Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

[Shamus]

Thibaut Chevalier wrote:

> However, i had to write this complicated markup to obtain a correct "7 /
> b5"
> for semi-diminished chords (instead of the dashed circle).
> 
> -\markup { "-" \super {7/ \hspace #0.2 \teeny {\raise
> #0.3 \flat} 5} }% C dashed circle -> C-7/5b
> 
> It seems that the \flat inside the \super does not behave like the rest of
> the text, and is bigger and to low than the usual superscript text, but I
> could not figure why, reading the Overview of Markup commands. Has anyone a
> clue ? (
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands
> 
> ).


This has always been one of my pet peeves with the chord handling on
lilypond (why can't those sharps and flats be the right size and
correctly placed by default?!? /me head explodes). Anyway, I've been
using (for example)

-\markup { "7" \tiny \raise #1.0 { \flat } "5" }
-\markup { "7" \teeny \raise #1.0 { \sharp } "5" }

with a condensed font and it looks great--the sharp and flat symbols are
proportional to each other and correctly placed.

As far as I know, the \super command does nothing to the size of the
character it's raising (i.e., it's a shortcut method of doing \raise) so
I'm not sure what the issue is there (though I could be wrong about that).

-- Shamus


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Adding () to Chords

[Ezequiel Sierra]

Hello, how can i place a () in every chord like (E)   (A)  (F)?


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Re: figured bass : flat over figure

[Paul Scott]

Trent Johnston wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  

It looks like (even in 2.9.10) that figured bass is broken.  In addition
to preceeding
< 7 _- > with < 6 > you can also get < 7 _- > to work by putting it at
the beginning of a line.  I tried a number of different figures.  Things
seem to break when certain figures precede them.

I will file a bug report for 2.9.10 and mention the possibility of it
being in 2.8.x

Paul Scott




Hi Paul and Jean-marc,

The figured bass is working as should be in 2.9.10 and early versions with
slightly less features.

The figured bass figures are aligned so if you have a 6 4 then a 4 3 the
fours get aligned together so the  4 3 becomes 3 4. To get around this put a
spacer between the figures. For example if they are <6 4>8 <4 3>
to get rid of the alignment use instead <6 4>16 s <4 3>8.
  
It seems to be a little strange to put shorter intervals above longer 
ones but I'm sure you know figured bass better than I do. (I have only 
just finished my first course in chromatic harmony last week).

This is not a bug but a feature for extender lines.
  
Perhaps someone could mention this in the documentation before it occurs 
now.  It didn't occur to me to read that part since I haven't needed 
extension lines yet but this feature of course breaks much of what is 
written above that.


Thanks for the enlightenment.

While we're on the subject does anyone have need for an expansion of 
figured bass to include the ability to (easily) mix in roman numeral 
analysis as well?


Paul



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Re: Python scripts on WindowsXP, was: abc2ly on Windows XP

[Trent Johnston]

- Original Message - 
From: "Dewdman42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: Python scripts on WindowsXP, was: abc2ly on Windows XP


>
> Trent,
>
> When I first installed 2.9.9 I had this problem a lot too.  I found that
if
> I ran the script as follows from the windows command line:
>
>python C:\my_full_path\musicxml2ly.py [options]
>
> That it worked fine.  The trick was using the full path name of the python
> script.  Don't ask me why.  I'm sure this must be an environment issue and
> I'm willing to bet that setting something in the ENV will fix this issue,
> perhaps an addition to PATH or some python related env variable.  I
honestly
> don't know.  But using the full path of the py script seemed to solve that
> issue.  I also had to run it from the lilypond dir...I didn?t try anywhere
> else yet.  I really think that trying all the different versions of
lilypond
> is not the answer for you.  It?s a windows env thing.  Unfortunately, it
> seems the windows version of Lilypond is really just a minimal port..the
> software seems to work, but some installation issues and env issues such
as
> this are, I believe, fixable under windows, but will require some
sleuthing.
> It would definitely be nice if the windows lilyond installer took care of
it
> already.
>
> -steve
> -- 
> View this message in context:
http://www.nabble.com/abc2ly-on-Windows-XP-tf1867180.html#a5123439
> Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com.
>

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your hint. I think there are still problems with the scripts
themselves 2.9.10 python scripts don't work well in both Windows and Linux
versions.

I'll send a bug report.

Trent


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Re: AllAbout Examples

[Graham Percival]

Kieren MacMillan wrote:
So, where am I needed? I can start on some AllAbouts, or whatever. Just 
say the word!


In a few days the technical backend should be ready, but start looking 
at the "tricks and tips" examples.  Some of them are broken, others may 
have been made obsolete by recent features in lilypond, etc.


(are you tracking CVS?)

You could also look at the regression tests and pick out good tricks. 
Some of the regression tests demonstrate neat tricks; others are just 
pure tests.  I want to copy the good tricks into the actual "tips and 
tricks" section, so that users don't need to look in the regression 
tests at all.


p.s. For interested parties, the first "Drunken Moon" review (of two I'm 
anticipating) can be found here: 



Congratulations!

Cheers,
- Graham



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Re: figured bass : flat over figure

[Trent Johnston]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jean-marc LEGRAND" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: figured bass : flat over figure


> Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote:
> >
> >
> > hi list !
> >
> > using XP lily 2.8.3
> >
> > I've discovered a odd thing in figured bass, but it surely has a
scientific explanation !
> >
> >
> > In this example :
> >
> > \version "2.8.3"
> > theorbefigures = \new FiguredBass
> > \figuremode {
> > \override FiguredBass.BassFigure #'font-size = # -2
> > <_->2 <7 _->
> > }
> > theorbe = \new Voice {
> > \clef bass
> > \relative c {
> > d4 g, a2
> > }}
> > \score {
> > \new StaffGroup <<
> > \theorbefigures
> > \new Staff <<\set Staff.midiInstrument = "cello" \theorbe >>
> > >>
> > \layout { }
> > \midi { \tempo 4=80}
> >  }
> >
> >
> > the <7 _-> gives me a 7 UNDER the flat sign.
> >
> > When I change the figured bass to :
> > <6>2 <7 _->
> >
> > the  <7 _-> gives me a 7 ABOVE the flat sign, and that's what I want.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get the flat under the figure, even if there's
another flat before ?
> >
> It looks like (even in 2.9.10) that figured bass is broken.  In addition
> to preceeding
> < 7 _- > with < 6 > you can also get < 7 _- > to work by putting it at
> the beginning of a line.  I tried a number of different figures.  Things
> seem to break when certain figures precede them.
>
> I will file a bug report for 2.9.10 and mention the possibility of it
> being in 2.8.x
>
> Paul Scott
>

Hi Paul and Jean-marc,

The figured bass is working as should be in 2.9.10 and early versions with
slightly less features.

The figured bass figures are aligned so if you have a 6 4 then a 4 3 the
fours get aligned together so the  4 3 becomes 3 4. To get around this put a
spacer between the figures. For example if they are <6 4>8 <4 3>
to get rid of the alignment use instead <6 4>16 s <4 3>8.

This is not a bug but a feature for extender lines.

Trent


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Re: Problem with this file

[Eduardo Vieira]

Ola, Ezequiel! 
The problem of lyrics jumping to another stanza can be solved by doing this: 
Substitute all the constructs: << { "notes" } \\ {  notes }>> with: <<  { 
\voiceOne "notes" } \new Voice { \voiceTwo "notes" } >> \oneVoice 
If you do it this way, you won't probably need to use stemUp and slurUp, 
too. 
Check about \lyricsto, which is more appropriate for polyphony. 

I strongly recommend that you read the manual for more answers and learning. 
Look up check in the manual: "bar number", and "bar types" or "repeats". 
Another remark: 
- The line \context { \ChoirStaff \accepts "Lyrics" } is unnecessary. You're 
not even user such ChoirStaff context. 

Best regards, 

Eduardo 



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To:  
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 4:27 PM 
Subject: Problem with this file 


>> Im having problems with this file 
>> 
>> http://www.ezequielsierra.com/1.txt 
>> 
>> Lyrics Jumping to next staff 
>> Removing Staff Numbering 
>> Adding repeat to the end of the song 
> 
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Re: AllAbout Examples

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hello, all!


I propose using the rendered "Examples" section of the documentation
(now empty) to post a series of AllAbouts, prepared by users,
each being an in-depth example of a narrow set of features [...]


Well, my "little project" is now finally over -- well, at least the  
*premiere* is over, and I can go on to other things (score tweaks,  
preparing for the studio CD recording, etc.).  ;-)


The better news is that I've now got some time to put into some  
Lilypond projects.


So, where am I needed? I can start on some AllAbouts, or whatever.  
Just say the word!


Best wishes,
Kieren.

p.s. For interested parties, the first "Drunken Moon" review (of two  
I'm anticipating) can be found here: . Unfortunately, there's no mention that the  
score was engraved with Lilypond, but you can't win them all!  ;-)



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Re: 'Slanted' fractions

[Erik Sandberg]

On Monday 03 July 2006 16:48, Stewart Holmes wrote:
> I'm trying to do some guitar barring, which involves using the fraction
> 1/2. The markup /fraction gives me a fraction with one number vertically
> above the other. I'd quite like it so that the 1 is in the top left, the 2
> in the bottom right, with a diagonal line inbetween.
>
> Is this possible in Lilypond?

I think the easiest way is to use the string "½". (ok, I know, it's cheating)

-- 
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Re: Remove margin first system

[Ezequiel Sierra]

Great! How can i remove the staff number in each system, cause im  
getting in it in the first staff of each system row

On Jul 3, 2006, at 1:45 AM, Paul Scott wrote:


Ezequiel Sierra wrote:
Im trying to remove the little margin that has the first system in  
the left side. how can i do it?



\layout{
 indent = 0 \in
}

one more thing is there anyway to add number in the begining of  
each verse. lile

1. Blah Blah Blah
2. Blah Blah Blah


in
\lyricmode

do

\set stanza = "1. "
  Blah Blah Blah
\set stanza = "2. "
  Blah Blah Blah

HTH,

Paul Scott








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Re: Coexisting 2.8 with 2.4

[Nicolas Sceaux]

Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Fairchild wrote:
>> Many have invested extensive effort in creating quality scores with various
>> versions.
>
> The "guidelines for writing lilypond files" section of the manual
> attempts to mitigate this.  By writing lilypond files carefully, you can
> reduce the problems associated with upgrading versions.
>
>>  To encourage upgrading there should be some automated mechanism
>> for upward compatibility, or earlier versions should be supported.
>> The string replacement capabilities in convert-ly are useful, but
>> far from
>> adequate.
>
> Additional support for older versions requires more effort.  There are
> three reasons that people work on lilypond:
> 1)  Getting paid for a specific features.  (see the "sponsoring" links)
> 2)  Solving a personal problem (ie if I were a programmer and were
> annoyed by a bug, I could fix the bug and send my patch in).
> 3)  Contributing due to a vague sense of owing something to the
> community.  (such as basically all my doc work)
> [...]

Hadn't I read Graham's post, I'd have made a way less polite answer. 

And I second Graham's remark on the actual upgrade effort when LilyPond
input file are well structured. A few pieces of advice:

1) put your notes in separate files for each voice, without any
   structure around.

--- violin.ly ---
g'4 c''8. e''16 g''8 a'' g''4
...
-

The same way, lyrics, figured bass, etc are in separate files. When I
upgraded Giulio Cesare score from 1.6 to 2.6, I didn't even run
convert-ly on lyrics and figured bass files, for the syntax had not
changed for them. No headaches. And since then, I've upgraded this score
to current CVS without even touching the note files.

2) As soon as you have to use an \override in note files, abstract it
   with dedicated variables or functions, which will be defined in a
   common file.

That way, the upgrade effort for note files is zero. Only the common
definition file has to be upgraded if property names change for
instance.

3) Define music functions and markup commands when you see a repeating
   pattern. Changing the body of music functions is costless. For
   instance, if you have several instances of the following pattern:

   \new Voice = "foo" <<
  \set Voice . autoBeaming = ##f
  \set Staff . instrument = \markup "Character Name"
  ..music..
   >> \lyricsto "foo" \new Lyrics { ..lyrics.. }

then write a music function that will generate that expression. If the
autoBeaming property name changes in the future, there is only 1 point
in you project files that you have to change. The structure files (were
\score blocks are defined) are the most fragile. Abuse of music
functions inside them.

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Problem with this file

[Ezequiel Sierra]

Im having problems with this file

http://www.ezequielsierra.com/1.txt

Lyrics Jumping to next staff
Removing Staff Numbering
Adding repeat to the end of the song



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[no subject]

[Ezequiel Sierra]

Im having problems with this file

http://www.ezequielsierra.com/1.txt

Lyrics Jumping to next staff
Removing Staff Numbering
Adding repeat to the end of the song


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Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

[Paul Scott]

Thibaut Chevalier wrote:

Thanks, it works great !
I personnally prefer the minus sign which is a little shorter.

However, i had to write this complicated markup to obtain a correct "7 
/ b5" for semi-diminished chords (instead of the dashed circle).


-\markup { "-" \super {7/ \hspace #0.2 \teeny 
{\raise #0.3 \flat} 5} }% C dashed circle -> C-7/5b


It seems that the \flat inside the \super does not behave like the 
rest of the text, and is bigger and to low than the usual superscript 
text, but I could not figure why, reading the Overview of Markup 
commands. Has anyone a clue ? 
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands 
).



I believe accidentals are always too large when compared to text.

Paul Scott



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Re: Dash instead of 'm' for minor chords

[Thibaut Chevalier]

Thanks, it works great !
I personnally prefer the minus sign which is a little shorter.  
However, i had to write this complicated markup to obtain a correct "7 / b5" for semi-diminished chords (instead of the dashed circle).

-    \markup { "-" \super {7/ \hspace #0.2 \teeny
{\raise #0.3 \flat} 5} }    % C dashed circle -> C-7/5bIt seems that the \flat inside the \super does not behave like the rest
of the text, and is bigger and to low than the usual superscript text, but I could not figure why, reading the Overview of Markup
commands. Has anyone a clue ?
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Overview-of-text-markup-commands.html#Overview-of-text-markup-commands
).Thibaut.On 30/06/06, Vicente Solsona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I use the same system as Shamus, but I use the dash simbol instad theminus symbol, because I find it to be a bit more polite. So I have then:
jazzyChordsMusic ={   1-\markup {#(ly:export (ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x2013))} % Cm -> C-   % and so on...}I have jazzyChordsMusic and jazzyChordsAdd in a separate "
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Re: figured bass : flat over figure

[Paul Scott]

Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote:



hi list !

using XP lily 2.8.3

I've discovered a odd thing in figured bass, but it surely has a scientific 
explanation !


In this example :

\version "2.8.3"
theorbefigures = \new FiguredBass
\figuremode {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure #'font-size = # -2
<_->2 <7 _->
}
theorbe = \new Voice {
\clef bass
\relative c {
d4 g, a2
}}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\theorbefigures
\new Staff <<\set Staff.midiInstrument = "cello" \theorbe >>
>>
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=80}
 }


the <7 _-> gives me a 7 UNDER the flat sign.

When I change the figured bass to :
<6>2 <7 _->

the  <7 _-> gives me a 7 ABOVE the flat sign, and that's what I want.

Does anyone know how to get the flat under the figure, even if there's another 
flat before ?
  
It looks like (even in 2.9.10) that figured bass is broken.  In addition 
to preceeding
< 7 _- > with < 6 > you can also get < 7 _- > to work by putting it at 
the beginning of a line.  I tried a number of different figures.  Things 
seem to break when certain figures precede them.


I will file a bug report for 2.9.10 and mention the possibility of it 
being in 2.8.x


Paul Scott



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'Slanted' fractions

[Stewart Holmes]

I'm trying to do some guitar barring, which 
involves using the fraction 1/2. The markup /fraction gives me a fraction with 
one number vertically above the other. I'd quite like it so that the 1 is in the 
top left, the 2 in the bottom right, with a diagonal line 
inbetween.
 
Is this possible in Lilypond?
Thanks,
Stewart
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figured bass : flat over figure

[Jean-marc LEGRAND]

hi list !

using XP lily 2.8.3

I've discovered a odd thing in figured bass, but it surely has a scientific 
explanation !


In this example :

\version "2.8.3"
theorbefigures = \new FiguredBass
\figuremode {
\override FiguredBass.BassFigure #'font-size = # -2
<_->2 <7 _->
}
theorbe = \new Voice {
\clef bass
\relative c {
d4 g, a2
}}
\score {
\new StaffGroup <<
\theorbefigures
\new Staff <<\set Staff.midiInstrument = "cello" \theorbe >>
>>
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=80}
 }


the <7 _-> gives me a 7 UNDER the flat sign.

When I change the figured bass to :
<6>2 <7 _->

the  <7 _-> gives me a 7 ABOVE the flat sign, and that's what I want.

Does anyone know how to get the flat under the figure, even if there's another 
flat before ?

Regards.

JMarc



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Re: Complete Solution: alignment of "segno" over a Repeat Sign?

[Richard Schoeller]

OK, I'm not sure why you wouldn't use the following:

% this makes it center aligned.
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark   #'self-alignment-X = #0
% this puts it on the following system if there is a break.
% if there is no break, it has no effect.
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark   #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-invisible
% this makes it align to the bar.
\once \set Score.rehearsalMarkAlignSymbol = #'staff-bar

If you want it to be on the system preceding a break, use this:
\override Score.RehearsalMark   #'break-visibility =
#begin-of-line-invisible

The approaches that you have been tweaking are easily disruppted by
changes in the music that affect the break placement.  The above is far
more automatic.  As was already noted, you need
   \bar "||:"
in order to get a || on the preceding system and a |: on the following.

Dick

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Re: So much for 2.8.5-1 solving problems

[Alard de Boer]

On 03/07/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Terminal:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh
sh: lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> ls
lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
bash: ./lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> su
Password:
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond # lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
bash: lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh: command not found
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond # lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh
bash: lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh: command not found
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond #

Any suggestions ?


Try:

sh ./lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh

(the X Y Z are placeholders for the actual LilyPond version
you downloaded).

--
Groeten,
Alard.

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So much for 2.8.5-1 solving problems

[joelinux]

Terminal:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh
sh: lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> ls
lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
bash: ./lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Lilypond> su
Password:
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond # lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh
bash: lilypond-2.8.5-1.linux.sh: command not found
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond # lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh
bash: lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux.sh: command not found
SuSE:/home/jl/Lilypond #  

Any suggestions ?


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