ps and pdf (was Re: Compatibillity lilypond - noteedit and other quetions.)

2007-07-24 Thread Peter Terpstra
Valentin Villenave in
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 There was a discussion about that a few months ago; maybe we should
 talk about it again...

Thanks to an emailed answer i have the `-ddelete-intermediate-files' option.
This option is now used by default.

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-01/msg00284.html

I absoluteley agree with graham, most people never need the .ps files.
The .ps file is just a temporary file.

P.

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Re: vertical brackets

2007-07-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
  is there a better solution to get the vertical brackets displayed
  in the attached image than the code below?  It's a nasty fiddling,
  and it breaks very easily...
 
 These vertical brackets are a special form of arpeggio; see 6.6.7
 Arpeggio.

I know, however, it didn't work well.

 ... or was your question how to get _two_ of them?

Yep.

 I would guess that this would be relatively easy, although you might
 have to move the Arpeggio Engraver into the Voice context instead of
 a Staff.

Ah, this is something I haven't considered yet.  Will try soon.


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Information on Lilypond

2007-07-24 Thread Skippy G. Mardon
Hello,
.

I am checking out different types of
music notation software. 
When I am trying to read about Lilypond,
the language switches from English to 
German, and then 2 times it switched from
English to French.

There must be a way of setting the language 
so that it doesn't change frequently. I must
have clicked on English more than 6 times,
and it still doesn't understand that I want English.
Ich mag keine Deutsch, weil spreche ich nicht gut Deutsch.
There should be flags at the top of each page and 
then the reader could click on the appropriate flag.
Once the flag is set, it shouldn't change languages
until the reader clicks another flag.

Thanks,
Skippy in Canada

PS
I've used Finale for 8 years.
It's very complex and hard to use.
What I like to do best, is play a song
on the MIDI keyboard and then have
the notes appear on the screen.
Then I print them.
I am looking for software that will do 
this conveniently.
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Re: ps and pdf (was Re: Compatibillity lilypond - noteedit and other quetions.)

2007-07-24 Thread Valentin Villenave

2007/7/24, Peter Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-01/msg00284.html

I absoluteley agree with graham, most people never need the .ps files.
The .ps file is just a temporary file.


I wouldn't put it that way (to me it is an essential fact that
lilypond does handle a *truely* reliable format -- which the PDF is
not), but I totally agree too.

I've introduced many people (among my family, or my pupils) to
LilyPond, and they're often  confused too see, when they compile their
first score, many files (of unfamiliar formats) appear on their
Desktop (the .ps, but also the .log when they're running windows
version).

So I think we should avoid anything that can confuse new users, which
do not necessarily have the ability to use command-line options.

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Re: Information on Lilypond

2007-07-24 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Skippy G. Mardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There must be a way of setting the language
 so that it doesn't change frequently.

Please follow the link about automatic language selection
at the bottom of the website.

Jan.

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Re: Information on Lilypond

2007-07-24 Thread Valentin Villenave

2007/7/24, Skippy G. Mardon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hello,


Welcome on the list :)


I am checking out different types of
music notation software.
When I am trying to read about Lilypond,
the language switches from English to
German, and then 2 times it switched from
English to French.


This is weird; can you tell us which browser and operating system you use?
I assume you've already read
http://lilypond.org/web/about/browser-language.html


I've used Finale for 8 years.
It's very complex and hard to use.
What I like to do best, is play a song
on the MIDI keyboard and then have
the notes appear on the screen.
Then I print them.
I am looking for software that will do
this conveniently.


It depends on how you define and then...
LilyPond is a non-graphical music notation interface. i.e. you can use
a MIDI keyboard to enter your music, but what you'll see instantly
appear on your screen will *not* be a score like in Finale, but some
code, which you'll have to compile to get a (wonderfully displayed)
score at the end.
LilyPond can be quite simple to use (it took my grandmother a couple
hours to learn; now she uses it frequently), but it might not be
appropriated for someone who's used to graphical interfaces.

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: Information on Lilypond

2007-07-24 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi.

 What I like to do best, is play a song
 on the MIDI keyboard and then have
 the notes appear on the screen.


To do this, you might want to have a look at the Rosegarden 4 software.


Best regards,
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how to override only one of two textscripts?

2007-07-24 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
When I have two textscripts attached to the same note, how do I tweak only one 
of them?

I want the text above at the same level as other texts above the same staff, 
but I do not want to change the padding for the text below the same note.

\once \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #3
c4^Principal 8'_\markup \italic ben legato

TIA, best regards,
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Re: how to override only one of two textscripts?

2007-07-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Wilbert,

When I have two textscripts attached to the same note, how do I  
tweak only one of them?


Use the \tweak command!  ;-)

c^\markup { untweaked } -\tweak #'padding #15 ^\markup { tweaked }

Hope this helps!
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Re: how to override only one of two textscripts?

2007-07-24 Thread Trevor Bača

On 7/24/07, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Wilbert,

 When I have two textscripts attached to the same note, how do I
 tweak only one of them?

Use the \tweak command!  ;-)

c^\markup { untweaked } -\tweak #'padding #15 ^\markup { tweaked }


I like this.

This brings my mental list of \tweak examples to three things:

1. nested tuplet brackets that begin at the same moment;

2. notes in a chord (that obviously begin at the same moment);

3. multiple text scripts (that begin at the same moment) attaching to
a single note.


Neat.


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[solved] Re: how to override only one of two textscripts?

2007-07-24 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op dinsdag 24 juli 2007, schreef Trevor Bača:
 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
  Use the \tweak command!  ;-)
   c^\markup { untweaked } -\tweak #'padding #15 ^\markup { tweaked }

 I like this.

 This brings my mental list of \tweak examples to three things:

 1. nested tuplet brackets that begin at the same moment;
 2. notes in a chord (that obviously begin at the same moment);
 3. multiple text scripts (that begin at the same moment) attaching to a
 single note. 

Thanks!

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Is it possible to generate guitar tab below the notation staff ?

2007-07-24 Thread Vasil Kadifeli
Hi all,

I've just subscribed to the *lilypond-user* list and I'd like to ask a
question...

I am a very beginner to the classical guitar and also to the music
notation... today I struggled a lot and finally I've been able to produce
the notation staff of one of the pieces we've learned to play on the
guitar... what I couldn't find though on the user manual is that I'd like to
have the guitar tablature generated besides the music staff... is this
possible with lilypond ? and if yes, could you help me find what part of the
document I have to read because there is not much in the
instrument-specific notation chapter...
Many thanks in advance...

*Vasil*
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RE: Is it possible to generate guitar tab below the notation staff ?

2007-07-24 Thread Ed Ardzinski
Yes, LP can do guitar tab, but it might leave some rock guitarists wanting.  
For classical pieces it would probably be adequate (there's no support, at 
least in the version I use - 2.6.5 - for things like bends, 
hammer-ons/pull-offs, etc).  Just guessing, since I've never really done any 
serious classical guitar work. :-)
 
I picked up how to incorporate tabs through the users manual, so I gather for 
even a more recent version there's got to be a good starting point in one of 
the sections.  But I also understand that if you are new to LP the users manual 
can seem intinmidating (actually any computer programming/application users 
guide can be that way to a novice).  As is usual, I am at work and don't have 
any example code, but I'd be glad to send an example to you later if you are 
still scratching your head.LP tabulature is said by some to be a bit 
non-standard, but I think it does the job wonderfully, especially when paired 
to standard notation.


Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:20:47 +0300From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Is it possible to generate guitar tab below the notation staff ?
Hi all, 
 
I've just subscribed to the lilypond-user list and I'd like to ask a 
question... 
 
I am a very beginner to the classical guitar and also to the music notation... 
today I struggled a lot and finally I've been able to produce the notation 
staff of one of the pieces we've learned to play on the guitar... what I 
couldn't find though on the user manual is that I'd like to have the guitar 
tablature generated besides the music staff... is this possible with lilypond ? 
and if yes, could you help me find what part of the document I have to read 
because there is not much in the instrument-specific notation chapter...  
Many thanks in advance...
 
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grace note leading to chord

2007-07-24 Thread jazzman

Hi all!
In a piece I am engraving with lilypond I have an acciaccatura leading to a
chord. The acciaccatura should actually lead to a specific note in that
chord (the highest one in my case). However, lilypond treats the chord as
one unit and doesn't allow to lead the acciaccatura to one of the chord's
notes. I found a partial solution by using \slurUp so that the slur leads to
the highest note but I would like the slur to go down and lead to the
highest note.
Is this possible?
If so please show me how...

Thanks in advance.
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Can I have my own custom LilyPond?

2007-07-24 Thread PabloZum
I'm rather dissatisfied with the way LilyPond prints chord names. After trying 
all the ideas some people here have generously given me to try and use my own 
chord-name font, I've come to the conclusion that the only practical way to 
achieve what I want is by changing the sourcecode to fit my own fairly 
idiossincratic chord-name style.

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Re: Can I have my own custom LilyPond?

2007-07-24 Thread Dominic Neumann

This is possible, because LilyPond is completely open source. But
before trying to do this, please describe what you want to do. Maybe
others are interested in that way of printing chordnames, too. Maybe
there´s a way to provide a patch for LilyPond that your ideas can
become part of the official LilyPond.


2007/7/24, PabloZum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



I'm rather dissatisfied with the way LilyPond prints chord names. After
trying all the ideas some people here have generously given me to try and
use my own chord-name font, I've come to the conclusion that the only
practical way to achieve what I want is by changing the sourcecode to fit my
own fairly idiossincratic chord-name style.

Is it possible to do that? I mean, to fiddle with the sourcecode, change it
to my own requirements and have an indepedent LilyPond?

If so, which files are relevant?
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Re: Can I have my own custom LilyPond?

2007-07-24 Thread PabloZum

Thank you, Dominic. I'm new here and I hadn't thought of that.

I'll make a pdf with my chord-name font and its various combinations. Who 
should I send it to?


(I'm sorry, I don't know how to thread this answer directly under yours at 
the forum.) 




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Re: Can I have my own custom LilyPond?

2007-07-24 Thread Dominic Neumann

Send it to the lilypond-user list and also to the devel-list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Maybe we should at first discuss on the users list if this is a
special way of setting chordnames and only you need it or if its
needed by (maybe many) other users too ...


2007/7/24, PabloZum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thank you, Dominic. I'm new here and I hadn't thought of that.

I'll make a pdf with my chord-name font and its various combinations. Who
should I send it to?

(I'm sorry, I don't know how to thread this answer directly under yours at
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new dynamic sign

2007-07-24 Thread Siska Ádám

Hello Everyone,


I'm trying to create a new dynamic sign for 'attacco impercettibile' 
(this can be found for example in scores of some spectralist composers, 
like Gérard Grisey). This sign is supposed to be something like a 
striked circle, like the character ɵ or ø character, and it means 
something like 'zero volume', so if it's at the beginning of a 
crescendo, you should start playing from absolute stillness, and if it's 
at the end of a decrescendo, you should make the decrescendo until total 
still. For this, I tried the following code:


zeroDyn = #(make-dynamic-script ø)

This works, but the output looks quite awful, it would be better to use 
some other character font and/or make the character to be smaller. But 
if I change the ø to (for example) \roman ø, I don't get the desired 
result.
How can I set the font type and/or size used to create the dynamic 
symbols with make-dynamic-script?


Thank you,
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'Bartok'-pizz.

2007-07-24 Thread Siska Ádám

Hello,


What is the code for the articulation mark representing the so-called 
'Bartok'-pizzicato? (A circle like for flageolets, but with a short 
vertical line crossing the circle at the top.) I hadn't found this in 
the table of articulation signs in the manual.


Thank you,
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Re: new dynamic sign

2007-07-24 Thread Trevor Bača

On 7/24/07, Siska Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Everyone,


I'm trying to create a new dynamic sign for 'attacco impercettibile'
(this can be found for example in scores of some spectralist composers,
like Gérard Grisey). This sign is supposed to be something like a
striked circle, like the character ɵ or ø character, and it means
something like 'zero volume', so if it's at the beginning of a
crescendo, you should start playing from absolute stillness, and if it's
at the end of a decrescendo, you should make the decrescendo until total
still. For this, I tried the following code:

zeroDyn = #(make-dynamic-script ø)

This works, but the output looks quite awful, it would be better to use
some other character font and/or make the character to be smaller. But
if I change the ø to (for example) \roman ø, I don't get the desired
result.
How can I set the font type and/or size used to create the dynamic
symbols with make-dynamic-script?

Thank you,
Adam


Hi Adam,

Have you looked up the circled-tip attribute of the Hairpin grob in the manual?

We put that in for the dal niente sort of thing you're talking about a
year ago or so. I think Erlend did the implementation, and it gives
very good graphic control.

You won't, however, be able to get the null-style slash through the
circle, IIRC. But maybe you can do without and look like Sciarrino
instead of Grisey?

Trevor.


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Re: vertical brackets

2007-07-24 Thread Gilles THIBAULT




These vertical brackets are a special form of arpeggio; see 6.6.7
Arpeggio.

From that idea, I get this ugly solution


%%
\version 2.10.25

\score {
\new Staff {
\override Staff.Arpeggio #'stencil = #ly:arpeggio::brew-chord-bracket
\override Staff.Arpeggio #'X-offset = #-1.2

 { c' g' ees''4 }
\\
 {\hideNotes  d' e' 4  \arpeggio \unHideNotes}
\\
 {\hideNotes  b' d''4  \arpeggio \unHideNotes}

\revert Staff.Arpeggio #'X-offset
}
}


%%

You have to find the right notes in the hidden voices

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Re: 'Bartok'-pizz.

2007-07-24 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op dinsdag 24 juli 2007, schreef Siska Ádám:
 'Bartok'-pizzicato

You could do something like:

#(define-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )
)
0.7 X
  )
)
  )
)

bartok = \markup \bartokpizz

{
c4^\bartok
}

I found this on: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user%40gnu.org/msg14529.html

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Re: 'Bartok'-pizz.

2007-07-24 Thread Siska Ádám

Thank you, this works quite nice, and sorry for the duplicated question


Bye,
Adam


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Wilbert Berendsen wrote:

Op dinsdag 24 juli 2007, schreef Siska Ádám:
  

'Bartok'-pizzicato



You could do something like:

#(define-markup-command (bartokpizz layout props) ()
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:stencil
  (ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:stencil-add
  (make-circle-stencil 0.7 0.1 #f)
  (ly:make-stencil
(list 'draw-line 0.1 0 0.1 0 1)
'(-0.1 . 0.1) '(0.1 . 1)
  )
)
0.7 X
  )
)
  )
)

bartok = \markup \bartokpizz

{
c4^\bartok
}

I found this on: 
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Re: vertical brackets

2007-07-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 From that idea, I get this ugly solution [...]

Thanks!  This is better than my solution.


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Horizontal brackets

2007-07-24 Thread Siska Ádám

Hello,


I'm trying to set up upper double brackets (the 'con molta pressione' 
sign for strings), but I have no idea on how to do this. I found that 
there are analysis brackets, but I can't force them to put themselves on 
the top of the notes, they don't really have rectangular shape, and they 
don't really nest well into each other (they have space between each 
other). I've seen that in mensural notation there are rectangular 
brackets for ligatures, but I also didn't catch how to display them in 
ordinary scores.

Does anyone know a solution?

Thank you,
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Re: Can I have my own custom LilyPond?

2007-07-24 Thread Carl Sorensen
PabloZum pabzum at terra.com.br writes:

 
 
 I'm rather dissatisfied with the way LilyPond prints chord names. After 
 trying all the ideas some people here have generously given me to try and
 use my 
 own chord-name font, I've come to the conclusion that the only practical
 way to 
 achieve what I want is by changing the sourcecode to fit my own fairly 
 idiossincratic chord-name style.
  
 Is it possible to do that? I mean, to fiddle with the sourcecode, change it 
 to my own requirements and have an indepedent LilyPond?
  
 If so, which files are relevant?

I'd recommend that you look at scm/chord-generic-names.scm.  To my quick look,
this is where chord names come from.

Rather than write your own separate Lilypond, and force you to maintain your
version, I'd recommend that you just define your own chord name style.  In
chord-generic-names.scm you'll see that there are at least two different chord
name styles, banter-chord-names and jazz-chord-names.  You could add your own
pablo-chord-names function, add it to Lilypond, and move on forward.

You can make changes to .scm files without recompiling Lilypond, and you can
send patches to the lilypond-devel list; the patches will either be approved and
applied, or you'll receive suggestions on how to improve the patches to make
them acceptable for Lilypond.

Welcome to the Lilypond developers world.  We love to have new contributors.

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No \markup in the \layout block?

2007-07-24 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

This works fine:

%%% EX 1 %%%

\version 2.11.26

\new Staff {
  \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup { end }
  c'4
}

%%% EX 1 %%%


But this causes explosions:

%%% EX 2 %%%

\version 2.11.26

\new Staff {
  c'4
}

\layout {
  \context {
 \Staff
 \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text = \markup { end }
  }
}

%%% EX 2 %%%


GNU LilyPond 2.11.26
Processing `0150.ly'
Parsing...
0150.ly:11:61: error: syntax error, unexpected \markup, expecting
SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
 \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text =
\markup { end }



Why?


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Overly thick results from markup with draw-line

2007-07-24 Thread Trevor Bača

Hi,

Is there a reason the nibbed output of draw-line is almost 20 times
thicker than usual (rather than just 2 times thicker like the rest of
the TextSpanner)?


%%% EX 1 %%%

\version 2.11.26

\new Staff {
  c'4 \startTextSpan
  c'4 \stopTextSpan
}

\layout {
  \context {
 \Staff
 \override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text =
#(markup #:draw-line '(0 . -1))
 \override TextSpanner #'thickness = #2
  }
}

%%% EX 1 %%%


See attached.

Bug?


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Indenting Coda System

2007-07-24 Thread Darren Nelsen
In printed music, I often see the coda system at the end of a piece
 on its own line and indented.
In  Lilypond, I can place the coda symbol and break the line,
 but how do I indent the system? Can't figure it out.
Thanks!



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