Re: extra bar

2005-11-02 Thread Edward Neeman
If you don't want barlines (except where you specify
them explicitly) add /cadenzaOn to any of the parts. 
Otherwise it will add bars in 4/4 (default) time.

Cheers,
Edward Neeman
--- Arthur Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can anyone tell me why I have an extra bar before
 the double bar?  I don't 
 want it.
 
 \version 2.6.0
 global = 
 {
 \key g \major
 \set score.timing = ##f
 \set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f
 }
 \layout {
 raggedright = ##t
 }
 \header {   
 title = 
 subtitle = 
 tagline =
 poet = 
 composer =
 }
 
 #(set-global-staff-size 15)
 
 upperOne = 
 \relative c''{
 \voiceOne
 \key g \major
 a2 b1 \bar |.
 }
 
 upperTwo =  
 \relative c'{
 \voiceTwo
 fis2 g1
 }
 
 lowerOne =  
 \relative c' {
 \key g \major
 \voiceOne
 d2 d1
 } 
 
 lowerTwo =   
 \relative c {
 \voiceTwo
 d2 g1
 }
 
 firstverse = \lyricmode {
 A -- men
  }
 
 
 \score{ 
 \context StaffGroup
 \context Staff = upper 
 
 
 \clef treble
 \context Voice = one
 \upperOne
 \context Voice = two
 \upperTwo 
 
 
 \lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
 \firstverse 
 }
 
 
 \context Staff = lower 
 
 \clef bass
 \context
 Voice = one \lowerOne
 \context
 Voice = two \lowerTwo
 
 
 
 \layout {
 
 \context{\Staff
 \remove
 Time_signature_engraver
 }
 \context{\StaffGroup
 }
 
 \context{\Score
 barNumberVisibility = #all-invisible
 }
 }
 
 
 \midi { }   
 }
 \paper {
 
 topmargin = .0\in
 leftmargin = .1\in
 linewidth = 5\in 
 indent = 0
 pagenumber = no
 }
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: problem or bug?

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson



In the 5th bar, I'm puzzled as to why the running
trill line does not span 
to the end of the bar when I explicitly attached the
\stopTrillSpan at the 
last spacer quarter note of the bar? I could cheat
by attaching 
\stopTrillSpan to a hidden grace note at the end of
the bar but I wouldn't 
like to do this everytime.
   



In fact this is what I do every time.  Is it so much
trouble?  You can also attach the \stopTrillSpan to a
rest and hide that, eg.

\once \override Rest #'transparent = ##t
r8\stopTrillSpan
 



Doesn't it work with a spacer note, s8, so you don't have to fiddle with
making things transparent?

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Re: technique for mixing / matching tunes

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Jason Addison wrote:


What is the recommended technique for defining tunes in separate files
so that they can be used to generate pdf with only that tune, or pdf
wth several consecutive tunes? For example (what I'm try and failing
with--I thing because I use variables outside of score but inside of
book):

caution: approximate/brief lilypond syntax below

tune_a.ly:
parta = { ... }
partb = { ... }
score { parta partb headerinfo }

tune_b.ly
parta = { ... }
partb = { ... }
score { parta partb headerinfo }

tune_a-single.ly: generated on the fly with make/sh
include single_tune_hdr.ly
include tune_a.ly

set_one.ly:
include set_hdr.ly
book {
include tune_a.ly
include tune_b.ly
}

 


As long as you accept to use one .ly file for each output .pdf file
(such as the set_one.ly file), there's no need at all to use the \book{...}
feature. Just remove the \book{ and corresponding right brace from the
file and I guess you get the expected result.

   /Mats


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Re: Fontconfig error

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I can't provide any hints on the font problems directly, but are you 
sure that

you reinstalled version 2.6.3? The printouts say 2.6.4!

  /Mats

Will Oram wrote:

I need to use lilypond-book so I reinstalled the 2.6.3 Terminal  
version on 10.4.2 from fink, in addition to regular use of the .app.  
I seem to be having font problems not present in the executable,  
because when I call lilypond --verbose .ly, I get


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond --verbose .lyGNU  
LilyPond 2.6.4


LILYPOND_DATADIR=/sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
LOCALEDIR=/sw/share/locale

Effective prefix: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
Initializing FontConfig...Fontconfig error: Cannot load default  
config file


adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/otf/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/type1/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/svg/
Processing `.ly'
Parsing... [etc etc etc]

The output exists, but lyrics text is replaced with garbage, likely  
using the dynamics font. lilypond-book is similar; using the TeX code  
copied directly from the documentation:


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond-book --output=out --psfonts  
--verbose book.tex

lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.4
Reading book.tex...
Invoking `latex tmp2yTO4j.tex'This is pdfeTeX, Version  
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)

entering extended mode
(./tmp2yTO4j.tex
LaTeX2e 2003/12/01
Babel v3.8d and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,  
ngerman, b
ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch,  
esperanto, e
stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar,  
norsk, polis
h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish,  
swedish, tur

kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
No file tmp2yTO4j.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmp2yTO4j.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmp2yTO4j.log.

Dissecting...
Writing snippets...
Processing...
Invoking `/sw/bin/lilypond --formats=ps --backend eps  -I /Users/ 
spamguy/projects/ snippet-map.ly lily-134892'GNU LilyPond 2.6.4

Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
Processing `snippet-map.ly'
Parsing...
Processing `book.tex:2 (lily-134892.ly)'
Parsing...[etc etc etc]

focus on the wherefore
for in it lies the question
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Re: strange beam behavior

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

But, the \partial command is supposed to fix that, isn't it?
There shouldn't be any need for manual beams.

  /Mats

Edward Neeman wrote:


Hi Scott,

Even though it is a cadenza, the beams still work in
4/4.  If you count it out, you will realise that the
beams are split in the natural place for 4/4 time.  To
override this, please read the Manual beams section in
the manual

Cheers,
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--- Scott Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Hello Lilypond folks,

I'm a (relatively) novice Lilypond user. I'm working
on some non- 
measured (cadenza-like) material and have
encountered a strange  
situation.


The five sixteenth notes of the 2nd figure in Line 3
... c8  
( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] ...
should all be beamed  
together. What I'm seeing in the output is the
second flag on the d  
facing left all by itself, then the remaining 4
sixteenths beamed  
together with both flags. If I remove the first
(unaffected) figure,  
the problem resolves in the second figure, but moves
to the third  
figure. (It all makes sense if you compile and look

at the output.)

On a related note, the way this code is currently
edited, line 4  
looks OK. BUT, if I remove the modified line 3,
you'll see the same  
strange beam behavior in the fis16 [ ( g sixteenth
notes in the  
middle of the line.


Any ideas on how to make these beamings work?

Thanks!


\version 2.6.3

melody = \relative c'' {
\key g \major
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t
\override Score.BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
\cadenzaOn


%  Line 3 

% ORIGINAL - doesn't work - first figure OK, second
figure wrong,  
third and fourth figures OK.

b4 ( c16 [ b a b ) d\staccato ] c8 ( [ \setTextCresc
d16\ c b c ) e 
\staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 ( [
f!16 e dis e ) g 
\staccato ] f!1\f \breathe


\bar  \break

% MODIFIED - removed first figure - now it moves the
error into the  
next figure - why?

c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 (
[ e16 d cis d ) f 
\staccato ] e8 \( [ f!16 e dis e \) g\staccato ]

f!1\f \breathe

\bar  \break

% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in first
figure in line above


%  Line 4 

e16 ( [ g f! ] ) cis! ( [ d e d ] ) \once \override
TextScript  
#'extra-offset = #'(1.2 . 0) ais16_\markup
{diminuendo } ( [ b c  
b ] ) fis16 [ ( g d'8 ) c b a g8. f16 ] f2 ( e4 )

\breathe

\bar  \break

% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in second
figure in line above

\cadenzaOff

}

\score {
\new Staff \melody
}


Best wishes,
Scott
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Re: extra bar

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Actually, \cadenzaOn is just a shorthand for
\set Timing.timing = ##f
Arthur's code would probably work as expected if changed
score.timing into Score.timing or Timing.Timing (the latter
is recommended) or the shorthand \cadenzaOn.
Note that LilyPond is sensitive about uppercase/lowercase!

  /Mats

Edward Neeman wrote:


If you don't want barlines (except where you specify
them explicitly) add /cadenzaOn to any of the parts. 
Otherwise it will add bars in 4/4 (default) time.


Cheers,
Edward Neeman
--- Arthur Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Can anyone tell me why I have an extra bar before
the double bar?  I don't 
want it.


\version 2.6.0
global = 
{

   \key g \major
   \set score.timing = ##f
   \set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f
}
\layout {
   raggedright = ##t
}
\header {   
   title = 

   subtitle = 
   tagline =
   poet = 
   composer =
}


#(set-global-staff-size 15)

upperOne = 
   \relative c''{

   \voiceOne
   \key g \major
   a2 b1 \bar |.
   }
   
upperTwo =  
   \relative c'{

   \voiceTwo
   fis2 g1
}

lowerOne =  
   \relative c' {

   \key g \major
   \voiceOne
   d2 d1
} 

lowerTwo =   
   \relative c {

   \voiceTwo
   d2 g1
}

firstverse = \lyricmode {
   A -- men
}


\score{ 
   \context StaffGroup
   \context Staff = upper 
   
   

   \clef treble
   \context Voice = one
\upperOne
   \context Voice = two
\upperTwo 
   
   
   \lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
   \firstverse 
   }


   
   \context Staff = lower 
   
   \clef bass

   \context
Voice = one \lowerOne
   \context
Voice = two \lowerTwo
   
   

\layout {
   
   \context{\Staff

   \remove
Time_signature_engraver
   }
   \context{\StaffGroup
   }

   \context{\Score
   barNumberVisibility = #all-invisible
   }
   }


\midi { }   
}

\paper {

   topmargin = .0\in
   leftmargin = .1\in
   linewidth = 5\in 
   indent = 0

   pagenumber = no
   }

Thanks.

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The only reason to use \book{...} in an ordinary .ly file is if you want
several output PDF files from one single .ly file (you get one PDF for
each \book{...} section if you have several of them).
If you have a single \book{...} in a .ly file, you can simply remove it
and get the same result (except that you get rid of the problems you
noticed below).

  /Mats

Gilles wrote:


Hello.

To generate a piece with multiple movements, I'm used to the
following document layout, which compiles fine:

%--- all.ly ---
\version 2.6.0

\paper {
 raggedbottom = ##f
 raggedlastbottom = ##t
}

\header {
 \include header.inc.ly
}

\include all_allegro.ly
\include all_siciliana.ly
\include all_bourree.ly
\include all_menuet.ly
\include all_trio.ly
%-

all_allegro.ly includes all_allegro.inc.ly and contains a \score.
all_allegro.inc.ly defines a StaffGroup and includes all the parts
for this movement, e.g. recorder_allegro.inc.ly which defines the
a variable (recorderNotes) containing the note sequence.
[And similarly for the other movements.]

Now, in the documentation for 2.6.3, I read about the \book block;
so, I changed the above into 


%--- all.ly ---
\version 2.6.0

\paper {
 raggedbottom = ##f
 raggedlastbottom = ##t
}

\book {
 \header {
   \include header.inc.ly
 }

 \include all_allegro.ly
 \include all_siciliana.ly
 \include all_bourree.ly
 \include all_menuet.ly
 \include all_trio.ly
}
%-

but lilypond doesn't like it:

$ lilypond all.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.6.3
Processing `all.ly'
Parsing...
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:3:0: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING

recorderNotes = \relative c'' {
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:135:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'

}
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: unknown escaped string: `\recorderNotes'
   \transpose c c {
\recorderNotes }
recorder_allegro.inc.ly:146:21: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
   \transpose c c {
\recorderNotes }
all_allegro.ly:5:7: error: errors found, ignoring music expression
\score
  {
all_allegro.ly:16:2: error: errors found, ignoring music expression

 \unfoldRepeats \staves
all.ly:24:0: error: syntax error, unexpected '}'

}
error: failed files: all.ly


Could you explain why it doesn't work?


Thanks,
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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Thanks for your efforts! However, is it really that hard to make a simple
test case yourself? There are still a number of problems to solve:

When you run from the Windows (XP) command window:

1. Python is still not setup correctly. For example, you get:
midi2ly
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\midi2ly.py, line 24, in ?
   import getopt
ImportError: No module named getopt

2. More on Python. I tried to run it stand-alone and got:
python
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
Python 2.4.2 (#1, Nov  2 2005, 01:27:15)
[GCC 3.4.4 (mingw special)] on mingw32msvc2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.


 When I did
set PYTHONHOME=C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4

 it worked somewhat better, but it still doesn't find all modules:
python
Python 2.4.2 (#1, Nov  2 2005, 01:27:15)
[GCC 3.4.4 (mingw special)] on mingw32msvc2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import sys
 import getopt
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File stdin, line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named getopt


3. You still have to call lilypond with full path, otherwise you get:

lilypond
GNU LilyPond 2.6.4
ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path
   


 As far as I could see from the CVS change logs, it seems that you tried
 to fix this problem but it still doesn't work.


4. On the positive side: It seems that your settings of PATH, PATHEXT
 and PYTHONPATH work well, at least on WinXP after the first
 reboot.

   /Mats

Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:


Mats Bengtsson writes:

 


On the other hand, I just tried John Mandereau's hints:
   



I have prepared 2.6.4-3 packages with python compiled for console and
incorporating John's hints (apart from downloading python manually :-).
For PATH, PYTHONPATH and PATHEXT to be set automagically, you may have
to reboot.  But other than that, the python scripts should work ootb.

Can you take a good stab at this again?

Jan.


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02:57:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/LilyPond
$ /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/cmd.exe
Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

c:\Program Files\LilyPondmidi2ly.py --help
midi2ly.py --help
Usage: c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\midi2ly.py [OPTIONS]... FILE

Convert MIDI to LilyPond source.

Options:
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Re: \book usage

2005-11-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Gilles wrote:

Hello.

To generate a piece with multiple movements, I'm used to the
following document layout, which compiles fine:




Now, in the documentation for 2.6.3, I read about the \book block;
so, I changed the above into 


This isn't necessary. All toplevel \scores are put into a  single book 
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Re: text font problems with 2.6.4 for windows?

2005-11-02 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Mats Bengtsson writes:

 Thanks for your efforts! However, is it really that hard to make a simple
 test case yourself?

Yes, it is.  To me, the whole Windows platform is some sort of ugly
black voodoo, as you can see from the snippets I sent, it works for
me.  Just as the previous release worked somewhat, except for argv0
relocation and dll loading.

I have leant that if something on windows `works for me', that's a
very useful first step, but it quite possibly doesn't work for you.

Any windows gurus want to step in here?

 There are still a number of problems to solve:

Thank a lot Mats,
Sigh.


   When I did
  set PYTHONHOME=C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4

I do not think that PYTHONHOME will work, because it is in disharmony
with the directory layout that make install creates.  PYTHONPATH
should work...

 3. You still have to call lilypond with full path, otherwise you get:

Hmm, how odd.  It is advertised that on Windows, argv0 is always an
absolute file name.  Anyway, this should be an easy fix

 4. On the positive side: It seems that your settings of PATH, PATHEXT
   and PYTHONPATH work well, at least on WinXP after the first
   reboot.

Yay!

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-02 Thread Gilles
Hi.

 
 Now, in the documentation for 2.6.3, I read about the \book block;
 so, I changed the above into 
 
 This isn't necessary. All toplevel \scores are put into a  single book 
 automatically.
 

Ah, I see, thanks.
I think that this, and Mats's clarification would be valuable
additions to section 10.1.12 of the manual.


Best,
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Re: \book usage

2005-11-02 Thread Gilles
Hi.

 
 My solution is to use lilypond-book and \book:
 
 --- foo.lytex:
 \documentclass{article}
 \begin{document}
 \lilypondfile{1allegro/score.ly}
 \liypondfile{2largo/score.ly}
 \end{document}
 

If I understand correctly, this is to make it possible to insert
text between the different movements (as is the purpose of \book).
Right?

 --- 1allegro/score.ly
 \incude parts.ly
 \book{
 \score{ \new Grandstaff
 \violin
 \piano
 
 }
 }
 

According to Han-Wen's remark, with or without \book here, the
result should be the same.


Thanks,
Gilles


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Adjusting bar length

2005-11-02 Thread Edwin Vane
Hi,

I have a bar over which I have a couple of text markups (some attached
with \mark when I want them attached to barlines). However, I find that
longer text items run into each other. I've tried the 'padding'
attribute of TextScripts but it only seems to increase padding between
the staff and the text. Setting no-spacing-rods to ##f helps but
disrupts the layout of objects on the staff. Is there any way to
increase horizontal padding between text items and simply cause the bar
underneat to expand nicely?

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Re: extra bar

2005-11-02 Thread Arthur Dyck
Thank you both for your suggestions.  They are very helpful.

Arthur

On Wednesday 02 November 2005 04:36 am, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
 Actually, \cadenzaOn is just a shorthand for
 \set Timing.timing = ##f
 Arthur's code would probably work as expected if changed
 score.timing into Score.timing or Timing.Timing (the latter
 is recommended) or the shorthand \cadenzaOn.
 Note that LilyPond is sensitive about uppercase/lowercase!

/Mats

 Edward Neeman wrote:
 If you don't want barlines (except where you specify
 them explicitly) add /cadenzaOn to any of the parts.
 Otherwise it will add bars in 4/4 (default) time.
 
 Cheers,
 Edward Neeman
 
 --- Arthur Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone tell me why I have an extra bar before
 the double bar?  I don't
 want it.
 
 \version 2.6.0
 global =
 {
 \key g \major
 \set score.timing = ##f
 \set Staff.autoBeaming = ##f
 }
 \layout {
 raggedright = ##t
 }
 \header {
 title = 
 subtitle = 
 tagline = 
 poet = 
 composer = 
 }
 
 #(set-global-staff-size 15)
 
 upperOne =
 \relative c''{
 \voiceOne
 \key g \major
 a2 b1 \bar |.
 }
 
 upperTwo =
 \relative c'{
 \voiceTwo
 fis2 g1
 }
 
 lowerOne =
 \relative c' {
 \key g \major
 \voiceOne
 d2 d1
 }
 
 lowerTwo =
 \relative c {
 \voiceTwo
 d2 g1
 }
 
 firstverse = \lyricmode {
 A -- men
  }
 
 
 \score{
 \context StaffGroup
 \context Staff = upper
 
 
 \clef treble
 \context Voice = one
 \upperOne
 \context Voice = two
 \upperTwo
 
 
 \lyricsto one \new Lyrics {
 \firstverse
 }
 
 
 \context Staff = lower 
 
 \clef bass
 \context
 Voice = one \lowerOne
 \context
 Voice = two \lowerTwo
 
 
 
 \layout {
 
 \context{\Staff
 \remove
 Time_signature_engraver
 }
 \context{\StaffGroup
 }
 
 \context{\Score
 barNumberVisibility = #all-invisible
 }
 }
 
 
 \midi { }
 }
 \paper {
 
 topmargin = .0\in
 leftmargin = .1\in
 linewidth = 5\in
 indent = 0
 pagenumber = no
 }
 
 Thanks.
 
 Arthur
 
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Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Arthur Dyck
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop 
publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has some interesting 
features.  Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create 
text or image boxes for your input.  You can import lilypond pdf images 
directly into your image box.  You can then put transparent text boxes on top 
of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't 
recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some 
interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for 
some long -- but fun -- days.

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Arthur Dyck wrote:
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop 
publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has some interesting 
features.  Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create 
text or image boxes for your input.  You can import lilypond pdf images 
directly into your image box.  You can then put transparent text boxes on top 
of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't 
recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some 
interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for 
some long -- but fun -- days.


I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little 
plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the 
resulting PDF files.


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

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Re: Adjusting bar length

2005-11-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

As long as you only have text markups attached to notes, read in
Section 8.1.1 Text scripts on how to use \fatText. If you want
more spacing, you can use something like
\override TextScript #'extra-X-extent = #'(-0.5  .  0.5)

For \mark, I don't know the answer from the top of my head.

  /Mats

Edwin Vane wrote:


Hi,

I have a bar over which I have a couple of text markups (some attached
with \mark when I want them attached to barlines). However, I find that
longer text items run into each other. I've tried the 'padding'
attribute of TextScripts but it only seems to increase padding between
the staff and the text. Setting no-spacing-rods to ##f helps but
disrupts the layout of objects on the staff. Is there any way to
increase horizontal padding between text items and simply cause the bar
underneat to expand nicely?

 



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Re: [SPAM] Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread andrea valle
(I did exactly that job using ConTeXt as typesetting environment for my 
scores.  We discussed of lily in the ConTeXt mailing list for a while. 
Here two half-finished 
works:www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-I.pdf

www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/nodi-II.pdf

score fragments by lily, graph and general typesetting by ConTeXt
)

Best

-a-


On 2 Nov 2005, at 16:41, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Arthur Dyck wrote:
I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based 
desktop publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has 
some interesting features.  Basically, you define your page size with 
borders and then create text or image boxes for your input.  You can 
import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box.  You can 
then put transparent text boxes on top of your image allowing you to 
do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't recommend it for a an 
ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some interesting 
possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use 
Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making 
for some long -- but fun -- days.


I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little 
plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the 
resulting PDF files.


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?

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Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Henrik Frisk
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Arthur Dyck wrote:
  I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based
  desktop publishing program.  I have been playing with it and it has
  some interesting features.  Basically, you define your page size
  with borders and then create text or image boxes for your input.
  You can import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box.
  You can then put transparent text boxes on top of your image
  allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere.  I wouldn't recommend
  it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some
  interesting possibilites.  I am trying to learn how to use it and
  how to use Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so
  it's making for some long -- but fun -- days.
 
 I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little
 plugin that takes .ly code,  runs it through lily, and pasts back the
 resulting PDF files.
 
 That would actually be pretty neat...
 
 Sponsored feature, anyone?
 
This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one? If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.

/Henrik


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Pango font problem

2005-11-02 Thread Frédéric Bron
Using Lily 2.6.4 with Cygwin

I have problems with new font system. If I do not specify anything, the
output is Sans-Serif. If I try to specify what is in the doc to have Roman
output, i.e.

#(define fonts
   (make-pango-font-tree
Times New Roman Helvetica Courier
(/ myStaffSize 20)))

I have the Roman font (fine) but then \italic has no effect!

Here is a small example where the dim. should be italic and is not:

\version 2.6.0

\include english.ly

#(set-global-staff-size 18)
#(set-default-paper-size a4)

\paper {
#(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree Times New Roman Helvetica
Courier (/ 18 20)))
}

\score {
\new Staff {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 2/4
\relative {
c4_\markup { \italic dim. } d e f
\bar |.
}
}
}


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SOLVED: strange beam behavior

2005-11-02 Thread Scott Russell
Hi everyone,The \partial command did, in fact, fix this. Below is the revised Lilypond code and a link to the PNG of the 2 affected lines.http://www.nd.edu/~srussel2/lilypond/correctedBeams.pngMaking the first group of 5 16ths into a "partial bar" and explicitly specifying an invisible bar between the partial figure and the next figure solves the strange beaming in both lines.Thanks for the advice, Mats and Edward!melody = \relative c'' { \key g \major % \minor\override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t\override Score.BarNumber #'transparent = ##t\cadenzaOn% LOTS OF CUT CODE%  Line 3 b4 ( \bar "" \partial 16*5 c16 [ b a b ) d\staccato ] \bar "" c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 ( [ f!16 e dis e ) g\staccato ] f!1\f \breathe\bar "" \break%  Line 4 e16 ( [ g f! ] ) cis! ( [ d e d ] ) \once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(1.2 . 0) ais16_\markup {diminuendo } ( [ b c b ] ) fis16 [ ( g16 d'8 ) c b a g8. f16 ] f2 ( e4 ) \breathe\bar "" \break LOTS MORE CUT CODE\cadenzaOff }Best wishes,Scott-- Scott RussellIT Support Engineer, Office of Information Technologies, University of Notre DameInstructor of Horn, University of Notre Dame and Saint Mary's CollegeAssistant Horn, South Bend Symphony Orchestra205 DeBartolo Performing Arts Center574-631-2698ScottRussell@nd.eduhttp://www.nd.edu/~srussel2/ On Nov 2, 2005, at 4:12 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:But, the \partial command is supposed to fix that, isn't it?There shouldn't be any need for manual beams.  /MatsEdward Neeman wrote: Hi Scott,Even though it is a cadenza, the beams still work in4/4.  If you count it out, you will realise that thebeams are split in the natural place for 4/4 time.  Tooverride this, please read the Manual beams section inthe manualCheers,Edward Neeman--- Scott Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello Lilypond folks,I'm a (relatively) novice Lilypond user. I'm workingon some non- measured (cadenza-like) material and haveencountered a strange  situation.The five sixteenth notes of the 2nd figure in Line 3... c8  ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] ...should all be beamed  together. What I'm seeing in the output is thesecond flag on the d  facing left all by itself, then the remaining 4sixteenths beamed  together with both flags. If I remove the first(unaffected) figure,  the problem resolves in the second figure, but movesto the third  figure. (It all makes sense if you compile and lookat the output.)On a related note, the way this code is currentlyedited, line 4  looks OK. BUT, if I remove the "modified" line 3,you'll see the same  strange beam behavior in the "fis16 [ ( g" sixteenthnotes in the  middle of the line.Any ideas on how to make these beamings work?Thanks!\version "2.6.3"melody = \relative c'' {\key g \major\override Staff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t\override Score.BarNumber #'transparent = ##t\cadenzaOn%  Line 3 % ORIGINAL - doesn't work - first figure OK, secondfigure wrong,  third and fourth figures OK.b4 ( c16 [ b a b ) d\staccato ] c8 ( [ \setTextCrescd16\ c b c ) e \staccato ] d8 ( [ e16 d cis d ) f\staccato ] e8 ( [f!16 e dis e ) g \staccato ] f!1\f \breathe\bar "" \break% MODIFIED - removed first figure - now it moves theerror into the  next figure - why?c8 ( [ \setTextCresc d16\ c b c ) e\staccato ] d8 ([ e16 d cis d ) f \staccato ] e8 \( [ f!16 e dis e \) g\staccato ]f!1\f \breathe\bar "" \break% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in firstfigure in line above%  Line 4 e16 ( [ g f! ] ) cis! ( [ d e d ] ) \once \overrideTextScript  #'extra-offset = #'(1.2 . 0) ais16_\markup{diminuendo } ( [ b c  b ] ) fis16 [ ( g d'8 ) c b a g8. f16 ] f2 ( e4 )\breathe\bar "" \break% FIXME: fix sixteenth note beams in secondfigure in line above\cadenzaOff}\score {    \new Staff \melody}Best wishes,Scott-- Scott RussellIT Support Engineer, Office of InformationTechnologies, University  of Notre DameInstructor of Horn, University of Notre Dame andSaint Mary's CollegeAssistant Horn, South Bend Symphony Orchestra205 DeBartolo Performing Arts Center574-631-2698[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.nd.edu/~srussel2/    ___      lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user             Do you Yahoo!? Messenger 7.0: Free worldwide PC to PC calls http://au.messenger.yahoo.com___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user  -- =    Mats Bengtsson    Signal Processing    Signals, Sensors and Systems    Royal Institute of Technology    SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM    Sweden    Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463                       Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260    Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe= 

Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?

2005-11-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Henrik Frisk wrote:


That would actually be pretty neat...

Sponsored feature, anyone?



This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once
I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit
the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it
with the old one?


Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you only 
have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch.



If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost.


That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd 
have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface.  I'd guess 
that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude.


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Re: stemless notes

2005-11-02 Thread Daniel Johnson
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I have been able to get transparent note stems working.  

Now I am trying to create to short vertical lines on each side of the stemless 
notes to indicate that there is a string of words sung on that one note in 
free time.  I tried using the \barOne and \barTwo definitions in the Gregorian 
chant template, but lilypond is refusing to process that. Any suggestions?  
Thanks again.

%%% BEGIN LILYPOND CODE %%%

\version 2.6.0

#(define (vertline-stencil stencil thickness padding)
  Add vertical lines around STENCIL, producing a new stencil.
  (let* ((x-ext (interval-widen (ly:stencil-extent stencil 0) padding))
 (y-ext (interval-widen (ly:stencil-extent stencil 1) padding))
 (y-rule (make-filled-box-stencil (cons 0 thickness) y-ext))
 (x-rule (make-filled-box-stencil
  (interval-widen x-ext thickness) (cons 0 thickness
(set! stencil (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge stencil X 1 y-rule padding))
(set! stencil (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge stencil X -1 y-rule padding))
stencil))
#(define (make-stencil-vertline thickness padding callback)
  Return function that adds vertical lines around the grob passed as
argument.
  (lambda (grob) (vertline-stencil (callback grob) thickness padding)))
 
holdNote = {
\once\override Stem #'print-function = ##f
\once\override NoteHead #'print-function = #(make-stencil-vertline
0.05 0.05 Note_head::print)
}
\score {
\context Staff {
c'2.
\holdNote c'4
}
}

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Re: \book usage

2005-11-02 Thread Graham Percival


On 2-Nov-05, at 4:06 AM, Gilles wrote:


\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\lilypondfile{1allegro/score.ly}
\liypondfile{2largo/score.ly}
\end{document}



If I understand correctly, this is to make it possible to insert
text between the different movements (as is the purpose of \book).
Right?


The purpose of using lilypond-book here is just to stick multiple 
scores together, with page numbering.



--- 1allegro/score.ly


According to Han-Wen's remark, with or without \book here, the
result should be the same.


Not if you're using lilypond-book.  If you don't use \book, then you 
can't use \pageBreak in your scores.  There used to be a bug (in Aug) 
wherein the horizontal alignment of some systems was also messed up 
without \book; I'm not certain if that's still around.


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Re: extra bar

2005-11-02 Thread Graham Percival


On 2-Nov-05, at 1:36 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:


Actually, \cadenzaOn is just a shorthand for
\set Timing.timing = ##f
Arthur's code would probably work as expected if changed
score.timing into Score.timing or Timing.Timing (the latter
is recommended) or the shorthand \cadenzaOn.


This is why I always use those shorthands if they're available.  It 
doesn't matter if the underlying lilypond syntax changes from 
Score.timing to Timing.Timing or Bars.Times or Foo.Buzzle ; as long as 
the lilypond devel team updates the definition of \cadenzaOn, all will 
be well.


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Re: problem or bug?

2005-11-02 Thread Edward Neeman

--- Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In the 5th bar, I'm puzzled as to why the running
 trill line does not span 
 to the end of the bar when I explicitly attached
 the
 \stopTrillSpan at the 
 last spacer quarter note of the bar? I could
 cheat
 by attaching 
 \stopTrillSpan to a hidden grace note at the end
 of
 the bar but I wouldn't 
 like to do this everytime.
 
 
 
 In fact this is what I do every time.  Is it so
 much
 trouble?  You can also attach the \stopTrillSpan to
 a
 rest and hide that, eg.
 
 \once \override Rest #'transparent = ##t
 r8\stopTrillSpan
   
 
 
 Doesn't it work with a spacer note, s8, so you don't
 have to fiddle with
 making things transparent?
 
/Mats
 
In my experience attaching \stopTrillSpan to a spacer
note produces less than optimal results, for example:

a\startTrillSpan a a\stopTrillSpan
a\startTrillSpan a s\stopTrillSpan
a\startTrillSpan a 
\once \override Rest #'transparent = ##t
r\stopTrillSpan

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Re: Fontconfig error

2005-11-02 Thread Will Oram

Yes, sorry, I meant 2.6.4.

Will

On Nov 2, 2005, at 3.59 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

I can't provide any hints on the font problems directly, but are  
you sure that

you reinstalled version 2.6.3? The printouts say 2.6.4!

  /Mats

Will Oram wrote:

I need to use lilypond-book so I reinstalled the 2.6.3 Terminal   
version on 10.4.2 from fink, in addition to regular use of  
the .app.  I seem to be having font problems not present in the  
executable,  because when I call lilypond --verbose .ly, I get


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond --verbose .lyGNU   
LilyPond 2.6.4


LILYPOND_DATADIR=/sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
LOCALEDIR=/sw/share/locale

Effective prefix: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4
Initializing FontConfig...Fontconfig error: Cannot load default   
config file


adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/otf/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/type1/
adding font directory: /sw/share/lilypond/2.6.4/fonts/svg/
Processing `.ly'
Parsing... [etc etc etc]

The output exists, but lyrics text is replaced with garbage,  
likely  using the dynamics font. lilypond-book is similar; using  
the TeX code  copied directly from the documentation:


spamguy:~/projects/ spamguy$ lilypond-book --output=out -- 
psfonts  --verbose book.tex

lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.4
Reading book.tex...
Invoking `latex tmp2yTO4j.tex'This is pdfeTeX, Version   
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)

entering extended mode
(./tmp2yTO4j.tex
LaTeX2e 2003/12/01
Babel v3.8d and hyphenation patterns for american, french,  
german,  ngerman, b
ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish,  
dutch,  esperanto, e
stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin,  
magyar,  norsk, polis
h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene,  
spanish,  swedish, tur

kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded.

(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document  
class

(/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
No file tmp2yTO4j.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmp2yTO4j.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmp2yTO4j.log.

Dissecting...
Writing snippets...
Processing...
Invoking `/sw/bin/lilypond --formats=ps --backend eps  -I /Users/  
spamguy/projects/ snippet-map.ly lily-134892'GNU LilyPond  
2.6.4

Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
Processing `snippet-map.ly'
Parsing...
Processing `book.tex:2 (lily-134892.ly)'
Parsing...[etc etc etc]

focus on the wherefore
for in it lies the question
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lilypond-book fragment padding?

2005-11-02 Thread Edwin Vane
Hi,

I'm noticing that objects that are near the edge of the fragment (such
as the '3' in a triplet in relation to the bottom of the output) are
being clilpped slightly (the bottom of the 3 gets cut off). I've noticed
this with text on the right edge of the fragment as well (in this case,
the right edge is being clipped). The problem doesn't exist in lilypond
proper. Is there a way to fix this? More importantly, is there a way to
pad fragments with whitespace? I've already tried the StaffSymbol's
extra-Y-extent...

I've posted an example of the problem at:

http://www.cgl.uwaterloo.ca/~revane/example.pdf

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what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-02 Thread Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence

I think I've copied (retyped) it from the manual.

\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }

All I am attemptin is to get the word Moderato higher above the notes of 
the staff.


the response I get is

C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar/Oud 
bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:27:40: error: syntax error, unexpected '.'

\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2
   .0

C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar/Oud 
bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:28:9: error: unknown escaped string: 
`\italic'

\markup{
\italic Moderator }

So what am I doing wrong?
Thank you.

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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-02 Thread Daniel Johnson

Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:


I think I've copied (retyped) it from the manual.

\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }

All I am attemptin is to get the word Moderato higher above the notes 
of the staff.


the response I get is

C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc 
files/Guitar/Oud bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:27:40: error: syntax 
error, unexpected '.'

\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2
   .0


you need a hash-mark before the 2.0:
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0

C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc 
files/Guitar/Oud bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:28:9: error: unknown 
escaped string: `\italic'

\markup{
\italic Moderator }

So what am I doing wrong?
Thank you.





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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?

2005-11-02 Thread Edward Neeman

--- Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence
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 I think I've copied (retyped) it from the manual.
 
 \once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
 \markup{ \italic Moderato }

add a hash: #2.0

Cheers,
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tiny ties

2005-11-02 Thread Edward Neeman
Hi list,

I have some ties at the end of a line that appear
unreadably small, like little dots.  It seems that
\overriding the Tie 'control-points doesn't work
anymore (bug?)  Is there any way to increase the size
of these ties?

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