Re: graphics in scheme?
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Re: graphics in scheme?
hi, thanks for all the replies. the internal drawing commands I found don't seem to be good enough for my purposes. the use of eps and svg files seems so far only the second best solution to me. but if I fail at scheme this could well work. I will be away for a week now so I can't try any of your suggestions but be sure to hear from me when I am back. ;) regards, Tao Original-Nachricht Datum: 21 Nov 2007 09:56:54 +0100 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: graphics in scheme? Tao Cumplido [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also [...] is it actually possible to use postscript (with variables) inside scheme? Sure! You can write a scheme function that returns a string that is valid postscript, and use that postscript in a markup block. I've tried, and it works for me.[1] Of course, you then need to master Lilypond, Scheme *and* Postscript. ;-) -- Arvid [1] This was not for some articulation, though; rather, I experimented with adding ISMN bar codes to the copyright block or to the final page footer. I'll add this code to LSR some day, after some cleanup, but don't hold your breath waiting. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie into polyphony question
thanks, but is it possible to tie more than one note ( ) into
polyphony?
And do I use the correct syntax for getting polyphonic and than
homophonic again?
(if I use \\ instead of \new Voice = 1 I get no tie at all...)
ole
Am 21.11.2007 um 05:17 schrieb Paul Scott:
Ole Schmidt wrote:
Dear all,
I want to have both of the first two notes tied -the d and the f-
sharp. How do I achieve that?
Thanks for a hint
ole
%%%
\version 2.10.15
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
\relative c' {
r4 d~ fis~ 2| \voiceOne
{ fis8. d'16 } \new Voice = 1 { \voiceTwo d,4 }
\oneVoice r2 |
} }
%%
It's not clear what you might have needed around this snippet but
the following works in 2.11.34
\version 2.10.15
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
\relative c' {
r4 { fis2 ~ fis8. d'16 } \\ { d,2 ~ d4 } r2 |
}
}
Paul Scott
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RE: modifying piano templates
David
The extract below may help you. You will need to adjust the number, and
provide the content, of the variables called \globalStaff and \PianoRHVoiceOneA
etc. The parts ...A, ...B, etc contain music in sequence; for example,
corresponding to different sections, movements or pages. More voices can be
added in a similar way as needed.
One of the objectives of the revised documentation is to help users build their
own templates. When this is in a state to invite user comments perhaps you
would be good enough to review it?
Trevor
\score
\new PianoStaff
% set up RH and LH piano staves in parallel
\new Staff % set up RH Voices One and Two in parallel
\clef treble
\globalStaff
\new Voice=RHOne {
\voiceOne
\PianoRHVoiceOneA
\PianoRHVoiceOneB
\PianoRHVoiceOneC
}
\new Voice=RHTwo {
\voiceTwo
\PianoRHVoiceTwoA
\PianoRHVoiceTwoB
\PianoRHVoiceTwoC
}
% end RH Staff
\new Staff % set up LH Voices One and Two in parallel
\clef bass
\globalStaff
\new Voice=LHOne {
\voiceOne
\PianoLHVoiceOneA
\PianoLHVoiceOneB
\PianoLHVoiceOneC
}
\new Voice=LHTwo {
\voiceTwo
\PianoLHVoiceTwoA
\PianoLHVoiceTwoB
\PianoLHVoiceTwoC
}
% end LH Staff
% end PianoStaff
% end GrandStaff
}
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Subject: modifying piano templates
Hello:
As I've been working on music further into the
18th and 19th Centuries
I've realised that almost all piano music is 4
voiced polyphonic
Harmony. I realise statement is somewhat
redundant however it serves
to point the independent melodic character of
many of the parts.
I've been looking through Mutopia for a suitable
template but found
that the solutions are mostly unique to each
typesetter and also
complex enough that I cannot easily cull out what
is essential to a
template from what is unique to that piece of music.
While I have a basic understanding ( I think) of
how things work, it
is not sufficient to build a workable template
that can server as a
durable starting point to work from.
Much of what I am doing will need to be excerpted
for use in articles
or essays or even the web. l can see that as I
move further ahead, the
writing gets more complex and more complex
typesetting solutions are
necessary. My skill set simply cannot keep up
with it. Can anyone help
out with this?
Cheers
David
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life time is not enough
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barline thickness
Here I attach two samples scanned from paper. Details below. My question is simply: am I the only person with this problem? Others would be, Is lilypond generating wrong PDFs? Is my printer wrong? Is ubuntu gutsy evince wrongly printing PDFs? Details: laserjet-png.png comes from a PNG generated by LilyPond with the --png -dresolution=600 commandline options. laserjet-pdf.png comes from a PDF generated by LilyPond. Both images are printed on a laserjet P2015dn at the default resolution (FastRes). This is 600dpi I think. Then I scanned the printed papers at 300 dpi. Clearly the PDF has a barline MUCH thicker than the PNG and it's not a matter of resolution (other vertical lines look fine). Wider views are available in: http://www.paconet.org/laserjet-png.png http://www.paconet.org/laserjet-pdf.png Thank you. My workaround these days is to generate and print only PNGs, but windows users also report this problem in other systems and printers. 2007/11/19, Paco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El Sun, 18 de Nov de 2007, a las 10:50:47PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson dijo: Paco Vila wrote: In 2.11.34, I've found that default barline thickness is a bit too thick, even printed at 1200 dpi. Where is this default set? I'm sorry but I still have not managed to override it thinner. In the section on Bar Lines in the on-line manual, click on BarLine at the bottom of the page to see a list of properties that are set by default on the BarLine object. This includes, among others a property called hair-thickness with default value 1.9. To change that setting, add \override Score.BarLine #'hair-thickness = #1.5 in your code... Yes, thank you, but I think my problem is more serious than I thought. Barlines appear much, much thicker on printed paper than on PDF or PNG! Leftmost barline (the one on the left edge of the staff) appears thin, just like the staff lines. But standard barlines seem to be five or six times as thick; moreover, (try to explain well, Paco) their top and bottom ends are higher (and lower, respectively) than the topmost (resp. lowest) staff line, surpassing the system in length, as if they were surrounded by a rounded outline. On next days I'll try to scan a prined copy to show you what I'm saying. I have a recent Laserjet driven by PS drivers (I've heard that it works internally with PCL anyway). Has anybody a similar problem? Maybe it's just my printer. She doesn't seem to like LP too much. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org attachment: detail-laserjet-pdf.pngattachment: detail-laserjet-png.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: once again with a header, tie into polyphony question
Ole
Notes in different voices cannot be tied together. The
notes in your first chord are in the default voice whereas
the second d is in the voice called 1. As the d and fis
in the second bar have different durations yet start at the
same time they cannot be placed in the same voice. So you
have to place the notes in the first chord in different
voices too. If the polyphony is of short duration this is
the easiest way:
\new Staff
\time 3/4
\relative c' {
r4
{ fis2~ } \\ { d2~ } |
{ fis8. d'16 } \\ { d,4 }
r2 |
}
but if the polyphony is much longer it may be better to
explicitly instantiate the voices:
\new Staff
\time 3/4
\new Voice = 1 {
\voiceOne
\relative c' {
r4 fis2~ |
fis8. d'16 r2 |
}
}
\new Voice = 2 {
\voiceTwo
\relative c' {
s4 d2~ |
d4 s2 |
}
}
(note the different octave specification on the d4 as the
relative positions in the input are different in the two
approaches)
Both of these methods cause the stems on the first d2 to
point down. This can be fixed if you really want them up.
Trevor D
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Subject: once again with a header, tie into
polyphony question
Dear all,
I want to have both of the first two notes tied
-the d and the f-
sharp. How do I achieve that?
Thanks for a hint
ole
%%%
\version 2.10.15
\new Staff {
\time 3/4
\relative c' {
r4 d~ fis~ 2| \voiceOne
{ fis8. d'16 } \new Voice = 1 { \voiceTwo
d,4 } \oneVoice
r2 |
} }
%%
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Re: once again with a header, tie into polyphony question
Ole Schmidt skrev:
I want to have both of the first two notes tied -the d and the f-sharp.
How do I achieve that?
The problem is, that the Tie_engraver - that generates ties - lives at
voice level. That means that the Tie_engraver can only see notes in
the same voice - and therefore cannot tie notes from different voices
together.
The reason why the engraver does not live at Staff level is that this
would make ties in polyphony impossible. If you for instance have
e4 ~ e8 e8
//
c8 c8 ~ c4
Then - if the Tie_engraver were living at Staff level - it would see e
followed by c followed by e. Therefore the two e's that you try to tie
together would not be seen as neighbours, and the engraver would be
confused and produce bad results.
If you really REALLY really need to tie different voice together then
you can add the tie-engraver to BOTH staff and voice. And manually make
the ties that you are not interested in invisible.
It goes like this:
%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.10.25
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists Tie_engraver
\override Tie #'transparent = ##t
}
\context {
\Voice
\override Tie #'transparent = ##f
}
}
tiesToVoice = {
\revert Staff.Tie #'transparent \override Staff.Tie #'transparent = ##t
\revert Voice.Tie #'transparent \override Voice.Tie #'transparent = ##f
}
tiesToStaff = {
\revert Staff.Tie #'transparent \override Staff.Tie #'transparent = ##f
\revert Voice.Tie #'transparent \override Voice.Tie #'transparent = ##t
}
{
\transpose c c' {
\tiesToStaff
e c 4 ~ e c 8 e c ~
{ e e e e |
\tiesToVoice
e4 ~ e8 e }
\\ { c8 c c c |
\tiesToVoice
c8 c ~ c4 }
}
}
%%% END %%%
I will add this to LSR as soon as I get the \revert \override -thing
checked. I do not understand why it cannot be replaced with \set.
-Rune
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Re: page breaks related to header size
2007/11/21, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just release 2.11.35. I'll be happy to test it when it's available. it's already on lilypond.org, however, something must have broken with our mirroring process to linuxaudio.org -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Spanning bar lines in mensural notation
Using StaffGroup was already a first step, thank you.
Now I am still worried about lyrics clashing with bar lines as in the
following example:
\version 2.11.32
global = {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\key c\major
\time 2/2
\override NoteHead #'style = #'neomensural
\override Voice.Rest #'style = #'neomensural
\override Score.BarLine #'transparent = ##t
}
cantusNotes =
\relative c'' {
\set Staff.instrumentName = Cantus
\clef petrucci-c1
g1 fis2 g a4 e g1 fis2 g1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
e2 a1 gis2 a b c1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
}
cantusLyrics = \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-1
I Lift mine eyes to Si -- on Hill,
from whence I doe at -- tend,
}
altusNotes =
\relative c' {
\set Staff.instrumentName = Altus
\clef petrucci-c3
d1 d2 d e2. d4 d2. c4 b1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
r2 e2 e e2. fis4 g2 g1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
}
altusLyrics = \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-1
I Lift mine eyes to Si -- on Hill,
from whence I doe at -- tend,
}
tenorNotes =
\relative c'{
\set Staff.instrumentName = Tenor
\clef petrucci-c4
g1 a2 g c b a a g1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
c1 c2 b c d e1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
}
tenorLyrics = \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-1
I Lift mine eyes to Si -- on Hill,
from whence I doe at -- tend,
}
bassusNotes =
\relative c {
\set Staff.instrumentName = Bassus
\clef petrucci-f4
g1 d'2 b a g d' d g,1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
a1 e'2 e a g c,1
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'transparent = ##f
\bar |
}
bassusLyrics = \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-1
I Lift mine eyes to Si -- on Hill,
from whence I doe at -- tend,
}
\score {
\new StaffGroup = choirStaff
\new Voice = cantusNotes \global \cantusNotes
\new Lyrics = cantusLyrics \lyricsto cantusNotes
{\cantusLyrics}
\new Voice = altusNotes \global \altusNotes
\new Lyrics = altusLyrics \lyricsto altusNotes {\altusLyrics}
\new Voice = tenorNotes \global \tenorNotes
\new Lyrics = tenorLyrics \lyricsto tenorNotes {\tenorLyrics}
\new Voice = bassusNotes \global \bassusNotes
\new Lyrics = bassusLyrics \lyricsto bassusNotes
{\bassusLyrics}
\layout {
\context { \Score \consists Span_bar_engraver}
}
}
The same problem arose when I substituted StaffGroup with ChoirStaff,
and it is obviously even worse in pieces with Breve bars instead of Verse
bars. Where am I wrong?
erminia
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Re: page breaks related to header size
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Re: page breaks related to header size
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Re: Spanning bar lines in mensural notation
2007/11/21, erminia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Using StaffGroup was already a first step, thank you.
Now I am still worried about lyrics clashing with bar lines as in the
following example:
Here is a smaller one:
%begin
\version 2.11.34
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff { c'8 c' c' c' c' c' c' c'
c' c' c' c' c' c' c' c' }
\addlyrics { a a a a a a a a schwartz c c c c c c c }
\new Staff { c'1 c'1 } \addlyrics { a schwartz }
%\layout{
%\context {
% \Lyrics
%\consists Bar_engraver
%}
% }
% see bug 501 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=501
% end
If you uncomment the layout block (what means to welcome the bar
engraver into the lyrics context) there is no clashing. Be careful
because this causes tiny barlines of one dot in height to be printed.
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Auto beam changing
Hello!
I have a problem with auto beam settings. For example:
\relative{
\time 4/4
c8 c c c c c c c
}
I want to split eight notes from each other. How to make that?
Thanks,
N.S.
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Re: Auto beam changing
You read the documentation. setting automatic beaming is probably a
good section to start with.
- Graham
Nikita Sorokin wrote:
Hello!
I have a problem with auto beam settings. For example:
\relative{
\time 4/4
c8 c c c c c c c
}
I want to split eight notes from each other. How to make that?
Thanks,
N.S.
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Re: 2.11.35 does not run
Paco Vila wrote: GNU LilyPond 2.11.35 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path I promise further testing. switching back to .De34 works fine. Works fine on my Debian sid system. Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.35 does not run
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Re: Strange barline appearance
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00063.html
/Mats
Michael Käppler wrote:
Hi,
why does the barline look so strange in this example?
I can't remember having experienced this with older Lily, but 2.11.33
seems to behave the same way.
Greetz,
Michael
\version 2.11.34
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Voice = VoiceI \relative c'' { g1 \bar || }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceI \lyricmode { bla }
\new Voice = VoiceII \relative c'' { g1 }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceII \lyricmode { bla }
\new Voice = VoiceIII \relative c'' { g1 }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceIII \lyricmode { bla }
\layout {
\context {
\Lyrics
\consists Bar_engraver
\consists Separating_line_group_engraver
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
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Strange barline appearance
Hi,
why does the barline look so strange in this example?
I can't remember having experienced this with older Lily, but 2.11.33
seems to behave the same way.
Greetz,
Michael
\version 2.11.34
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Voice = VoiceI \relative c'' { g1 \bar || }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceI \lyricmode { bla }
\new Voice = VoiceII \relative c'' { g1 }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceII \lyricmode { bla }
\new Voice = VoiceIII \relative c'' { g1 }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto VoiceIII \lyricmode { bla }
\layout {
\context {
\Lyrics
\consists Bar_engraver
\consists Separating_line_group_engraver
\override BarLine #'transparent = ##t
}
}
}
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Re: 2.11.35 does not run
El Wed, 21 de Nov de 2007, a las 03:08:23PM -0600, Stan Sanderson dijo: On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Paul Scott wrote: Paco Vila wrote: GNU LilyPond 2.11.35 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path I promise further testing. switching back to .De34 works fine. Works fine on my Debian sid system. Paul I get the same error reported by Paco on Macintosh PPC-Darwin, OS 10.4.11. Stan Does not work in Windows XP either. Guile library not found, IIRC, I'm sorry for not being more precise. -- Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.35 does not run
2007/11/21, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Paul Scott wrote: Paco Vila wrote: GNU LilyPond 2.11.35 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file ice-9/boot-9.scm in load path I promise further testing. switching back to .De34 works fine. Works fine on my Debian sid system. Paul I get the same error reported by Paco on Macintosh PPC-Darwin, OS 10.4.11. Stan Does not work in Windows XP either. Guile library not found, IIRC, I'm sorry for not being more precise. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: once again with a header, tie into polyphony question
On 21.11.2007 (13:58), Rune Zedeler wrote:
Ole Schmidt skrev:
I want to have both of the first two notes tied -the d and the f-sharp. How
do I achieve
that?
Another possibility is to fake it by letting a stemless (i.e. transparent
stem) in one voice be merged with that of another: the head is still there,
and can therefore start a tie, but it appears as if the ties change from
one voice to another. Below is the first measure of Fernando Sor's Fantasie
elegiaque, which requires the notes of a grace-like arpeggio to be tied to
three different voices. It may not be the prettiest code in the world, but
at least it works
(BTW, I thought there was supposed to be something like
\override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t
\override Staff.NoteCollision #'merge-differently-headed = ##t
in there, but apparently, it works)
\relative c' {
\key e\minor
\time 4/4
{
\set Staff.tieWaitForNote = ##t
\partial 64*5
\voiceOne \slurDown
a64\f fis' c'
\tieDown
dis64~ c'
\stemUp
dis, c'4..
\times 2/5 { b'32 a g fis e } dis8
}
\\
{
\voiceTwo
s64
\once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
fis,64~
\noBeam \once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
c'64*3~ fis, c'4..
}
\\
{
\voiceFour
\once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t
\tieDown
a,64*5 ~
\stemDown a2
}
}
Eyolf
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