Use Identifier or Variable for Font Name

2007-10-31 Thread wackazong

Hi!

In my template, I have a couple of lines like this one:

\override X #'font-name = #FF 

Where XXX is some object and  is the font i choose. I would like
to use a global identifier or variable for the font name, so that I can
write

%Definitions

FontName = #FFF

...

%The rest

\override X #'font-name = \FontName

This does not work, however, I tried many different configuration, also
scheme music functions, nothing worked. Does anybody have an idea?

Thanks!

ALEXander. 

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Re: Use Identifier or Variable for Font Name

2007-10-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson

LilyPond variables are also available as Scheme variables:

FontName = #FFF
\override TextScript #'font-name = #FontName

   /Mats

wackazong wrote:

Hi!

In my template, I have a couple of lines like this one:

\override X #'font-name = #FF 


Where XXX is some object and  is the font i choose. I would like
to use a global identifier or variable for the font name, so that I can
write

%Definitions

FontName = #FFF

...

%The rest

\override X #'font-name = \FontName

This does not work, however, I tried many different configuration, also
scheme music functions, nothing worked. Does anybody have an idea?

Thanks!

ALEXander. 

  


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Re: music notation

2007-10-31 Thread Graham Percival
The lilypond-user mailist can answer this in more detail than the bug 
list, so I have CC'd them.  The short answer is that non-programmers can 
use lilypond without problems, but I do not believe that finale files 
can be imported to lilypond.


The best route is probably musicXML, but I'm not certain if finale can 
create musicxml files.


Cheers,
- Graham

Steve Sedberry wrote:
I've been using Finale Notepad, 2000 version, for the past six years or so and 
am interested in moving from Windows 98 to an open source operating system. I 
am interested in using Lilypond and am hoping to import my finale notepad files 
into the Lilypond program for further editing and printing.


Two questions: 

Since I am not a programmer and cannot fix bugs should I resist the urge to try 
Lilypond?


Can finale notepad files be easily imported into Lilypad?

Thank you for your help.

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Re: music notation

2007-10-31 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 schrieb Graham Percival:
 The lilypond-user mailist can answer this in more detail than the bug
 list, so I have CC'd them.  The short answer is that non-programmers can
 use lilypond without problems, but I do not believe that finale files
 can be imported to lilypond.

Exactly, Finale's .mus files cannot be imported into lilypond.

 The best route is probably musicXML, but I'm not certain if finale can
 create musicxml files.

Finale can create MusicXML files, but Finale Notepad cannot. MusicXML import 
(via the musicxml2ly converted, which I'm currently working on) has improved 
a lot recently and produces fairly decent results in most cases... 

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Snap-pizzicato in Liliypond?

2007-10-31 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Hi,
How can I create a snap-pizzicato (aka. Bartok-pizzicato) in lilypond? The 
articulation should look like the one shown in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_musical_symbols#Articulation_marks

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Re: Better vertical spacing in 2.11 adversely affects lyric spacing

2007-10-31 Thread Till Rettig

Is there any possibility to make the spacing algorithm behave
differently for
Lyrics contexts that are included in a ChoirStaff compared to those that
are not? That's the only way I could think of to deduce from the 
information
available in the .ly file if the lyrics should be centered between 
staves or

should be kept close to a single stave.

I think its not that easy. I would use ChoirStaff as well for polyphonic 
music with only one voice per system, but as well I do songs, like the 
SATB example in de appendix, but with only one voice in the middle. It 
appeared somehow logical to me to use ChoirStaff for that two. But if we 
have it well enough documentated, we could have a VocalStaff and a 
ChoirStaff with different spacing.


Till

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 78

2007-10-31 Thread Monk Panteleimon
 Message: 6
 From: Till Rettig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Better vertical spacing in 2.11 adversely affects lyric
   spacing

 I think its not that easy. I would use ChoirStaff as well for polyphonic 
 music with only one voice per system, but as well I do songs, like the 
 SATB example in de appendix, but with only one voice in the middle. It 
 appeared somehow logical to me to use ChoirStaff for that two. But if we 
 have it well enough documentated, we could have a VocalStaff and a 
 ChoirStaff with different spacing.

I am curious to know whether anyone who does a lot of vocal music (of
any variety)
actually thinks that the current (2.10) vertical lyric spacing is
problematic. Was it changed on its own merit or as part of other changes? 
Even with the keep-fixed-while-stretching set to ##t to fix the distance
from the lower staff, I still altered my engraver-init.ly in 2.11 to match 
2.10's,
since some of the systems wound up too heavy on the bottom.

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 78

2007-10-31 Thread Till Rettig



Monk Panteleimon wrote:


  
I think its not that easy. I would use ChoirStaff as well for polyphonic 
music with only one voice per system, but as well I do songs, like the 
SATB example in de appendix, but with only one voice in the middle. It 
appeared somehow logical to me to use ChoirStaff for that two. But if we 
have it well enough documentated, we could have a VocalStaff and a 
ChoirStaff with different spacing.



I am curious to know whether anyone who does a lot of vocal music (of
any variety)
actually thinks that the current (2.10) vertical lyric spacing is
problematic. Was it changed on its own merit or as part of other changes? 
Even with the keep-fixed-while-stretching set to ##t to fix the distance

from the lower staff, I still altered my engraver-init.ly in 2.11 to match 
2.10's,
since some of the systems wound up too heavy on the bottom.
  
I actually LIKE the 2.11 system! But I don't set that much music on the 
other hand, so maybe there are some situations, that I just don't 
encounter. But the peace I had begun some time ago on 2.10 and now 
finished on 2.11 got really enhanced! I am only missing a centered align 
for piano staves (to put dynamics into) and likewise one for choral 
music (for the lyrics).


Greetings
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Re: music notation

2007-10-31 Thread Tim Reeves
Steve Sedberry wrote:
 I've been using Finale Notepad, 2000 version, for the past six years or 
so and 
 am interested in moving from Windows 98 to an open source operating 
system. I 
 am interested in using Lilypond and am hoping to import my finale 
notepad files 
 into the Lilypond program for further editing and printing.
 
 Two questions: 
 
 Since I am not a programmer and cannot fix bugs should I resist the urge 
to try 
 Lilypond?
 
 Can finale notepad files be easily imported into Lilypad?
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
 Steve Sedberry
 on the border of Alabama/Georgia, USA

Steve,
Just to give some reassurance, I also would not call myself a programmer, 
but I really appreciate all that Lilypond can do...much more than Finale 
Notepad. 
As for bugs, I know there are some, but for what I use it for, they're not 
an issue. 
And they seem to get fixed quickly, so if you do happen to find one, be 
sure to report it.
Also, from reading the user lists, there are almost always workarounds.
The Lilypond Snippet Repository, the documentation (which is good and 
getting better) and other helpful users and developers will all help you 
do anything you could want to do with Lilypond. Welcome!


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Re: music notation

2007-10-31 Thread notesetter

Later versions of Finale export to musicXML. Check to see if this is
supported by a newer version of notepad. If not, you may need to have help
from someone working with a full version of Finale.

Good luck,

Dave


Graham Percival-2 wrote:
 
 The lilypond-user mailist can answer this in more detail than the bug 
 list, so I have CC'd them.  The short answer is that non-programmers can 
 use lilypond without problems, but I do not believe that finale files 
 can be imported to lilypond.
 
 The best route is probably musicXML, but I'm not certain if finale can 
 create musicxml files.
 
 Cheers,
 - Graham
 
 Steve Sedberry wrote:
 I've been using Finale Notepad, 2000 version, for the past six years or
 so and 
 am interested in moving from Windows 98 to an open source operating
 system. I 
 am interested in using Lilypond and am hoping to import my finale notepad
 files 
 into the Lilypond program for further editing and printing.
 
 Two questions: 
 
 Since I am not a programmer and cannot fix bugs should I resist the urge
 to try 
 Lilypond?
 
 Can finale notepad files be easily imported into Lilypad?
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
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Re: music notation

2007-10-31 Thread bernie arai
i am also definitely not a programmer, and i really value the quality and
control that i get using lilypond (after migrating from finale).  it's just
a matter of making a paradigm shift from wysiwyg score editting to
text-based score engraving.

fwiw, i got finale 2000 to work on my linux box under wine without too much
hassle.  but i never ended up using it once i started learning lilypond...

bernie

On 10/31/07, notesetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Later versions of Finale export to musicXML. Check to see if this is
 supported by a newer version of notepad. If not, you may need to have help
 from someone working with a full version of Finale.

 Good luck,

 Dave


 Graham Percival-2 wrote:
 
  The lilypond-user mailist can answer this in more detail than the bug
  list, so I have CC'd them.  The short answer is that non-programmers can
  use lilypond without problems, but I do not believe that finale files
  can be imported to lilypond.
 
  The best route is probably musicXML, but I'm not certain if finale can
  create musicxml files.
 
  Cheers,
  - Graham
 
  Steve Sedberry wrote:
  I've been using Finale Notepad, 2000 version, for the past six years or
  so and
  am interested in moving from Windows 98 to an open source operating
  system. I
  am interested in using Lilypond and am hoping to import my finale
 notepad
  files
  into the Lilypond program for further editing and printing.
 
  Two questions:
 
  Since I am not a programmer and cannot fix bugs should I resist the
 urge
  to try
  Lilypond?
 
  Can finale notepad files be easily imported into Lilypad?
 
  Thank you for your help.
 
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 78

2007-10-31 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 schrieb Till Rettig:
 I actually LIKE the 2.11 system! But I don't set that much music on the
 other hand, so maybe there are some situations, that I just don't
 encounter. 

I just tried one of my choir scores (ChoirStaff with two stanzas written 
between the two staves for SA and TB) with the current git version. The 
lyrics are tied to the S voice, but in 2.10.x, the lyrics were still centered 
between the two staves. Now in 2.11, the lyrics seem to be glued to the SA 
staff (when using ragged-bottom=##f and ragged-last-bottom=##f), so they are 
quite far away from the TB, which make the scores absolutely unusable for 
choir use.

Here it seems like there is more space between the staves of a system than 
between two systems.

If the staves are not streched, then everything is just fine, only when some 
stretching happens, then the lyrics stay glued to the staff, and too much 
spacing is inserted between the staves (instead of between the systems).

Cheers,
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Professional LilyPond users?

2007-10-31 Thread notesetter

I'm just wondering (out of simple curiosity) if there are individuals in this
forum or elsewhere who are using LilyPond to engrave commercial projects.
I'm new to LilyPond but thus far I like what I see. I have entertained the
thought of offering LilyPond engraving as a service (after I become much
more proficient with it) sometime in the future and wonder if there is
anyone currently using this wonderful software in a commercial capacity.

Thanks,

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Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Jocke

Okay, my musical terms and english isn't good but I will try to explain my
problem. I like to have lyrics to the notes and I'm learning this right now
in Lilypond. If I want one word to sing in two different notes for example,
the notes should be tied of course. But I also want something like an
underscore after the word to show the reader that it shall be singed for a
long time. Is this possible in Lilypond?

An example in an image. The word och in this image have some underscore
after it: http://www.bellman.net/noter/fs64.gif
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Dynamics and arpeggios too close to bar lines

2007-10-31 Thread Benedict Singer

Hi all,

It's been a while since I've been on this list, but now with a 
composition teacher, I'm using Lilypond regularly again. Thus, I have 
some questions about a few issues that have been bugging me, having to 
do with music elements too close to or overlapping with bar lines. This 
is with version 2.10.33. The first of these is arpeggios on the first 
note of a bar; the arpeggio squishes right up against the bar line, 
making it hard to read. This problem could be solved by moving to 2.11, 
which I just tested; however, I'd prefer to stay on the stable branch. 
Also, my second problem was not solved by 2.11. This relates to dynamics 
in the Piano centered dynamics template. Hairpins and dynamic marks tend 
to brush right up against, or even overlap (the mp mark is one of the 
worst) the bar lines. If there's one tweak involving bar lines that 
would solve both these problems, then that would be great; however, from 
a quick look at the reference docs on bar line objects, nothing was 
obvious. Alternatively, tweaks to the arpeggio objects or the dynamic 
objects would work instead. Thanks in advance guys!


Benedict


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Re: Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Jocke



Kieren MacMillan wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 the notes should be tied of course. But I also want something like an
 underscore after the word to show the reader that it shall be  
 singed for a
 long time. Is this possible in Lilypond?
 
 Yes: after the lyric, put a double-underscore, e.g., och __
 
 Hope this helps!
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Aha, there should be a space there, okay. :-) Thanks! But one more thing.
That underscore thing in the notation thing, I want it to be shorter. It
streches so long to other notes. For example, in this code, the underscore
between the word och streches to E. I just want it to stretch to under the
second A there.

\version 2.10.33

\score {
  
  
\relative c'' {
  \key g \major

  | a4 ~ a b2 | a4 ~ a e c
  | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \bar |: \break
  | a'4 b ces bis | a4 b8[ a] f2
  | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \break
  | a'4 a b2 | a4 a b2
  | d,4 e b'8[ a] f4 | e1 \bar |.
}

\addlyrics {
ba -- js och __
}

\addlyrics {
bajs två tre f -- e -- s
}

  
  \layout { }
  \midi {}
  }

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%%% coding: utf-8
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Re: Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello!


the notes should be tied of course. But I also want something like an
underscore after the word to show the reader that it shall be  
singed for a

long time. Is this possible in Lilypond?


Yes: after the lyric, put a double-underscore, e.g., och __

Hope this helps!
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Re: Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 31.10.2007 (18:45), Jocke wrote:
 Aha, there should be a space there, okay. :-) Thanks! But one more thing.
 That underscore thing in the notation thing, I want it to be shorter. It
 streches so long to other notes. For example, in this code, the underscore
 between the word och streches to E. I just want it to stretch to under the
 second A there.

First of all: notes that are tied together count as one syllable.
Second: the extender should stretch for as many syllables as you
specify, i.e. with single underscores separated by spaces after a
syllable: ba -- ch __ _ _ _ would have an extender stretching under
four syllables. In Jo -- hann __ Se -- ba -- sti -- an the extender
will stretch for as long as that syllable lasts -- in your case, that
would mean over the two tied notes.
However, as you note, it goes one note further, which looks odd. In
this case, the reason for this behaviour seems to be that this is the
last syllable in your lyrics. The docs state that the extender goes
between a syllable and the next one. This does seem to be a minor bug,
though, which may not be of practical consequence, since the case in
your example is probably very rare in practice, but if it's a bug, it
should nevertheless be looked into.
Thirdly: there is a way around this, if you desperately want the
lyrics to end with an extender while there is still music left: use a
phrasing slur a\( a\)  instead of the tie a ~ a. That way, the
notes will be counted as two syllables, and when the extender
stretches too far it will still stretch only as far as you want it.

Lastly: watch your mouth; your lyrics aren't exactly appropriate for
such a splendid piece of software, are they ;-)

 
 \version 2.10.33
 
 \score {
   
   
 \relative c'' {
   \key g \major
 
   | a4 ~ a b2 | a4 ~ a e c
   | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \bar |: \break
   | a'4 b ces bis | a4 b8[ a] f2
   | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \break
   | a'4 a b2 | a4 a b2
   | d,4 e b'8[ a] f4 | e1 \bar |.
 }
 
 \addlyrics {
 ba -- js och __
 }
 
 \addlyrics {
 bajs två tre f -- e -- s
 }
 
   
   \layout { }
   \midi {}
   }
 
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Re: Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Jocke



eyolf wrote:
 
 On 31.10.2007 (18:45), Jocke wrote:
 Aha, there should be a space there, okay. :-) Thanks! But one more thing.
 That underscore thing in the notation thing, I want it to be shorter. It
 streches so long to other notes. For example, in this code, the
 underscore
 between the word och streches to E. I just want it to stretch to under
 the
 second A there.
 
 First of all: notes that are tied together count as one syllable.
 Second: the extender should stretch for as many syllables as you
 specify, i.e. with single underscores separated by spaces after a
 syllable: ba -- ch __ _ _ _ would have an extender stretching under
 four syllables. In Jo -- hann __ Se -- ba -- sti -- an the extender
 will stretch for as long as that syllable lasts -- in your case, that
 would mean over the two tied notes.
 However, as you note, it goes one note further, which looks odd. In
 this case, the reason for this behaviour seems to be that this is the
 last syllable in your lyrics. The docs state that the extender goes
 between a syllable and the next one. This does seem to be a minor bug,
 though, which may not be of practical consequence, since the case in
 your example is probably very rare in practice, but if it's a bug, it
 should nevertheless be looked into.
 Thirdly: there is a way around this, if you desperately want the
 lyrics to end with an extender while there is still music left: use a
 phrasing slur a\( a\)  instead of the tie a ~ a. That way, the
 notes will be counted as two syllables, and when the extender
 stretches too far it will still stretch only as far as you want it.
 
 Lastly: watch your mouth; your lyrics aren't exactly appropriate for
 such a splendid piece of software, are they ;-)
 
 
 \version 2.10.33
 
 \score {
   
   
 \relative c'' {
   \key g \major
 
   | a4 ~ a b2 | a4 ~ a e c
   | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \bar |: \break
   | a'4 b ces bis | a4 b8[ a] f2
   | e4 c e f | e4 e8[ c] b2 \break
   | a'4 a b2 | a4 a b2
   | d,4 e b'8[ a] f4 | e1 \bar |.
 }
 
 \addlyrics {
 ba -- js och __
 }
 
 \addlyrics {
 bajs två tre f -- e -- s
 }
 
   
   \layout { }
   \midi {}
   }
 
 %%% Local Variables:
 %%% coding: utf-8
 %%% End:
 
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   I do believe they think I am some kind of god.
 Han Solo:
   Well, why don't you use your divine influence and
   get us out of this?
 C-3PO:
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Thank you! Great answer! Yeah, that bug should really be fixed! Haha, you
know swedish! :-D
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Re: Professional LilyPond users?

2007-10-31 Thread Dominic Neumann
I use LilyPond for commercial projects. I typeset songbooks and song
sheets primarily for church use.

Dominic


2007/11/1, notesetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm just wondering (out of simple curiosity) if there are individuals in this
 forum or elsewhere who are using LilyPond to engrave commercial projects.
 I'm new to LilyPond but thus far I like what I see. I have entertained the
 thought of offering LilyPond engraving as a service (after I become much
 more proficient with it) sometime in the future and wonder if there is
 anyone currently using this wonderful software in a commercial capacity.

 Thanks,

 Dave
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