RE:Running Lilypond through jEdit in Windows
Hi! I did folow the procedure outlined by Bertalan Fodor in vol 35 issue 56. When loading the lilytool 0.2.8-6 all I get is an Error message: Cannot start: java.lang. Unsuported ClassVersionError, Lilytool/lilytool.jar: (Unsuported major.minor version 49.0 ) try uploading to a newer version of the plugin. Is there anything wrong with my setup? or is this a bug? allternatively did I stupidly do something wrong? Yours Anders Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: The frust is growing up ... Was: Re: giving up frustrated ... :-(
Unfortunately, this is a bit of a problem with the Debian world. Outdated and (relatively) proven is given more importance than up-to-date -- even if the up-to-date software is better, more stable, and much more desirable. Because of dependency chains, installing the official 2.6.3 .deb from unstable also installs xorg, and may also involve installing new versions of gcc, as well as many gnome-related apps and libraries -- things that don't necessarily seem, well, necessary. This is unfortunate, but as long as you continue using Sarge, you're probably going to be stuck with 2.2.6 or whatever version of 2.4 works best for you. It seems to me that, at this point, the philosophies and mechanics involved with being a Debian user (at least if you want, or have, to continue using Sarge) are somewhat at odds with the needs of being a lilypond user. Josiah Roland Goretzki wrote: Hello list, hello Erik, You wrote: Well, a 2.6.3 .deb is in debian unstable now, so perhaps you can try that. Thank You, I tried, but on my sarge 3.1 there are some difficulties with dependencies, so this is not the way ... :-( Every download (meanwhile more than five) spends over 80 minutes, because I've only a 56k modem, so I would like to get a REAL solution soon ... ;-) Best Regards Roland ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics, ties, extenders and hyphens
Mats
many thanks for following that up.
regards
Neil
From: Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Neil Killeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lyrics, ties, extenders and hyphens
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:17:52 +0200
I have now checked an authoritative book ("Noter" by Börje Tyboni,
unfortunately only available in Swedish). It turns out that you
can have extender lines also for tied over notes, not only for
melismas. The rule is rather that you should only use an extender line
if there is a wide space to the next syllable.
My answers for 2) and 3) seem correct, though.
/Mats
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I don't have any book on music typesetting practice available
in front of me right now, but will try some advanced guesses
anyway.
Neil Killeen wrote:
Hi
1) what is the correct thing to do with a lyric and a tie ?
Should one use an extender like with a melisma ? Thus
a~ a
Fish __
Lilypond seems tolerant if I don't add the extender
a~ a
Fish
I would only use extender lines for melismas, not for ties.
2) Also, I am finding extenders and hyphens get mixed up if I do extend
ties.
E.g.
a1~ | a1 | es1~ | es1
Moun __ -- tains
What I see after type setting is something like
/--\ /---\
o o oo
_ _ <- First hyphen
overlaps with extender
Moun__ tains_
I think it's normal to only use hyphens in such a situation and no
extender lines.
3) Finally, on a matter of style of lyrics and punctuation. Is it good
style to
see punctuation (e.g. a full stop or comma) before an extender ?
E.g.
a~ a
Fish. __
If not, what should one do ? Leave out the punctuation or try and
poke it in after the extender somehow ?
The punctuation before the extender seems reasonable.
/Mats
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Re: The frust is growing up ... Was: Re: giving up frustrated ... :-(
Hello list, hello Erik, You wrote: > Well, a 2.6.3 .deb is in debian unstable now, so perhaps you can try that. Thank You, I tried, but on my sarge 3.1 there are some difficulties with dependencies, so this is not the way ... :-( Every download (meanwhile more than five) spends over 80 minutes, because I've only a 56k modem, so I would like to get a REAL solution soon ... ;-) Best Regards Roland ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Proper Text output (kerning etc.)
Hello all,
I recently upgraded to 2.7.13 from 2.4.4 because I wanted
to try some of the new features of the newer versions, esp.
"suggestAccidentals", which is a great improvement for me.
I am really happy! (Now I can listen to my midis from
full-of-musica-ficta renaissance pieces...)
I also agree that moving away from TeX is a good idea (I had
some serious problems with SUSE shipping misconfigured lilypond
2.4 packages that didn't work with tetex 3).
But when it comes to Text output, TeX is sadly missed.
I finally persuaded emacs to swallow fi-Ligatures and
em/en-dashes etc., so that I can at least get most of the
single characters I need. (ff and fl-Ligatures still missing...)
But what about metrics and kerning? Just type \markup{Ve}
(e.g. for "Veni sancte spiritus) and you know what I mean.
This hurts my eyes. I can't release books of sheet music
with text that looks like poor MS Word output.
Is there any way to get the old Text quality back?
Thanks in advance,
Robert
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Re: problem with polyphony and appoggiatura
All the problems you see are symptoms of the same bug, which
seems to be solved in version 2.7.x (the only remaining problem
in 2.7.x is that you have to explicitly add a \voiceOne or \stemUp
between the appoggiatura and the main note, for some reason.
/Mats
liang seng wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Hi, I have an interesting problem here. I've included the files
"example.ly" and "example.pdf" file your reference.
On the 1st staff, the notes and the polyphony are what I intended to do.
Now, when I try to add an appoggiatura to the quarter note g, this is
what happened as shown in the 2nd staff.
My questions are: 1. Why are the upper voice notes not aligned with
the note on the lower voice when I add the appoggiatura ?
2. Why are the upper voice notes not beamed and their beam direction
not heading up?
3. This is one perplexing. Why are the quarter notes on the 2nd bar of
both staves not beamed together? Is this a bug?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
\version "2.6.3"
\relative { <<
\new Staff { a''2 b8 a << { g8 fis16 g } \\ { a,4 } >> fis'8 d e fis g2 }
\new Staff { a2 b8 a << { \appoggiatura { \slurDown a16 } g8 fis16 g } \\ { a,4 } >> fis'8 d e fis g2 }
>> }
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Re: lyrics and notes end of line scrunch
Read at the bottom of http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing.html#Horizontal-spacing how to add some extra spacing after the note. Hopefully, the remaining measures of the line will be compressed correspondingly so it still fits on the line. /Mats Aaron Mehl wrote: Hi all, I have a song with lyrics which has one measure scrunched together. what I think happend was the for the lyrics to be spaced correctly the last note moved over until its almost touching the barline. I don't want to move the measure because each line has 6 measures already. what I guess I need to do is take some space from the previous measure and add it to this scrunched one. I am sorta confused how to acheive this in a graceful manner since the actual note spacing is fine, execept that the last note is to close to the barline. Any suggestions how to proceed with this would be most appreciated Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyrics and notes end of line scrunch
Hi all, I have a song with lyrics which has one measure scrunched together. what I think happend was the for the lyrics to be spaced correctly the last note moved over until its almost touching the barline. I don't want to move the measure because each line has 6 measures already. what I guess I need to do is take some space from the previous measure and add it to this scrunched one. I am sorta confused how to acheive this in a graceful manner since the actual note spacing is fine, execept that the last note is to close to the barline. Any suggestions how to proceed with this would be most appreciated Aaron __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
cygwin, lilypond-book 2.6.4 and a font problem
Hi all, I posted this message yesterday, but didn't see any reactions on it, so I guessed it may have been overlooked. If not, sorry :) The problem is this: When running lilypond-book with the option --psfonts on a tex file, it says that it is unable to extract Aybabtu-Regular from the generated eps file. This results in non-existing, or at least completely unreadable lyrics when using dvips. Is this a bug ? regards Maurits Lamers ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text font and note spacing
Hans wrote: Hello list, Two questions on things I can't figure out (after reading the manual): 1) can I use another text font for lyrics and if so, how to implement this? See the section on "Font Selection" in the manual. Even if you use version 2.6.x (always tell when you ask a question), I would recommend to look in the manual for version 2.7.x in this particular situation, since the text has been updated and is relevant also to 2.6. 2) is there a global way of horizontal note spacing? I find my scores cramped and I would like the notes (and as a result text) spaced a tad little wider apart. Possible? How? See the section on Horizontal spacing in the manual. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: No midi
See "Creating MIDI files" in the manual. To quote this instruction, the
\midi{...} block should be included at the end of the \score{...}:
\score {
...music...
\midi { \tempo 4=72 }
}
In your example, the final curly brace of the \score{...} block is
missing, but you should try a structure like
\score{
...music...
\layout{...}
\midi{...}
}
However, there is an additional complication in your example, namely
\atonicKey, which seems to confuse LilyPond completely when it tries to
output MIDI. For some reason, the alternative definition of \atonicKey
that I proposed in
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-09/msg00035.html
seems to work, at least you get some MIDI output.
/Mats
Mehmet Okonsar wrote:
Hello users and creators of the best music notation program in the world!
As always I have a simple question:
in a file setup like this I have no midi output, no matter where I do
put the \midi block..:
where can I put the \midi block?
%-
\version "2.7.10"
\include "english.ly"
\header {}
atonicKey =
#(def-music-function (parser location) ()
#{ #(ly:export (make-music 'EventChord
'origin $location
'elements (list (make-music 'KeyChangeEvent
'tonic (ly:make-pitch -1 4 0)
'pitch-alist '((4 . 5)
(5 . 5)
(6 . 5)
(0 . 5)
(1 . 5)
(2 . 5)
(3 . 5))
\set Score . extraNatural = ##f #})
unmeteredOn =
{
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\set Timing.automaticBars = ##f
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff {
\unmeteredOn {
<<
\context Staff = "RH"
{ \atonicKey
\clef treble
% ---> rh notes here <---
c''1
\bar "|."
}
\context Staff = "LH"
{ \atonicKey
\clef bass
% ---> lh notes here <---
c1
\bar "|."
}
}
}
%== LAYOUT
BLOCK
\layout
{
indent = 2\cm
\context
{
\Staff
\remove "Time_signature_engraver"
}
}
%= PAPER
BLOCK
\paper
{
#(set-default-paper-size "a4" ) % - set other formats here
}
-
Best regards,
Mehmet Okonşar, pianist-composer
www.okonsar.com
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Re: The frust is growing up ... Was: Re: giving up frustrated ... :-(
Forwarded to bug-lilypond! Is really the autopackage compiled against libc 2.3.4? If it should work on "almost any Linux system", then it has to be compatible with older versions of libc. On Debian stable, for example, libc has version 2.3.2. /Mats Roland Goretzki wrote: Hello list,, I wrote: Trying a little example with lilypond example-1.ly results in an error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/noten/2.6.3.1/probe > lilypond example-1.ly GNU LilyPond 2.6.3.1 [ ... ] /home/roland/.local/bin/lilypond-bin-2.6.3.1: relocation error: /home/roland/.local/lib/libguile.so.12: symbol regexec, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference and creates only a .ps-file with 0 bytes. well, that was with 2.6.3.1, and I've got no answer to this e-mail ... :-( Now, after succesfully installing 2.7.12 I got just the same error message: /home/roland/.local/bin/lilypond-bin-2.7.12: relocation error: /home/roland/.local/lib/libguile.so.12: symbol regexec, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference Who can help me? Best Regards Roland ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics, ties, extenders and hyphens
I have now checked an authoritative book ("Noter" by Börje Tyboni,
unfortunately only available in Swedish). It turns out that you
can have extender lines also for tied over notes, not only for
melismas. The rule is rather that you should only use an extender line
if there is a wide space to the next syllable.
My answers for 2) and 3) seem correct, though.
/Mats
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I don't have any book on music typesetting practice available
in front of me right now, but will try some advanced guesses
anyway.
Neil Killeen wrote:
Hi
1) what is the correct thing to do with a lyric and a tie ?
Should one use an extender like with a melisma ? Thus
a~ a
Fish __
Lilypond seems tolerant if I don't add the extender
a~ a
Fish
I would only use extender lines for melismas, not for ties.
2) Also, I am finding extenders and hyphens get mixed up if I do
extend ties.
E.g.
a1~ | a1 | es1~ | es1
Moun __ -- tains
What I see after type setting is something like
/--\ /---\
o o oo
_ _ <- First hyphen
overlaps with extender
Moun__ tains_
I think it's normal to only use hyphens in such a situation and no
extender lines.
3) Finally, on a matter of style of lyrics and punctuation. Is it good
style to
see punctuation (e.g. a full stop or comma) before an extender ?
E.g.
a~ a
Fish. __
If not, what should one do ? Leave out the punctuation or try and
poke it in after the extender somehow ?
The punctuation before the extender seems reasonable.
/Mats
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