Grace Notes + Lyrics

2005-11-01 Thread Will Oram
You'll have to forgive me if I ask a question answered in the manual  
or archives. I have no lyrics experience in music *or* lilypond, so  
this is new dabbling for me. I swear I searched and experimented  
before I wrote this message.


I wish to have one measure as so in lily 2.6.3: (I'm writing it  
vertically in case formatting is crippled when viewing):


g4  Land:
\grace bflat8
a8  Er --
a   de,
r4
f8  und
g   die

lilypond tends to put 'Er --' on the grace note, which naturally  
kills the alignment for the rest of the music. How do I put empty  
space on the grace value? I tried ignoreMelisma but I was basically  
guessing in my placement of \set and \unset.


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Re: Grace Notes + Lyrics

2005-11-01 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The easiest is simply to put an empty syllable in the lyrics,
\version 2.6.0
\score{

 \relative c''{g4 \grace bes8 a a r4 f8 g}
 \addlyrics {Land: _ Er -- de, und die }

}

but maybe it's more idiomatic typesetting to use a acciaccatura
instead (I'm not sure what the standard typesetting practice is, though).

\version 2.6.0
\score{

 \relative c''{g4 \acciaccatura bes8 a a r4 f8 g}
 \addlyrics {Land: Er -- de, und die }

}

  /Mats

Will Oram wrote:

You'll have to forgive me if I ask a question answered in the manual  
or archives. I have no lyrics experience in music *or* lilypond, so  
this is new dabbling for me. I swear I searched and experimented  
before I wrote this message.


I wish to have one measure as so in lily 2.6.3: (I'm writing it  
vertically in case formatting is crippled when viewing):


g4  Land:
\grace bflat8
a8  Er --
a   de,
r4
f8  und
g   die

lilypond tends to put 'Er --' on the grace note, which naturally  
kills the alignment for the rest of the music. How do I put empty  
space on the grace value? I tried ignoreMelisma but I was basically  
guessing in my placement of \set and \unset.


Best,

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Re: problems with special characters on 2.6

2005-11-01 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
On Friday 28 October 2005 19:26, Ralf und Martina Wimmer wrote:
 I run LilyPond 2.6 on Windows 2000.

 By using the characters from the keyboard for the german umlaut (ä, ö,
 ü) or french accent (é, è) there are no printed signs in the pdf-output
 and the following character is also ignored.

Did you save the file in utf-8 encoding?

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strange beam behavior

2005-11-01 Thread Scott Russell
Hello Lilypond folks,I'm a (relatively) novice Lilypond user. I'm working on some non-measured (cadenza-like) material and have encountered a strange situation.The five sixteenth notes of the 2nd figure in Line 3 ... c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] ... should all be beamed together. What I'm seeing in the output is the second flag on the d facing left all by itself, then the remaining 4 sixteenths beamed together with both flags. If I remove the first (unaffected) figure, the problem resolves in the second figure, but moves to the third figure. (It all makes sense if you compile and look at the output.)On a related note, the way this code is currently edited, line 4 looks OK. BUT, if I remove the "modified" line 3, you'll see the same strange beam behavior in the "fis16 [ ( g" sixteenth notes in the middle of the line.Any ideas on how to make these beamings work?Thanks!\version "2.6.3"melody = \relative c'' { \key g \major\override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t\override Score.BarNumber #'transparent = ##t\cadenzaOn%  Line 3 % ORIGINAL - doesn't work - first figure OK, second figure wrong, third and fourth figures OK.b4 ( c16 [ b a b ) d\staccato ] c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 ( [ f!16 e dis e ) g\staccato ] f!1\f \breathe\bar "" \break% MODIFIED - removed first figure - now it moves the error into the next figure - why?c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 \( [ f!16 e dis e \) g\staccato ] f!1\f \breathe\bar "" \break% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in first figure in line above%  Line 4 e16 ( [ g f! ] ) cis! ( [ d e d ] ) \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(1.2 . 0) ais16_\markup {diminuendo } ( [ b c b ] ) fis16 [ ( g d'8 ) c b a g8. f16 ] f2 ( e4 ) \breathe\bar "" \break% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in second figure in line above\cadenzaOff}\score {    \new Staff \melody} Best wishes,Scott-- Scott RussellIT Support Engineer, Office of Information Technologies, University of Notre DameInstructor of Horn, University of Notre Dame and Saint Mary's CollegeAssistant Horn, South Bend Symphony Orchestra205 DeBartolo Performing Arts Center574-631-2698ScottRussell@nd.eduhttp://www.nd.edu/~srussel2/ ___
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\book usage

2005-11-01 Thread Gilles
Hello.

To generate a piece with multiple movements, I'm used to the
following document layout, which compiles fine:

%--- all.ly ---
\version 2.6.0

\paper {
  raggedbottom = ##f
  raggedlastbottom = ##t
}

\header {
  \include header.inc.ly
}

\include all_allegro.ly
\include all_siciliana.ly
\include all_bourree.ly
\include all_menuet.ly
\include all_trio.ly
%-

all_allegro.ly includes all_allegro.inc.ly and contains a \score.
all_allegro.inc.ly defines a StaffGroup and includes all the parts
for this movement, e.g. recorder_allegro.inc.ly which defines the
a variable (recorderNotes) containing the note sequence.
[And similarly for the other movements.]

Now, in the documentation for 2.6.3, I read about the \book block;
so, I changed the above into 

%--- all.ly ---
\version 2.6.0

\paper {
  raggedbottom = ##f
  raggedlastbottom = ##t
}

\book {
  \header {
\include header.inc.ly
  }

  \include all_allegro.ly
  \include all_siciliana.ly
  \include all_bourree.ly
  \include all_menuet.ly
  \include all_trio.ly
}
%-

but lilypond doesn't like it:

$ lilypond all.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.6.3
Processing `all.ly'
Parsing...
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:3:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING

recorderNotes = \relative c'' {
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:135:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'

}
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: unknown escaped string: `\recorderNotes'
\transpose c c {
 \recorderNotes }
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
\transpose c c {
 \recorderNotes }
all_allegro.ly:5:7: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
\score
   {
all_allegro.ly:16:2: error: errors found, ignoring music expression

  \unfoldRepeats \staves
all.ly:24:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'

}
error: failed files: all.ly


Could you explain why it doesn't work?


Thanks,
Gilles


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technique for mixing / matching tunes

2005-11-01 Thread Jason Addison
What is the recommended technique for defining tunes in separate files
so that they can be used to generate pdf with only that tune, or pdf
wth several consecutive tunes? For example (what I'm try and failing
with--I thing because I use variables outside of score but inside of
book):

caution: approximate/brief lilypond syntax below

tune_a.ly:
parta = { ... }
partb = { ... }
score { parta partb headerinfo }

tune_b.ly
parta = { ... }
partb = { ... }
score { parta partb headerinfo }

tune_a-single.ly: generated on the fly with make/sh
include single_tune_hdr.ly
include tune_a.ly

set_one.ly:
include set_hdr.ly
book {
include tune_a.ly
include tune_b.ly
}

Everything works fine except for set_one.ly. I tried putting the
variable defs inside score but that didn't work. It works if I don't
use variable, but I rely heavily on using variables. Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Problem with title fonts

2005-11-01 Thread Daniel Hernandez

Hello group,
I'm a novice Lilypond user. I'm working with lilypond 2.4.5 in debian.
I intalled lilypond with apt-get. Now I'm compiling some lilypond codes,
for example from the lilypond page and not all works fine. The midi an
the scores are ok, but the font of title is not. I see the output from
the examples and the title is in a Roman font (I think computer modern),
but when I compile the same sources the font that I get is a typewriter
font (but not monospaced). I put the result of the comand
$ lilypond --png petite-ouverture-a-danser.ly
in http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~dhernand/lilypond/ 
How I can get the font correctly?


Thanks
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Re: strange beam behavior

2005-11-01 Thread Edward Neeman
Hi Scott,

Even though it is a cadenza, the beams still work in
4/4.  If you count it out, you will realise that the
beams are split in the natural place for 4/4 time.  To
override this, please read the Manual beams section in
the manual

Cheers,
Edward Neeman

--- Scott Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Lilypond folks,
 
 I'm a (relatively) novice Lilypond user. I'm working
 on some non- 
 measured (cadenza-like) material and have
 encountered a strange  
 situation.
 
 The five sixteenth notes of the 2nd figure in Line 3
 ... c8  
 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] ...
 should all be beamed  
 together. What I'm seeing in the output is the
 second flag on the d  
 facing left all by itself, then the remaining 4
 sixteenths beamed  
 together with both flags. If I remove the first
 (unaffected) figure,  
 the problem resolves in the second figure, but moves
 to the third  
 figure. (It all makes sense if you compile and look
 at the output.)
 
 On a related note, the way this code is currently
 edited, line 4  
 looks OK. BUT, if I remove the modified line 3,
 you'll see the same  
 strange beam behavior in the fis16 [ ( g sixteenth
 notes in the  
 middle of the line.
 
 Any ideas on how to make these beamings work?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 \version 2.6.3
 
 melody = \relative c'' {
 \key g \major
 \override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
 \override Score.BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
 \cadenzaOn
 
 
 %  Line 3 
 
 % ORIGINAL - doesn't work - first figure OK, second
 figure wrong,  
 third and fourth figures OK.
 b4 ( c16 [ b a b ) d\staccato ] c8 ( [ \setTextCresc
 d16\ c b c ) e 
 \staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 ( [
 f!16 e dis e ) g 
 \staccato ] f!1\f \breathe
 
 \bar  \break
 
 % MODIFIED - removed first figure - now it moves the
 error into the  
 next figure - why?
 c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 (
 [ e16 d cis d ) f 
 \staccato ] e8 \( [ f!16 e dis e \) g\staccato ]
 f!1\f \breathe
 
 \bar  \break
 
 % FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in first
 figure in line above
 
 
 %  Line 4 
 
 e16 ( [ g f! ] ) cis! ( [ d e d ] ) \once \override
 TextScript  
 #'extra-offset = #'(1.2 . 0) ais16_\markup
 {diminuendo } ( [ b c  
 b ] ) fis16 [ ( g d'8 ) c b a g8. f16 ] f2 ( e4 )
 \breathe
 
 \bar  \break
 
 % FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in second
 figure in line above
 
 \cadenzaOff
 
 }
 
 \score {
  \new Staff \melody
 }
 
 
 Best wishes,
 Scott
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 Technologies, University  
 of Notre Dame
 Instructor of Horn, University of Notre Dame and
 Saint Mary's College
 Assistant Horn, South Bend Symphony Orchestra
 
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Re: Problem with title fonts

2005-11-01 Thread D Josiah Boothby
yes, that's a common problem. try downloading the newest ec-fonts-mftraced 
package from the lilypond page:


http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/

josiah

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Daniel Hernandez wrote:


Hello group,
I'm a novice Lilypond user. I'm working with lilypond 2.4.5 in debian.
I intalled lilypond with apt-get. Now I'm compiling some lilypond codes,
for example from the lilypond page and not all works fine. The midi an
the scores are ok, but the font of title is not. I see the output from
the examples and the title is in a Roman font (I think computer modern),
but when I compile the same sources the font that I get is a typewriter
font (but not monospaced). I put the result of the comand
$ lilypond --png petite-ouverture-a-danser.ly
in http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~dhernand/lilypond/ How I can get the font 
correctly?


Thanks
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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Raphael Manfredi
Quoting Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] from ml.lilypond.users:
:Raphael Manfredi writes:
:
: Something is wrong.
:
:Please attach a minimal, but full example of your .ly file.

Here it is.  The character I'm printing is u` in case there is
a problem with the encoding via mail.  The UTF-8 encoding is correct.

-
% UTF-8 character messes markup
% Output is fine without the font override, but then I get ugly courier
\version 2.6.3
\new Staff {
\clef treble \time 4/4
\override TextScript #'font-name = cmr10
\relative c'' {
 a^\markup { piu mosso } b c d e^\markup { più mosso } f g f
}
}
-

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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Raphael Manfredi
And here is a PNG of the lilypond output on my system, in case you
cannot reproduce it.

Raphael


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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Raphael Manfredi wrote:

And here is a PNG of the lilypond output on my system, in case you
cannot reproduce it.


There was a problem with fontchanges  in the middle of text strings, 
which I fixed in 2.7.8.


However, I recommend you to use another font, which includes the 
accented characters as separate glyphs, eg. ecrm10. With 2.7.8, you will 
still get the sans-serif u` but with correct placement.


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Re: technique for mixing / matching tunes

2005-11-01 Thread Gilles

 What is the recommended technique for defining tunes in separate files
 so that they can be used to generate pdf with only that tune, or pdf
 wth several consecutive tunes? For example (what I'm try and failing
 with--I thing because I use variables outside of score but inside of
 book):
 

Indeed, this seems to be the same problem I posted a couple of
hours ago (subject was: \book usage)

Gilles


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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Raphael Manfredi writes:

 Here it is.  The character I'm printing is u` in case there is
 a problem with the encoding via mail.  The UTF-8 encoding is correct.

   \override TextScript #'font-name = cmr10

This may be a bug, the cmr font does not have the u` character,
possibly the metrics from the fallback font are not used.  But even if
the metrics were correct, it would look very ugly.

What happens when you use another font, one that does includes u`, say
the default?

Jan.

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Re: Fun with \include english.ly

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas J. Dillman
After some experimentation.  I've discovered that the problem was doing 
the include inside a {} block.
english.ly defines a variable, which, it seems, can't be done inside a 
block.  I didn't see anything on this in the tutorial or manual.  Did I 
miss something obvious?


Mats Bengtsson wrote:


I hope you have verified that you don't have any other syntax
error in your own input file. Sometimes the error messages can
be misleading.

   /Mats

Thomas J. Dillman wrote:


I'm using lilypond 2.6.4  I've used the command:
\include english.ly
in one of my files and am getting:

Parsing...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.4/ly/english.ly:6:0: 
error: syntax error, unexpected STRING


pitchnamesEnglish = #`(

error: errors found, ignoring music expression

What am I doing wrong.




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emacs: error in post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil)

2005-11-01 Thread Robert J. Cristel
I'm using tei-emacs, lilypond 2.6.4, on 
win98se.


Copied lilypond_init.el into .emacs

Copied lilypond emacs-mode files to 
site-lisp\lilypond directory.  This seemed 
to work as here is load-path:


load-path's value is
(c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/emacs-21.3/leim 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/xslt-process/lisp c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/nxml-mode/ 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/cedet-common 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/eieio 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/elib 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/lilypond 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/nxml-mode 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ocaml 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/psgml 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/semantic 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/speedbar 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/tdtd 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/tei-emacs 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/tuareg 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/xslide 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/cedet-common/icons 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/nxml-mode/char-name 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/semantic/bovine 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/semantic/wisent 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/big5conv 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/jisx0213 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/reldata 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/nxml-mode/char-name/unicode 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current/doc 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current/lisp 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current/lisp/big5conv 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current/lisp/jisx0213 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/site-lisp/ucs/Mule-UCS-current/lisp/reldata 
C:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/../site-lisp C:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/toolbar c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/textmodes 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/progmodes 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/play c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/obsolete 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/net c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/mh-e 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/mail c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/language 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/international 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/gnus c:/PROGRAM 
FILES/TEI EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/eshell 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/emulation 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/emacs-lisp 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/calendar 
c:/PROGRAM FILES/TEI 
EMACS/EMACS-21.3/lisp/calc C:/PROGRAM 
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problem or bug?

2005-11-01 Thread liang seng

To whom it may concern,
Hi, I have some problems here with Lilypond 2.6.3. I've attached both 
example.ly and example.pdf for your reference.
In the 2nd bar, why is the appoggiatura slur not attached to the note heads 
of both the appoggiatura and the main note? Instead, as shown, the slur is 
at the end of the stem.
In the 5th bar, I'm puzzled as to why the running trill line does not span 
to the end of the bar when I explicitly attached the \stopTrillSpan at the 
last spacer quarter note of the bar? I could cheat by attaching 
\stopTrillSpan to a hidden grace note at the end of the bar but I wouldn't 
like to do this everytime.

Can both these problems be rectified or are they bugs of version 2.6.3?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,
Seng Liang.



example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
\version 2.6.3 
\relative { \time 2/4 
b'4 b8 b \appoggiatura ais16 b4.( cis16 d) e8 cis b a 
 \appoggiatura b16  { a2~\startTrillSpan a } { s2 s4.  s8\stopTrillSpan }  }  
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Re: technique for mixing / matching tunes

2005-11-01 Thread Jason Addison
Exactly, so the root of the poblem is that this doesn't work:

book {
parta = { ... }
partb = { ... }
score { parta partb header{ ... }  }
}

or, slightly more general case:

book {
parta = { something1 }
partb = { something2 }
score { parta partb header{ ... }  }
parta = { something3 }
partb = { something4 }
score { parta partb header{ ... }  }
}

Though, for my application, this may be an entirely wrong solution in
the first place.


On 11/1/05, Gilles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is the recommended technique for defining tunes in separate files
  so that they can be used to generate pdf with only that tune, or pdf
  wth several consecutive tunes? For example (what I'm try and failing
  with--I thing because I use variables outside of score but inside of
  book):
 

 Indeed, this seems to be the same problem I posted a couple of
 hours ago (subject was: \book usage)

 Gilles


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Re: Problem with title fonts

2005-11-01 Thread Daniel Hernandez


Thanks, with the last ec-fonts-mftraced debian package it works fine.

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, D Josiah Boothby wrote:

yes, that's a common problem. try downloading the newest ec-fonts-mftraced 
package from the lilypond page:


http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/

josiah

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Daniel Hernandez wrote:


 Hello group,
 I'm a novice Lilypond user. I'm working with lilypond 2.4.5 in debian.
 I intalled lilypond with apt-get. Now I'm compiling some lilypond codes,
 for example from the lilypond page and not all works fine. The midi an
 the scores are ok, but the font of title is not. I see the output from
 the examples and the title is in a Roman font (I think computer modern),
 but when I compile the same sources the font that I get is a typewriter
 font (but not monospaced). I put the result of the comand
 $ lilypond --png petite-ouverture-a-danser.ly
 in http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~dhernand/lilypond/ How I can get the font
 correctly?

 Thanks
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Doc translation

2005-11-01 Thread John Mandereau
Hi
On the wiki
http://wikihost.org/wikis/lilypond/programm/gebo.prg?name=discus ,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I just mailed Jan N. about starting a Wiki for the translation
 of the entire manual into Dutch.
 He mailed me back, that this already existes, kinda...
 All I found, was a very difficult site where I couldn't find what I
 was looking for.
 
What is this very difficult site? Is it a message in the mailing list
archive? More precisely, is it
[[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2005-09/msg00017.html]]?
If not, could you please give the URL?
 
 
 Well, now I hope, anyone will mail me, how to make any translation
 into the Wiki.
 I'm not (I repeat; I'm not!) a developer, just a choir director.
 But willing to translate is my spare time.
 
I'm not a developer either, but I'm trying to make something similar to
the infrastructure used to translate the website, starting with patch
from Jan (see above message link). I hope you're not in a hurry, because
I can't spend much time on it, and I'm a newbie concerning makefiles and
Texinfo. I've read the Texinfo info pages, and now I'm trying to figure
out how to debug the makefile.

I'll submit ideas and problems on the list later, when I really know
what I talk about.

French translators are waiting for it too. By the way, I hope you will
find other Dutch people interested in doing this job, in order to do it
faster and better. We (the French translators) have managed to translate
most of the website with a good quality, haven't we? As we are a team,
we read and improve each other's work, until it looks good.

Regards
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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Raphael Manfredi
Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] from ml.lilypond.users:
:Raphael Manfredi wrote:
: And here is a PNG of the lilypond output on my system, in case you
: cannot reproduce it.
:
:There was a problem with fontchanges  in the middle of text strings, 
:which I fixed in 2.7.8.
:
:However, I recommend you to use another font, which includes the 
:accented characters as separate glyphs, eg. ecrm10. With 2.7.8, you will 
:still get the sans-serif u` but with correct placement.

Yes, ecmr10 works fine, but it is a sans-serif font and it does not
look as good as cmr10.

Where does lilypond get its font list from, so that I can try others?
I gathered the name cmr10 from a config file I saw, but I don't
know where to find an exhaustive list of the available fonts.

Thanks,
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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Raphael Manfredi wrote:

Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] from ml.lilypond.users:
:Raphael Manfredi wrote:
: And here is a PNG of the lilypond output on my system, in case you
: cannot reproduce it.
:
:There was a problem with fontchanges  in the middle of text strings, 
:which I fixed in 2.7.8.

:
:However, I recommend you to use another font, which includes the 
:accented characters as separate glyphs, eg. ecrm10. With 2.7.8, you will 
:still get the sans-serif u` but with correct placement.


Yes, ecmr10 works fine, but it is a sans-serif font and it does not
look as good as cmr10.


no, it's not; what you're seeing is the system default for fonts that 
are not found.



Where does lilypond get its font list from, so that I can try others?


the easiest is to put a .ttf  .pfb  or .pfa in ~/.fonts. If it shows up 
on the output of


fc-list

you can use it in lily.



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Re: \book usage

2005-11-01 Thread John Mandereau
Gilles wrote:
 all_allegro.ly includes all_allegro.inc.ly and contains a \score.
 all_allegro.inc.ly defines a StaffGroup and includes all the parts
 for this movement, e.g. recorder_allegro.inc.ly which defines the
 a variable (recorderNotes) containing the note sequence.
 [And similarly for the other movements.]

 %--- all.ly ---
 \version 2.6.0
 
 \paper {
   raggedbottom = ##f
   raggedlastbottom = ##t
 }
 
 \book {
   \header {
 \include header.inc.ly
   }
 
   \include all_allegro.ly
   \include all_siciliana.ly
   \include all_bourree.ly
   \include all_menuet.ly
   \include all_trio.ly
 }
 %-
 
 but lilypond doesn't like it:
 
 $ lilypond all.ly
 GNU LilyPond 2.6.3
 Processing `all.ly'
 Parsing...
 recorder_allegro.inc.ly:3:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
 
 recorderNotes = \relative c'' {
 recorder_allegro.inc.ly:135:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'
 
 }
 recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: unknown escaped string: 
 `\recorderNotes'
 \transpose c c {
  \recorderNotes }
 recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
 \transpose c c {
  \recorderNotes }
 all_allegro.ly:5:7: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
 \score
{
 all_allegro.ly:16:2: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
 
   \unfoldRepeats \staves
 all.ly:24:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'
 
 }
 error: failed files: all.ly
 
 
 Could you explain why it doesn't work?

AFAIK, named music expressions *have to* be defined at toplevel, not
within a \book or \score block. So, a simple thing to do may be moving
every

\include staff_movement.inc.ly

statement from all_movement.inc.ly to all.ly, before \book. You will
certainly have to rename expressions to avoid redefinitions, e.g. you'll
have to replace each  recorderNotes  occurence with
movementRecorderNotes
otherwise all movements will be the same.

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-01 Thread Gilles

 
 AFAIK, named music expressions *have to* be defined at toplevel, not
 within a \book or \score block. So, a simple thing to do may be moving
 every
 
 \include staff_movement.inc.ly
 
 statement from all_movement.inc.ly to all.ly, before \book. You will
 certainly have to rename expressions to avoid redefinitions, e.g. you'll
 have to replace each  recorderNotes  occurence with
 movementRecorderNotes
 otherwise all movements will be the same.
 

Of course, I thought of this solution, but it provides a much less
systematic and maintainable layout :-{
Instead of only having instrument name based variables (and reuse them
for each movement), there must now be every combination of instrument
and movement name variables, and worse even, since everything must be
defined before actual use (in \book), you have to keep track of all the
other variables that could have been defined to simplify input (e.g. 
repetitive patterns) in a given instrument and be sure that the name
won't be used in another file included later on...

In the documentation, section 11.1.1, about Input variables and Scheme,
it is mentioned that variables can also be defined in \header, \midi and
\layout blocks.
Is there some inherent impossibility to being able to do the same for
\book?
Or, is there another recommended way to build documents from reusable
elements, as was asked in another post today?


Thanks,
Gilles


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installation issue

2005-11-01 Thread Arthur Dyck
I have just installed the package of 2.7.12 on Mandrake 10.1.  When I attempt 
to invoke lilypond from my terminal window I get the following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Desktop]$ lilypond Amen1.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.12
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path

I'm not great at Linux so any help would be appreciated.

Arthur


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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-11-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

 On the other hand, I just tried John Mandereau's hints:

I have prepared 2.6.4-3 packages with python compiled for console and
incorporating John's hints (apart from downloading python manually :-).
For PATH, PYTHONPATH and PATHEXT to be set automagically, you may have
to reboot.  But other than that, the python scripts should work ootb.

Can you take a good stab at this again?

Jan.


$ cd LilyPond
02:57:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/LilyPond
$ PATH=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/bin:$PATH
02:57:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/LilyPond
$ export PYTHONPATH='/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/lib/python2.4'
02:57:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/LilyPond
$ export PATHEXT=$PATHEXT:.PY
02:57:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/LilyPond
$ /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/cmd.exe
Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

c:\Program Files\LilyPondmidi2ly.py --help
midi2ly.py --help
Usage: c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\midi2ly.py [OPTIONS]... FILE

Convert MIDI to LilyPond source.

Options:
...

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Re: problem or bug?

2005-11-01 Thread Edward Neeman

 example.ly and example.pdf for your reference.
 In the 2nd bar, why is the appoggiatura slur not
 attached to the note heads 
 of both the appoggiatura and the main note? Instead,
 as shown, the slur is 
 at the end of the stem.

The appogiatura slur placement is probably a bug, but
it is easy to fix by overriding 'positions:

\override Voice.Slur #'positions = #'(0 . 0)

 In the 5th bar, I'm puzzled as to why the running
 trill line does not span 
 to the end of the bar when I explicitly attached the
 \stopTrillSpan at the 
 last spacer quarter note of the bar? I could cheat
 by attaching 
 \stopTrillSpan to a hidden grace note at the end of
 the bar but I wouldn't 
 like to do this everytime.

In fact this is what I do every time.  Is it so much
trouble?  You can also attach the \stopTrillSpan to a
rest and hide that, eg.

\once \override Rest #'transparent = ##t
r8\stopTrillSpan

Cheers,
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Re: \book usage

2005-11-01 Thread Graham Percival


On 1-Nov-05, at 4:19 PM, Gilles wrote:

AFAIK, named music expressions *have to* be defined at toplevel, not
within a \book or \score block.


Yes.


statement from all_movement.inc.ly to all.ly, before \book. You will
certainly have to rename expressions to avoid redefinitions, e.g. 
you'll

have to replace each  recorderNotes  occurence with
movementRecorderNotes
otherwise all movements will be the same.


Yes.  :(


Of course, I thought of this solution, but it provides a much less
systematic and maintainable layout :-{


My solution is to use lilypond-book and \book:

--- foo.lytex:
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\lilypondfile{1allegro/score.ly}
\liypondfile{2largo/score.ly}
\end{document}

--- 1allegro/score.ly
\incude parts.ly
\book{
\score{ \new Grandstaff
\violin
\piano

}
}

... you get the idea.


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Re: Fun with \include english.ly

2005-11-01 Thread Graham Percival


On 30-Oct-05, at 1:00 PM, Thomas J. Dillman wrote:

After some experimentation.  I've discovered that the problem was 
doing the include inside a {} block.
english.ly defines a variable, which, it seems, can't be done inside a 
block.  I didn't see anything on this in the tutorial or manual.  Did 
I miss something obvious?


In file structure, it only says that definitions can be done at the 
top level (ie not within {} ).  If you have suggestions for where else 
we should have this info, please let me know.


Cheers,
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Fontconfig error

2005-11-01 Thread Will Oram
I need to use lilypond-book so I reinstalled the 2.6.3 Terminal  
version on 10.4.2 from fink, in addition to regular use of the .app.  
I seem to be having font problems not present in the executable,  
because when I call lilypond --verbose .ly, I get


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond --verbose .lyGNU  
LilyPond 2.6.4


LILYPOND_DATADIR=/sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
LOCALEDIR=/sw/share/locale

Effective prefix: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
Initializing FontConfig...Fontconfig error: Cannot load default  
config file


adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/otf/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/type1/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/svg/
Processing `.ly'
Parsing... [etc etc etc]

The output exists, but lyrics text is replaced with garbage, likely  
using the dynamics font. lilypond-book is similar; using the TeX code  
copied directly from the documentation:


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond-book --output=out --psfonts  
--verbose book.tex

lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.4
Reading book.tex...
Invoking `latex tmp2yTO4j.tex'This is pdfeTeX, Version  
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)

entering extended mode
(./tmp2yTO4j.tex
LaTeX2e 2003/12/01
Babel v3.8d and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,  
ngerman, b
ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch,  
esperanto, e
stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar,  
norsk, polis
h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish,  
swedish, tur

kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
No file tmp2yTO4j.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmp2yTO4j.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmp2yTO4j.log.

Dissecting...
Writing snippets...
Processing...
Invoking `/sw/bin/lilypond --formats=ps --backend eps  -I /Users/ 
spamguy/projects/ snippet-map.ly lily-134892'GNU LilyPond 2.6.4

Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
Processing `snippet-map.ly'
Parsing...
Processing `book.tex:2 (lily-134892.ly)'
Parsing...[etc etc etc]

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Re: Escape sequence for accentuated characters?

2005-11-01 Thread Christian Ebert
* Han-Wen Nienhuys on Tuesday, November 01, 2005:
 Raphael Manfredi wrote:
 Where does lilypond get its font list from, so that I can try others?
 
 the easiest is to put a .ttf  .pfb  or .pfa in ~/.fonts. If it shows up 
 on the output of
 
   fc-list
 
 you can use it in lily.

Well, I can *not* use it on MacOS 10.3.9:

$ fc-list Sabon
Sabon:style=RomanOsF
Sabon:style=BoldOsF
Sabon:style=ItalicOsF
Sabon:style=BoldItalicOsF

and I tried e.g

\override Score.BarNumber   #'font-name = #Sabon-RomanOsF

or

\override Score.BarNumber   #'font-name = #Sabon RomanOsF

or

\override Score.BarNumber   #'font-name = #Sabon Roman Oldstyle Figures

or (despair!)

\override Score.BarNumber   #'font-name = #Sabon

and it I still only get LuxiSans.

Apart from the fact that even if it worked any customized TeX
font metrics (for LyricTexT e.g) were gone.

So, again, for me a switch to lilypond 2.4.5 would mean

a) a loss of quality
b) a setup that's vry ;-) far from easier to use

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