Re: Where are the Bash help files
C. Burton wrote: > I need to see the Help files for program Bash.exe .What I have been > able to find is OK so far, but I need all of the information. From > the starting point, opening the dos window and typing bash --help does > display a screen of information. But it does not give me tenough time > to read the information, and I think there may be more complete > information somewhere. I need to know how to access the bash help files. Most Cygwin programs are documented in man pages, info pages or both. Open a Cygwin bash prompt and type man bash or info bash To see the --help information a page at a time, pipe it through less, like this: bash --help | less You can also buy books about bash. A simple search for bash at amazon.com turns up some interesting candidates, and I can recommend the O'Reilly book by Newham & Rosenblatt. -- Daniel Ashton PGP key available http://Daniel.AshtonFam.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ChamberMusicWeekend.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 9445142 http://ZephyrBrass.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Where are the Bash help files
I need to see the Help files for program Bash.exe .What I have been able to find is OK so far, but I need all of the information. From the starting point, opening the dos window and typing bash --help does display a screen of information. But it does not give me tenough time to read the information, and I think there may be more complete information somewhere. I need to know how to access the bash help files. Thanks. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics: multiple words to one note?
If you use \lyricsto I think you can put multiple words between " ", and they will be assigned to one note. At least it seems to work here in lilypond 2.2.6 Best regards, Stefaan. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problems with drum score
Hi, I've had problems with scoring drums as well, but different ones. >> 2) Making 'chords' out of drum notes works fine. For example, I can >> write and I will get a cymbal and a snare playing at the same >> time. However, if I try I get the message: >> I can't verify this at the moment because my PC at home is kaput, but I think the correct syntax for chording is duration E.g. 8 Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong... Regards, Ralph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tribaldata.co.uk ...or see what I do in my spare time: www.skelmanthorpeband.org -- "Man who shoot off mouth... expect to lose face." - Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. --- ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fiddle tuning
Thanks for your reply! | Why not fool LilyPond and let the \repeat volta 2{ start before the | tuning indication? That would fool any MIDI converter too! However that is not a big problem. The big problem is that the lilypond file is generated automatically by a script from an ABC source, so I want to be as consistant as possible to prevent manual editing of the .book file. Anyway, it was easy to work around the problem, just inserting a custom \bar, overriding the repeat sign | Just use \fatText, it applies to all text scripts, no matter if you | use ^\markup{...} or just ^"...". Yeah! | Not in a simple way, at least not that I know of. | However, you can always move around objects with the extra-offset property. Too bad. But that was a low-prio anyway. Best regards Erik ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Embedding LateX code into markups
On 8/31/04 2:01 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just add double quotes around the string and replace each backslash with a double backslash: ^\markup{\bold \large "$\\frac{1}{2}$CIII" } /Mats > Walter Hofmeister wrote: >> Lilypond 2.2.5 on Mac OS X 10.3.4 >> >> Hello. I am trying make up an indication for Classic Guitar Barre and >> half-barre indications. For the full barre I am using: >> \markup { \bold \large { C } } and for half-barre: >> \markup { \bold \large { 1/2C } }. These work OK but I would like to >> type-set the fraction like a mathematical 1/2 instead of a text one. I have >> tried \markup { \bold \large { \\$\frac{1}{2}$CIII } } and other variations >> but none seem to work. Could someone tell me how this might be done? Thanks. >> >> Walter Hofmeister >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Excellent! Thanks a bunch Mats. Walter -- End of Forwarded Message ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond supported in jEdit 4.2 final
Hi Bert: Very cool, I just checked it out this morning. I may not have much time for it right now, but I hope to work more with it soon. Beautiful work... Best, dp Bertalan Fodor wrote: Dear LilyPond users, jEdit 4.2 final has come out. The syntax coloring for LilyPond is now integrated, and the plugin for LilyPond (featuring point-and-click DVI viewer, document wizard, tweaking helper and other useful features) can be installed via the Plugin Manager, so no separate installation is needed any more. JEdit and the LilyPondTool plugin especially recommended for Windows users, but it works also on Linux, and gives a good integrated editor. JEdit has a very great expandability feature through BeanShell macros and Velocity templates. The LilyPondTool team is waiting for contributors of sophisticated macros and templates that can ease LilyPond editing. Enjoy! Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem in compilation
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-06/msg00116.html /Mats Prashant Raina wrote: My lilypond files don't compile, and no log is generated. The bash shell doesn't recognize commands like lilypond, lilypond-book, midi2ly, etc. even though the files exist. I have tried reinstalling lilypond and rebooting my computer, but the problem still persists. What is wrong? - Prashant Raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Problem in compilation
My lilypond files don't compile, and no log is generated. The bash shell doesn't recognize commands like lilypond, lilypond-book, midi2ly, etc. even though the files exist. I have tried reinstalling lilypond and rebooting my computer, but the problem still persists. What is wrong? - Prashant Raina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics: multiple words to one note?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robinson P. Tryon 03) writes: > I'm typesetting my college's alma mater (copy from 1908 :-), and I'm > facing a little problem with the lyrics. > > The piece is for TTBB + Piano, and there are three stanzas of lyrics > between a treble and bass clef (tenors and basses). Ah, TTBB! My kind of music! ;-) > The problem is that the lyrics do not match up completely with any > of the parts. The melody is in the 2nd tenor, and in one measure > they hold a dotted half note while everyone else sings "(give a > rouse,)" on shorter notes. In a later measure, the 2nd tenor is the > only part singing "For the sons of ... ". Ah. This is a very normal occurrence in choral music typeset on two staves. (When typeset on one staff per voice, lyrics is usually printed underneath each voice and this problem goes away.) I'll try giving some answers based on my experience with typesetting some (mostly TTBB) music over the years: > Reading the documentation on lyrics, it seems that you can (could?) > specify duration for lyrics: > > - - - - - - - - - - > For example, > >\lyrics { Twin-4 kle4 twin- kle litt- le star2 } > - - - - - - - - - - > > Could I do something like that here? Sure, but... > (Hopefully just for the couple of measures where it doesn't line up > quite right, if that's possible) ...you can't easily have it both ways. Not in any way that I've found yet, anyway. > My other idea (which seems like a hack) was to create an invisible > staff with the correct rythm (g8. g16 g4 g g g8 g ), or a voice with the correct rythm on spacer notes (s8. s16 s4 s s s8 s ...) > and then > link the lyrics to that staff instead of Tenor 2 (or another part). Sure, as long as you want the lyrics in the same place verically. You could also try splitting the tenor 2 voice at the place where this occurs, and there only, thus (warning: untested![1]): % actual tenor 2 music c4 d e2 | % lyrics follow the spacer notes (?) << { s8. s16 s4 s } f2. r4 } >> | % actual tenor 2 continues here g4 a b c | Often, when lyrics split up, you want extra lyrics above the tenor staff or below the bass staff, and things get a bit more complicated. I haven't quite worked out a particularily good way to type up that, yet. > My last idea was to take the non-tenor-2 part out of the lyrics (it > only occurs in one place), and do something like: > > _\markup { \column { < "first verse" "second verse" "third verse" > } } > > (in the appropriate place) > > Although that would probably look about as good as if I used a > sharpie on my computer screen.. :P Yes, that's a problem with that. > Actually I just had a thought -- I could just switch the notes for > tenor 1/tenor 2 for that measure. A little cleanup with \stemUp > \stemDown could make it look right, but then the lyrics would be > correctly appended. Ugly hack internally, but unless anyone has a > better suggestion? :-) It may mess with your MIDI output, too, if you have per-voice MIDI output, but that may not be a concern for you. Yet another technique is to do this: foo = \lyrics { foo bar baz "gazonk. And that other stuff in the other voices." et ce -- te -- ra. } ...but that will not line up well horizontally, to put it mildly. There are probably other ways that involve messing with properties, voice names et cetera. [1] I'm not sitting next to a computer with any recent version of lilypond right now; my idea may not work at all. -- Arvid ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fiddle tuning
Erik Ronström wrote: Hi, I am typesetting an old book of Swedish fiddle tunes. Some of the tunes have a non-standard fiddle tuning, shown as four noteheads without stems just in front of the actual music (much like the ambitius notation). The noteheads are also marked with the note names to the right. I tried the following approach: \notes { \override Stem #'print-function = ##f You could also use \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \override Score.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f but don't try the transparent property here, since it will add an empty space where the time signature would have been. \partial 4 ^\markup { \italic Stämning. } \revert Stem #'print-function \revert Score.TimeSignature #'print-function ... music } This works quite well, however, there are still some problems: 1) The tune has repeats (\repeat volta 2). Normally, the first starting repeat sign is hidden, since it is implicit in the beginning of the tune. Now it is shown, and I can't find a good way to hide it. Why not fool LilyPond and let the \repeat volta 2{ start before the tuning indication? 2) The \markup should space out like \fatText, but I still like to have the \italic option Just use \fatText, it applies to all text scripts, no matter if you use ^\markup{...} or just ^"...". 3) I cannot figure out how to put note names to the right of the note-heads. It would be nice to use the fingering mechanism with \set fingeringOrientations, but can that be done with custom texts? Not in a simple way, at least not that I know of. However, you can always move around objects with the extra-offset property. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SubEthaEdit Highlight Mode?
Hello, Ted: Do any of you Mac OS X users use SubEthaEdit to edit Lilypond files? Yes. If so, have any of you created a syntax highlight mode file for Lilypond? It's got a built in LaTeX syntax option, which is good enough for me. If you need more/different, duplicate and expand the original! Best wishes, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fiddle tuning
Hi, I am typesetting an old book of Swedish fiddle tunes. Some of the tunes have a non-standard fiddle tuning, shown as four noteheads without stems just in front of the actual music (much like the ambitius notation). The noteheads are also marked with the note names to the right. I tried the following approach: \notes { \override Stem #'print-function = ##f \override Score.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f \partial 4 ^\markup { \italic Stämning. } \revert Stem #'print-function \revert Score.TimeSignature #'print-function ... music } This works quite well, however, there are still some problems: 1) The tune has repeats (\repeat volta 2). Normally, the first starting repeat sign is hidden, since it is implicit in the beginning of the tune. Now it is shown, and I can't find a good way to hide it. 2) The \markup should space out like \fatText, but I still like to have the \italic option 3) I cannot figure out how to put note names to the right of the note-heads. It would be nice to use the fingering mechanism with \set fingeringOrientations, but can that be done with custom texts? Regards Erik ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Double scripts and slurs
I think that the PDF file Lilypond 2.3.13 produces with the following input has some layout problem: \relative c''' { c8.->-\trill( b32 c) % 1 c,8.->-\trill( b32 c) % 2 c'8.->-\trill( b32 c) % 3 c,4 } Of the three slur, the first and the third ones seem too high to me. On the other side, I think the second slur is perfect. This is not a big problem, as I can fix this by manually overriding the slur's extra-offset. But I want to know if this is this a precise engraving choice. Maurizio. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: grace notes and slurs
I just tried with version 2.3.13 and the bug seems to have been fixed. For a workaround for version 2.2.x, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-08/msg00277.html /Mats Russ Ross wrote: I've noticed a problem with slurs and grace notes: \version "2.2.5" \score { \notes { \appoggiatura f''8 d''[ \appoggiatura f''8 d''] } \paper { raggedright=##t } } In this example, the slur on the first grace note is printed correctly but the slur on the second grace note is printed down below the beam of the d''. This happens in both 2.2.2 and 2.2.5, the two versions I have available, and it happens using \grace and explicit slur markings, too. I understand that the slurring has been completely redone in 2.3. Can anyone with a 2.3 build please check if this bug has been fixed? If it hasn't I'll report it as a bug. Thanks, Russ ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
grace notes and slurs
I've noticed a problem with slurs and grace notes: \version "2.2.5" \score { \notes { \appoggiatura f''8 d''[ \appoggiatura f''8 d''] } \paper { raggedright=##t } } In this example, the slur on the first grace note is printed correctly but the slur on the second grace note is printed down below the beam of the d''. This happens in both 2.2.2 and 2.2.5, the two versions I have available, and it happens using \grace and explicit slur markings, too. I understand that the slurring has been completely redone in 2.3. Can anyone with a 2.3 build please check if this bug has been fixed? If it hasn't I'll report it as a bug. Thanks, Russ ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tempo marking in 2.2.5
Russ Ross wrote: I'm using the cygwin version of Lilypond 2.2.5 and noticed that tempo markings seem to have gone away since 2.2.2. An unchanged source file that included: \tempo 4=58 printed =58 using 2.2.2 and nothing under 2.2.5. I ran the file through convert-ly in case anything had changed in the syntax, but it didn't do anything. Is this an intentional change or a bug? I can't test it on other versions at the moment since I'm limited to cygwin. I think this bug has been corrected in version 2.2.6. Maurizio. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tempo marking in 2.2.5
If you search the mailing list archives, you will notice that this is a known problem that unfortunately was introduced in version 2.2.5, but has been solved again in version 2.2.6. /Mats Russ Ross wrote: I'm using the cygwin version of Lilypond 2.2.5 and noticed that tempo markings seem to have gone away since 2.2.2. An unchanged source file that included: \tempo 4=58 printed =58 using 2.2.2 and nothing under 2.2.5. I ran the file through convert-ly in case anything had changed in the syntax, but it didn't do anything. Is this an intentional change or a bug? I can't test it on other versions at the moment since I'm limited to cygwin. Thanks, Russ ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tempo marking in 2.2.5
I'm using the cygwin version of Lilypond 2.2.5 and noticed that tempo markings seem to have gone away since 2.2.2. An unchanged source file that included: \tempo 4=58 printed =58 using 2.2.2 and nothing under 2.2.5. I ran the file through convert-ly in case anything had changed in the syntax, but it didn't do anything. Is this an intentional change or a bug? I can't test it on other versions at the moment since I'm limited to cygwin. Thanks, Russ ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: "Python2 has caused an error..."
We have received several reports that the Python program in Cygwin doesn't work correctly on Windows 98 and ME. (Python is used to implement several parts of LilyPond.) However, your email and also http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-08/msg00134.html indicates that it's still possible to get the correct result even though you have to live with some error messages, so you actually bring good news. /Mats Kim Bastin wrote: Downloaded and installed Lilypond for MS Windows. Ran the test with test.ly. Received error message: "Python2 has caused an error in CYGINTL-2.DLL. Python2 will now close." This message appeared about five(!) times, and I dismissed it each time. The test did complete and a pdf of two tied c3's was displayed. But what's with the error messages? I'm running Windows me. Here's the contents of TEST.LOG: lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.5 Running lilypond-bin... Now processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [1] Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... [2] paper output to `test.tex'... Analyzing test.tex... Running ... Running dvips... Running ps2pdf... DVI output to `test.dvi'... PDF output to `test.pdf'... PS output to `test.ps'... Regards Kim Bastin ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Is Upper/Lower case a factor in producing invalid page faults
The Cygwin version of Python doesn't seem to work correctly on Windows 98. Unfortunately, this means that it's not possible to use LilyPond on Windows 98 for he moment, since Python is used in several parts of the program. Wait a second, I searched the mailing lists for Cygwin and found the following: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-08/msg00134.html On the other hand, I also found: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-06/msg00956.html You may want to check this more carefully at www.cygwin.com. /Mats C. Burton wrote: I have Lilypond up and running on a Win98SE system. This was no easy task, and I am still working out the details. When I double click on a Lilypond file, I watch the upper left hand corner of the dos window as the file is being processed. Each time the name PYTHON (caps) appears, there is an invalid page fault error that is generated. The other times, when python appears (small letters) there is no error message. I remember reading somewhere that on some computer systems, as I recall it was UNIX, the file names are case sensitive. So I wonder if PYTHON is generating these errors? What is the cause of these errors and how can they be remedied? The output is to an Adobe Acrobat *.pdf file, like it is now. Coye ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Embedding LateX code into markups
Just add double quotes around the string and replace each backslash with a double backslash: ^\markup{\bold \large "$\\frac{1}{2}$CIII" } /Mats Walter Hofmeister wrote: Lilypond 2.2.5 on Mac OS X 10.3.4 Hello. I am trying make up an indication for Classic Guitar Barre and half-barre indications. For the full barre I am using: \markup { \bold \large { C } } and for half-barre: \markup { \bold \large { 1/2C } }. These work OK but I would like to type-set the fraction like a mathematical 1/2 instead of a text one. I have tried \markup { \bold \large { \\$\frac{1}{2}$CIII } } and other variations but none seem to work. Could someone tell me how this might be done? Thanks. Walter Hofmeister ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Is Upper/Lower case a factor in producing invalid page faults
I have Lilypond up and running on a Win98SE system. This was no easy task, and I am still working out the details. When I double click on a Lilypond file, I watch the upper left hand corner of the dos window as the file is being processed. Each time the name PYTHON (caps) appears, there is an invalid page fault error that is generated. The other times, when python appears (small letters) there is no error message. I remember reading somewhere that on some computer systems, as I recall it was UNIX, the file names are case sensitive. So I wonder if PYTHON is generating these errors? What is the cause of these errors and how can they be remedied? The output is to an Adobe Acrobat *.pdf file, like it is now. Coye ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
SubEthaEdit Highlight Mode?
Do any of you Mac OS X users use SubEthaEdit to edit Lilypond files? If so, have any of you created a syntax highlight mode file for Lilypond? If you have (or maybe if you wish to do it), I'm sure others would be appreciative. I know that I could use jEdit on OS X, but it's not Cocoa (at least it doesn't look very Cocoa-like on the screenshots). If it ain't Cocoa, I'm not likely to use it. Sincerely, Ted S. Sunhede Fulk Tornfalkgatan 50 703 49 Örebro Sweden +46 19-10 75 55 ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user