Re: Starting music with grace note problems

2004-08-19 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 19 August 2004 00.57, Michael Lakes wrote:
 Hi,

 I posted this in the bugs, but it seems users list is more active and I'm
 currently looking for a workaround :)

AFAICT, no mail has arrived in lily-bugs.

 The piece of lilypond code I have below contain two bugs.  When the guitar
 starts with a grace note, the instrument name Piano will not be printed.

Certainly a bug. I added it to our database.

 Also the bass clef for the piano will be change to a treble clef then
 follow by a bass clef.  

This is due to the way time works in lilypond. Workaround: Add a skip grace 
after the clef change, like
\new Staff { \notes {\clef bass \grace s8 c1}}

 In regard to grace notes, is possible to
 put a line through the flag like the acciaccatura or some way to adjust the
 slur of the acciaccatura?

Try \override Stem #'stroke-style = #grace

 P.S. I also find some other weird problems with grace/acciaccatura notes
 but that's probably for another post :-)

you're welcome to post them.. We're always happy for bug reports.

Erik


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Re: Compiling Lilypond-2.3.11 on Slackware 10

2004-08-19 Thread R S Ananda Murthy
Finally it worked!
In Slackware 10 keeping lilypond-profile.sh in /etc/profile.d/ does not  
work. To make it work I did the following:

Copied buildcripts/out/lilypond-profile to /usr/bin
Then, I appended the following line:
source /usr/bin/lilypond-profile
to the end of /etc/profile. Logout and login. Now Lilypond-2.3.11 is  
working fine. Strangely, this is working even for csh without using  
lilypond-login.

Thanks Mr. Mats Bengtsson for your patient help.
Anand
On 08/18/2004 08:37:35 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
OK, now you have managed to source the file.
However, it seems that your installation of teTeX doesn't
behave as it should.
What does the following sequence of commands return?
unset TEXMF
kpsexpand \$TEXMF
kpsewhich texmf.cnf
Also, you should try to figure out why you didn't manage to
source the file earlier.
   /Mats
R S Ananda Murthy wrote:
On 08/18/2004 06:48:28 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
First of all, I hope that we are talking about the file
buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile
and NOT
buildscripts/lilypond-profile.sh
To help us understand what's going on, try the following:
- Go to the lilypond-* directory where you run the compilation
- Run the command
set -x
  this will make bash echo every line it executes
- Run (I hope you have noted the initial dot followed by a space)
. buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile
I was missing the starting . and space!
- Reset bash to normal behaviour by running
set +x
Send the resulting output to the mailing list.
  /Mats

This is the resulting output:
+ . buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile
++ '[' -n '' ']'
+++ basename bash
++ '[' -z '' -a bash = lilypond-profile ']'
++ '[' -z '' ']'
+++ echo /usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11
+++ sed 's!//!/!g'
++ datadir=/usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11
+++ echo '{/usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11,}'
+++ grep /usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11
++ '[' -z '{/usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11,}' ']'
After this if I now type the command printenv TEXMF I get:
+ printenv TEXMF
{/usr/share/lilypond/2.3.11,}
Anand
R S Ananda Murthy wrote:

On 08/18/2004 01:48:08 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I'm cross-posting to lilypond-user, to increase the chance
that you get help from some Slackware user.
R S Ananda Murthy wrote:
On 08/17/2004 08:45:10 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Did you start a new shell first?


Yes.

I was wrong, you probably have to logout/login again to
make bash read the profile files. Hopefully this helps
What does the following command return:
printenv TEXMF

Nothing.

Which indicates that the lilypond-profile file wasn't
read.
If you are eager to get started (waiting for some Slackware
user on the list to provide more help), just run
. /.../lilypond-profile
in the shell where you want to run LilyPond.

I did this after making lilypond-profile executable.  But after   
this,  if I do printenv TEXMF I  get nothing. So, I feel there is   
something  wrong in lilypond-profile. I think, if this is set  
right,  Lilypond- 2.3.11 may work properly on Slackware 10.

In another mail, you wrote
Hello,
While invoking Lilypond, what sould be the following environment
variables:
TEXMF
LILYPONDPREFIX
LANG
How to set these variables? Can anybody give some examples?

If you did 'make install', you should leave LILYPONDPREFIX unset.
The same goes for LANG, unless you want your programs to speak
some other language than english. If you try to set the TEXMF
variable yourself, it's very likely to get wrong, that's why
we have the lilypond-profile file.
   /Mats


R S Ananda Murthy wrote:
On 08/17/2004 08:07:33 PM, R S Ananda Murthy wrote:
I am hereby placing this discussion in the mailing list.
Anand
On 08/17/2004 03:51:01 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Please keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the
benefit of yourself since you get access to the collected
expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who
experience
similar problems. Feel free to quote my answer below if you
wish.

R S Ananda Murthy wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for your mail. Now Lilypond-2.3.11 is running on
Slackware   10! I  installed mftraced ec fonts. I have done
texhash. But when  I  do

lilypond test.py
I get the following message:
Now processing `test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... error: can't find `feta20.afm'
Music font has not been installed properly.  Aborting
I have not understood what I should do with the scripts
lilypond-profile
lilypond-login
I am using bash. Could you please help.


I don't know how things are setup in Slackware. On RedHat
systems,
there's a directory /etc/profile.d/, where you can put the   
file
lilypond-profile (renamed to lilypond-profile.sh) so it will   
be
automatically read as soon as you start a new shell.
Otherwise, you can add a line
. /whatever/path/to/the/file/lilypond-profile
in your own ~/.profile

   /Mats



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Hello,
As mentioned above, I copied lilypond-profile.sh into /etc/   
profile. d.  

Characters supported by TeX but not in Latin 1

2004-08-19 Thread jxbardant
Hello to all

I'm trying to typeset a Turkish song but I have some trouble with lyrics.
Turkish uses the following letters which are absent from Latin 1:
- s cedilla (TeX \cs)
- dotless i (\i)
- g with half circle (\ug)
- capital I with dot (\.I)

It seems I can't use TeX-like sequences like \ss, etc...
I didn't succeed either in using \char.

If I replace those characters with their ASCII equivalent (dotless i with i for 
instance) and edit later the generated TeX file to put back the Turkish characters I 
can get the result I want. This shows that the characters I want to use do exist in 
the lyrics and title fonts. But this method is really difficult to use since the 
lyrics are broken down in syllables and scattered everywhere in the file, plus if I 
change anything in the sore I have to do it again.

Is there another way to use those characters in Lilypond ?

TIA

JX Bardant



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Re: Characters supported by TeX but not in Latin 1

2004-08-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As long as you use version 2.2.x or earlier, it's just to
replace each backslash by a double backslash if you want
to use the TeX commands:
\\cs \\i \\ug \\.I
In 2.3.x, the answer is different since TeX isn't used to
generate the output.
   /Mats
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello to all
I'm trying to typeset a Turkish song but I have some trouble with lyrics.
Turkish uses the following letters which are absent from Latin 1:
- s cedilla (TeX \cs)
- dotless i (\i)
- g with half circle (\ug)
- capital I with dot (\.I)
It seems I can't use TeX-like sequences like \ss, etc...
I didn't succeed either in using \char.
If I replace those characters with their ASCII equivalent (dotless i with i for 
instance) and edit later the generated TeX file to put back the Turkish characters I 
can get the result I want. This shows that the characters I want to use do exist in 
the lyrics and title fonts. But this method is really difficult to use since the 
lyrics are broken down in syllables and scattered everywhere in the file, plus if I 
change anything in the sore I have to do it again.
Is there another way to use those characters in Lilypond ?
TIA
JX Bardant

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Shifton, please explain

2004-08-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Please explain, what this sentence in the manual means, because I just 
can't understand it, just as if it weren't English.

The following commands specify in what chords of the current voice 
should be shifted: the outer voice has \shiftOff, and the inner voices 
have \shiftOn, \shiftOnn, etc.
\shiftOn, \shiftOnn, \shiftOnnn, \shiftOff.

Thanks,
Bert
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kpathsea

2004-08-19 Thread Ren Bastian
Hello,

I try to install lilypond-2.2.5 on a debian.

./configure prints an ERROR message : please install required programs :
kpathsea 

but 
kpsepath  kpsestat  kpsetool  kpsewhich kpsexpand
work.

What is missing ?

Thanks
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Re: Problems with drum score

2004-08-19 Thread Patrick Stanistreet
Put out an example on the list of the
grace note problem.  I think you are
saying the midi output timing is
off.
What player and system are you using?
I have grace notes on 2.3.11 typeset
scores and the midi output sounds ok to me.
I am using version 2.3.11 and you may have
already worked it out but here goes.
Chords in 2.3 and probably 2.2 need to
have the note timing outside the brackets
 cymc sn 16
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Re: minimumVerticalExtent.ly again

2004-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
  Anyway, how can I solve my problem (this is, changing the default
  distance on the second page?  Currently, the only solution I'm
  aware of is to embed two \score's within one \book.
 
 I remember answering this one earlier.  You can use the hack in
 piano-staff-distance.ly - setting minimum-Y-extent instead of
 forced-distance.

Urgh.  This example produces *ugly* output!  I've replaced the first
note in the second bar with `d', and I get the result below.


 Werner
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Re: minimumVerticalExtent.ly again

2004-08-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 I've replaced the first note in the second bar with `d', and I get
 the result below.

Hrmph.  I thought that PNG-attachments are allowed for people
subscribed to lilypond-user or lilypond-devel.

Here it is.


Werner


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