Re: lowering objects

2007-04-17 Thread Graham Percival

steve berthiaume wrote:

i've learned that, to raise an object (an articulation, for example), one
uses:

\override Script #'padding = #3

but what about lowering?  neither of the following:


Please read the manual.  In particular, sections 5.1 and 5.2.

- Graham


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unfoldRepeatCounter

2007-04-17 Thread David Bobroff
I see that there is an easy way to set counters above percent repeats using:

\set countPercentRepeats = ##t

I wanted to do:

\set countUnfoldRepeats = ##t

...and LilyPond spit it out.  There must be a way to do this.  Can
someone point the way?

-David


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Re: producing archival scores

2007-04-17 Thread Bart Kummel

Hi List,

I just read this very interesting discussion. I don't think this is a
problem that will easily be solved. In fact, this is not a Lilypond- or even
music notation-specific problem. Similar cases exist for all other file
formats. (For example: how future proof is Microsoft's .doc format?)

However, I just want to add another possible direction for a solution. I
recently came across a project called XSugar (www.brics.dk/xsugar/). It's a
tool that gives the possibility to transform between XML and non-XML formats
in two directions. (Unlike XSLT, which can do a transformation from XML to
non-XML, but not the other way around.) I think it should be possible to
write a XSugar grammar for converting Lilypond format to MusicXML and back.
Unfortunately I don't have the time to investigate this, but perhaps someone
else has...

Best regards,
Bart Kummel, Hilversum, The Netherlands


On 4/12/07, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2007/4/12, Stuart Pullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In conclusion: SVG provide an alternative to PDF which may be more
 future-proof provided that you are prepared for patchy support in
 current browsers.

...and provided that multi-pages SVG support is not yet really
available, which makes it rather unsuitable for musical purposes (as
you may know it, most of scores tend to make more than one page ;-)
...though it would indeed be a very good idea to design some special
music-oriented SVG-like vector graphics format.

(PS. Thank you so much Cameron for the link: I didn't knew about this
interview but it's been a pleasure to discover it; I perfectly agree
with Jan and Han-Wen about all of it, particularly their vision of
MusicXML weakness and superficiality.)

Regards,
Valentin Villenave.


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Re: producing archival scores

2007-04-17 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Bart 
Kummel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Hi List,

I just read this very interesting discussion. I don't think this is a 
problem that will easily be solved. In fact, this is not a Lilypond- or 
even music notation-specific problem. Similar cases exist for all other 
file formats. (For example: how future proof is Microsoft's .doc format?)


However, I just want to add another possible direction for a solution. 
I recently came across a project called XSugar (www.brics.dk/xsugar/ ). 
It's a tool that gives the possibility to transform between XML and 
non-XML formats in two directions. (Unlike XSLT, which can do a 
transformation from XML to non-XML, but not the other way around.) I 
think it should be possible to write a XSugar grammar for converting 
Lilypond format to MusicXML and back. Unfortunately I don't have the 
time to investigate this, but perhaps someone else has...


There's lots of options like this ...

Is it Erik? who has done an Antlr grammar for lilypond? Antlr's great at 
transforming stuff, and it's my personal opinion convert-ly should be 
rewritten to use Antlr to convert between pretty much any form of input. 
That could then convert to and from XML, .ly, Sibelius, Finale, 
whatever, just by adding extra grammars.


I'm not volunteering, though!!!

There's also the possibility the Music Streams work will make a lot of 
this conversion stuff easier - I think that is in part the aim of doing 
the music stream stuff.


Cheers,
Wol
--
Anthony W. Youngman - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Trying to control chord symbols

2007-04-17 Thread rif

OK.  I figured out my problem.  The issue is that all pitches above the
octave need to be raised.  So for instance,

  c e g bes d' a'1-\markup { \super 13 }

is the right syntax, and putting in a d instead of a d' won't work.  I
thought I'd tried that, but I guess I hadn't.  Thanks for all the
suggestions.

rif



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Re:Trying to control chord symbols (shorter)

2007-04-17 Thread Vincent
 I've tried
   c e g bes d a'1-\markup { \super 13 }

I think c:13 is actually:
c e g bes d' a'

(I'm testing it in the old 2.9.0, but it should be the 
same in newer versions)

Greetings,

Vincent



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gap(s) in versions for convert-ly

2007-04-17 Thread Kieran Coulter
Hello,I was wondering, upon attempting to update .ly scripts from Mutopia that had various original version #s, is there a few version gaps that make .ly files written using a certain version or earlier "obsolete", meaning they can't be updated all the way to the current version?I noticed one around either 1.5 or 2.5, I forget which, that said "not smart enough to update autobeam settings" or something like that. Anyways, I am just trying to see at what version or earlier a file has to be for me to know that I shouldn't bother working on modifying it if it can't produce an output.Also, if there is a workaround for this gap, or any other gaps I am not yet aware of, please let me know!Thanks!___
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Lead sheet: How to change spacing between staff and chords?

2007-04-17 Thread Robert Kennedy
How do I move the chord symbols up from the staff in a lead sheet? The
chord symbols come very close to the textscripts and I want to move
them apart. Thanks!

-- Robert

P.S. Version 2.10.14.


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Re: gap(s) in versions for convert-ly

2007-04-17 Thread Graham Percival

Kieran Coulter wrote:
I was wondering, upon attempting to update .ly scripts from Mutopia that had 
various original version #s, is there a few version gaps that make .ly files 
written using a certain version or earlier obsolete, meaning they can't be 
updated all the way to the current version?


In theory anything from 2.0 can be updated to 2.10.  Anything written in 
1.x will probably require manual coding.


In practice, files in 2.0 and up that were written badly may require 
manual coding as well.


Also, if there is a workaround for this gap, or any other gaps I am not yet 
aware of, please let me know!


I trust that you've read the sections in the documentation that discuss 
convert-ly, so nothing else.


Cheers,
- Graham


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