Re: Beam damping

2007-12-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2007/12/10, Rune Zedeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thomas Scharkowski skrev:
>
> > is it possible to produce horizontal beams somehow?
> > \override Beam #'damping = #10 does not work, as already reported
> > last year:
>
> The value #10 is not big enough
> Try
> \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0

I think the proper solution is to insert a ideal-dy property, which is read
in Beam::calc_least_squares_position(). If we had that mechanism, you
could set the property to 0 to get horizontal beams.

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Re: partcombine, but including rests in quiet voices?

2007-12-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
2007/12/11, Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>
> Lilypond's partcombine comes quite close tho these guidelines, but in a few
> (but important) cases, it does not, most notably in the last case (where
> lilypond detects a "solo" also if one instrument is quiet for only one
> quarter!)
>

Lily's part combine works for a lot of cases but is very fragile, as
it has no notion of note (or rest length); it only looks at onset
times of notes.

I think there is little else to do but writing new code. Since you're
versed with coding C++, it might be something that interests you, and
I would be glad to guide you. Unfortunately, I don't have any time to
take this on myself.

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Re: OS X 10.5 SDK

2007-12-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
That's not the problem.  The problem is that we have to have a
versions of the tools that runs on Linux.

2007/12/16, Maurits Lamers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
>
> Following a message from the beginning of this year, I understood the
> development team still has not the SDK for Mac OSX Leopard. 
> (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/12674


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OS X 10.5 SDK

2007-12-16 Thread Maurits Lamers

Hi all,

Following a message from the beginning of this year, I understood the  
development team still has not the SDK for Mac OSX Leopard. (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/12674 
)


Please let me know if this still is the case. If it is, I most  
probably can provide a copy of the Mac OSX 10.5 SDK, which seems to  
follow the exact structure as earlier versions of the SDK and most  
probably the darwin-sdk's that have been used with GUB.


regards

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Re: Removing time signatures (yet again!)

2007-12-16 Thread Ole Schmidt


Am 16.12.2007 um 22:56 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


There are several other alternatives to do this kind of
property settings, for example if want to make one setting
that applies to all staves of all scores.


would this be a correct solution?

%%
\layout {  \context {

\Score \override TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f  } }

 {
 <<
   \new Staff   {
   \clef treble
{\partial 4 d'  }

}
   \new Staff {
 \clef bass
{\partial 4  f,}

}
>>

}

%%%

best

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Re: VoltaBracket padding

2007-12-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson

See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00020.html
for a solution that applies to version 2.10.

   /Mats

Trevor Daniels wrote:


The placement of outside-staff objects has been reworked in
2.11.  I see no collision in 2.11.34.  I recommend an
upgrade to the latest 2.11 version.

Trevor D

 


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To: Lilypondusers
Subject: VoltaBracket padding


Hi lilyponders

I don't know why the voltabracket is printed on
the text. Anyway the
manual padding is not working.
\version "2.10.33"
\paper {
 raggedright = ##f
}
\score{

\new Staff{
c'4 c' c' c'
\override VoltaBracket #'padding = #5
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
2^\markup{\center-align {\italic
I}}^\markup{\center-align {\smaller 6}} e''8.[ f''16]
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
}}

any ideas?

Thank you

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Re: Removing time signatures (yet again!)

2007-12-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson

You have misunderstood the syntax. Just move the
\once \override commands within the curly braces,
i.e. keep them together with the actual music.

By the way, are you sure that you want to use the "\once",
which means that the time signature will only be removed
on the first staff line, not later in the score.

There are several other alternatives to do this kind of
property settings, for example if want to make one setting
that applies to all staves of all scores. These things are
described in the manual, but I have an idea of how to
explain it more clearly and hopefully I will get the time to
update the manual soon, based on these ideas.

 /Mats

Bob Harvey wrote:


Hi,

Please forgive my limited understanding of musical notation and scoring -- I am 
very new to this whole area, so my use of terminology might be clumsy or 
incorrect.  I have explored several of the different approaches, that I have 
found in these lists, to removing the time signature.  However all the ones I 
try work OK if you only have one stave, but not if you have two (a treble and a 
bass clef).  So, the script below works to remove the time signature for the 
treble clef stave, but not that for the bass clef.  If you remove the comment 
above the bass clef stave it parses OK but produces something quite odd (to my 
eyes, anyway) and certainly not what I expect or desire.

\version "2.10.5" 

\relative c 
{ 
<< 
  \new Staff 
 \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f 
 {  \clef treble  \partial 4 d' } 
  \new Staff 
%  \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f 
 { \clef bass \partial 4  f, } 
>> 
} 


What I want to get is exactly as this script produces, yet without the time 
signature for the bass clef.  Hope someone can help.

Regards, Bob.


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Removing time signatures (yet again!)

2007-12-16 Thread Bob Harvey
Hi,

Please forgive my limited understanding of musical notation and scoring -- I am 
very new to this whole area, so my use of terminology might be clumsy or 
incorrect.  I have explored several of the different approaches, that I have 
found in these lists, to removing the time signature.  However all the ones I 
try work OK if you only have one stave, but not if you have two (a treble and a 
bass clef).  So, the script below works to remove the time signature for the 
treble clef stave, but not that for the bass clef.  If you remove the comment 
above the bass clef stave it parses OK but produces something quite odd (to my 
eyes, anyway) and certainly not what I expect or desire.

\version "2.10.5" 

\relative c 
 { 
 << 
   \new Staff 
  \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f 
  {  \clef treble  \partial 4 d' } 
   \new Staff 
%  \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f 
  { \clef bass \partial 4  f, } 
 >> 
 } 

What I want to get is exactly as this script produces, yet without the time 
signature for the bass clef.  Hope someone can help.

Regards, Bob.


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Re: moving dynamics

2007-12-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson

If you tell what you want to achieve, it's much easier to
provide a relevant answer. Also, it helps if the example
code you include in your email can be compiled as it is.

However, as far as I can remember, there's no point in
specifying a padding value less than 0. Also, I hope you
have noticed the staff-padding property that tells the
minimum distance to the closest staff line (in contrast
to padding which specifies the minimum distance to
any object).

Finally, please always tell what LilyPond version you
are using. The positioning of objects around staves
has changed dramatically from the latest stable version,
2.10 to the development version 2.11.

   /Mats

Stefan Thomas wrote:


Dear Lilypondusers,
I have a problem with moving the dynamics generally. I dont't
understand why this doesnt make any effect:

dynamik = { \override DynamicLineSpanner #'padding = #-2.0 \override
DynamicText #'padding =#2.1 
s1\f  s1*10 s1\setTextCresc s1*3 s1\ff}


\score { 
<< 
\new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "Primorechts" \relative c'' {

\Primorechts }
   \context Staff = "Primorechts" \dynamik
\new Staff = "Primolinks" \Primolinks >>
\new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "Secondorechts" \Secondorechts
\context Staff = "Secondorechts" \dynamik
   \new Staff = "Secondolinks"
\Secondolinks  >>
 


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moving dynamics

2007-12-16 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Lilypondusers,
I have a problem with moving the dynamics generally. I dont't
understand why this doesnt make any effect:

dynamik = { \override DynamicLineSpanner #'padding = #-2.0 \override
DynamicText #'padding =#2.1
s1\f  s1*10 s1\setTextCresc s1*3 s1\ff}

\score {
<<
\new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "Primorechts" \relative c'' {
\Primorechts }
\context Staff = "Primorechts" \dynamik
\new Staff = "Primolinks" \Primolinks >>
\new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "Secondorechts" \Secondorechts
\context Staff = "Secondorechts" \dynamik
\new Staff = "Secondolinks"
\Secondolinks  >>
>>
}
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RE: VoltaBracket padding

2007-12-16 Thread Trevor Daniels

The placement of outside-staff objects has been reworked in
2.11.  I see no collision in 2.11.34.  I recommend an
upgrade to the latest 2.11 version.

Trevor D

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Tiago Morin
> Sent: 16 December 2007 14:30
> To: Lilypondusers
> Subject: VoltaBracket padding
>
>
> Hi lilyponders
>
> I don't know why the voltabracket is printed on
> the text. Anyway the
> manual padding is not working.
> \version "2.10.33"
> \paper {
>   raggedright = ##f
> }
> \score{
>
> \new Staff{
> c'4 c' c' c'
> \override VoltaBracket #'padding = #5
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
> 2^\markup{\center-align {\italic
> I}}^\markup{\center-align {\smaller 6}} e''8.[ f''16]
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
> }}
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thank you
>
> Tiago
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Re: Lilypond on Leopard - who has it working?

2007-12-16 Thread Benjamin Esham
Sven Axelsson wrote:

> OK, I know. The standard reply to the Lilypond vs. Lopard question is
> "compile it yourself". I could do that, but I believe it is a bit more
> complicated than just
> 
> make
> sudo make install
> 
> so it wold be easier if someone who has done this already could make an
> unofficial build available. Anyone? Please, pretty please? Just the
> command line stuff is fine, no need for any GUI crud.

If you happen to have Fink installed, you can install Lilypond through Fink.
The current versions supported are 2.10.29 and 2.11.31, although I've heard
that you can get the latest versions if you tweak Fink's .info files.

I realize this isn't exactly what you asked for, but if you have Fink
installed it is probably the easiest way.  It probably isn't worth it to
install Fink just for this purpose unless you're really having trouble
getting Lilypond working any other way.  I guess I could just send you my
binaries, but I don't have a very good idea of exactly which files you would
need, and there would probably be library issues at some point.

HTH,
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VoltaBracket padding

2007-12-16 Thread Tiago Morin
Hi lilyponders

I don't know why the voltabracket is printed on the text. Anyway the
manual padding is not working.
\version "2.10.33"
\paper {
  raggedright = ##f
}
\score{

\new Staff{
c'4 c' c' c'
\override VoltaBracket #'padding = #5
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
2^\markup{\center-align {\italic
I}}^\markup{\center-align {\smaller 6}} e''8.[ f''16]
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
}}

any ideas?

Thank you

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textspanner too short

2007-12-16 Thread Tiago Morin
Hi lilyponders

I'm having some trouble with the textspanner line. In the following example:

\version "2.10.33"
\paper {
  raggedright = ##f
}
\score{

\new Staff{

<<{e''8.[ c''16] b'8.[ c''16]
\once \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'("III" . "")
\once \override TextSpanner #'direction = #1
\once \override TextSpanner #'style = #'line
\once \override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(0 . 0.5)
\once \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #'()
d''8.[\startTextSpan e''16]\stopTextSpan }\\{g2 4 }>>
s4 s s s s s s s s s s
}}

the spanner line is not printed, still I think there is some space
left to print it. It seems to me that the text is printed far to right
related to the note head it refers.

Is there a way to offset left the text so more space is left; or
center the text to the notehead; or reduce the gap between the text
and the line?

Thank you

Tiago


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Lilypond on Leopard - who has it working?

2007-12-16 Thread Sven Axelsson
OK, I know. The standard reply to the Lilypond vs. Lopard question is
"compile it yourself". I could do that, but I believe it is a bit more
complicated than just

make
sudo make install

so it wold be easier if someone who has done this already could make
an unofficial build available. Anyone? Please, pretty please? Just the
command line stuff is fine, no need for any GUI crud.

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Re: Trouble running LilyPond under OS X (10.5.1 aka Leopard)

2007-12-16 Thread Hans Aberg

On 16 Dec 2007, at 10:12, Graham Percival wrote:


See the report on the bug list; I believe it's number 504 or 506.


One can use the link
  http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=504
But I recommend being on the Bug-LilyPond list anyway.

  Hans Åberg




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RE: lyrics - formatting single words?

2007-12-16 Thread Trevor Daniels

Arne

Simply enclose the word with \markup { \italic word }, or
for more than one words with \markup { \italic { more than
one word }}. eg

 ... I'm so \markup { \italic lonesome } boo boo boo \markup
{ \italic { I could cry }} ... "


Trevor D

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>
>
> hello all,
>
> how can I apply an italic font-face to single
> words within a lyric context,
> like
> " ... I'm so lonesome boo boo boo I could cry ... "
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lyrics - formatting single words♦

2007-12-16 Thread Arne Peters

hello all,

how can I apply an italic font-face to single words within a lyric context,
like
" ... I'm so lonesome boo boo boo I could cry ... "
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Re: Trouble running LilyPond under OS X (10.5.1 aka Leopard)

2007-12-16 Thread Graham Percival
See the report on the bug list; I believe it's number 504 or 506.

Cheers,
- Graham

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:12:38 + (UTC)
Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have downloaded both LilyPond v2.10.33-1 and v2.11.36-1 and 
> have tried running them without success under Leopard (10.5.1).
> 
> When launching LilyPond for the first time, the application loads 
> and the default introduction page is displayed. However, the only 
> menu item is "LilyPond" yet there are no sub-menu items to be 
> found. I must perform a "Force Quit" in order to terminate LilyPond.
> 
> If anyone has any experience running LilyPond under Leopard, 
> I'd be interested in hearing about it.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Trouble running LilyPond under OS X (10.5.1 aka Leopard)

2007-12-16 Thread Caine
I have downloaded both LilyPond v2.10.33-1 and v2.11.36-1 and 
have tried running them without success under Leopard (10.5.1).

When launching LilyPond for the first time, the application loads 
and the default introduction page is displayed. However, the only 
menu item is "LilyPond" yet there are no sub-menu items to be 
found. I must perform a "Force Quit" in order to terminate LilyPond.

If anyone has any experience running LilyPond under Leopard, 
I'd be interested in hearing about it.

Thank you.

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