Making an object not take up vertical space?
Is it possible to make an object (e.g., a text markup) not take up any
vertical space?
I've been using Mats' tip for inserting extra vertical space, to good
effect, e.g. (customized):
pushup = #(define-music-function (parser location padding) (number?)
#{
s1*0^\markup { \pad-markup #$(* 0.5 padding) \null }
#})
pushdown = #(define-music-function (parser location padding) (number?)
#{
s1*0_\markup { \pad-markup #$(* 0.5 padding) \null }
#})
and then
\pushup #3
wherever I want to insert 3 staff spaces of vertical space above a staff,
or
\pushdown #4
to insert 4 staff spaces of vertical space below a staff.
But there's one place in the score I'm working on where Lilypond makes
unnecessary vertical space for a text markup (I reported this to
bug-lilypond), and I wish I could do the opposite, like:
\pulldown #3
or
\pushup #-3
to insert -3 staff spaces of vertical space above a staff, thus "pulling
down" the staff above it.
I tried changing 0.5 in the above definition to -0.5, but it didn't work,
even with very large numbers.
So the thing to do would be to prevent the offending text markup from
being accounted for in Lilypond's vertical spacing routines.
Is this possible?
Marcus
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Eduardo Vieira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know why this e-mail didn't make it to the Lilypond list, but, anyhow, have you ever checked the program FOMUS (http://common-lisp.net/project/fomus/doc/)? If you think of algorithimic composition and working with Lisp and Scheme, that might be interesting. Personally, Scheme and Common Lisp are still Greek to me, but I just came across that link and thought would be useful, as the program offers Lilypond and MusicXML output. It looks very interesting, Eduardo. Thanks for the link. While we're on the topic of Scheme/Lisp, does anyone have any recommended tutorials, especially for non-/novice programmers? I've found these two resources to be helpful so far: Revised(5) Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/ftpdir/scheme-reports/r5rs-html/r5rs_toc.html Teach Yourself Scheme in Fixnum Days by Dorai Sitaram, 1998-9 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/languages/scheme/tutorial-dsitaram/t-y-scheme.html ...but I'm new to all of this, and would appreciate any suggestions. The Lilypond documentation (Appendix B: Scheme tutorial) links to http://www.schemers.org/ , but that site doesn't reveal much online documentation. (Maybe one of the printed textbooks -- http://www.schemers.org/Documents/#all-texts -- would be useful? Any recommendations?) Would documentation on Guile or Lisp be relevant? I'm not clear on what the differences are. Thanks in advance, Marcus ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Another sponsorship, hopefully can be done cheaply?
How much would this cost to sponsor? I've tried to describe it as best I
could below, and provided a sample of what the proposed source code might
look like and a description of what the output would be, please let me know
if there is any confusion about what I'm describing:
Begin:
% PROPOSED SAMPLE SOURCE CODE BEGIN
twoWays = \transpose c c' {
% C7b5
1
% FMaj7
1
}
<<
\new FretBoards \twoWays
\new Voice \twoWays
>>
% PROPOSED SAMPLE SOURCE CODE END
The above source code example would generate a PDF with normal staff of
whole note chords
and the following fretboards painted above it in the newly proposed
"FretBoards" context:
\markup \fret-diagram-terse #"2;x;2;3;1;x;"
\markup \fret-diagram-terse #"x;x;3;5;5;5;"
Note that the new "FretBoards" context ascertained the fret markup by
mapping the octivised notes in the chords specified, to an array of the
fretboard
with a certain tuning and number of strings. Additionally it "windowed"
into that array based on a "maximum-stretch"
of 5 frets, meaning that it will only search for frets that give the desired
note within that stretch range.
(most guitar chords do not exceed a 5 fret stretch so that is a good
default). It would move up the strings and
"drop a dot" onto whatever frets produce the desired notes (after
transpose).
Other Method and Specification notes:
0) A new context will be developed called FretBoards, it will generate
fretboards based upon the provided chords.
1) The user would code the notes as chords for their fretted instrument
using standard lilypond chord syntax of duration (including
octaves, octive jump behaviour follows lowest note of previous chord just
like today)
2) At a minimum the lowest note in each chord will have a string number
specified in standard string number notation of: \n where n is the string
number. This will indicate to the algorithm where to start looking on the
fretboard for the notes of the chord to generate the fret dots. (Note it
is important that no more than one string number be required, so that people
can re-use their notes without having string numbers printing all over the
place)
3) The new fretboards context will generate the fretboard diagrams of the
specified chords
4) It will ascertain the fret dots based on a maximum-stretch parameter and
tunings parameter.Maximum stretch shall default to 5 frets, this is the
"window" in which the algorithm shall look for the desired notes on the
strings within the fret range determined by the on mandatory string number
named to generate the dots.
5) Additionally FretBoards will have properties to set tuning, number of
strings, number of frets, if unspecified standard guitar tuning (e a d g b
e) and 6 strings will take effect.
6) The generated fretboards will only contain dot markers, (most guitarists
can figure out intuitively what needs to be barred). Internally the terse
fretboards can be used, however neck position should indicate the lowest
fret number (in arabic numerals please).So barre indication and finger
number indication is BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS ENHANCEMENT, (just the dots
are good enough).More than one dot on a string should not occur or be
allowed.
7) The FretBoards chords will participate in transposition and the
generated fret boards will reflect that transpose.
8) NO CHORD NAMES will be generated above the fretboards because any
musical chord can theoretically have many different names.Generating
chord names above the fretboards is BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS ENHANCEMENT,
people can use \markup for that.Additionally root names, bass names, or
anything theoretical is not being requested, this enhancement is meant to be
a simple mapping of lilypond notated chord stacks to a fretboard, so that
fretboards can now participate in transpose and be entered "by note" which
is more natural for most musicians.
9) The FretBoards staff will accept \markup attached to the chords
specified, this markup will be generated relative/glued to the generated
fret diagram
10) A boolean shall be included to suppress adjacent duplicate fretboards,
just like duplicate ChordNames can be suppressed today
11) The FretBoards staff additionally will inherit many of the same
properties as Lyrics and ChordNames do for positioning, fonts, etc.
Thanks
Rick
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Re: about rightHandFinger
\override StringFinger #'digit-names = #' #("p" "i" "m" "a" "e")
This should be the default IMHO.
Thomas
> Is there any way to change the P and I for a lowercase p and i?
>
> digit-names (unknown): #(P I m a x)
>
> Names for string finger digits.
> # (p i m a x)
>
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RE: Vertical adjustment of \markup
If you put that override in the \layout block on whatever context(s) you want
it applied to, then it will and you wont have to see it amongst your music
code.
Palmer, Ralph wrote:
>
> Thanks, Trevor.
>
> Will \override (as opposed to \once \override) give all subsequent
> TextSpanner entries the same staff-padding? or the same edge-text
> setting, for that matter?
>
> Ralph
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:06 AM
> To: Palmer, Ralph; lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: RE: Vertical adjustment of \markup
>
>
> Hi Ralph
>
> This should do what you want:
>
> Insert
> \override TextSpanner #'staff-padding = #9
>
> Change the '9' to give the height you want
>
> Trevor
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
>> Of Palmer, Ralph
>> Sent: 17 October 2006 12:40
>> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>> Subject: Vertical adjustment of \markup
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm running Lilypond 2.8.4.1 on WinXP SP2.
>>
>> In the following snippet, I'd like to move "rit" upward. In the score
>> the snippet comes from, the "rit" almost collides with a c'''
> notehead.
>> I've tried \pad-markup, but Lilypond choked - tried to compile
> forever.
>> I suspect I'm formating the section incorrectly, but I can't figure
>> out the correct format.
>>
>> snippet:
>>
>>
>> \version "2.8.4.1"
>> \include "english.ly"
>>
>> Music = {
>> \clef treble
>> \key c \major
>> \time 3/4
>>
>> \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #(cons (markup #:italic
>> "rit" ) "")
>> d''16\startTextSpan c''' e'' a'' c''' e'' |
>> b''16 ds'' fs'' b'' f'' b''\stopTextSpan }
>>
>> \score {
>>\Music
>>}
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again for your help,
>>
>> Ralph
>> +
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>> Energy/Administrative Coordinator
>> Keene State College
>> Keene, NH 03435-2502
>> Phone: 603-358-2230
>> Cell: 603-209-2903
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Re: pb with epsfile
The good syntaxe :
La bonne syntaxe est :
\version "2.9"
\score {
\relative c {
\clef bass
c^\markup { \epsfile #0 #5 #"tirer.eps" }
}
}
tirer.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Tr : pb with epsfile
I'm so sorry : the right log file is :
# -*-compilation-*-
impossible de changer le répertoire de travail pour : C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais
Traitement de « C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/essai.ly »
Analyse syntaxique...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/tirer.eps:10:0: ERREUR : syntax
error, unexpected DIGIT
0 32 translate
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/tirer.eps:20:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter rstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/tirer.eps:21:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter gstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/tirer.eps:22:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter bstr readstring pop}
Bye
JMArc
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Jean-marc LEGRAND pb with epsfile
Hi list.
I've been through the list, tests and doc, but I can't find an answer.
Using 2.9 on XP
I'm trying to insert an eps file into a music for the viol.
Here's my essai.ly:
\version "2.9"
\include "tirer.eps"
\score {
\clef bass
\relative c {
c^\markup { \epsfile #0 #5 #"tirer.eps" }
}
}
Here's the eps : (See attached file: tirer.eps)
It was screated that way :
from the original fac simile (scanned into a pdf file), I selected the
"trembler" glyph,
copy to the clipboard,
and copy it into paint to get a bitmap
I open it with Inskape , make : vectorize the bitmap + simplify + save as
"tirer.eps" with "create a
box..." and "convert text into..." activated (I'm not sure of my english
translation of the
menus...).
Here's my essai.log :
# -*-compilation-*-
impossible de changer le répertoire de travail pour : C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais
Traitement de « C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/essai.ly »
Analyse syntaxique...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:10:0: ERREUR : syntax
error, unexpected
DIGIT 0 35 translate
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:20:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter rstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:21:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter gstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:22:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter bstr readstring pop}
Does anyone know what happens to me ? Is this a question of eps bad conversion ?
Best regards !
JMarc
tirer.eps
Description: PostScript document
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RE: Vertical adjustment of \markup
Thanks, Trevor.
Will \override (as opposed to \once \override) give all subsequent
TextSpanner entries the same staff-padding? or the same edge-text
setting, for that matter?
Ralph
-Original Message-
From: Trevor Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:06 AM
To: Palmer, Ralph; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Vertical adjustment of \markup
Hi Ralph
This should do what you want:
Insert
\override TextSpanner #'staff-padding = #9
Change the '9' to give the height you want
Trevor
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Palmer, Ralph
> Sent: 17 October 2006 12:40
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Vertical adjustment of \markup
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm running Lilypond 2.8.4.1 on WinXP SP2.
>
> In the following snippet, I'd like to move "rit" upward. In the score
> the snippet comes from, the "rit" almost collides with a c'''
notehead.
> I've tried \pad-markup, but Lilypond choked - tried to compile
forever.
> I suspect I'm formating the section incorrectly, but I can't figure
> out the correct format.
>
> snippet:
>
>
> \version "2.8.4.1"
> \include "english.ly"
>
> Music = {
> \clef treble
> \key c \major
> \time 3/4
>
> \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #(cons (markup #:italic
> "rit" ) "")
> d''16\startTextSpan c''' e'' a'' c''' e'' |
> b''16 ds'' fs'' b'' f'' b''\stopTextSpan }
>
> \score {
>\Music
>}
>
>
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> Ralph
> +
> Ralph Palmer
> Energy/Administrative Coordinator
> Keene State College
> Keene, NH 03435-2502
> Phone: 603-358-2230
> Cell: 603-209-2903
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pb with epsfile
Hi list.
I've been through the list, tests and doc, but I can't find an answer.
Using 2.9 on XP
I'm trying to insert an eps file into a music for the viol.
Here's my essai.ly:
\version "2.9"
\include "tirer.eps"
\score {
\clef bass
\relative c {
c^\markup { \epsfile #0 #5 #"tirer.eps" }
}
}
Here's the eps : (See attached file: tirer.eps)
It was screated that way :
from the original fac simile (scanned into a pdf file), I selected the
"trembler" glyph,
copy to the clipboard,
and copy it into paint to get a bitmap
I open it with Inskape , make : vectorize the bitmap + simplify + save as
"tirer.eps" with "create a
box..." and "convert text into..." activated (I'm not sure of my english
translation of the
menus...).
Here's my essai.log :
# -*-compilation-*-
impossible de changer le répertoire de travail pour : C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais
Traitement de « C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/essai.ly »
Analyse syntaxique...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:10:0: ERREUR : syntax
error, unexpected
DIGIT 0 35 translate
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:20:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter rstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:21:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter gstr readstring pop}
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/partitions/essais/trembler.eps:22:0: ERREUR : erreur
repérée dans
l'expression musicale. Elle sera ignorée.
{currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter /RunLengthDecode filter bstr readstring pop}
Does anyone know what happens to me ? Is this a question of eps bad conversion ?
Best regards !
JMarc
tirer.eps
Description: PostScript document
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RE: Vertical adjustment of \markup
Hi Ralph
This should do what you want:
Insert
\override TextSpanner #'staff-padding = #9
Change the '9' to give the height you want
Trevor
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Palmer, Ralph
> Sent: 17 October 2006 12:40
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Vertical adjustment of \markup
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm running Lilypond 2.8.4.1 on WinXP SP2.
>
> In the following snippet, I'd like to move "rit" upward. In the score
> the snippet comes from, the "rit" almost collides with a c''' notehead.
> I've tried \pad-markup, but Lilypond choked - tried to compile forever.
> I suspect I'm formating the section incorrectly, but I can't figure out
> the correct format.
>
> snippet:
>
>
> \version "2.8.4.1"
> \include "english.ly"
>
> Music = {
> \clef treble
> \key c \major
> \time 3/4
>
> \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #(cons (markup #:italic
> "rit" ) "")
> d''16\startTextSpan c''' e'' a'' c''' e'' |
> b''16 ds'' fs'' b'' f'' b''\stopTextSpan
> }
>
> \score {
>\Music
>}
>
>
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> Ralph
> +
> Ralph Palmer
> Energy/Administrative Coordinator
> Keene State College
> Keene, NH 03435-2502
> Phone: 603-358-2230
> Cell: 603-209-2903
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Vertical adjustment of \markup
Greetings,
I'm running Lilypond 2.8.4.1 on WinXP SP2.
In the following snippet, I'd like to move "rit" upward. In the score
the snippet comes from, the "rit" almost collides with a c''' notehead.
I've tried \pad-markup, but Lilypond choked - tried to compile forever.
I suspect I'm formating the section incorrectly, but I can't figure out
the correct format.
snippet:
\version "2.8.4.1"
\include "english.ly"
Music = {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 3/4
\override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #(cons (markup #:italic
"rit" ) "")
d''16\startTextSpan c''' e'' a'' c''' e'' |
b''16 ds'' fs'' b'' f'' b''\stopTextSpan
}
\score {
\Music
}
Thanks again for your help,
Ralph
+
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Energy/Administrative Coordinator
Keene State College
Keene, NH 03435-2502
Phone: 603-358-2230
Cell: 603-209-2903
Fax: 603-358-2456
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Tenuto w/ staccato
Greetings -
I'm running Lilypond 2.8.4.1 on WinXP Pro SP2.
In the following snippet, I'm getting a staccato mark that I don't want,
and that seems extraneous. Is this a bug? Is there a way to keep the
tenuto, without keeping the staccato mark?
snippet:
%
\version "2.8.4.1"
\include "english.ly"
Music = {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 3/4
gs''8\<[ d''-_(] d'')\![ a'-_(] a')[ fs'] |
}
\score {
\Music
}
Thank you for your time and attention,
Ralph
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Energy/Administrative Coordinator
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Keene, NH 03435-2502
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Re: about rightHandFinger
Is there any way to change the P and I for a lowercase p and i?digit-names (unknown): #(P I m a x) Names for string finger digits. # (p i m a x)Daniel Tonda C2006/10/16, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:Daniel Tonda schreef:> Hi:>> I just read that lilypond includes support for rightHandFinger events. > Being a guitarist I was thrilled.>> I ran the example and tried a couple of experiments to see if I could> change the capital P and I that appear, in guitar the fingers are spelt> in lowercase p, i, m, a. >> \rightHandFinger #0 ... #11.>> 0 and greater than 5 appear as "x".>> Is there a way to tweak the way it displays the fingerings?check out the digit-names property of StringFinger --Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwenLilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com-- Daniel Tonda C. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
some piano stuff
Hi,
I'm currently typesetting a piece from Ravel in which the following model
repeats several times.
\include "deutsch.ly"
\new PianoStaff {
<<
\context Staff = "RH" {
\clef treble
\key c \minor
\relative c' {
%\override PianoStaff.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t
\change Staff = LH
\times 8/10 { g32 as h d \change Staff = RH g a h d g~ g,~} 2.
}
}
\context Staff = "LH" {
\key c \minor
\relative c' {
\clef treble
<< { s4 2. } \\ { g1-> } >>
}
}
>>
}
1. What's the problem with the tuplet number? I'm getting a programming error
( "Spanner `Tie' is not fully contained in parent spanner `TieColumn' ") and
the tuplet number (10 in this case) is way down bellow the lower staff. Is it
because of the staff switching?
2. I would like to have the collision resolution shift the g whole note (LH,
voice two currently) to the left and those quick notes going from left hand to
the right to the right. I suppose it should have something to do with shiftOn
and shiftOff but I haven't managed to do it... :-(
3. The curly brace at the start of the piano staff is shifted upwards - is it a
bug or am I doing somthing wrong?
Thank in advance for any help or suggestions.
Jan Janovcik
P.S. I'm using 2.8.7 on Windows XP
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