Ties go a bit haywire, bug?

2007-06-12 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Hi,

in 2.11.26 when there are many ties, some have positioning errors. 2.10 has no 
problems, but for many other improvements I'm already dependent on 2.11.x :)

This is an excerpt, attached a PNG which shows that some ties are drawn too 
long. Must I report this as a bug?

\version "2.11.26"
rh = {
%   \repeat unfold 10 { a'1~ | }
\repeat unfold 4 { 1~ }
\repeat unfold 2 { 1~ }
\repeat unfold 2 { 1~ }
\repeat unfold 2 { 1~ }
8\fermata r4 r4. r4 \bar "|."
}
\score {
\new Staff = "rh" \rh
}

With best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen

PS: I'm really impressed with all the improvements in the latest releases, 
thanks!

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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States

2007-06-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

2007/6/12, Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


All type-setting of the original 1867 text is finished and in very
good shape.  Future improvements will be done in other areas, like a
new preface, illustrations, MIDI files, etc.  This pre-release,
although quite usable in its own right, is particularly directed at
people who might be willing to take a look at the source code and tell
me what I could do better.


And a typographic nit: the margins seem rather on the small side.
Have you done the page layout yourself?  I recommend copying margins
from reknowned publications.

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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States

2007-06-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

2007/6/12, Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi,

I am happy to give you a sneak preview to my ambitious music notation
project based on Lilypond 2.10, a digital edition of the 1867 song book:


very cool


Lilypond does an excellent job on these songs, and only few manual
tweaks were necessary.  Some tweaks may be the result of my lack of
understanding of Lilypond internals.  The whole book contains 136
songs, each about 1 DIN A5 page on average.  The build tree produced
by lilypond-book is over 700 MB (!) strong, I suspect because the
required fonts are copied into each EPS file (can this be improved?).


checkout -dhelp, You probably want to use

 -dgs-load-fonts

and preferably pdflatex.

If you're technically inclined, you can run

 make web >& logfile

and see how we build the documentation. We try to minizime font loads too
as it slows down the build.

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Re: Using \allowPageTurn

2007-06-12 Thread Graham Percival

Joe Neeman wrote:

On Wednesday 06 June 2007 21:31, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

'There are two steps to using this page breaking function. First, you
must enable it in the \paper block. Then, you must tell the function
where you would like to allow page breaks.'


Section 11.4.2 tells you how to enable a particular page-breaking algorithm in 
the \paper block. I guess it would be good to include a reference to that in 
later sections as well.


Thanks, added to GIT.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: \raise in markup glitch (was: Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States)

2007-06-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Marcus,


There must be a better way to do this, though.


Not sure about "better", but here are a couple options:

\version "2.11.23"

theMusic =
{
c''^\markup { \italic "Variation second." }
	c''^\markup { \translate #(cons 0 1) { \hspace #0 \italic "Variation  
second." } }

c''^\markup { \raise #1 { \hspace #0 \italic "Variation second." } }
}

\score
{
\theMusic
}

Hope this helps!
Kieren.




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Re: Optional Notes (Small noteheads)

2007-06-12 Thread Damian leGassick

chords work like this , see manual section 9.3.5 (version 2.11.26)

<
c
\tweak #'color #red d
\tweak #'font-size #-4 g
\tweak #'duration-log #1 a
>


cheers

D

On 12 Jun 2007, at 16:38, MusicallyForbidden wrote:



Though that should work (and does work in most cases), it doesn't  
seem to
work for chords. No matter which way I change the size of the  
notehead (I've
tried \set, \tweak, \tiny) it either sets all the notes in the  
chord to tiny

or normalsize. Is there a workaround for this? Thanks! :)

Marcus Brinkmann wrote:


At Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT),
MusicallyForbidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



In some pieces of choral music, optional notes are indicated by a
smaller-than-normal notehead. How is this achieved? Thank you!


\tweak #'font-size #-4 c''

Greetings,
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Re: Optional Notes (Small noteheads)

2007-06-12 Thread MusicallyForbidden

Though that should work (and does work in most cases), it doesn't seem to
work for chords. No matter which way I change the size of the notehead (I've
tried \set, \tweak, \tiny) it either sets all the notes in the chord to tiny
or normalsize. Is there a workaround for this? Thanks! :)

Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> At Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT),
> MusicallyForbidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> In some pieces of choral music, optional notes are indicated by a
>> smaller-than-normal notehead. How is this achieved? Thank you!
> 
> \tweak #'font-size #-4 c''
> 
> Greetings,
> Marcus
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Re: Point and click: HELP ME PLEASE...

2007-06-12 Thread Bertalan Fodor
If you are new to lilypond I strongly recommend using LilyPondTool
(http://lilypondtool.organum.hu), while it is mainly aimed at Windows
users (because the installation of java is the most simple on that
platform), it works perfectly well on Linux.

Bert

ps For me please do top-post if you like, because I mainly read email on
a mobile connection, getting only the first 4K of mails :-)
pps There are strong arguments for and against top-posting, so I don't
want to start a flame.

Mark Knoop írta:
> Marco wrote:
>   
>> I thank you for your help, but I'm not so expert to do all what you said...
>> 
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> Firstly, make sure you keep replying to the list - other people may have
> ideas to help you, and others may be helped by this thread.
>
> Secondly, please don't top-post.
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting
>
> More below...
>
>   
>> I'm a Ubuntu user and I'm not very able working in the command line:
>> for example what is gconf and what have I to do  (and where: command line,
>> emacs, elsewhere?),
>> what is the logfile I have to uncomment?
>> what have I to do with the code you have written () and
>> the file you attached ?
>> 

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Re: Point and click: HELP ME PLEASE...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Knoop
Marco wrote:
> I thank you for your help, but I'm not so expert to do all what you said...

Hi Marco,

Firstly, make sure you keep replying to the list - other people may have
ideas to help you, and others may be helped by this thread.

Secondly, please don't top-post.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

More below...

> I'm a Ubuntu user and I'm not very able working in the command line:
> for example what is gconf and what have I to do  (and where: command line,
> emacs, elsewhere?),
> what is the logfile I have to uncomment?
> what have I to do with the code you have written () and
> the file you attached ?

OK, firstly I'll describe the two files in a bit more detail. The first
is an XML file (your email client may just display it in the message,
not as an attachment). Save it somewhere (on your desktop will be fine)
as '/home//textedit-url-handler.schemas' where  is
your linux username.

The second file is a Bash shell script which accepts the point-and-click
url from Evince and turns it into a form that is usable by a text editor
- in my case gvim. Save this file as
'/home//bin/textedit_url.sh'. You may need to create the 'bin'
directory.

Then open a terminal (command-line) and enter the command:

gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=~/textedit-url-handler.schemas

Then open the Bash script for editing in emacs. The # character
designates comments in bash - lines starting with # are ignored. Remove
the # from the start of the lines which include the word 'logfile', i.e.
lines 7, 8, 26, 52. Then go to line 47 - comment out (i.e. insert a # at
the beginning of) the next three lines:

#KEYS=":${LINENUM}${STARTPOS}|"
#gvim --remote $FILENAME
#gvim --remote-send $KEYS

and add this line:

emacsclient --no-wait +${LINENUM}:${STARTPOS} $FILENAME

Save the file. In your terminal window, enter the following:

touch ~/textedit_url.log
tail -f ~/textedit_url.log

Then open a lilypond pdf in evince, and try clicking on one of the
notes. There should be some output in the terminal window which is
logging the script, and hopefully emacs should open. Let us know how you go.

(An excellent introduction to Bash scripting is here:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/index.html)

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Re: Optional Notes (Small noteheads)

2007-06-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson

If you look in the index of the user manual (called "LilyPond index" for
some silly reasons), and search for "small", you will find the relevant
section "Selecting notation font size". The easiest is to write
\small c'' \normalsize

  /Mats

Quoting Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


At Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT),
MusicallyForbidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



In some pieces of choral music, optional notes are indicated by a
smaller-than-normal notehead. How is this achieved? Thank you!


\tweak #'font-size #-4 c''

Greetings,
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Re: Fonts in SVG output

2007-06-12 Thread Vincent

> It is little difficult for me. I have in directory 
> ~/.fonts no fonts. There is only any file named fonts.dir.
> Is it necessary copy fonts into this directory from 
> other one? Will Inscape prefer fonts from this directory? 

Sorry, I don't use linux (yet ;-). I guess ~/fonts is "where
linux stores the font files", but I don't know exactly what 
it is. In windows this is a folder named "c:\windows\fonts".
I have all the lilypond otf font files here and inkscape
just finds them there.

I don't know how inkscape finds the fonts under 
linux, or how to configure it. Perhaps some linux user can 
tell you more about that. 

See more in this thread:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00194.html

Greetings,

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Re: same font in stanzas and latex.

2007-06-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:08:25 +0200,
Sebastian Menge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Im still a newbie in lilypond, though i've type set about 5 pieces. but
> anyway...
> 
> I want to make a small booklet for my marriage with all the hymns and
> songs and additional text (title, preface, program, thankyous etc)
> 
> We (actually my wife) have typeset the songs, as you can see in the
> attachment. It looks ok for us. But now we want that the fonts of the
> stanzas and the normal latex text are the same. How can we do that?

I am not sure I am following you exactly, but what I did in LaTeX with
Lilypond-Book is:

\usepackage{newcent}

At 10pt, this seems to match the stanza font that Lilypond uses.

Thanks,
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\raise in markup glitch (was: Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States)

2007-06-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:42:54 +0200,
"Dominic Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> in song No. 27 the markup text "Variation second." is placed too low,
> so it´s directly printed onto the notes.

Thanks.  My work around apparently stopped working.  The problem is
that this does not work:

d'16^\markup { \raise #1 \italic { Variation second. } }

and this doesn't work either (that's in the 1.0 ALPHA):

d'16^\markup { "" \raise #1 \italic { Variation second. } }

I changed it now to the following, which works:

d'16^\markup { " " \raise #1 \italic { Variation second. } }

There must be a better way to do this, though.
 
> And why are there bar numbers on some systems and on others not. For
> example, in song 39 only system two and four are printed WITH bar
> numbers, the others not. In other songs (e.g. No. 41) every system
> (except the first) has bar numbers. Why?

This happens when a bar is split across a line break.  I do this
fairly often, sometimes because that's also what the original book
has, see for example: http://docsouth.unc.edu/church/allen/ss3.jpg,
and sometimes because it makes for much better line breaks overall, at
least to my taste.

Is splitting bars across line breaks at the beginning of verses
considered bad style?  In singing practice it may be a problem
realizing that there is a split, although it seems to me that if a
song starts with a partial, it's clear that verses should start with a
partial as well.

I fixed the bar numbering in 040 though, where Lilypond's bar counter
seems to get quite confused.  There may be more problems like that,
I'll make myself a note to review the bar numbering of the songs.
Thanks for pointing it out!

Marcus



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Re: Point and click: HELP ME PLEASE...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Knoop
Marco wrote:
> I use Lilypond to write music. The manual says that there exist a funcion
> called point and click that allows clicking on the .pdf file to find the
> line in the .ly file.
> It is not clear how to set the parameters. I use:
> emacs as editor,
> evince as pdf viewer,
> xdvi as dvi viewer,
> but even I looked for solution I have never succeeded.
> Please help me (I'm a beginner of both Lilypond and Linux),
> Marco.

Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by default, but you can
tell it via gconf to pass them to whatever you like.

Apply the attached gconf schema file with:

gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas

And save the attached script in ~/bin/ (don't forget to make it
executable. I use gvim as my editor, so you'll have to make some changes
to use it with emacs. It should be fairly self-explanatory - let me know
if you need any help. Emacs users might have some tips too...

If you uncomment the lines with 'logfile', the script will record your
clicks to a log - useful for debugging.

Cheers,

Mark

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/schemas/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/textedit/command
/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/textedit/command
string
~/bin/textedit_url.sh %s

  The handler for textedit urls
  The command used to handle textedit URLs, if enabled.

  
  
/schemas/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/textedit/enabled
/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/textedit/enabled
bool
true

  Whether the specified command should handle textedit 
URLs
  True if the command specified in the "command" key should 
handle textedit URLs.

  
  



textedit_url.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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same font in stanzas and latex.

2007-06-12 Thread Sebastian Menge
Hi

Im still a newbie in lilypond, though i've type set about 5 pieces. but
anyway...

I want to make a small booklet for my marriage with all the hymns and
songs and additional text (title, preface, program, thankyous etc)

We (actually my wife) have typeset the songs, as you can see in the
attachment. It looks ok for us. But now we want that the fonts of the
stanzas and the normal latex text are the same. How can we do that?

And perhaps some of you have additional ideas howto improve the lilypond
code, im not really happy with it ...

TIA, Sebastian.


\version "2.10.5"
#(set-default-paper-size "a5")

\header {
  title = "Heilig"
  tagline = ""
}

global =  {
\time 3/4 \key f \major
  }

  melodyA = 
  { \relative f' 
{
  a2 a4
  g2 a4
  bes2.
  a2.
  g2 g4
  g2 a4
  f2.(
  g2) r4
  
  a2 a4
  g2 a4
  bes2.
  a2.
  g2 g4
  g2 a4
  f2.(
  f4) r2

  c'2 c4
  c2 c4
  d2.
  bes 2.
  bes2 c4
  a2 f4
  g2.(
  g4) r2

  a2 a4
  g2 f4
  bes2.
  a2.
  d2 g,4
  g2 a4
  f2. (
  f4) r2 \bar "|."
}
  }
  % ende A 
  
  stropheEinsA = \lyricmode { \set stanza = "1. "
Hei -- lig, hei -- lig, hei -- lig,
hei -- lig ist der Herr!
Hei -- lig, hei -- lig, hei -- lig,
hei -- lig ist nur Er!
Er, der nie be -- gon -- nen,
Er, der im -- mer war,
e -- wig ist und wal -- tet,
sein wird im -- mer -- dar.
  }

  <<
\new Voice = "teila" { \global \melodyA }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "teila" \stropheEinsA
  >>

\markup{\override #'(font-size . 1) 
  \column {
\line {2. Heilig, heilig, heilig, / heilig ist der Herr! /}
\line {Heilig, heilig, heilig, / heilig ist nur Er! /}
\line {Allmacht, Wunder, Liebe, / Alles rings umher! /}
\line {Heilig, heilig, heilig, / heilig ist der Herr!}
  }
}

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  indent = #0
  line-width = #120  
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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States

2007-06-12 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 15:09, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am happy to give you a sneak preview to my ambitious music notation
> project based on Lilypond 2.10, a digital edition of the 1867 song book:
>
> The Slave Songs of the United States
> Edited by: William Francis Allen, Charles Pickard Ware and Lucy McKim
> Garrison

Cool! I haven't had a look at the source, but in the variation to number 26, 
the first bar has an extra quaver and the third bar needs another quaver.


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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States

2007-06-12 Thread Dominic Neumann

Hi,

in song No. 27 the markup text "Variation second." is placed too low,
so it´s directly printed onto the notes.

And why are there bar numbers on some systems and on others not. For
example, in song 39 only system two and four are printed WITH bar
numbers, the others not. In other songs (e.g. No. 41) every system
(except the first) has bar numbers. Why?

/Dominic


2007/6/12, Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi,

I am happy to give you a sneak preview to my ambitious music notation
project based on Lilypond 2.10, a digital edition of the 1867 song book:

The Slave Songs of the United States
Edited by: William Francis Allen, Charles Pickard Ware and Lucy McKim Garrison

All type-setting of the original 1867 text is finished and in very
good shape.  Future improvements will be done in other areas, like a
new preface, illustrations, MIDI files, etc.  This pre-release,
although quite usable in its own right, is particularly directed at
people who might be willing to take a look at the source code and tell
me what I could do better.

Lilypond does an excellent job on these songs, and only few manual
tweaks were necessary.  Some tweaks may be the result of my lack of
understanding of Lilypond internals.  The whole book contains 136
songs, each about 1 DIN A5 page on average.  The build tree produced
by lilypond-book is over 700 MB (!) strong, I suspect because the
required fonts are copied into each EPS file (can this be improved?).

This book is a very important historic document, not only as a
document of the harm inflicted upon a people by slavery, but also as
evidence for the roots of much of our contemporary music, from Blues
to Jazz.  It may also be useful to serve as an example for how to use
Lilypond in a large-scale song book project, although there is lots of
room for improvement.  If you have any suggestions, please drop me a
note at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

You can find more information below and at:

http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/slave-songs.html

I want to thank the Lilypond team, without whom this work would not
have been possible at all!

Kind regards,
Marcus Brinkmann

The PDF file and the source:

http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/slave-songs-1.0-alpha.pdf
http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/slave-songs-1.0-alpha.tar.gz

The song list:

   1. Roll, Jordan, roll
   2. Jehovah, Hallelujah
   3. I hear from Heaven to-day
   4. Blow your trumpet, Gabriel
   5. Praise, member
   6. Wrestle on, Jacob
   7. The Lonesome Valley
   8. I can't stay behind
   9. Poor Rosy
  10. The Trouble of the World
  11. There's a meeting here to-night
  12. Hold your light
  13. Happy Morning
  14. No man can hinder me
  15. Lord, remember me
  16. Not weary yet
  17. Religion so sweet
  18. Hunting for the Lord
  19. Go in the wilderness
  20. Tell my Jesus ``Morning.''
  21. The Graveyard
  22. John, John, of the Holy Order
  23. I saw the beam in my sister's eye
  24. Hunting for a city
  25. Gwine follow
  26. Lay this body down
  27. Heaven bell a-ring
  28. Jine 'em
  29. Rain fall and wet Becca Lawton
  30. Bound to go
  31. Michael row the boat ashore
  32. Sail, O believer
  33. Rock o' Jubilee
  34. Stars begin to fall
  35. King Emanuel
  36. Satan's Camp A-Fire
  37. Give up the world
  38. Jesus on the Waterside
  39. I wish I been dere
  40. Build a house in Paradise
  41. I know when I'm going home
  42. I'm a trouble in de mind
  43. Travel on
  44. Archangel, open the door
  45. My body rock 'long fever
  46. Bell da ring
  47. Pray all de member
  48. Turn sinner, turn O
  49. My army cross over
  50. Join the angel band
  51. I an' Satan had a race
  52. Shall I die?
  53. When we do meet again
  54. The White Marble Stone
  55. I can't stand the fire
  56. Meet, O Lord
  57. Wai', Mr.~Mackright
  58. Early in the morning
  59. Hail, Mary
  60. No more rain fall for wet you
  61. I want to go home
  62. Good-bye, brother
  63. Fare ye well
  64. Many thousand go
  65. Brother Moses gone
  66. The Sin-sick Soul
  67. Some Valiant Soldier
  68. Hallelu, Hallelu
  69. Children do linger
  70. Good-bye
  71. Lord, make me more patient
  72. The Day of Judgment
  73. The Resurrection Morn
  74. Nobody knows the trouble I've had
  75. Who is on the Lord's side
  76. Hold out to the end
  77. Come go with me
  78. Every hour in the day
  79. In the mansions above
  80. Shout on, children
  81. Jesus, won't you come by-and-by?
  82. Heave away
  83. Wake up, Jacob
  84. On to Glory
  85. Just Now
  86. Shock along, John
  87. Round the corn, Sally
  88. Jordan's Mills
  89. Sabbath has no end
  90. I don't feel weary
  91. The Hypocrite and the Concubine
  92. O shout away
  93. O'er the Crossing
  94. Rock o' my Soul
  95. We will march thro' the valley
  96. What a trying time
  97. Almost Over
  98. Don't be weary, traveller
  99. Let God's saints come in
 100. The Golden Altar
 101. The Winter
 102. The Heaven Bells
 103. The Gold Band
 104. The Good Old Way
 105. I'm going home
 106. Sinner won't die

Point and click: HELP ME PLEASE...

2007-06-12 Thread Marco

I use Lilypond to write music. The manual says that there exist a funcion
called point and click that allows clicking on the .pdf file to find the
line in the .ly file.
It is not clear how to set the parameters. I use:
emacs as editor,
evince as pdf viewer,
xdvi as dvi viewer,
but even I looked for solution I have never succeeded.
Please help me (I'm a beginner of both Lilypond and Linux),
Marco.
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