Re: LilyPond 2.7.32 File Sizes

2006-02-10 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

J L wrote:

Hi,

I think that it has been mentioned several times before that the current 
LilyPond CVS versions produce PDF's with large file sizes. The culprit 
is the embedding of some fonts roughly 20 to 30 times (or once for each 
character that uses that font?). However, LilyPond's own Feta font 
doesn't seem to be one of these. Pango problems???


can you test some more, what determines how often it is embedded?  I 
would expect once for each separate text string.


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Re: Lilypond error for 3 eighth notes

2006-02-10 Thread Kris Shaffer
The grouping which Lilypond chooses by default in this case (as in most  
others) is the standard way of grouping such a figure in common practice  
instrumental music.  In 2/4 and 3/4, any consecutive eighth-notes within a  
measure are typically beamed together (with a few exceptions).   
Incidentally, there are some psychological advantages to following the  
traditional notational practice in this case, as well.  That said, neither  
notation is confusing enough to hinder performance.  All in all, there is  
no right or wrong, but breaking with tradition will not win you anything  
here.  It may even be slightly disadvantageous.



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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:50:40 -0500, Ramana Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



would c'4. c'8 d'[ e'] be what you expect? or what?

On 2/10/06, Ben Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It looks like Lilypond is giving the wrong output here:

{
\time 3/4
c'4. c'8 d' e'
}

The three eighth notes are grouped together. I have no idea why this  
should
happen, because they aren't triplets. If the time signature were 6/8  
then it

might make sense, but otherwise I can't imagine why.

I guess there isn't any right or wrong way to group 8th notes, but  
this

is a strange choice for the default. I'm using version 2.6.5.1.
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Re: alignAboveContext problems together with \lyricsto

2006-02-10 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Eduardo Vieira wrote:


Yes it is a great feature. I just used it tonight in transcribing a song. By
the way, I still have a problem with the setting of the lyrics, and for this
reason I attached its file.
Alright, I managed to put the lyrics of the bass above the clef in the
refrain. But I couldn't force it to go further up:
The 3rd system (measure 7) has these lyrics settings:
The four stanzasThe refrain:
(...) His might.
(...) for youTrust in the One (...)
(...) to gain.[I would like to put the words of the bass on
this line, more or less]
(...) the end.
Bass words -  Trust in the One

I guess different lyrics contexts can't overlap, so what should I do? I
tried Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent, but it didn't help.
 


The easiest trick is to simply use the same lyrics context twice.

If you replace your \score section with the following, you will
get the bass words of the refrain exactly on the same line
(since it's the same Lyrics context) as the third verse.

\score {
   \context ChoirStaff
   {  \staffSoprano
  
   \context Lyrics = firstline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseI }
  
   \context Lyrics = secondline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseII }
  
   \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseIII }
  
   \context Lyrics = fourthline { \lyricsto melodySop \verse }
  
   \staffTenorSaxophone


   \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto baixo \basi }
   \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto chrd  \tebai }
   \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto baixoii  \basii }
   \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto chrdii  \tebaii }
  
   
  
   }
  
   \midi {

   }

   \layout  {
  ...
   }
}


Note that I removed some unnecessary \lyricsmode directives.

 /Mats


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raggedbottom

2006-02-10 Thread Art Hixson
I have a \book in which one of the scores is only three staves long.  
These got spread across the page, of course, and I wanted to have a more 
normal spacing.  Rummaging around in the archives brought up the 
raggedbottom and raggedlastbottom concepts.  I tried both of these, both 
in \paper and \layout, both true and false -- nothing.  I got what I 
wanted by a rather ugly hack which took a lot of research time:


   b4. c8 f,2 g2   
   c2. ~ c2   \bar :|% end of piece
 
   \stopStaff

   \override Staff.Clef #'transparent = ##t
   \override Staff.KeySignature #'transparent = ##t
   \override Score.BarNumber  #'break-visibility = #all-invisible
  
   s1*200 %lots of padding


Isn't there a more elegant way? And what's the meaning of the ragged 
bits if they don't do anything in this situation?


Arthur


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Re: alignAboveContext problems together with \lyricsto

2006-02-10 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Thank you very very much! This solution made me much more enthused about
Lilypond's capabilities.
I thought I'd have to resort to hiding notes or something. Your solution is
much easier.

Eduardo

- Original Message -
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eduardo Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: alignAboveContext problems together with \lyricsto


 Eduardo Vieira wrote:

 Yes it is a great feature. I just used it tonight in transcribing a song.
By
 the way, I still have a problem with the setting of the lyrics, and for
this
 reason I attached its file.
 Alright, I managed to put the lyrics of the bass above the clef in the
 refrain. But I couldn't force it to go further up:
 The 3rd system (measure 7) has these lyrics settings:
 The four stanzasThe refrain:
 (...) His might.
 (...) for youTrust in the One (...)
 (...) to gain.[I would like to put the words of the bass
on
 this line, more or less]
 (...) the end.
 Bass words -  Trust in the One
 
 I guess different lyrics contexts can't overlap, so what should I do? I
 tried Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent, but it didn't help.
 
 
 The easiest trick is to simply use the same lyrics context twice.

 If you replace your \score section with the following, you will
 get the bass words of the refrain exactly on the same line
 (since it's the same Lyrics context) as the third verse.

 \score {
 \context ChoirStaff
 {  \staffSoprano

 \context Lyrics = firstline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseI }

 \context Lyrics = secondline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseII }

 \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto melodySop \verseIII }

 \context Lyrics = fourthline { \lyricsto melodySop
\verse }

 \staffTenorSaxophone

 \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto baixo \basi }
 \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto chrd  \tebai }
 \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto baixoii  \basii }
 \context Lyrics = thirdline { \lyricsto chrdii  \tebaii }

 

 }

 \midi {
 }

 \layout  {
...
 }
 }


 Note that I removed some unnecessary \lyricsmode directives.

   /Mats




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Re: raggedbottom

2006-02-10 Thread Paul Scott

Art Hixson wrote:

I have a \book in which one of the scores is only three staves long.  
These got spread across the page, of course, and I wanted to have a 
more normal spacing.  Rummaging around in the archives brought up the 
raggedbottom and raggedlastbottom concepts.  I tried both of these, 
both in \paper and \layout, both true and false -- nothing.  I got 
what I wanted by a rather ugly hack which took a lot of research time:


   b4. c8 f,2 g2  c2. ~ c2   \bar :|% end of piece
 
   \stopStaff

   \override Staff.Clef #'transparent = ##t
   \override Staff.KeySignature #'transparent = ##t
   \override Score.BarNumber  #'break-visibility = #all-invisible
 s1*200 %lots of padding

Isn't there a more elegant way? And what's the meaning of the ragged 
bits if they don't do anything in this situation?


You didn't tell us what version you are running.  I believe there have 
been times when raggedbottom hasn't been correct.  I just tested a 3 
line example (with 'raggedbottom = ##t' in the paper block) with 2.7.33 
and it worked perfectly.  I have also found in the past that if there 
are other errors in your code (Lilypond input) raggedbottom gives 
undesired results.


Paul Scott



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