Re: Accidentals

2005-01-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I can't recall that I have ever seen this convention in printed music.
Are you sure that this is good typesetting practice?
   /Mats
Paul Scott wrote:
Graham Percival wrote:
Here's the problem:
{
  \key e \major
  e''1
  \key a \major
  a'1
\break
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
  \key e \major
  e''1
  \key a \major
  a'1
}
Neither of those key changes look good to me.  Is there some way
to get a key change (from E to A) that only prints a D-natural?
say, something like
\set Staff.printOnlyNeededNaturals = ##t
I vote for that.  Or that might suggest that printKeyCancellation might 
need to be more than a boolean and have values for as many styles as 
seem appropriate.

Paul Scott

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Lilypond-mode and zmacs-regions

2005-01-17 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E8le_Duda?=
Hello,
(Mandrake 10.1/lilypond 2.5.8/XEmacs 21.5.18)
Is there any reasons of lines 1148-1151 in lilypond-mode.el ?
  ;; Use Command on Region even for inactive mark (region).
  (if (string-match XEmacs\\|Lucid emacs-version)
  (setq zmacs-regions nil)
(setq mark-even-if-inactive t))
(setq zmacs-regions nil) overrides the default behaviour of xemacs and others 
modes like auctex,
preventing user to use C-ins : Xemacs complains about owning the primary 
selection.
Regards,
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Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Jonathon A. Landell



Hey.

 Sorry I'm such a noob. 
:0 I'm trying to install this in WinXP Pro, and I got this test log. 
Any ideas what's wrong?

Thanks
-Jonathon

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Re: Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hello Jonathon, list,

 Hey. 
   
 Sorry I'm such a noob.  :0  I'm trying to install this in WinXP Pro, and
 I got this test log.  Any ideas what's wrong? 

It seems you've installed 2.2.5, and the test file you're using is for 2.4...

Try the following example:

\score {
\notes { c d e f g a b }
}

and see if that works better for you...

Also, please read the manual and documentation at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/out-www/

I hope you enjoy using Lilypond!

Christ van Willegen


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Re: Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Karol Langner
On Sunday 16 January 2005 23:29, Jonathon A. Landell wrote:
 Hey.

 Sorry I'm such a noob.  :0  I'm trying to install this in WinXP Pro,
 and I got this test log.  Any ideas what's wrong?

 Thanks
 -Jonathon

Seems to be a problem with the test.ly, not with the program. Maybe you could 
paste you file in a mail?

Karol

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Re: Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Christ van Willegen writes:

 It seems you've installed 2.2.5, and the test file you're using is for 2.4...

Now the question is, why choose to install 2.2.5 instead of 2.4.2?

Jan.

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Re: Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi Jan, Jonathon, rest...


On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:51:47 +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen writes:
 
  It seems you've installed 2.2.5, and the test file you're using is for 
  2.4...
 
 Now the question is, why choose to install 2.2.5 instead of 2.4.2?

I'd like to say 'because Cygwin doesn't offer 2.4.2 yet', but that's
nonsense (I have 2.4.2 on my system at work)  Perhaps Jonathon has
installed it some tim ago, or his cygwin mirror was _way_ behind? The
one I use (ftp.uni-erlangen.de) is up-to-date. Perhaps he needs to
re-run setup to see what it suggests?

Christ


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arpeggio in polyphony

2005-01-17 Thread Albert Einstein
Do someone know what changes must be set to connect arpeggio' brackets
in one? 
I attach files: ly (2.4.2) and gif illustrate problem -- on picture
thera are two
brackets not one as I want; I need one bracket for barre(fret
indication) in guitar.

Albert
attachment: arpeggio.gif

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Re: Location of CFF fonts

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel Johnson
Skip 2.5.7, use 2.5.8 instead.  The emmentaler fonts build/install 
properly in 2.5.8, whereas in 2.5.7 I was only able to use lilypond -b tex.

I hacked together ebuilds for all the dependencies that are newer than 
the latest Gentoo ebuilds, but I built Lily by hand, since FontForge 
generates the sandbox violations.  Apparently FontForge wants to 
periodically write its status to ~/.PfaEdit which of course violates the 
sandbox.

However, I was just now looking at the official Gentoo ebuild for 2.5.2, 
and in the src_compile function, there is a series of 4 addwrite 
statements.  So, as root, you ought to mkdir ~/.PfaEdit (if you don't 
already have such a directory) and then, in your modded ebuild, add an 
addwrite ~/.PfaEdit just underneath the other addwrites.  Addwrite 
basically pokes a specific hole in the sandbox without causing a 
violation.  I haven't tried this yet; let me know if you get it to work.

If that doesn't work, here's how to build by hand:
#!/bin/bash
#set up build dir, download source
mkdir /var/tmp/lilypond-build
cd /var/tmp/lilypond-build
wget http://www.lilypond.org/ftp/v2.5/lilypond-2.5.8.tar.gz
tar xzf lilypond-2.5.8.tar.gz
cd lilypond-2.5.8
#configure and make
export lilypond_datadir=/usr/share/lilypond
export local_lilypond_datadir=/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8
./configure
make || exit 1
# use next line only if you want to install documentation
make web || exit 1
make install || exit 1
# use next line only if you want to install documentation
make out=www web-install || exit 1
#put docs and resources in Gentoo-friendly places
mkdir -p /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out
cp buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out/
cp buildscripts/out/lilypond-login 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out/
cp buildscripts/out/lilypond-clean-fonts 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out/
cp buildscripts/out/lilypond-words 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out/
mkdir -p /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/elisp/out
cp elisp/*.el /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/elisp/
cp elisp/out/lilypond-words.el /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/elisp/out/
mkdir -p /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/vim/out
cp vim/out/lilypond-words.vim /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/vim/out/
cp vim/lilypond*.vim /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/vim/
cp vim/vimrc /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/vim/
mkdir -p /usr/share/doc/lilypond/html
# use next line only if you want to install documentation
mv /usr/local/share/doc/lilypond/2.5.8 /usr/share/doc/lilypond
cp AUTHORS.txt /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp COPYING /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp DEDICATION /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp INSTALL.txt /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp NEWS.txt /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp README.txt /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp ROADMAP /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp THANKS /usr/share/doc/lilypond/
cp VERSION /usr/share/doc/lilypond/

#Finally, perform post-install housecleaning
. /usr/share/lilypond/2.5.8/buildscripts/out/clean-fonts
Micha Dwunik wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:29:31 -0800, Daniel Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

After a great deal of struggle, I finally got 2.5.7 to compile and
install yesterday on my Gentoo box, but I've had a few font issues.
   

Have you prepared a set of ebuilds needed ?
I would be grateful for posting them.
I still have sandbox errors building 2.5.7 using my puny tries to
produce an ebuild :)
Regards
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Re: Problem installing on WinXP.

2005-01-17 Thread Jonathon A. Landell
Hi Jan and Christ:

Beautiful!  The edited test file works fine, generates a PDF.

...But it looks like I'm using an old version, yes?  I've attached the
new log file, which looks fine.  I did choose a random server, because I
didn't know what to prefer.  This evening I'll re-install using your *.de
server.  Maybe then it'll be better.

Thanks
-Jonathon


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- Original Message -
From: Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jonathon A. Landell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Problem installing on WinXP.


 Hi Jan, Jonathon, rest...


 On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:51:47 +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Christ van Willegen writes:
 
   It seems you've installed 2.2.5, and the test file you're using is for
2.4...
 
  Now the question is, why choose to install 2.2.5 instead of 2.4.2?

 I'd like to say 'because Cygwin doesn't offer 2.4.2 yet', but that's
 nonsense (I have 2.4.2 on my system at work)  Perhaps Jonathon has
 installed it some tim ago, or his cygwin mirror was _way_ behind? The
 one I use (ftp.uni-erlangen.de) is up-to-date. Perhaps he needs to
 re-run setup to see what it suggests?

 Christ


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Re: opus/composer alignment

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel Johnson
FYI, this appears to be fixed in 2.5.7 and later.  Lilypond especially 
had problems calculating font metrics when using any font other than the 
default Computer Modern TeX fonts but it appears that this issue has 
been dealt with.

--d
Graham Percival wrote:
Thanks for the report, but bug reports should go to
bug-lilypond@gnu.org
(I've cc'd this to that list)
For the bugs list: if this is deliberate, let me know so I can
modify the docs.
Cheers,
- Graham
On 6-Jan-05, at 4:34 PM, Gilles wrote:
Hi.
In the following excerpt, the end of the composer
string is not aligned with the opus string (which
is a bit farther to the right).
When the short name is used instead, the alignment
is correct.
%-
\version 2.4.2
\header {
title = title
composer = Joseph Bodin de Boismortier
%composer = Boismortier
opus = Op. XXXVII
}
\score {
\relative c'' { e2 }
}
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Re: arpeggio in polyphony

2005-01-17 Thread Benjamin Esham
On Jan 17, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Albert Einstein wrote:
Do someone know what changes must be set to connect arpeggio' brackets 
in one?
I attach files: ly (2.4.2) and gif illustrate problem -- on picture 
thera are two
brackets not one as I want; I need one bracket for barre (fret 
indication) in guitar.
(This is not a solution, but maybe it'll help someone to think of one.)
Perhaps you could do something like (warning: bad syntax ahead):
   f2 \\ { a' f,4\arpeggio } 
where the f, in the chord is made invisible so that the stem and the 
head do not
show, but the bracket extends down far enough anyway.  I could probably 
find
how to do this in the manual, but I don't have time right now.  Anyone 
have any
ideas?

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Beam subdivision and fingering in tablatures

2005-01-17 Thread Sebastiano Vigna
Two questions (I posed one in lilypond-devel, not realising it was the
wrong place):

1) Is there any way of forcing a beam subdivision at a certain point? I
am typesetting drum scores, and whem I have things like

sn32[ sn sn sn sn sn sn sn]

I would like to force a one-line beam between the first and the second
group of four notes, as usual. However, using the automatic beam
subdivision does not work, because it subdivides also tuplets (e.g., 6-
tuplets). 

Moreover, beam subdivision in drum scores does not typeset the one-line
beam in the example above.

2) Is fingering in tablatures supported? I have tried with the same
method suggested for standard scores, but sometimes fingerings appear,
and sometimes not, rather randomly. Is this a bug or a lack of
implementation?

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Gentoo ebuild for Lilypond 2.5.8

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel Johnson
I've attached a Gentoo ebuild for Lilypond 2.5.8 which I've just 
verified compiles just fine.

Some notes:
- You'll need to create a custom ebuild for =app-text/mftrace-1.1.1.  
(1.1.2 is the latest.)  You can do this by renaming the latest official 
Gentoo ebuild.

- This ebuild requires ghostscript-afpl instead of plain-vanilla 
ghostscript (which is actually ESP Ghostscript).  This is because  ESP 
Ghostscript is at version 7.07 and ghostscript-afpl is up to 8.50 (8.15 
is the latest stable in Gentoo).  Ghostscript 7 will hang when Lilypond 
is trying to parse les-nereides.ly and various mutopia examples.  The 
downside of this is that AFPL Ghostscript may not ship with all of the 
CUPS printer drivers that are present in the ESP product.  If you are 
worried about this, you might want to keep your existing Ghostscript and 
instead edit the GNUmakefiles in the source tarball to omit processing 
of les-nereides and the mutopia directory.  In that case, in this ebuild 
replace the =app-text/ghostscript-afpl-8.15 with 
virtual/ghostscript.  Or, just unmerge the AFPL product after you've 
emerged Lilypond, and re-emerge the ESP product.

- This ebuild was created under the presumption that you are emerging as 
root.  If you are emerging as any other user, you'll probably get 
sandbox violations.

- In your /etc/portage/package.keywords file, you'll want the following, 
to tell Portage to use unstable packages.  Of course, if you are using 
an architecture other than x86, perform the obvious substitutions:
media-sound/lilypond ~x86
app-text/t1utils ~x86
media-fonts/ec-fonts-mftraced ~x86
media-gfx/potrace ~x86
media-gfx/fontforge ~x86
app-text/mftrace ~x86

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Re: opus/composer alignment

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Sandberg
thanks. I have added the bug to the database. It will not be fixed in the 2.4 
series, but as Daniel pointed out it is fixed in 2.5.

You can pass -f ps to lilypond, this will make the output slightly different; 
the composer will be slightly off to the right instead.

Erik

On Friday 07 January 2005 01.34, Gilles wrote:
 Hi.

 In the following excerpt, the end of the composer
 string is not aligned with the opus string (which
 is a bit farther to the right).
 When the short name is used instead, the alignment
 is correct.

 %-
 \version 2.4.2
 \header {
 title = title
 composer = Joseph Bodin de Boismortier
 %composer = Boismortier
 opus = Op. XXXVII
 }
 \score {
 \relative c'' { e2 }
 }
 %-


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Re: Beam subdivision and fingering in tablatures

2005-01-17 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 17 January 2005 22.25, Sebastiano Vigna wrote:
 Two questions (I posed one in lilypond-devel, not realising it was the
 wrong place):

 1) Is there any way of forcing a beam subdivision at a certain point? I
 am typesetting drum scores, and whem I have things like

 sn32[ sn sn sn sn sn sn sn]

 I would like to force a one-line beam between the first and the second
 group of four notes, as usual. However, using the automatic beam
 subdivision does not work, because it subdivides also tuplets (e.g., 6-
 tuplets).

 Moreover, beam subdivision in drum scores does not typeset the one-line
 beam in the example above.

You can always use stemLeftBeamCount etc.

Erik


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Re: Beam subdivision and fingering in tablatures

2005-01-17 Thread Sebastiano Vigna
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 23:56 +0100, Erik Sandberg wrote:

 You can always use stemLeftBeamCount etc.

Now I got it: to get that kind of effect, you must use BOTH
stemLeftBeamCount AND stemRightBeamCount on the last note of the group, 
as in

sn32 sn sn 
\set DrumVoice.stemRightBeamCount = #1
sn
\set DrumVoice.stemLeftBeamCount = #1
sn sn sn sn

An example of this kind would be an excellent addition to the manual.

Note that the manual uses a \property macro that Lilypond does not
compile. I put in \set as a substitute.

-- 
Ciao,

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Extra bar at the end.

2005-01-17 Thread Gordon Gilbert
Hi!
What am I missing here?  Using 2.2.2, the PDF output has an extra bar at 
the very end of the bass clef (but not in the treble clef).  I've checked 
all my notes and words, and everything seems correct, but there is that 
strange extra empty bar.

Blessings,
Gordon Gilbert
+=+
| Angels' Roost Farm  |
|   Rev. Dn. Gordon Gilbert  Susan Gilbert   |
|   705-549-5056  |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
+=+\header {
filename = TurnYourEyesUponJesus.ly
enteredby = Gordon Gilbert
composer = Helen H. Lemmel
poet = Helen H. Lemmel
date=1922
title = Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus
metre = Lemmel 98. 98. and Refrain
meter = \metre
copyright = Singspriation Inc
style = Hymn
mutopiacomposer = \composer
mutopiapoet=\poet
maintainer = Gordon Gilbert
maintainerEmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lastupdated = 2005/Jan/17
}

\version 2.2.2
%shorthand for Skip Lyric
sl = \notes { \skip 4 }

global=\notes {
\set Staff.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-4 . 4)
\time 3/4 \key f \major
\partial 4
\skip 2.*17 \bar ||
\skip 2.*15 \bar ||

}

sop = \context Voice = sop \notes  {
\voiceOne
a'4 |
a' gis' a' |
c'' bes' a' |
a'2. |
g'2 d'4 |
f' e' f' |
a' g' c' |
a'2. ~ |
a'2 a'8( a') |
a'4 gis' a' |
d'' c'' a' |
a'2. |
g'2 g'4 |
a' b' c'' |
e' f' d' |
c'2. ~ c'

% chorus
a'2^\markup{ \large Refrain } a'4 |
c''4. a'8 g'4 |
f'2. |
f'2 f'4 |
bes' bes' bes' |
d'' bes' a' |
g'2. ~ |
g'2 a'8 bes'
c''2 c''4 |
c'' a' g' |
f'2 f'4 |
f'2 f'8 g' |
a'4. g'8 a'4 |
bes' a' g' |
f'2. ~ |
f'2
}

alto=\context Voice = alto \notes  {
\voiceTwo
f'4 |
f' f' f' |
f' f' ees' |
d'2. |
d'2 d'4 |
c' c' c' |
e' e' c' |
c'2. ~ |
c'2 f'8( f') |
f'4 f' f' |
f' f' f' |
d'2. |
g'2 e'4 |
f' c' dis' |
e' d' b |
c'2. ~ |
c' 

%chorus
c'2 c'4 |
e'4. e'8 e'4 |
f'2. |
ees'2 ees'4 |
d'4 d' d' |
d' d' d' |
e' c' d' |
e'2 f'8 f' |
f'2 e'4 |
f'4 f' e' |
f'2 ees'4 |
d'2 d'8 d' |
c'4. e'8 f'4 |
e' e' e' |
f'2. ~ |
f'2
}   

tenor = \context Voice = tenor \notes  {
\voiceOne
c'4 |
c' b c' |
a f f |
f2( fis4) |
g2 bes4 |
a g a |
c' bes e |
f2. ~ |
f2 c'8( c') |
c'4 b c' |
bes a c' |
b2. |
c'2 c'4
c' g a |
c' b g8 f |
e2. ~ e

%chorus
f2 f4 |
g4. c'8 bes4 |
a2. |
a2 a4 |
bes a g |
f g f |
e2( f4 |
g2) f8 g |
a2 bes4 |
c' c' bes |
a2 a4 |
bes2 a8 bes |
f4. c'8 c'4 |
d' c' bes |
a2. ~ |
a2
}

bass = \context Voice = bass \notes  {
\voiceTwo
f4 f f f |
f d c |
bes,2. |
bes,2 bes4 |
c c c |
c c c |
f,2. ~ |
f,2 f8( f) |
f4 f f |
f f f |
f2. |
e2 c4 |
f f fis |
g g g, |
c2. ~ c

%chorus
f2 f4 |
c4. c8 c4 |
d2. |
c2 f4 |
bes, bes, bes, |
bes, bes, b, |
c2. ~ |
c2 f8 f |
f2 g4 |
a f cis |
d2 c4 |
bes,2 d8 bes, |
c4. c8 c4 |
c c c |
f,2. ~ |
f,
}

accomp=\chords {

}



stanzaa = \lyrics {
O soul, are you wea -- ry and troub -- led?
No light in the dark -- ness you see?
There's light for a look at the Sav -- iour,
And life more a -- bun -- dant and free!
%Refrain
Turn your eyes u -- pon Je -- sus,
Look full in His won -- der -- ful face;
And the things of earth will grow strange -- ly dim
In the light of His glo -- ry and grace.
}

stanzab = \lyrics {
Through death in -- to life ev -- er -- last -- ing
He passed, and we fol -- low Him there;
O-ver us sin no more hath do -- min -- ion
For more __ \sl than con -- qu'rors we are!
}

stanzac = \lyrics {
His word shall not fail you, He pro -- mised;
Be -- lieve Him and all will be well:
Then go to a 

Re: Extra bar at the end.

2005-01-17 Thread Benjamin Esham
On Jan 17, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Hi!
What am I missing here?  Using 2.2.2, the PDF output has an extra bar 
at
the very end of the bass clef (but not in the treble clef).  I've 
checked all
my notes and words, and everything seems correct, but there is that 
strange
extra empty bar.
Take a look at the tenor part, line 125:
123:  c'2 c'4
124:  c' g a |
125:  c' b g8 f | % this bar
126:  e2. ~ e
That f should be an f4, I think (right now it's an eighth note, but a 
quarter
and three eights is not a complete measure).  I just skimmed the rest 
of the
file, but I think this might be your problem.

Also, a semi-related tip: one thing I find helpful is to put an 
explicit duration
on the first note of every new line (which is also every new measure, 
if you
write one measure per line). Trying to remember which duration a note 
should
be is just too error-prone, IMO.

HTH,
--
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chord symbol parentheses

2005-01-17 Thread Charles Gran
Is there a way to alter the behavior of chord symbols as discussed on 
the manual 5.14.1ff?  I'd like to get C7(b5) rather than C7/b5 (the b's 
being flats).

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