Re: etf2ly

2007-05-24 Thread Arvid Grøtting
Helge Kruse HelgeKruse at t-online.de writes:

 
 Hello,
 
 I tried to use a graphical front end at my Windows XP system. Since Finale 
 Notepad is free, I wrote a simple song and store the MUS file. When I run 
 etf2ly lala.MUS I get always the content
 
 % lily was here -- automatically converted by etf2ly from lala.mus
 
 This is not too much. Can etf2ly accept Finale (Notepad) files anyhow? 

I think you have to explicitly save as ETF, and I guess this function is only
available in a less free version.  (Do keep in mind that Finale Notepad is free
as in beer, not as in speech.)

Furthermore, I'm not sure how well-maintained etf2ly is.  I've only used it
once, years ago, with moderate success.  I seem to remember having to modify the
script slightly for it to work with the given input.

I've only tried Finale Notepad on Mac OSX myself, and I wasn't impressed.  It
was probably worth what I paid for it, in contrast to Lilypond which is worth a
lot more than the same price (0).

Cheers,

Arvid




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Re: etf2ly

2007-05-24 Thread Graham Percival

Arvid Grøtting wrote:

Furthermore, I'm not sure how well-maintained etf2ly is.


It's not.  What you see (or don't see) is what you get.

Sorry,
- Graham



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Re: Changing title and stanza font

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Christoph Bartoschek wrote:

I have just learned that I have to change the StanzaNumber object:

\addlyrics {\override Score . LyricText #'font-name = #MetaPro-Normal 
  \override Score . StanzaNumber #'font-name = #MetaPro-Normal

  \set stanza = 1. 

But what object is responsible for the title?
  

None!

The kind of solution you had tried works well, but you have to be 
careful about the
syntax. For example, it looks as if you used some slanted quote instead 
of a straight quote.

Something like
\header{
 title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . MetaPro-Bold)  Title } }
}
should work better.

If you want to change all fonts of the document, read about 
make-pango-font-tree

in the section on Font Selection in the manual.

  /Mats


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Re: Changing title and stanza font

2007-05-24 Thread Christoph Bartoschek
Am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2007 schrieben Sie:

 If you want to change all fonts of the document, read about
 make-pango-font-tree
 in the section on Font Selection in the manual.

Thanks,

using make-pango-font-tree works. However the noteheads are quite big with the
example used in the manual:

myStaffSize = #20
   
#(define fonts
  (make-pango-font-tree MetaPro-Normal
Nimbus Sans
Luxi Mono
(/ myStaffSize 20)))

What are the correct values to get the same result as with:

#(set-global-staff-size 14)


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Re: Changing title and stanza font

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Christoph Bartoschek wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2007 schrieben Sie:
  

If you want to change all fonts of the document, read about
make-pango-font-tree
in the section on Font Selection in the manual.



Thanks,

using make-pango-font-tree works. However the noteheads are quite big with the
example used in the manual:

myStaffSize = #20
   
#(define fonts

  (make-pango-font-tree MetaPro-Normal
Nimbus Sans
Luxi Mono
(/ myStaffSize 20)))

What are the correct values to get the same result as with:

#(set-global-staff-size 14)
  

Just replace

myStaffSize = #20

by

myStaffSize = #14

Obvious, isn't it? ;-)

  /Mats


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Changing the spacing between two staves

2007-05-24 Thread Christoph Bartoschek
Hi,

I would like to decrease the space between the staves a little bit. I tried:

\paper {
   betweensystemspace = 1\mm   
}

But this did not change anything. Only if I change the value to 0 all staves
get their own page.


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Changing the paper size

2007-05-24 Thread Christoph Bartoschek
Hi,

now I would like to change the paper size to:

width 118mm
height 210mm
left margin 10mm
right margin 10mm

top and bottom margin should stay.

I have entered:

\paper {
   leftmargin = 10 \mm
   rightmargin = 10 \mm
   hsize = 118\mm
   vsize = 210\mm
}

and I have:

\layout {
 indent = 0 \mm
 linewidth = 98 \mm
}

The staves now have the desired with, but the page is still A4 (I guess).
The title is not centered above the staves but centered on the page.

What is wrong?

Christoph


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Re: Changing the spacing between two staves

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I hope you have read the section on Fitting music onto fewer pages in 
the manual.
Also, always tell what LilyPond version you are using, when asking 
questions .
The spacing of systems is one aspect that has been significantly 
reworked in the

development version 2.11.x, for example.

  /Mats

Christoph Bartoschek wrote:

Hi,

I would like to decrease the space between the staves a little bit. I tried:

\paper {
   betweensystemspace = 1\mm   
}


But this did not change anything. Only if I change the value to 0 all staves
get their own page.


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Re: Changing the paper size

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Please read the section on Paper size for instructions on how to get
non-standard paper sizes.

  /Mats

Christoph Bartoschek wrote:

Hi,

now I would like to change the paper size to:

width 118mm
height 210mm
left margin 10mm
right margin 10mm

top and bottom margin should stay.

I have entered:

\paper {
   leftmargin = 10 \mm
   rightmargin = 10 \mm
   hsize = 118\mm
   vsize = 210\mm
}

and I have:

\layout {
 indent = 0 \mm
 linewidth = 98 \mm
}

The staves now have the desired with, but the page is still A4 (I guess).
The title is not centered above the staves but centered on the page.

What is wrong?

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Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings -

Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 

I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two
notehead sizes in one chord.

Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,
and having no luck. Here's a snippet:

++ Begin Snippet +

\version 2.10.16

\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}

Breathe = {
\key d \minor
\clef alto
\time 2/2


c'4 c' c' c' |
\once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
b8[\breathe b]   c' c ( d e fis gis e) |

}

\score {
\Breathe
}

+++ End Snippet 

I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and
Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible
combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried
using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using
\tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before
\breathe, also with no effect.

Any suggestions for what to try next?

I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help
and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc,
and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although
.abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are
wonderful. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Ralph
+
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Energy/Administrative Coordinator
Keene State College
Keene, NH 03435-2502
Phone: 603-358-2230
Cell: 603-209-2903
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Re: Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see 
that it works.
If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property 
setting
indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting done with 
\once ...
only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note 
before the breating
sign, it only applies to the note, where it of course doesn't have any 
effect.
Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it 
should

work well.
I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where 
you did,
since that's the correct solution when you want to move an articulation, 
a text script,
a slur or a dynamic indication, for example. The reason is that all 
these are connected
to a specific note and happen simultaneously with the note, whereas 
the breathe sign
is handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or 
..., that happen

between the notes.
Tricky indeed!

  /Mats

Palmer, Ralph wrote:

Greetings -

Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 


I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two
notehead sizes in one chord.

Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,
and having no luck. Here's a snippet:

++ Begin Snippet +

\version 2.10.16

\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}

Breathe = {
\key d \minor
\clef alto
\time 2/2


c'4 c' c' c' |
\once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
b8[\breathe b]   c' c ( d e fis gis e) |

}

\score {
\Breathe
}

+++ End Snippet 

I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and
Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible
combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried
using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using
\tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before
\breathe, also with no effect.

Any suggestions for what to try next?

I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help
and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc,
and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although
.abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are
wonderful. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Ralph
+
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Keene State College
Keene, NH 03435-2502
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Cell: 603-209-2903
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Re: many short pieces - page breaks

2007-05-24 Thread Tom Permutt

This turns out to be easy but obscure.

\layout {
\context { \Score 
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f 
}}

will suppress all page-breaks within each score.  The only problem then is,
if there are nothing but scores, there is no place left to put breaks:  lily
will not recognize _between scores_ as a special case.  This is solved by
adding something other than scores, namely markup, between scores.  The
markup text can be null, thus:

\score {music}
\markup {}
\score {other music}

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Re: many short pieces - page breaks

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Please always tell what LilyPond version you are using!
In the latest development release 2.11.25, there is support for page break
commands to be inserted between two scores or between a score and a markup
or whatever.

  /Mats

Tom Permutt wrote:

This turns out to be easy but obscure.

\layout {
\context { \Score 
	\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f 
}}


will suppress all page-breaks within each score.  The only problem then is,
if there are nothing but scores, there is no place left to put breaks:  lily
will not recognize _between scores_ as a special case.  This is solved by
adding something other than scores, namely markup, between scores.  The
markup text can be null, thus:

\score {music}
\markup {}
\score {other music}

  


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RE: Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Mats -

My thanks and my apologies to you! I thought I had tried all
permutations, including the example snippet without the \once.

I used the \once \override before the note because I thought (just as
you surmised) that \once \override covered the next musical moment, and
that (since \breathe came directly after the note) the breathe sign was
attached to the note. I do not know which objects are attached and which
are not, so I'll try both in the future.

Thanks again,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:51 AM
To: Palmer, Ralph
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving breathe sign

I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see
that it works.
If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property
setting indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting
done with \once ...
only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note
before the breating sign, it only applies to the note, where it of
course doesn't have any effect.
Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it
should work well.
I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where
you did, since that's the correct solution when you want to move an
articulation, a text script, a slur or a dynamic indication, for
example. The reason is that all these are connected to a specific note
and happen simultaneously with the note, whereas the breathe sign is
handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or ...,
that happen between the notes.
Tricky indeed!

   /Mats

Palmer, Ralph wrote:
 Greetings -

 Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 

 I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.

 Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two 
 notehead sizes in one chord.

 Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,

 and having no luck. Here's a snippet:

 ++ Begin Snippet +

 \version 2.10.16

 \paper {
   ragged-right = ##t
   }

 Breathe = {
   \key d \minor
   \clef alto
   \time 2/2


   c'4 c' c' c' |
   \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
   b8[\breathe b]   c' c ( d e fis gis e) |

   }
   
 \score {
   \Breathe
   }

 +++ End Snippet 

 I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, 
 and Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each 
 possible combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've 
 also tried using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also 
 tried using \tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately 
 before \breathe, also with no effect.

 Any suggestions for what to try next?

 I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their 
 help and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like 
 .abc, and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, 
 although .abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and 
 flexibility are wonderful. Thanks again.

 Cheers,

 Ralph
 +
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 Energy/Administrative Coordinator
 Keene State College
 Keene, NH 03435-2502
 Phone: 603-358-2230
 Cell: 603-209-2903
 Fax: 603-358-2456
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Re: many short pieces - page breaks

2007-05-24 Thread Tom Permutt


Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote:
 
 Please always tell what LilyPond version you are using!
 In the latest development release 2.11.25, there is support for page break
 commands to be inserted between two scores or between a score and a markup
 or whatever.
 
Good point.  I have 2.11.25.  I saw that explicit page breaks are now
allowed at top level, which is why I revisited this.  I don't want to force
breaks, though:  I want to allow them, between scores, and forbid them,
within scores.  As of 2.11.25, what I said is still true:  though you can
put an explicit break between scores, lily will not automatically consider
between scores as a possible break point distinct from at the end of this
score which I have forbidden with the rest.  The \markup trick works,
though.

I believe a future version may have a command \allowPageBreak, along with
\pageBreak and \noPageBreak.  If it also operates at top level, it will be a
more natural way to accomplish the same thing.
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Connecting Bar Lines With ChoirStaff

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Harouff
How do I get bar lines to connect with a ChoirStaff? The 2.11 documentation
says it's supposed to happen automatically.
 
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Re: Connecting Bar Lines With ChoirStaff

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As is explained in section System start delimiters in the manual, the 
only difference
between a StaffGroup and a ChoirStaff context is that the former gives 
connected

bar lines whereas the latter doesn't.

  /Mats

Paul Harouff wrote:
How do I get bar lines to connect with a ChoirStaff? The 2.11 
documentation says it's supposed to happen automatically.
 
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RE: Connecting Bar Lines With ChoirStaff

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Harouff
Thanks. There appears to be a contradiction:

6.4.5 Bar Lines

In scores with many staves, a \bar command in one staff is automatically
applied to all staves. The resulting bar lines are connected between
different staves of a StaffGroup, PianoStaff, or ChoirStaff.


The last sentence should probably be changed to See 6.4.7 System Start
Delimiters for examples of the different handling of bar lines for
GrandStaff, StaffGroup, and ChoirStaff. Should probably add PianoStaff to
the page as well.

Paul

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To: Paul Harouff
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Connecting Bar Lines With ChoirStaff

As is explained in section System start delimiters in the manual, the 
only difference
between a StaffGroup and a ChoirStaff context is that the former gives 
connected
bar lines whereas the latter doesn't.

   /Mats

Paul Harouff wrote:
 How do I get bar lines to connect with a ChoirStaff? The 2.11 
 documentation says it's supposed to happen automatically.
  
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Re: etf2ly

2007-05-24 Thread Helge Kruse
Is there any other possibility to enter scores graphically before I edit and 
tweak them for Lilypond? I tried Canorus, but this program starts without 
any music edition capability at my Windows XP SP2. So it's currently not 
working.


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Re: etf2ly

2007-05-24 Thread Valentin Villenave

2007/5/24, Helge Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Is there any other possibility to enter scores graphically before I edit and
tweak them for Lilypond? I tried Canorus, but this program starts without
any music edition capability at my Windows XP SP2. So it's currently not
working.


Try Canorus version 2.5, the 3.0 is indeed buggy (windows Qt problem,
I guess). This is the best way I could recommend; besides, Canorus is
being actively developed; think we should see pre-1.0 versions
relatively soon (I'd say in about a year or so). However, the 2.5 is
quite useable and if it's still basic, you can always export LilyPond
code and work on it manually.

Cheers,
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empty midi file output from guitar tab

2007-05-24 Thread Abraham Raher

This simple line in guitar tab produces a correct pdf score and a midi file,
but
the midi file does not have any notes or durations in it. So it plays but
makes no
sound.

Can anyone explain what I'm doing wrong? Sorry, am a naive user. Thanks!

\version 2.10.10

   guitarline = {
   a,4\5 c'\2 a\3 e'\1
   }

\score {
   
  \new TabStaff = gtr {

   \guitarline

   }
   
   \layout {
  \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
   }
   \midi {
   }
}
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