Re: etf2ly
Or should I just re-notate the whole thing? I know that this is just a way for me to admit to being a bit of a masochist, but I generally find it easier (and just as time consuming) to start over. I've tried using the lily code that Rosegarden, NoteEdit, and Denemo produce, but I spend so much time correcting code -- sometimes only so that it looks a particular way that makes it easier for me to read, sometimes because I don't like the way the programs organize everything -- that I usually give up and start typing from scratch. In my experience, things only get more complicated when dealing with a translator. I have not had good experiences with trying to turn midi files into lily source, though it's been long enough that the tools that perform that function are probably more mature. Granted, my experience is limited. I'm too lazy: I'd rather just type out a new score than deal with mucking out the old. I don't know. The way I've answered your question sounds suspiciously like the host of editor questions that have been filling up the list lately. I suppose the best cure for this may be following the advice Mats gave me for something totally unrelated about a year or so ago: Try it. Doing it Josiah's way is probably not the best way to do it. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: etf2ly
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07.58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, I'm just wondering… > > I'm in lilypond version 2.6.5 on OSX. I'm finding myself increasingly > more facile with the program by the minute. I'm wondering if I'm > doing something wrong with etf2ly. I don't get output, I just get > errors (syntax errors) I'm typing etf2ly [filename] and get nothing. > I'm assuming this is because I don't have the right Python. > > Or should I just re-notate the whole thing? One alternative is to switch to 2.7.28 and use the new MusicXML import (which of course only works if your ETF-compatible software supports XML export). The MusicXML import is generally better supported than ETF in the 2.7 series. If you still want to use 2.6 for its stability, then you can use only the XML import from 2.7, and switch to 2.6 for post-editing/typesetting the score; the file format should be more-or-less backward compatible. -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: etf2ly
I would generally agree, as the output of most translators is correct but barely readable. On the other hand, I hope we'll manage to get the MusicXML filter to be good enough to be able to use Finale as a front-end, and Lilypond as a back-end. If we - I mean, Han-Wen- don't, the output can still be improved up to a point where it might be ok to maintain it as is: bar numbers in comments, relative mode rather than absolute mode, line breaks on every bar, meaningful names whenever possible... Cheers, D. D Josiah Boothby wrote: Or should I just re-notate the whole thing? I know that this is just a way for me to admit to being a bit of a masochist, but I generally find it easier (and just as time consuming) to start over. I've tried using the lily code that Rosegarden, NoteEdit, and Denemo produce, but I spend so much time correcting code -- sometimes only so that it looks a particular way that makes it easier for me to read, sometimes because I don't like the way the programs organize everything -- that I usually give up and start typing from scratch. In my experience, things only get more complicated when dealing with a translator. I have not had good experiences with trying to turn midi files into lily source, though it's been long enough that the tools that perform that function are probably more mature. Granted, my experience is limited. I'm too lazy: I'd rather just type out a new score than deal with mucking out the old. I don't know. The way I've answered your question sounds suspiciously like the host of editor questions that have been filling up the list lately. I suppose the best cure for this may be following the advice Mats gave me for something totally unrelated about a year or so ago: Try it. Doing it Josiah's way is probably not the best way to do it. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Lilypond-book output
>-Original Message- >From: Graham Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 4:26 AM >To: Georg Dummer >Cc: 'lilypond-user' >Subject: Re: Lilypond-book output > > >On 20-Jan-06, at 3:19 AM, Georg Dummer wrote: > >> Thank you. I tried this but it didn't change anything. >> But maybe I have to play around with this a bit. >> As a start I think I can live with that. For me the most annoy thing >> is the fact, that the markups are put on top of the score. Is this a >> bug? > >All the markups? Regardless of having \score in between them? > Yes, I'd say that is a bug. Please create a small file which >demonstrates this, and send it to the bugs list. > See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2006-01/msg00136.html Hope, this helps Georg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: etf2ly
Il giorno mar, 24/01/2006 alle 09.59 +0100, Darius Blasband ha scritto: > I would generally agree, as the output of most translators is correct > but barely readable. On the other hand, I hope we'll manage to get the > MusicXML filter to be good > enough to be able to use Finale as a front-end, and Lilypond as a > back-end. If we - I mean, Han-Wen- don't, the output can still be > improved up to a point where > it might be ok to maintain it as is: bar numbers in comments, relative > mode rather than absolute mode, line breaks on every bar, meaningful > names whenever possible... You could have a look at xml2ly: it has already a very readable output and supports a lot of useful MusicXML features (most outstanding lack is lyrics, at present). You should find a copy in the recent archives of this list - or feel free to ask for it to me directly. I've never tested it on Windows, but should be fairly trivial to have it working. Ciao, Guido ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: score
Quoting Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: With printallheaders=##t, you can use the ordinary title or subtitle fields, otherwise you can redefine how the titles for each subsequent score is printed, for example by \paper { bookTitleMarkup = \markup { \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:piece } } } which should center the "piece" field if I'm not mistaken. It may take me a little while to test that and I'm not sure how to use it yet. Will that allow me to have different movement names since \paper applies to the whole ly file? Just add these lines at the top of your file. It redefines how all the titles are typeset. Here comes one complete example, which also corrects a copy/paste error in the lines I wrote above. \paper { scoreTitleMarkup = \markup { \fill-line { \fromproperty #'header:piece } } } \score{ \relative c'{c d e f} \header{piece = "Movement 1" } } \score{ \relative c''{c d e f} \header{piece = "Movement 2" } } \score{ \relative c'{c d e f} \header{piece = "Movement 3" } } Don't worry too much about that the field is called "piece", it could just as well have been called "movement" or something else. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: \once space between scores without lilypond-book?
Felix - I use these handles for controlling vertical layout: \break \pageBreak betweensystempadding betweensystemspace Staff minimumVerticalExtent \markup { " " \raise #n " " } HTH - Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix Hammer Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:13 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: \once space between scores without lilypond-book? Am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2006 21:58 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: > One method is to add a title to the second score, > with a empty "piece" field that takes some space. a empty "piece" field make the same space as a empty \markup here on my machine. So its also to much space. > > Another option is to convince LilyPond that the last > score line of the first score or the first score line > of the second score should occupy more space, > which can be done in several ways. Please can you tell me one of the ways? Or please give me a keyword to look for in the documentation. Felix ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: etf2ly
I think I'll just re-do the score. It’s only two parts, and the hassle of installing a translator that likely won’t work well is not really how I want to spend my time. Thanks Am 24.01.2006 um 00:57 schrieb Erik Sandberg: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07.58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm just wondering… I'm in lilypond version 2.6.5 on OSX. I'm finding myself increasingly more facile with the program by the minute. I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with etf2ly. I don't get output, I just get errors (syntax errors) I'm typing etf2ly [filename] and get nothing. I'm assuming this is because I don't have the right Python. Or should I just re-notate the whole thing? One alternative is to switch to 2.7.28 and use the new MusicXML import (which of course only works if your ETF-compatible software supports XML export). The MusicXML import is generally better supported than ETF in the 2.7 series. If you still want to use 2.6 for its stability, then you can use only the XML import from 2.7, and switch to 2.6 for post-editing/typesetting the score; the file format should be more-or-less backward compatible. -- Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Using RPM to install 2.7 ?
I'd like to install lilypond 2.7 on a Fedora Core 4 box, on which all the software is (so far!) managed by RPM. Has anyone created an RPM package of 2.7? Earlier, I tried to make a naive binary RPM using the installer script from http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-2.7.28-1.linux.sh but this appears to drag in an extra copy of files from ghostscript-8.15, guile, python, freetype, pango, etc., all of which are already installed. Then, thinking I'd better do the job properly and build from source, I looked at the version 2.4 spec file from http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/all/linux/SRPMS/lilypond-2.4.5-1.src.rpm and took fright! Definitely time to ask the experts... -- Graham King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Using RPM to install 2.7 ?
Just found http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/Fedora-4/lilypond-2.7.26-1.i386.rpm How embarrassing! Sorry to waste your time. On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 16:40 +, Graham King wrote: > I'd like to install lilypond 2.7 on a Fedora Core 4 box, on which all > the software is (so far!) managed by RPM. Has anyone created an RPM > package of 2.7? -- Graham King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
OS X and lilypond-book
Hi all, When I do : lilypond-book --output=out --psfonts clair.tex I get : lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.7.28 Reading clair.tex... Running latex... Dissecting... lilypond-book: error: file not found: screech-boink.ly I had the same problem with LilyPond the stable 2.6 version Anyone has an idea ? Thanks, --- Anas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lilypond installation on OS X and Fedora 4
Hello, Having used Lilypond.app on OS X, I would like to use lilypond-book now. I first tried to use the version within Lilypond.app and then also installed Fink. Whatever I do, I seem to get the following errors though: minimac:~ Heike$ lilypond --verbose GNU LilyPond 2.6.5 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path minimac:~ Heike$ lilypond-book --verbose Traceback (most recent call last): File "/sw/bin/lilypond-book", line 60, in ? import lilylib as ly ImportError: No module named lilylib minimac:~ Heike$ I then tried to install Lilypond on Fedora 4, but I'm getting a different problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ lilypond-book --output=/home/Heike/test/ /home/ Heike/lilybooktest.tex lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.6.5 Reading /home/Heike/lilybooktest.tex... Running latex... Dissecting... Writing snippets... Processing... Running lilypond...GNU LilyPond 2.6.5 /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-13.scm:159:1: In procedure dynamic- link in expression (load-extension "libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1" "scm_init_srfi_13"): /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-13.scm:159:1: file: "libguile-srfi- srfi-13-14-v-1", message: "libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" lilypond-book: error: Process /usr/bin/lilypond --formats=ps -- backend eps -I '/home/Heike' snippet-map.ly lily-1476967255 lily-1528880925 lily-1977277722 exited unsuccessfully. Removing `lilybooktest.tex' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ lilypond --verbose GNU LilyPond 2.6.5 LILYPOND_DATADIR="/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.5" LOCALEDIR="/usr/share/locale" Effective prefix: "/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.5" /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-13.scm:159:1: In procedure dynamic- link in expression (load-extension "libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1" "scm_init_srfi_13"): /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-13.scm:159:1: file: "libguile-srfi- srfi-13-14-v-1", message: "libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ I don't really mind which of the two computers I get it to work on. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Heike ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
small notes without small key?
Hello I tried to decrease the size of some notes with \score [ \new Staff { \relative c' { \clef treble \key c \major \time 19/1 \set Staff.fontSize = #-5 g1 a b \set Staff.fontSize = #+1 c1 d e f g a b c d e f g a b c \bar "|." Now i have the Problem that the KeySignature is also small like -5. I have tried \key c \major \time 19/1 \set Staff.fontSize = #-5 \override KeySignature #'font-size = #+1 g1 a b \set Staff.fontSize = #+1 c1 d e f g a b c d e f g a b c \bar "|." but it doesnt work. I didn't get a bigger key. Can anybody help me? Felix ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OS X and lilypond-book
On 24-Jan-06, at 10:49 AM, Anas Ghrab wrote: When I do : lilypond-book --output=out --psfonts clair.tex I get : lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.7.28 Reading clair.tex... Running latex... Dissecting... lilypond-book: error: file not found: screech-boink.ly clari.tex obviously calls a file called screech-boink.ly, which liypond-book can't find. Where's screech-boink.ly ? - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Grace Note Size
I'm doing this to get percussion "drag" notation in lilypond 2.6: \appoggiatura { e16[ e16 ] } \stemUp e4 The grace notes stems are as long as the main note - it would be better if they were smaller. Is there a property I can tweak to do this? I've looked, but couldn't find anything relevant to this in the manual. Thanks, Tim. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
page size?
I have a funny thing. So I'm using 2.6.5 (latest stable) and I have # (set-default-paper-size "tabloid"). What outputs is a file that is letter size, but thinks it's tabloid. Would making a \paper block resolve this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OS X and lilypond-book
I had to delete the line \lilypondfile[quote,noindent]{screech-boink.ly}from the example :http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/An-example-of-a-musicological-document.html---AnasLe 24 janv. 06 à 19:49, Anas Ghrab a écrit :Hi all,When I do : lilypond-book --output=out --psfonts clair.texI get :lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.7.28Reading clair.tex...Running latex...Dissecting...lilypond-book: error: file not found: screech-boink.lyI had the same problem with LilyPond the stable 2.6 versionAnyone has an idea ?Thanks,---Anas___lilypond-user mailing listlilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
segmentation fault
I have installed 2.7.28 on Fedora Core 4. When I try to process a file, I get the following: error: can't open for write: praise.midi: Permission denied /usr/local/bin/lilypond: line 3: 2647 Segmentation fault "/usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond" "$@" I saw the "Permissioned denied" and tried running lilypond as a superuser. It worked fine. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I don't want to keep using superuser. Arthur ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\right and \left-align
Hi to all, In markup do \right and \left-align work in the same way of \center-align? I mean: \markup{\center-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}} \markup{\right-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}} \markup{\left-align { \line{temple 3} \line{2} \line{blocks}} I thought so, but while \center-align behaves correctly (3 lines), the other two commands write on the same line thus producing overlapping lines. What am I missing? Thanks -a- (on macosx 10.3, lily 2.7.27) Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
latest windows binary on win xp pro
http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.7.28-1.mingw.exeI downloaded this build and had the same problem on win xp pro sp2 first a copy failed message during the install, then a pop up message about guile.exe Later I installed it without any problems whatsoever on win2000 pro presumably the install problem is specific to win xp pro. I really cant provide any more information about this without some assistance onwhat to look for or where to look. If anyone has installed these latestbuilds on win xp sp2 or win xp pro sp2 sucessfully I would like to know as I would then try to install lilypond on win xp without service packsas a trial. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page size?
On 24-Jan-06, at 2:49 PM, James E. Bailey wrote: I have a funny thing. So I'm using 2.6.5 (latest stable) and I have #(set-default-paper-size "tabloid"). What outputs is a file that is letter size, but thinks it's tabloid. Would making a \paper block resolve this? If you're using linux, freebsd, or osx, try this command: ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=11x17 file.ps I can't remember what the issue(s) were, but that's what I wrote last summer when I was making shell scripts to do tabloid paper. In case you're interested, here's the whole command that makes a booklet with letter-sized pages (using tabloid-sized paper folded in half) psbook $1.ps | psnup -2 -ptabloid -Pletter | ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=11x17 - tab-$1.pdf Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: small notes without small key?
Felix Hammer wrote: > I have tried > > \key c \major > \time 19/1 > \set Staff.fontSize = #-5 > \override KeySignature #'font-size = #+1 > g1 a b \set Staff.fontSize = #+1 c1 d e f g a b c d e f g a b c > \bar "|." > > but it doesnt work. I didn't get a bigger key. I'm not sure, but it might be illegal to write #+1 Maybe you need to write #1 -- Tom ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user