Re: stretchable systems

2005-08-26 Thread Graham Percival


On 25-Aug-05, at 8:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


to get this to apply to all the voices in a staff.  From this, I
conclude that you could probably (?) say

   \set Score.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-7  .  7)

to get it to apply to all the staves in a Score.  There's a piece I'm


The best way to do this is like this:

\layout { \context { \Score
  minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-7 . 7)
}}


Nicolas is trying to do something a bit more difficult; he wants to
have this set automatically, which is very tricky to program.

Cheers,
- Graham



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Re: Can Span bar engraver only print at linebreaks?

2005-08-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson

It seems that the handling of break-visibility has changed between
versions 2.4 and 2.6. However, it seems to work with
  \override SpanBar #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-visible
in version 2.4.

   /Mats

Thies Albrecht wrote:

Hi Mats!



\override SpanBar #'break-visibility = #center-invisible


What version of Liyl did you use? When I'm trying it on 2.4.X it responds
with the error unbound variable: center-invisible. All in all I would also
be very interested in the desired behaviour of Span_bar_engraver as
particularly for dynamics I often get collisions with bar lines connecting
the different staves.

Kind regards,
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Re: Can Span bar engraver only print at linebreaks?

2005-08-26 Thread Thies Albrecht
Hi Mats!

 \override SpanBar #'break-visibility = #center-invisible
What version of Liyl did you use? When I'm trying it on 2.4.X it responds
with the error unbound variable: center-invisible. All in all I would also
be very interested in the desired behaviour of Span_bar_engraver as
particularly for dynamics I often get collisions with bar lines connecting
the different staves.

Kind regards,
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Preferred way for text

2005-08-26 Thread Hans de Rijck
Hi gurus,

What is the preferred way to add general texts?
So far I've found two ways that are reasonably 'universal':

\mark \markup { MyText }

or

s1*0 ^\markup { MyText }

where the latter has the possibility to position the text above the staff.

or is there another way that should be used for general purpose?

regards,

Hans.


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Re: Preferred way for text

2005-08-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Depends on what you want to use it for.

For a longer section of text, such as lyrics lines for some verses
of a song, you can actually have a \markup{...} completely outside the
\score{...}.

Hans de Rijck wrote:

Hi gurus,

What is the preferred way to add general texts?
So far I've found two ways that are reasonably 'universal':

\mark \markup { MyText }


gives you a textual indication over a bar line or between notes.



or

s1*0 ^\markup { MyText }


gives you a textual indication over a note (assuming that the s1*0
starts at the same time as a note).


where the latter has the possibility to position the text above the staff.


Yes, assuming that you mean that you can have different text over
different staves, as opposed to \mark which only places text over
the top stave.


or is there another way that should be used for general purpose?


Too general question to answer!

R1^\markup { MyText } for texts centered over full measure rests, for
example.

  /Mats


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Re: Preferred way for text

2005-08-26 Thread Trevor Baca
On 8/26/05, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Depends on what you want to use it for.
 
 For a longer section of text, such as lyrics lines for some verses
 of a song, you can actually have a \markup{...} completely outside the
 \score{...}.
 
 Hans de Rijck wrote:
  Hi gurus,
 
  What is the preferred way to add general texts?
  So far I've found two ways that are reasonably 'universal':
 
  \mark \markup { MyText }
 
 gives you a textual indication over a bar line or between notes.
 
 
  or
 
  s1*0 ^\markup { MyText }
 
 gives you a textual indication over a note (assuming that the s1*0
 starts at the same time as a note).
 
  where the latter has the possibility to position the text above the staff.
 
 Yes, assuming that you mean that you can have different text over
 different staves, as opposed to \mark which only places text over
 the top stave.
 
  or is there another way that should be used for general purpose?
 
 Too general question to answer!
 
 R1^\markup { MyText } for texts centered over full measure rests, for
 example.

That exchange right there might beneficially add to the manual at
section 8.1.3 or 8.1.4.

* external \markup { } for a block of text outside a score
* \mark \markup { } for text over a barline or between notes (and only
above the topmost staff)
* _\markup { } and ^\markup { } for text below or above the a single
staff, respectively
* R1^\markup { } for text centered over fullmeasure rests

... with an example of each.

Those uses are quite clear to me now, but they certainly weren't at
the beginning.


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Yet another font problem

2005-08-26 Thread Georg Dummer
Hallo 

I noticed a strange problem (version: windows 2.7.7) while trying to change
some fonts in a markup.


\override #'(font-name . binnerd ) 
works fine, but
\override #'(font-name . minion regular )
Comes out with the default(?) font.

Both are regular installed and well-working (ttf) fonts.
What's wrong with it or have I forgot something?

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Re: bypass \set associatedVoice altogether?

2005-08-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Since nobody has come up with any answer and the output
looks very strange, I send the question on the bug-lilypond.

   /Mats

Trevor Baca wrote:

Why does the second set of lyrics with \set associatedVoice align incorrectly?

And, in general, should I bypass \set associatedVoice altogether and
insert fake spaces, as in the third set of lyrics (which do work
correctly)?

%% BEGIN LYRICS ALIGNMENT SNIPPET %

\version 2.7.7

theVoice = {
   \time 2/4
   \set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f
   d''8
   
  {
 \voiceOne
 d''16
 d''16
 \oneVoice
  }
  \context Voice = alternative {
 \voiceTwo
 d''8
 \oneVoice
  }
   
   d''8
   d''8
}

theFirstLyrics = \lyricmode {
   \set stanza = GOOD: 
   Five words in this voice.
}
theSecondLyrics = \lyricmode {
   \set stanza = BAD :
   \set associatedVoice = alternative
   On --
   % reverts to mainVoice 1/16th too early:
   \set associatedVoice = mainVoice
   ly
   four
   here.
}

theThirdLyrics = \lyricmode {
   \set stanza = GOOD: 
   On --
   ly

   four
   here.
}

\score {
   \new Staff 
  \context Voice = mainVoice \theVoice
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theFirstLyrics
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theSecondLyrics
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto mainVoice \theThirdLyrics
   
   \layout {
  raggedright = ##t
   }
}

%%% END LYRICS ALIGNMENT SNIPPET %

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Re: Preferred way for text

2005-08-26 Thread Hans de Rijck
Hi Mats,


  or is there another way that should be used for general purpose?

 Too general question to answer!


Well, in fact it's a clear answer. Apparently there is no general way.

thanks,

Hans.

ps. I agree with Trevor that adding the different ways to the manual would
help.

h.



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Re: Preferred way for text

2005-08-26 Thread Graham Percival


On 26-Aug-05, at 9:23 AM, Trevor Baca wrote:

That exchange right there might beneficially add to the manual at
section 8.1.3 or 8.1.4.


Most of this info is already in the manual, though.


* external \markup { } for a block of text outside a score


Not really covered, but I've added it now.


* \mark \markup { } for text over a barline or between notes (and only
above the topmost staff)


8.1.3


* _\markup { } and ^\markup { } for text below or above the a single
staff, respectively


8.1.1


* R1^\markup { } for text centered over fullmeasure rests


8.2.3


... with an example of each.

Those uses are quite clear to me now, but they certainly weren't at
the beginning.


Well, I'm happy to add user-contributed docs; see
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding

Cheers,
- Graham



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(doc help, 2.19) transposition sanity check

2005-08-26 Thread Graham Percival
As a string player, I always get confused when trying to deal with the 
grammar
of transposition.  In the below excerpt from the docs, should a fifth 
downwards
be a fourth upwards ?  Or a fourth downwards ?  Or should the 
\transpose

be written differently?  Or...?



\hornNotes = { stuff in C (concert pitch, sounding pitches, whatever) }
{
 \transpose f c' \hornNotes
}
The line

\include horn-music.ly
substitutes the contents of horn-music.ly at this position in the file, 
so hornNotes is defined afterwards. The command \transpose f c' 
indicates that the argument, being \hornNotes, should be transposed by 
a fifth downwards. Sounding `f' is denoted by notated c', which 
corresponds with the tuning of a normal French Horn in F. The 
transposition can be seen in the following output





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Re: (doc help, 2.19) transposition sanity check

2005-08-26 Thread David Bobroff
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 12:27 -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
 As a string player, I always get confused when trying to deal with the 
 grammar
 of transposition.  In the below excerpt from the docs, should a fifth 
 downwards
 be a fourth upwards ?  Or a fourth downwards ?  Or should the 
 \transpose
 be written differently?  Or...?
 
 
 
 \hornNotes = { stuff in C (concert pitch, sounding pitches, whatever) }
 {
   \transpose f c' \hornNotes
 }
 The line
 
 \include horn-music.ly
 substitutes the contents of horn-music.ly at this position in the file, 
 so hornNotes is defined afterwards. The command \transpose f c' 
 indicates that the argument, being \hornNotes, should be transposed by 
 a fifth downwards. Sounding `f' is denoted by notated c', which 
 corresponds with the tuning of a normal French Horn in F. The 
 transposition can be seen in the following output
 


Actually, what it should say is:

The command \transpose f c' indicates that the argument, being
\hornNotes, should be transposed by a fifth upwards. [not downwards]

That is to say that the SOUNDING pitch in the horn part (small 'f';
fourth line bass clef) will be notated as 'middle c' (and all other
pitches will be move as well, of course).

\transpose f c' = small f goes up to middle c

It can get confusing if you're not clear about which direction you're
going, i.e. to or from concert pitch.  Since in this case we're going
from concert pitch to notated F-horn pitch it goes UP a 5th.

-David



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