Tr : Re: figured bass above bass line

2006-07-05 Thread Jean-marc LEGRAND







Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote:

...
But now, I'de like to lower the figure line, and I don't know which property 
to use within
FiguredBass context : can, anyone help me ?



Read the section on Vertical Spacing in the manual.
The mechanism is exactly the same for FiguredBass
as for Staff, so you want to override
FiguredBass.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent
instead. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/FiguredBass.html#FiguredBass
for information on the default value.

Last thing:  the link
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/NewBassFigure.html#NewBassFigure
seems to be dead...


Where did you find this link?

   /Mats




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RE: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...

2006-07-05 Thread Anthony Youngman
Thanks Graham.

The section I needed was 9.2.6 (I think 9.2.3 simply describes what I
said I'd tried to do...)

And no disrespect, but I think Thibault is spot on with his first
sentence. The lilypond documentation is the size of a small novel!
Finding what you're looking for isn't easy.

And I know it's small comfort to you on the lily list, but I'm on a list
where questions are often answered with it's in the manual. Thing is,
that manual is maybe 20 volumes, MOST of which are individually bigger
than the lily manual. The problem is that if you keep the manual small
you have to leave things out, if you put everything in people can't see
the wood for the trees. What do you do?

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Graham Percival [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 July 2006 16:37
To: Anthony Youngman
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...

Anthony Youngman wrote:
 Is there any way I can change its value within the Score or Staff
 context, and have it take effect at Voice level? I did try
 
 \set MultiMeasureRest.expand-limit = 1

Look at \set in the index!  This will direct you to 9.2.3.  The VERY 
FIRST EXAMPLE of \set involves changing a property at the Score level!

Of course, for expand-limit you probably want \override instead.

 On a more general level, the use of \override seems quite common. It
 would be nice to be able to change the defaults - there are various
 places where lilypond and I disagree as to what is normal. I don't
 remember seeing anything about it in the manual,

4.6 Style sheets ?!
9.2.6 Changing context default settings ?!?!

Anthony, please read the manual.  I've spent literally over *100 HOURS* 
writing and updating manual since April.  When people complain about the

lack of info in the docs, when that info is clearly *IN* the docs -- in 
some cases, when that info has been in the docs for years -- I really 
wonder why I bother.

I mean, if I stopped working on lilypond and worked at McDonalds serving

fries, I would have made over $800 in that time.  That would cover two 
months of rent.

- Graham, LilyPond Documentation Editor.  For now.


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Reading the fine manual.. hint [was Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...]

2006-07-05 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
And no disrespect, but I think Thibault is spot on with his firstsentence. The lilypond documentation is the size of a small novel!
Finding what you're looking for isn't easy.Personally, I find it easier to work with the one page html version and just let the browser search for hopefully good keywords. (The pdf version does not work as well due to the search being slower and I cannot seem to copy text from it..)
/Simon
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baroque-like “scordatura”

2006-07-05 Thread Marino Lagomarsino
Thanks for your response!


Regards


marino



 Hi there!

 First, let me congratulate you all for your so successful efforts.

 Then, one questions:


 Is it possible to align vertically two key accidentals? It would be useful
 to write correctly a baroque-like “scordatura”  (with \set
 Staff.keySignature = #'); in my particular case, a violin piece should begin
 with an A Major key signature, and at the same time I should neutralize
 every key sharp with a lower octave – vertically aligned flat: so that the
 5th line sharp would be vertically aligned to a 1st space flat, and so on.
 If it were possible, the flat put to neutralize the 3rd space sharp should
 have the c’ ledger line; again: is it workable?

 Thank you for your help, and thanks again for your great job.


 Marino Lagomarsino
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 http://www.nabble.com/baroque-like-scordatura-t1829198.html#a4990126
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Re: Reading the fine manual.. hint [was Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...]

2006-07-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi, Simon (et al.):

Personally, I find it easier to work with the one page html version  
and just let the browser search for hopefully good keywords.
(The pdf version does not work as well due to the search being  
slower and I cannot seem to copy text from it..)


Interesting...
I find the PDF version *by far* my preferred source: the search is  
plenty fast enough for me, and I have no problem copying text.


As they say, that's what makes the world go around!  =)

Best,
Kieren.



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Re: midi2ly

2006-07-05 Thread Jim Sizelove

Philip wrote:

I'm have become familiar with the basics of this software, and am exploring some
more advanced features.  One particular interest to me was converting MIDI files
to .LY format.

I'm running the latest vershon of LilyPond on Mac OS X v. 10.4.7 on an Intel
processor.  I am also a Linux dabbler, so it was no big problem for me to
discover that midi2ly uses the terminal.  However, when I tried to run the
software, I was told that the command midi2ly was not found.  Is there
something I'm overlooking?  I will admit that, while I'm modestly familiar with
BASH, I haven't used it in OS X much.  Could that be the issue?

Thanks for your help.  LilyPond seems to be a very good piece of software.


Yes, you almost certainly need to set your path.  See the page on Notes 
for the MacOS X app in the Running LilyPond section of the 
documentation. 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond/Notes-for-the-MacOS-X-app.html


hth,
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Re: Problem Adding Lyrics to Poly

2006-07-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Eduardo Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello!
Replace this line:
  \new Voice = staffCinco { \voiceOne { bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g} }
{ \voiceTwo f4 f }  \oneVoice 

With this:
 { \voiceOne { bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g} }  { \voiceTwo f4 f }   
\oneVoice


I guess that you mean
 { \voiceOne { bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g} } \new Voice { \voiceTwo 
f4 f }   

\oneVoice

  /Mats



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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I hope you know about Mutopia, http://www.mutopiaproject.org/

  /Mats

Quoting Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Okay... this may seem like a strange place for this, but it's seem 
the best place to put it in order to get attention/opinions.


What I'm proposing is some kind of a collaboration between Lilypond 
users to submit their scores to an online score (the scores being 
engraved from public domain sources, etc.). The money that is made 
from the sale of scores (either pdf/ly/both files) could then be 
distributed in 3 ways:


1) The upkeep of running the store
2) The creator of the score
3) The community

Number 3: A chunk of the money would go into a piggy bank of sorts, 
which would be used to, upon application, help fund sponsorship of 
Lilypond features.


That's me out... now let the shooting down commence (hopefully not).

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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Stewart Holmes
Yes. Harsh this may sound, but how much of the music on Mutopia would you be 
satisfied to print out, and use yourself? From a quick browse through 
various sections, I have to say that a large amount of the music on there is 
fairly poorly engraved. My proposition is for much more strict quality 
control... after all, nobody will pay money for music unless it looks 
professional.


- Original Message - 
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Lilypond store?



I hope you know about Mutopia, http://www.mutopiaproject.org/

  /Mats

Quoting Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Okay... this may seem like a strange place for this, but it's seem the 
best place to put it in order to get attention/opinions.


What I'm proposing is some kind of a collaboration between Lilypond users 
to submit their scores to an online score (the scores being engraved from 
public domain sources, etc.). The money that is made from the sale of 
scores (either pdf/ly/both files) could then be distributed in 3 ways:


1) The upkeep of running the store
2) The creator of the score
3) The community

Number 3: A chunk of the money would go into a piggy bank of sorts, which 
would be used to, upon application, help fund sponsorship of Lilypond 
features.


That's me out... now let the shooting down commence (hopefully not).

Stewart








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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Nicholas Bailey

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On 5 Jul 2006, at 2:09 pm, Stewart Holmes wrote:

Yes. Harsh this may sound, but how much of the music on Mutopia  
would you be satisfied to print out, and use yourself? From a quick  
browse through various sections, I have to say that a large amount  
of the music on there is fairly poorly engraved. My proposition is  
for much more strict quality control... after all, nobody will pay  
money for music unless it looks professional.


Oh yeah? And when did you last see a set of orchestral parts that  
looked professional? Some of them are even photocopies of (badly)  
handwritten manuscripts!


Isn't that why Han-Wen started writing Lilypond in the first place?

That said, anything to increase the profile of Open Software and  
increase the quality of music publishing has to be good, so good luck  
to you. I don't think existing publishers will agree with me though :)


Nick/.

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What to do now?

2006-07-05 Thread joelinux
The lilycode I worked so hard on, for so many hours doesn't work anymore.  Now 
what do I have to do to correct it?
I want top quality engraved notation no matter how many hours it takes.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cd 
/home/jl/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD 
lilypond TheOneThatGotAway.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.8.5
Rebuilding FontConfig cache /home/jl/.lilypond-2.8.5-font.cache-1. this may 
take a while...
Processing `TheOneThatGotAway.ly'
Parsing...
error: Incorrect lilypond version: 2.6.0 (2.7.38, 2.8.5)
error: Consider updating the input with the convert-ly script
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][16]
Interpreting music...
MIDI output to `TheOneThatGotAway.midi'...
Track...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `TheOneThatGotAway.ps'...
Converting to `TheOneThatGotAway.pdf'...
`gs -q  -dSAFER  -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4  -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH 
-r1200  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=TheOneThatGotAway.pdf -c .setpdfwrite 
-f TheOneThatGotAway.ps' failed (256)
error: failed files: TheOneThatGotAway.ly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD


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RE: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Anthony Youngman



I notice you're in the UK too ...

I don't know how it works, but a lot of the stuff I'm doing 
may be licensable but not public domain. Especially stuff that's licenced with 
the Performing Rights Society, we may be able to typeset it ourselves, then sell 
(probably printed only :-( parts of stuff that's still in copyright. Only snag 
is, we'd need to keep good books in order to make returns to the 
PRS.

I need to repeat (ianal) but I *think* we can do this, we 
need to check up on the legalities before we try it for 
real...

Cheers,
Wol


From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Stewart HolmesSent: 05 July 2006 
00:17To: lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Lilypond 
store?


Okay... this may seem like a strange place for 
this, but it's seem the best place to put it in order to get 
attention/opinions.

What I'm proposing is some kind of a collaboration 
between Lilypond users to submit their scores to an online score (the scores 
being engraved from public domain sources, etc.). The money that is made from 
the sale of scores (either pdf/ly/both files) could then be distributed in 3 
ways:

1) The upkeep of running the store
2) The creator of the score
3) The community

Number 3: A chunk of the money would go into a 
piggy bank of sorts, which would be used to, upon application, help fund 
sponsorship of Lilypond features.

That's me out... now let the shooting down commence 
(hopefully not).

Stewart
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Re: Reading the fine manual.. hint [was Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...]

2006-07-05 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
On 7/5/06, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Simon (et al.): Personally, I find it easier to work with the one page html version and just let the browser search for hopefully good keywords. (The pdf version does not work as well due to the search being
 slower and I cannot seem to copy text from it..)Interesting...I find the PDF version *by far* my preferred source: the search isplenty fast enough for me, and I have no problem copying text.
hmm, it seems that the not being able to copy was a PEBKAC error.. but FWIW I still find the search faster in the html version (and the search while typing behavior better) (using Firefox)
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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Stewart Holmes



Wol,

Thanks... this is something I haven't considered, I 
don't really have any experience with the PRS. My original intention was to 
source entirely from public domain sources, but this raises an interesting 
issue.

As a general thing... I'm probably going to let 
this topic run for another few days maybe, and see about any other responses. 
Then, if everything is reasonably positive, I'll start to try and get people to 
volunteer to help with this project.

Thanks,
Stewart

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony Youngman 
  
  To: Stewart Holmes ; lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 3:37 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Lilypond store?
  
  I notice you're in the UK too ...
  
  I don't know how it works, but a lot of the stuff I'm 
  doing may be licensable but not public domain. Especially stuff that's 
  licenced with the Performing Rights Society, we may be able to typeset it 
  ourselves, then sell (probably printed only :-( parts of stuff that's still in 
  copyright. Only snag is, we'd need to keep good books in order to make returns 
  to the PRS.
  
  I need to repeat (ianal) but I *think* we can do this, we 
  need to check up on the legalities before we try it for 
  real...
  
  Cheers,
  Wol
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Stewart HolmesSent: 05 July 2006 
  00:17To: lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Lilypond 
  store?
  
  
  Okay... this may seem like a strange place for 
  this, but it's seem the best place to put it in order to get 
  attention/opinions.
  
  What I'm proposing is some kind of a 
  collaboration between Lilypond users to submit their scores to an online score 
  (the scores being engraved from public domain sources, etc.). The money that 
  is made from the sale of scores (either pdf/ly/both files) could then be 
  distributed in 3 ways:
  
  1) The upkeep of running the store
  2) The creator of the score
  3) The community
  
  Number 3: A chunk of the money would go into a 
  piggy bank of sorts, which would be used to, upon application, help fund 
  sponsorship of Lilypond features.
  
  That's me out... now let the shooting down 
  commence (hopefully not).
  
  Stewart
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Re: What to do now?

2006-07-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Read the section on Updating Old Files in the manual.

  /Mats

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

The lilycode I worked so hard on, for so many hours doesn't work 
anymore.  Now what do I have to do to correct it?

I want top quality engraved notation no matter how many hours it takes.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cd 
/home/jl/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD 
lilypond TheOneThatGotAway.ly

GNU LilyPond 2.8.5
Rebuilding FontConfig cache /home/jl/.lilypond-2.8.5-font.cache-1. 
this may take a while...

Processing `TheOneThatGotAway.ly'
Parsing...
error: Incorrect lilypond version: 2.6.0 (2.7.38, 2.8.5)
error: Consider updating the input with the convert-ly script
Interpreting music... [8][16]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [3][6][9][12][15][16]
Interpreting music...
MIDI output to `TheOneThatGotAway.midi'...
Track...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `TheOneThatGotAway.ps'...
Converting to `TheOneThatGotAway.pdf'...
`gs -q  -dSAFER  -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4  -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE 
-dBATCH -r1200  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite 
-sOutputFile=TheOneThatGotAway.pdf -c .setpdfwrite -f 
TheOneThatGotAway.ps' failed (256)

error: failed files: TheOneThatGotAway.ly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/lilypond/LilyPondProjects/08-TheOneThatGotAway-T-4AD


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Re: Chords with ()

2006-07-05 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 07:19, Ezequiel Sierra wrote:
 How can i set it to all the chords? not just one?

You could probably do something like: (untested)

#(define (parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion
context)
  (make-markup #'line (list ( (ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass 
inversion context) 

and then use 
\set chordNameFunction = #parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names

(The (make-markup ..) syntax is probably incorrect, because I don't know that 
syntax by heart, but you can probably use displayMusic to figure out the 
correct syntax.)

Erik

 On Jul 4, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Eduardo Vieira wrote:
  Hi! Check this message for an answer:
  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00708.html
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 6:52 PM
  Subject: Chords with ()
 
  Does anyone know how to put the chords inside () like,
 
  (A)  (Em)
 
 
  Regards
 
 

-- 
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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 15:09, Stewart Holmes wrote:
 Yes. Harsh this may sound, but how much of the music on Mutopia would you
 be satisfied to print out, and use yourself? From a quick browse through
 various sections, I have to say that a large amount of the music on there
 is fairly poorly engraved. My proposition is for much more strict quality
 control... after all, nobody will pay money for music unless it looks
 professional.

I suggest that you start a discussion thread on mutopia's mailing lists: If 
you have constructive ideas on how to create an archive of high-quality 
public domain notes, then I would strongly recommend you to use your ideas to 
improve mutopia; if that's not possible, use mutopia as a base for creating 
such an archive (i.e., fork the mutopia project).

-- 
Erik


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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Stewart Holmes
I suggest that you start a discussion thread on mutopia's mailing lists: 
If

you have constructive ideas on how to create an archive of high-quality
public domain notes, then I would strongly recommend you to use your ideas 
to
improve mutopia; if that's not possible, use mutopia as a base for 
creating

such an archive (i.e., fork the mutopia project).


Unfortunately I don't really have constructive ideas how to improve it; now 
there's a fairly large volume of work on there, it becomes quite a large 
task to tidy the whole lot up. I propose to start from scratch, and only 
accept scores of a high quality. Additionally, people will be more motivated 
to do so, due to a potential return on their investment of time.


Now I know that Lilypond is Open Source, and a very fine piece of software 
at that, as are many other open source projects. But I believe that there 
comes a point when the quality of open source becomes hard to regulate, 
especially when everything is free. Take the example of Lilypond and 
sponsorship; people are asked to help pay the costs towards development... 
which, in my opinion, helps to keep the quality high.


Phew, that was a bit rambly,
Stewart 



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Re: Reading the fine manual.. hint [was Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...]

2006-07-05 Thread Walter Hofmeister
On 7/5/06 1:58 AM, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 And no disrespect, but I think Thibault is spot on with his first
 sentence. The lilypond documentation is the size of a small novel!
 Finding what you're looking for isn't easy.

The size of the manual for any capable notation software that I have seen is
always sizeable. The capabilities that Lilypond has dictates that the manual
will be quite large.
Like any other notation software package, you will need to spend some
time getting to know the software and this will make it easier to navigate
the manual. I have personally found the index to be a fast way to find
things. By changing things significantly, all of the time that longer time
users have spent learning where things are in the documentation will be
lost. Personally, I think that the documentation works pretty well as it is
organizationally.  
 Personally, I find it easier to work with the one page html version and just
 let the browser search for hopefully good keywords.
 (The pdf version does not work as well due to the search being slower and I
 cannot seem to copy text from it..)
 
 
 /Simon
 
Some people have responded that they prefer the pdf version or the one large
html version, I personally prefer the html version not on one page (the
linked one). I think that the current method of delivery in the
documentation tarball satisfies all of these preferences.
The section that I think needs improvement is the documentation to make
tweeks easier. Lilypond is a very powerful piece of software and I find that
where I spend the most time is trying to construct tweeks.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Walter Hofmeister




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Re: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Trevor Bača

On 7/5/06, Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I suggest that you start a discussion thread on mutopia's mailing lists:
 If
 you have constructive ideas on how to create an archive of high-quality
 public domain notes, then I would strongly recommend you to use your ideas
 to
 improve mutopia; if that's not possible, use mutopia as a base for
 creating
 such an archive (i.e., fork the mutopia project).

Unfortunately I don't really have constructive ideas how to improve it;


Well -- and this is a straw-man argument -- there's always the example
of SlashDot and other projects with 'community content-filtering'. If
the mutopia crew *could*, somehow, establish a system of community
review, well then, maybe mutopia could become a repository of really
professional-looking stuff.

The difficulty, I think, is that it's probably easier to evaluate the
wittiness of others' comments (or the relevance of news stories, as on
SlashDot) than it is to evaluate the professional-ness of music
engraving. So even if mutopia set up some sort of community filtering,
it's not clear that the filtering would work.

Dunno.


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Fw: Lilypond store?

2006-07-05 Thread Stewart Holmes

On 7/5/06, Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I suggest that you start a discussion thread on mutopia's mailing 
 lists:

 If
 you have constructive ideas on how to create an archive of 
 high-quality
 public domain notes, then I would strongly recommend you to use your 
 ideas

 to
 improve mutopia; if that's not possible, use mutopia as a base for
 creating
 such an archive (i.e., fork the mutopia project).

Unfortunately I don't really have constructive ideas how to improve it;


Well -- and this is a straw-man argument -- there's always the example
of SlashDot and other projects with 'community content-filtering'. If
the mutopia crew *could*, somehow, establish a system of community
review, well then, maybe mutopia could become a repository of really
professional-looking stuff.

The difficulty, I think, is that it's probably easier to evaluate the
wittiness of others' comments (or the relevance of news stories, as on
SlashDot) than it is to evaluate the professional-ness of music
engraving. So even if mutopia set up some sort of community filtering,
it's not clear that the filtering would work.

Dunno.



To an extent yes... but some of Mutopia's scores are so badly done that I
really don't know how they were accepted in the first place. I hate to user
another's work as an example in this case, but I think it's the best way to
illustrate my point:
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/SorF/O1/sor_op_1_5_2/sor_op_1_5_2-a4.pdf

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Re: Reading the fine manual.. hint [was Re: MultiMeasureRest - trying to be clever ...]

2006-07-05 Thread Andrew Thorne


 Hi,Simon(etal.):  Personally,Ifinditeasiertoworkwiththeonepagehtmlversion andjustletthebrowsersearchforhopefullygoodkeywords. (Thepdfversiondoesnotworkaswellduetothesearchbeing slowerandIcannotseemtocopytextfromit..)  Interesting... IfindthePDFversion*byfar*mypreferredsource:thesearchis plentyfastenoughforme,andIhavenoproblemcopyingtext.  Astheysay,that'swhatmakestheworldgoaround!=)  Best, Kieren.

Hello everyone,

Call me old-fashioned but I always prefer to print out the PDF manual and
have that to one side whilst I'm working. I don't really consider it a waste 
of paper as it's the book I read most by a long way.

I love Lilypond and wish I'd never wasted £250 on Finale.

Andrew
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Re: Chords with ()

2006-07-05 Thread Ezequiel Sierra

What is the problem here?

http://www.ezequielsierra.com/1.txt

i did as told, still not working


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Clarifying otave check (\octave) in Section 6.2.2

2006-07-05 Thread Charles Cave
I am exploring the use of the feature described in section 6.2.2 of
checking that the notes are in the correct octave.

The manual says:

Octave checks make octave errors easier to correct: a note may be followed by 
=quotes which
indicates what its absolute octave should be. In the following example,
\relative c’’ { c=’’ b=’ d,=’’ }
the d will generate a warning, because a d'' is expected (because b' to d'' is 
only a third), but
a d' is found. In the output, the octave is corrected to be a d'' and the next 
note is calculated
relative to d'' instead of d'.

Question

Specifing ' is fine for octaves above middle C, but specifying , for octave 
below doesnt work.

Here is a test program:

\version 2.8.3


\score {
\new Staff  
\relative c''' {
   c b a g f e d
  % should now have reached the C above middle C
  
  c='' b a g f e d
  % should now have reached Middle C
  c=' b a g f e d
  % should now have reached the C below Middle C

  % Problemhow can I check if the next c is
  % The C one octave below middle C?
  
  c= b a g f e d

  c=, b a g f e d % this doesnt work 

}

\layout { }
}


Error:

octavecheck.ly:20:6: warning: octave check failed; expected c', found: c,
  
  c=, b a g f e d












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I have made some clarification on the \octave directive

2006-07-05 Thread Charles Cave
I have been struggling to understand the documentation of \octave
in section 6.2.2  (Lilypond 2.8.3 documentation - PDF file page 85)
 
The key to how this works is if the following sentence is reworded:
This checks that pitch (without quotes) yields pitch (with quotes) in 
\relative mode. If not,
a warning is printed, and the octave is corrected.
 
 I have a suggestion for the documentaion. Change the above sentence to 
 read
 
This checks that pitch (without quotes) yields pitch (with quotes) in 
\relative mode
compared to the note given in the \relative directive. 
 
 I thought the \octave was referred to the absolute octave if you 
 referred to Middle C   as c'
 
 I hope this suggestion helps.
 
 Now I am using the  The \octave directive to make sure I am in the
 correct octave.
 
 \version 2.8.3
 \score {
 \new Staff  
 \relative c''' {
   c b a g f e d
   % should now have reached the C above middle C
 
   \octave c''
   c b a g f e d
  % should now have reached Middle C
 
   \octave c'
   c \clef bass b a g f e d
   % should now have reached the C below Middle C
 
   \octave c
   c b a g f e d
 
   \octave c
   c b a g f e d
 
   % Now lets start a new melody on the C above Middle C
   \octave c''
   \clef treble
   c d c b c
 }
 
 \layout { }
 }
 
 
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