Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 09.11.2007 (21:02), Graham Percival wrote:
 OK, it's finally time for the big fight!

 In managing the docs, I need to weigh multiple contradictory demands.

 PDF vs. HTML: pdf readers generally prefer to have consecutive 
 documentation, with few links.  HTML readers generally prefer to have 
 links everywhere.

Slight correction: pdf readers do like links -- internal ones -- it's a
Good Thing. Having unneccessary divisions into separate documents which
then cannot be linked, is a Bad Thing. 

 Stable docs vs. wiki: some people want an unchanging, complete, finished 
 set of docs, particularly if they print them out.  Other people like the 
 constant flux of web 2.0 stuff.

I agree completely with your position that there should be one stable,
complete, fixed set of docs, and that a wiki solution is not good for a
complex piece of software like LP.
On the other hand, I see the numerous private LP-tips-and-tricks-pages as a
result of this: a feeling something like: I have figured out some neat
things but since the docs are stable, complete, fixed, there is no way in
there, so I'll make my own page. This is fine, but for the user who is
looking for that extra information, it means that he has to hunt around
among disparate pages of varying quality, organization, and up-to-date-ness.
This may not be an accurate description anymore: with the LSR as a
well-established and semi-official entity, there is hardly any need for the
private pages anymore. In other words: I think it's fine as it is now: a
fixed documentation and an officially endorsed repo of user-contributed
stuff. One might still discuss practicalities: should the LSR only be
snippets, is snippets the right term (or does it give too much
associations in the direction of trifles?), etc. but that is another
discussion for another thread.

 Out of all of these concerns, I naturally feel that my own position is the 
 most important.  If anybody wants me to relax my we don't have the 
 resources to do this position, please volunteer in GDP.  If I have more 
 resources, of course I'll accept more good doc ideas,

As an aside: I did volunteer, but I still get the we don't have the
resources reply.  :-) 

 Some PDF users may not be so fond of the snippets because they move 
 material out of the main docs.  I'd like to point out that the Snippets 
 are available as PDF, so that might mitigate this concern.

The pdf does not contain the LP code, so it is fairly useless, at least in
its current state.

 My proposal, taking into consideration all the contradictory demands laid 
 out at the top of this email, is to have one or two tweaks in the 
 @commonprop.  The main goal of @commonprop is to pique the interest of a 
 reader, to encourage him to follow the Snippets: foo, bar links.

Finally, the reason why I started writing this: is this really the purpose
of @commonprops? Or phrased differently: given the lack of resources and
the concern that the documentation files grow too big, is it really a good
idea to fill it up with appetizers?  What I want to say is: if what you're
saying is that everything which is now in @commonprop is just appetizers,
some of it could even be removed, and what remains will remain as
appetizers, I disagree, but if you're saying that the @commonprops should
be revised so that all that which is necessary to accomplish normal
typesetting tasks, i.e. solve commonly encountered problems, or as Trevor
recently wrote: to reproduce anything in a score found on their
bookshelves, should be elevated to main documentation text whereas that
which is more of the btw, you can also do THIS kind could be moved to the
LSR, I do agree. In any case, the flow should go in both directions:
important tweaks in the LSR should be moved into the docs (but I think we
agree on that).

On the whole: the NR should contain everything and nothing but that which
is necessary for the score on the bookshelf test.

Eyolf

-- 
Several years ago, an international chess tournament was being held in a
swank hotel in New York.  Most of the major stars of the chess world were
there, and after a grueling day of chess, the players and their entourages
retired to the lobby of the hotel for a little refreshment.  In the lobby,
some players got into a heated argument about who was the brightest, the
fastest, and the best chess player in the world.  The argument got quite
loud, as various players claimed that honor.  At that point, a security
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Re: GDP: NR Specification

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 08.11.2007 (15:44), Graham Percival wrote:
  Based on the recent discussions, what should change in the written policy?

I'd say: the following sentence:

  However, they should be familiar with the material in the Learning
  Manual (particularly ``Fundamental Concepts''), so do not repeat
  that material in this book.  Also, you should assume that users

Fundamental concepts should be explained in the NR also, but in a different
style than in the LM: in the NR in a precise, technical man page-like way,
in the LM in a tutorial style. There should not be *information* in the LM
which is not also available from the NR, it should just be presented
differently.

Eyolf

-- 
Sometimes I indulge myself in safaris which no other being may take. I strike 
inward along the axis of my memories. Like a schoolchild reporting on a 
vacation trip, I take up my subject. Let it be . . . female intellectuals!
I course backward into the ocean which is my ancestors. I am a great winged
fish in the depths. The mouth of my awareness opens and I scoop them up! 
Sometimes... sometimes I hunt out specific persons recorded in our histories. 
What a private joy to relive the life of such a one while I mock the academic 
pretentions which supposedly formed a biography.

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Centering bass figures vertically (lilypond-book)

2007-11-10 Thread Michael Käppler

Hi all,
I'm working on a LaTeX document with integrated Lilypond(2.11.34) 
snippets. Mostly the snippets only consist of a bass figure, like this:


\begin[ragged-right, staffsize=12]{lilypond}
\new FiguredBass \figuremode { \set figuredBassAlterationDirection = #1 
5! 4 }

\end{lilypond}

I would like to vertically center these figures in relation to the text 
i.e. with \parbox[c]. But since Lilypond adds some whitespace above the 
figures' top, this doesn't work. Is there a way to center the figures 
vertically or to remove the free space above(or add some at the bottom, 
too)?


Regards,
Michael



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Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Graham Percival



Eyolf Østrem wrote:

On 09.11.2007 (21:02), Graham Percival wrote:


PDF vs. HTML: pdf readers generally prefer to have consecutive 
documentation, with few links.  HTML readers generally prefer to have 
links everywhere.


Slight correction: pdf readers do like links -- internal ones -- it's a
Good Thing. Having unneccessary divisions into separate documents which
then cannot be linked, is a Bad Thing. 


Oh, was that your concern?  Separate documents can still be linked.  I 
thought we already had that, but apparently it wasn't working.  Take a 
look at tomorrow's GDP.


(I think the files need to be in the same directory, however)

(also, they look uglier than they should.  As always, I'm accepting 
technical help)


However, these links don't help people who print out PDFs.  (well, they 
help slightly, but they're not ideal.  OTOH, there's no difference 
between a link to a different document and a link to the same document 
-- actually, if anything I'd suggest that links to other documents are 
better, since you can have two printed manuals open at the same time)



On the other hand, I see the numerous private LP-tips-and-tricks-pages as a
result of this: a feeling something like: I have figured out some neat
things but since the docs are stable, complete, fixed, there is no way in
there, so I'll make my own page. This is fine, but for the user who is
looking for that extra information, it means that he has to hunt around
among disparate pages of varying quality, organization, and up-to-date-ness.


I would argue that this is _not_ fine, for precisely the reasons you 
state.  Ideally, users should look for info in two places:

- official docs (be it NR, IR, LM, etc)
- LSR (which is massively promoted, and linked to, from the official docs)


 One might still discuss practicalities: should the LSR only be
snippets, is snippets the right term (or does it give too much
associations in the direction of trifles?), etc. but that is another
discussion for another thread.


The real music tag in LSR is aimed at longer pieces.  (it currently 
doesn't do that, simply because we don't have any pieces to tag with this)


Out of all of these concerns, I naturally feel that my own position is the 
most important.  If anybody wants me to relax my we don't have the 
resources to do this position, please volunteer in GDP.  If I have more 
resources, of course I'll accept more good doc ideas,


As an aside: I did volunteer, but I still get the we don't have the
resources reply.  :-) 


The volunteer more.  Eyolf, currently you are the *only* person working 
on Rewriting NR 1.  The entire chapter needs to be done before the end 
of 2007.


Now do you see why I keep on saying we can't do X?  :(

Some PDF users may not be so fond of the snippets because they move 
material out of the main docs.  I'd like to point out that the Snippets 
are available as PDF, so that might mitigate this concern.


The pdf does not contain the LP code, so it is fairly useless, at least in
its current state.


That's on the todo list.

My proposal, taking into consideration all the contradictory demands laid 
out at the top of this email, is to have one or two tweaks in the 
@commonprop.  The main goal of @commonprop is to pique the interest of a 
reader, to encourage him to follow the Snippets: foo, bar links.


Finally, the reason why I started writing this: is this really the purpose
of @commonprops?


Well, that's the main question in this discussion.  :-)

My proposal -- only a *proposal* -- is to use it as appetizers.

 In any case, the flow should go in both directions:

important tweaks in the LSR should be moved into the docs (but I think we
agree on that).


Important tweaks in LSR are moved into the docs by giving them a docs tag.


My rule of thumb for the docs: after the end of GDP, the NR should not 
change for the next five years.


This obviously isn't possible -- no matter how careful we are, we'll 
miss a few typos or have some badly worded English.  Lilypond will get 
some new features, which will need to some docs.  The syntax will 
change, but this can/should/might be updateable with convert-ly.  The 
non-tweaking syntax is fairly stable, at least.


Stuff which might be changing more often -- the exact syntax of tweaks, 
making tweaks more interesting/complicated/simpler/etc, adding new 
tweaks -- should be done in a manner which allows easy updating.  LSR is 
such a method.



In this case, about 80% of my argument relies on lack of resources 
rather than I think that documentation looks better this way.  Or in 
other words, documentation is a process, not a product.  And we have 
very few resources which we direct towards that process.


Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 10.11.2007 (06:17), Graham Percival wrote:
  Eyolf Østrem wrote:
  Slight correction: pdf readers do like links -- internal ones -- it's a
  Good Thing. Having unneccessary divisions into separate documents which
  then cannot be linked, is a Bad Thing. 
 
  Oh, was that your concern?

Half of it. The other -- main --  half is searching. Furthermore,
cross-document linking isn't as uncomplicated as you make it appear: as you
say, the files must be in the same dir, and they have to exist in the first
place (what if I use my own copy of the NR and for some reason haven't
downloaded the PU?).

  On the other hand, I see the numerous private LP-tips-and-tricks-pages as a
  result of this: a feeling something like: I have figured out some neat
  things but since the docs are stable, complete, fixed, there is no way in
  there, so I'll make my own page. This is fine, but for the user who is
  looking for that extra information, it means that he has to hunt around
  among disparate pages of varying quality, organization, and up-to-date-ness.
 
  I would argue that this is _not_ fine, for precisely the reasons you state.  
 Ideally, users 
  should look for info in two places:
  - official docs (be it NR, IR, LM, etc)
  - LSR (which is massively promoted, and linked to, from the official docs)

Agreed - that's what I meant too, and I think it's a great step when we
have in fact got these two channels. At the time, i.e. before LSR was
firmly established, it was fine, because there was no easy outlet for that
kind of wiki-like contributions, but now the LSR should  take care of
that. 

  As an aside: I did volunteer, but I still get the we don't have the
  resources reply.  :-) 
 
  The volunteer more.  Eyolf, currently you are the *only* person working
  on Rewriting NR 1.  The entire chapter needs to be done before the end
  of 2007.
 
Well, if what you say below is the goal, that on the whole the docs should
not change after the GDP, I'd say there is no need to rush it, especially
if there are so few people to do the work. As for me, I have a daytime job
too...

  Now do you see why I keep on saying we can't do X?  :(

Of course. As long as it doesn't turn into a We can't do X, so we won't
even consider it, not even if it would make Y -- which we can and must do
-- easier.
But I'm not advocating featuritis.

  Finally, the reason why I started writing this: is this really the purpose
  of @commonprops?
 
  Well, that's the main question in this discussion.  :-)
 
  My proposal -- only a *proposal* -- is to use it as appetizers.
 
   In any case, the flow should go in both directions:
  important tweaks in the LSR should be moved into the docs (but I think we
  agree on that).
 
  Important tweaks in LSR are moved into the docs by giving them a docs tag.

but that will only include them in the snippet part of the docs, right?
This may of course be enough in many cases, but there are some snippets
which are central enough to merit inclusion in the main text as well. The
snippet Adding an extra staff (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=110)
IMHO should be included directly, and Adding beams, slurs, ties, etc.
(http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=321) is even *formulated* in a
Documentation way, as an extension to what is already in there, rather than
an additional piece of information. Those two could go almost straight in.

eyolf (who will now stop spending time writing list mail and instead do
some volunteer work...)

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-- Shakespeare, Julius Caesar 3,1
 
Here is a letter, read it at your leisure.
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 referring to I/O system services.]


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Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Graham Percival



Eyolf Østrem wrote:

The entire chapter needs to be done before the end
 of 2007.
 
Well, if what you say below is the goal, that on the whole the docs should

not change after the GDP, I'd say there is no need to rush it, especially
if there are so few people to do the work.


Two phases: before 2007, get GDP no worse than the 2.11 docs.  That 
means somebody spending a week looking at each section in NR 1 and 
cleaning up the worst TODO / FIXMEs.


After 2007, if anybody is still interested, we'll try go bring GDP from 
not worse than to significantly better than.  Or perhaps even 
perfect.  :)



 Now do you see why I keep on saying we can't do X?  :(


Of course. As long as it doesn't turn into a We can't do X, so we won't
even consider it, not even if it would make Y -- which we can and must do
-- easier.


True.



 Important tweaks in LSR are moved into the docs by giving them a docs tag.


but that will only include them in the snippet part of the docs, right?
This may of course be enough in many cases, but there are some snippets
which are central enough to merit inclusion in the main text as well. The
snippet Adding an extra staff (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=110)
IMHO should be included directly, and Adding beams, slurs, ties, etc.
(http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=321) is even *formulated* in a
Documentation way, as an extension to what is already in there, rather than
an additional piece of information. Those two could go almost straight in.


First, THANK YOU!!! for bringing up specific examples.  Especially in 
this case, since I was thought you were talking about a totally 
different kind of snippet.


Second, yes I totally agree; these kinds of snippets should be in the 
main docs.  In fact,  321 is already verbatim in LM 3.3.1.  110 doesn't 
appear anywhere, but I'm adding it to LM 3 right now.



eyolf (who will now stop spending time writing list mail and instead do
some volunteer work...)


:)

Cheers,
- Graham


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octava line broken in polyphony

2007-11-10 Thread Charles Gran
Why does the octava line in this example get broken up?


\relative c' {
  \clef treble
  \time 2/2
   { r2 b'4 b8 c ~ | c2 e4 e8 f | #(set-octavation 1) r4 g'2 c,4 ~ 
| c e2. | r4 a2 e4 ~ | e f2. | } \\ { e,,4 e8 f e2 | a4 a8 bes a2 | 
a' a | a f | e g | a1 | } 
   { r4 g'2 c,4 ~ | c e2. | r4 a2 e4 ~ | e f2. | #(set-octavation 
0) } \\ { a,2 a | a f | e g | a1 | }  \clef bass  { r4 ees,, aes 
c } \\ { c }  \clef treble d' d'2 | b b'1 | r1 |
}


Charles
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octava-test.ly
Description: Binary data
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Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Jeff Elliott
I also have (just last night) had a similar vertical spacing problem  
(2.11.34).
I had a piece covering two pages, the majority on the first page, and  
the page break was where
I wanted it.  Then I change a bit of the spacing of a text markup  
(extra-offset) and I lost one of the
systems on the first page.  I thought, no problem I'll just adjust  
some of the parameters ( like
between-system-padding, between-system-space).  But I couldn't get  
the last system (or sometimes
last two systems), back onto the first page.  I could get the systems  
to be closer together,
but that would just leave even more space at the bottom of the page  
(more than enough space
for one if not two systems).  I adjusted the top margin to something  
like 1mm and I got my
system back, but the systems were way more spaced out than they  
needed to be, and the small
margin at the top was too small.  I ended up with finding a different  
place to break the pages.


Maybe I should note that each system contained a ChordNames, one  
regular Staff, and another
special Staff which had a linecount of 0.  I had wondered if that  
last Staff might be confusing

the vertical spacing.

Jeff.

On 10-Nov-07, at 1:38 AM, Paul Scott wrote:


Michael David Crawford wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:

2.11.34

In this example there is clearly room for another system on the  
first
page.  Removing anything from the header will allow another  
system to

move to the first page.  Whatever is removed from the header clearly
doesn't take as much vertical space as one system.


I have also found that increasing the height of the text at the  
bottom

of the first page will increase the page count.  My piece Recursion
was seven pages, but when I reformatted its Creative Commons license
to be a couple lines longer, the score went to eight pages.  I  
fiddled
with it for quite a while, but was completely unable to get it  
back to

seven pages and still be sensibly laid out.

Thanks for replying.

It seems to me there might be a bug in how the vertical size of the  
next
system is calculated or subtracted from the available vertical  
space on

the current page.

I have posted this in case there is some setting I am missing.

Paul



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line-width in \markuplines

2007-11-10 Thread Monk Panteleimon
Hello. 
According to the 2.11 docs (8.1.9), I should be able to change the line width in
\markuplines using \override #'(line-width . X) 
but it doesn't seem to work. 

example:
http://www.tcgalaska.com/kliros/ly/esauWood.ly


Is it a bug? 
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Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Paul Scott

Jeff Elliott wrote:
I also have (just last night) had a similar vertical spacing problem 
(2.11.34).
I had a piece covering two pages, the majority on the first page, and 
the page break was where
I wanted it.  Then I change a bit of the spacing of a text markup 
(extra-offset) and I lost one of the
systems on the first page.  I thought, no problem I'll just adjust 
some of the parameters ( like
between-system-padding, between-system-space).  But I couldn't get the 
last system (or sometimes
last two systems), back onto the first page.  I could get the systems 
to be closer together,
but that would just leave even more space at the bottom of the page 
(more than enough space
for one if not two systems).  I adjusted the top margin to something 
like 1mm and I got my
system back, but the systems were way more spaced out than they needed 
to be, and the small
margin at the top was too small.  I ended up with finding a different 
place to break the pages.


Maybe I should note that each system contained a ChordNames, one 
regular Staff, and another
special Staff which had a linecount of 0.  I had wondered if that 
last Staff might be confusing

the vertical spacing.
I also could get the page breaking to change with many different small 
changes in a system.  Just moving either of the pitches in my example 
closer to the staff will allow another staff to from the second page to 
the first page.  In my case it could be related to \RemoveEmptyStaffContext.


Paul



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How to put chords on a score automatically

2007-11-10 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Hi list,

I'm working on a four-part score for barbershop chorus.  It has four
separate voices of course, and words to the lead line, as well as words to
various parts of other voices.

My question is this:  As I arrange this, I want to have the chords I am
creating displayed  so I can see where the parts should go.  Is there a way
to have LilyPond display the chords I have created in these disparate
voices?   I know that the chords thus formed are not very smart (i.e. it
can't recognise inversions) but that's OK -- I will remove these when the
arrangement is complete.  BTW, I *did* search through the Manual to see if
there was something there, but could not find it -- if it *is* there, I will
be happy to read the relevant entries, once they are pointed out.

Thanks,

Fr. Gordon Gilbert+

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Penetanguishene, ON
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Re: How to put chords on a score automatically

2007-11-10 Thread Rune Zedeler

Father Gordon Gilbert skrev:


My question is this:  As I arrange this, I want to have the chords I am 
creating displayed


I am not sure I understand.
Something like this?

%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.10.0

sop = { g' a' }
alt = { e' f' }
bas = { c' d' }

{
  
\new ChordNames  \sop \alt \bas 
\new ChoirStaff 
  \new Staff \sop
  \new Staff \alt
  \new Staff \bas

  
}
%%% END %%%

-Rune


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Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:58:45 Paul Scott wrote:
 2.11.34

 In this example there is clearly room for another system on the first
 page.  Removing anything from the header will allow another system to
 move to the first page.  Whatever is removed from the header clearly
 doesn't take as much vertical space as one system.

Thanks for the report. There was a bug (now fixed in git) that caused a 
miscalculation of the page height if the page began with a title.

Joe


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Re: How to put chords on a score automatically

2007-11-10 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Rune -

Your example works on its own, and is roughly what I'm looking for, but when
I try to incorporate that syntax into my own (2.11.32) score, it doesn't
work.  I'd like to see the chordnames at the top of the choirstaff so I can
check my work.

My score is such that I can't really boil it down to a minimum example, but
here is the whole thing so you can see what I'm doing.  (Keep in mind that
it's not finished -- but it does compile at this stage.  And having used
templates from previous works it's probably got a whole bunch of sloppy
code.)

Thanks for any help you can give.

Fr. Gordon_

\header {
filename = AmazingGrace-Sweet-Ads.ly
enteredby = Gordon Gilbert
composer = Traditional American Melody
poet = words: Rev'd John Newton, 1779
arranger = arr. Gordon Gilbert 2007
date=
title = Amazing Grace
subtitle = Arr. for Barbershop Chorus
metre = 
meter = \metre
copyright = Public Domain - Permission granted to perform this
arrangement in a not-for-profit setting
style = Hymn

}

\version 2.11.23
\paper{
#(set-paper-size letter)
}

global= {
\time 3/4
\key g \major



}

tenor = \context Voice = tenor  \relative c' {
   \voiceOne
   \override NoteHead #'color = #green
\override Stem #'color = #green
\override Beam #'color = #green {
\partial 4 r4
b'2 d8 b d2 dis4 e2 c4 b2
a4 b2 d4 e2 e4 fis2 e4 ^ like d4( ^ me c)
b4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( e8 e c) b2
a4 b2 d4 d cis c b4( d) c4 ^ I b2 ^ see
r4
b4 c \times 2/3 {d8( c b)} d2 dis4 e( d) c4 b4 c
a4 b2 \times 2/3 {d8( c b)} e4( fis) g4 fis4( g) ( e4 d c)
b4 d2 \times 2/3 {d4 e8} f2 d4 c2 c4 b2
a4 b4 c d4 d( cis) c b2 c4 b2
r4
b2 ^ \markup \italic {Bluesy} d4 d2 d4 ees2 c4 b2
a4 b2 d4 ees2 ees4 f2 e4 d2
d4 b2 d4 d2 b4 c4.( ees8 ees c) b2
a4 b2 d4 d cis c b2.
e2. d e b2
 \new Voice = tenorDivisi { \voiceOne
 \transpose g b'
 {
\override NoteHead #'color = #green
\override Stem #'color = #green
\override Beam #'color = #green {
r4 r b4 b r4 r d'4 d'4 dis' e'2. c'4 b2. r4
r d' e' e'4 fis'4 fis'4 fis' g' a' g' fis' e'
d'( e'4 f'2 ~ f'4) f'4 d'2. d'4 g'2. d'4 c'2. c'4 b a
b2. d'4 c'( d' e') g' g'2
a'2 gis'1

 }}
   }}
 }


lead = \context Voice = lead  \relative c'  {
\voiceTwo
\override NoteHead #'color = #red
\override Stem #'color = #red
\override Beam #'color = #red {
\partial 4 d4
g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 d2. ~ d2
b4 d4.^ x( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 ( fis4 g2)
%verse 2
d4
g2 \times 2/3 {b8( a g)} b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 \times 2/3 {b8( a g)} b2 \times 2/3 {a4( b8)} d2. ~ d2
b4 d2 \times 2/3 {b8( a g)} b2 \times 2/3{b4( a8)} g2 \times 2/3 {e4(
d8)} d2
\times 2/3 {d4( e8)} g2 \times 2/3 {b8( a g)} b2 a4 g2. ~ g2
%verse 3
d4
g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2 e4 d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a8( b) d2. ~ d2
b4 d4.^ x( b8) d( b) g2 d4 e4.( g8) g( e) d2
d4 g2 b8( g) b2 a4 g2.
%bridge
a ^ \markup \italic {Bridge} b g fis2
%verse 4
\key b \major
\transpose g b'
{
d4 \time 4/4
g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g2. e4 d2.
d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a8( b) d'1 ~ d'2.
b4 d'2 ~ d'8( b8) d'( b) g2. d4 e2 ~ e8 ( g8) g( e) d2.
d4 g2. b8( g) b2. a4 g2 g2
b1 ^ \markup \italic {Tag}
a4 ^ \fermata b ^ \fermata c' ^ \fermata
r8 ^ \fermata d'8 d'1  d' ^ \fermata
}
\bar ||
}
}

bari = \context Voice = bari \relative c''   {
\voiceOne
\override NoteHead #'color = #blue
\override Stem #'color = #blue
\override Beam #'color = #blue {
\partial 4 d,4
g2 g4 g2 fis4 g2 a4 g2
a4 b2 b4 cis2 a4 d2 a4 ^ like a2 ^ me
g4 g2 g4 d2 g4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 g4 fis4. g8 fis4 g4( b) a ^ I g2 ^ see
d4
g2 g4 d'2 b4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 b4 a2 a4 d2 a4 a2
g4 b2 b4 d2 b4 c2 a4 g2
a4 b2 g4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2. ~ g2
d4
f2 ^ \markup \italic {Bluesy} f4 c'2 b4 bes2 bes4 g2
a4 f'2 f4 g2 g4 d2 a'4 a2
g4 f2 f4 d2 b4 bes2 a4 g2
a4 d2 f,4 fis4. e8 fis4 g2.
cis2. g b dis2
\new Voice = bariDivisi { \voiceOne
 \transpose g b'
 {
\override NoteHead #'color = #blue
\override Stem #'color = #blue
\override Beam #'color = #blue {
r4 r f f r r b b
fis bes2. c'4 b?2.
r4 r d' d' e' fis'2. e'4 d'


}}}

}
}

bass = \context Voice = bass \relative c'  {
\voiceTwo
\override NoteHead #'color = #magenta
\override Stem #'color = #magenta
\override Beam #'color = #magenta {
\partial 4 d4
d2 b4 d2 b4 c2 e4 g2
fis4 e2 e4 a2 cis,4 d2 e4 _ like  fis( _ me  e)
d b2 d4 g,2 d'4 c2 e4 g2
fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2 d4 _ I g,2 _ see
d'4
g,4 b d4 g4 d4 b c4. d8 e fis g2
fis4 e2 e4 a,4 b c4 b2.( a2) d4
g2 g4 g2 b4 c2 a4 g4( g)
fis4 e2 e4 d e fis g2 d4 g2
d4
g,2 b4 f'2 f4 c2 e4 e2

Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Paul Scott

Joe Neeman wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:58:45 Paul Scott wrote:
  

2.11.34

In this example there is clearly room for another system on the first
page.  Removing anything from the header will allow another system to
move to the first page.  Whatever is removed from the header clearly
doesn't take as much vertical space as one system.



Thanks for the report. There was a bug (now fixed in git) that caused a 
miscalculation of the page height if the page began with a title.
  

Thanks very much.  Sorry I missed the bug report.

Will there be a 2.11.35?

Paul



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Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2007/11/11, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks very much.  Sorry I missed the bug report.

 Will there be a 2.11.35?

Yes.  There is finally light at the end of the GUB tunnel, so
hopefully this or next week.




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Re: page breaks related to header size

2007-11-10 Thread Paul Scott

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:

2007/11/11, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  

Thanks very much.  Sorry I missed the bug report.

Will there be a 2.11.35?



Yes.  There is finally light at the end of the GUB tunnel, so
hopefully this or next week.
  

Great!  Thanks,

Paul



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