
\score{
 \notes \relative c' {
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . 0)
  c( d e f)
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 5) 0 . 0)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((1 . 0) 0 . 0)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . 5) 
  c( d e f)\break 
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 1 . 0)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . -5) 0 . 0)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((-1 . 0) 0 . 0)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) 0 . -5)
  c( d e f)
  
\property Voice.Slur \set #'attachment-offset = #' ((0 . 0) -1 . 0)
  c( d e f)
 }
}
===END OF FILE===

Hopefully this helps you!
With kind regards,
Thorkil Wolvendand

At 18:36 12-2-04 +0100, you wrote:
 
Mats, 
Thanks a lot for your most quick reply. I have already used padding to
move around dinamycs and fingering symbols. However, I have not been able
to figure out how to do the same thing with slurs. When I look at the
Lily internals manual I come across 
attachment-offset
(pair)  
cons of offsets, '(LEFT-offset . RIGHT-offset). This offset is added to the attachments to prevent ugly slurs. [fixme: we need more documentation here]. . Default value: '((0 . 0) 0 . 0) 
and I have not been able to figure out how to use the  
\property Voice.Slur \set command 
in this case. 
Does anyone have any experience with this ?. 
Thanks again.
Regards, 
Alfredo  
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Re: Music Formatting Help

2004-02-12 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Kevin" == Kevin DeHoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kevin> 4) I would need a chart at the very beginning of the music
Kevin> to indicate all the bells used.  This would be a single
Kevin> line, bass and treble clef staves, whole notes with no bar
Kevin> lines, and a forced line break at the end.

I've been wondering whether the ambitus_engraver could give something
a little like this for lever harp players, indicating all the
accidentals used in the piece.  I was thinking of a "chord" rather than
a line.  That is, if a piece is in a key signature with one flat, and
there are f sharps and e flats, something like the ambitus would
appear with an f sharp and an e flat.  Lever harp players would also
want the normal ambitus as well, so they know whether they need to do
more arranging to avoid running of the end of their harp.

-- 
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2004-02-12 Thread Aaauto1327




 

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 The active ingredient in CIALIS 
 tablets, tadalafil, belongs to a group of medicines 
 called phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors. Following sexual 
 stimulation CIALIS 
 helps the blood vessels in your penis 
 to relax which allows the blood flow into your penis. 
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re: ugly slur

2004-02-12 Thread navarro



Mats, 


Thanks a lot for your most quick reply. I have already used padding to move around 
dinamycs and fingering symbols. However, I have not been able to figure out how to 
do the same thing with slurs. When I look at the Lily internals manual I come across 


attachment-offset (pair)  
cons of offsets, '(LEFT-offset 
. RIGHT-offset). This offset is added to the 
attachments to prevent ugly slurs. [fixme: we need more documentation 
here]. . Default value: '((0 . 0) 0 . 0) 
 


and I have not been able to figure out how to use the  


\property Voice.Slur \set command 


in this case. 


Does anyone have any experience with this ?. 


Thanks again.
Regards, 


Alfredo  



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Music Formatting Help

2004-02-12 Thread Kevin DeHoff
I am trying to arrange a piece for handbells, and have run into some serious 
formatting issues in terms of exactly where things have to go.  I was 
wondering if anyone could give me a hand in figuring out whether the 
following was even possible in lilypond, and if it is, setting it up.

1) (Most important) Any given voice has to be able to automatically split
staves, with *any* middle C or below being in the bass clef, and *anything*
above being in the treble, even if it splits chords across the staff.
2) The above property should be applicable to transposed music, no matter
what key it is transposed to (i.e. they can't be manual staff switches).
3) Any time a voice switches staffs, it has to be noted (all staff switches
need to be followed)
4) I would need a chart at the very beginning of the music to indicate all the
bells used.  This would be a single line, bass and treble clef staves, whole 
notes with no bar lines, and a forced line break at the end.

If anyone could give me a hand with this, or even let me know that it can't be 
done, I would be very appreciative.

-Kevin


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Re: ugly slur

2004-02-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
This is certainly an example where the default layout from LilyPond
looks fairly ugly, I send a copy of this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In fact, this example will look much better if you use \slurDown to
force the slur below the notes.
In general if you have collisions with dynamics, rehearsal marks or
fingerings, for example, I mostly prefer to move those instead of the
slur. The magic property to use then is called 'padding' and you will
find lots of examples of how to apply it if you search the mailing list
archives.
   /Mats

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding my request for the tutorial on slurs, the following code

\include "paper23.ly"

\paper  {
  linewidth = 455.244096\pt
}
\version "2.0.1"

\score {
\notes
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
 \relative c'' {
d8-5( \f  c b c a b
  c b a b g a
  b d c b a g 
  a-2 g-1 fis-3 e d4) 
}
}
  \paper { }
}

produces a slur which crosses over the fingering marks (see enclosed file clashing-
slur.pdf). And I would like to move a little down the left tip and a little up the 
right tip.
Thanks again for your help.


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re: re: vanishing slur ? note with two stems ? Follow up

2004-02-12 Thread navarro
Dear Mats, 

Thank you ever so much for your help. Your comments have been very enlightening 
and your code clean and efficient. I would have sweared that I had tried << g4 \\ g >> 
for the note with two stems, something that I had found googling, but I must have 
done something wrong when trying it because it certainly works. Thanks again.
My abuse of \stemDown and \stemUp comes from the fact that I am actually copying 
from an old photocopy and I am trying to reproduce it as it was.

Regarding my request for the tutorial on slurs, the following code

\include "paper23.ly"

\paper  {
  linewidth = 455.244096\pt
}

\version "2.0.1"

\score {
\notes
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
 \relative c'' {
d8-5( \f  c b c a b
  c b a b g a
  b d c b a g 
  a-2 g-1 fis-3 e d4) 
}
}
  \paper { }
}


produces a slur which crosses over the fingering marks (see enclosed file clashing-
slur.pdf). And I would like to move a little down the left tip and a little up the 
right tip.

Thanks again for your help.


Regards,

Alfredo Navarro

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Re: Markup Text

2004-02-12 Thread Paul Scott
Lyle Raymond wrote:

Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets:

r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~

The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot.  
I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff.  The manual, as I've 
often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case.
 

You didn't say what version you were using.

Putting the following before the markup will work in most versions 
*except* 2.1.15 through 2.1.20:

\property Voice.TextScript \override #'padding = #2.5

Of course change 2.5 to what you need.  This affects both above and below.

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Re: Markup Text

2004-02-12 Thread Aaron
Please when you find a place where the documentation is 'unhelpful' add 
to the wiki so that it will be more helpfule in the future. The only 
other recourse is to learn the info tex or whatever its called which I 
may never have time to learn.

I personally am starting to do this, but thankfully less and less as the 
documentation gets better and better.

Lets use that Wiki gang!
Aaron
Lyle Raymond wrote:
Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets:

r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~

The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot.  
I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff.  The manual, as I've 
often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case.





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Markup Text

2004-02-12 Thread Lyle Raymond
Here's a snippet of code from a turnaround in one of my jazz lead sheets:

r8_\markup "Last Time: repeat final 4 bars" a b c cis a' aes g~

The problem here is that my text is running into stems and beams and whatnot.  
I need to move it so it's farther beneath the staff.  The manual, as I've 
often noticed, is a bit unhelpful in this case.





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