Polyphonic problem...
Hello,
I've got a problem with this little piece of code, can someone explain where
it comes from?
The code seems a bit complex for that example but I'm transcribing a larger
piece and I'm calling the different movements like that, so that's in the
seventh (variation of Bach's Dmin Ciaccona) the pdf is fine but the console
tells me programming error: cruelty to springs continuing, cross fingers I
comment another version of each voice and that's the single that gave me
that result :
%%%
\version 2.11.36
first = \relative c'
{
f'8 s d s s s %1.1
%f'8 f d d d d%1.2
}
second = \relative c'
{
d'16 cis d a f e f d bes g' d' bes' %2.1
%d16 cis d a f e f d bes g' d' bes' %2.2
}
seven = {
{ \first} \\
{ \second }
}
\score {
\new Staff {\time 3/4
\seven} }
%%
1.2/2.1 works fine, 1.1/2.2 too and the weirdest : 1.1+1.2/2.1 works without
probleme... strange... and 1.1+1.2/2.1+2.2 fails... I can't understand why.
Note that this code works too :
%%%
\version 2.11.37
first = \relative c'
{f'8 s d s s s}
second = \relative c'
{d'16 cis d a f e f d bes g' d' bes'}
\score {
\new Staff {\time 3/4
{\first} \\
{\second}
}
%%%
Regards
Matth
PS I just tried with the 2.11.37 : same problem, with 2.10 it works fine
maybe it's close to the 540 issue.
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working with two different lilypond versions
Hello, I'd like to know what is the way to invoke a specific lilypond version? I saw the command LILYPOND_DATADIR to set this up ( for me it would be /usr/share/lilypond/2.11.37 or 2.10.33) I don't know how to do that and maybe there's an easier way. To be more precise, I'm under Gentoo and put these two versions in two different slots but there's nothing like gcc-config : lilypond-config and it seems that I can't directly invoke a specific version... Regards Matth -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/working-with-two-different-lilypond-versions-tp14638744p14638744.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Polyphonic problem...
you forgot to close the with in the
seven = {
{ \first} \\
{ \second }
block
best
ole
Am 05.01.2008 um 22:30 schrieb milarepa7:
Hello,
I've got a problem with this little piece of code, can someone
explain where
it comes from?
The code seems a bit complex for that example but I'm transcribing
a larger
piece and I'm calling the different movements like that, so that's
in the
seventh (variation of Bach's Dmin Ciaccona) the pdf is fine but the
console
tells me programming error: cruelty to springs continuing, cross
fingers I
comment another version of each voice and that's the single that
gave me
that result :
%%%
\version 2.11.36
first = \relative c'
{
f'8 s d s s s %1.1
%f'8 f d d d d%1.2
}
second = \relative c'
{
d'16 cis d a f e f d bes g' d' bes' %2.1
%d16 cis d a f e f d bes g' d' bes' %2.2
}
seven = {
{ \first} \\
{ \second }
}
\score {
\new Staff {\time 3/4
\seven} }
%%
1.2/2.1 works fine, 1.1/2.2 too and the weirdest : 1.1+1.2/2.1
works without
probleme... strange... and 1.1+1.2/2.1+2.2 fails... I can't
understand why.
Regards
Matth
PS I just tried with the 2.11.37 : same problem, with 2.10 it works
fine
maybe it's close to the 540 issue.
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Re: Polyphonic problem...
Ole Schmidt wrote:
you forgot to close the with in the
seven = {
{ \first} \\
{ \second }
block
Thanks but maybe it was an error when I copied the code to insert it in the
message, if I forget that it won't be compiled at all. I just extracted from
the whole movement the single measure wich generates the error.
Thanks for your interest
Matth
NB : there's the last bracket missing in the second exemple.
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Re: Polyphonic problem...
Gilles THIBAULT wrote: The code you have given compiles without any errors in version 2.11.34. Perhaps a 2.11.36 bugs ? Yes maybe, I emerged the 2.11.37 yesterday and the bug (now I'm sure that we can call it like this) is still there... That's why I posted to know how I can use different versions on the same system but that's another story... Thanks / merci -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Polyphonic-problem...-tp14615208p14640669.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Polyphonic problem...
sorry,
my fault, I did not really understand what your problem was...
ole
Ole Schmidt wrote:
you forgot to close the with in the
seven = {
{ \first} \\
{ \second }
block
Thanks but maybe it was an error when I copied the code to insert
it in the
message, if I forget that it won't be compiled at all. I just
extracted from
the whole movement the single measure wich generates the error.
Thanks for your interest
Matth
NB : there's the last bracket missing in the second exemple.
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Re: Polyphonic problem...
On Jan 5, 2008, at 5:24 PM, milarepa7 wrote: Gilles THIBAULT wrote: The code you have given compiles without any errors in version 2.11.34. Perhaps a 2.11.36 bugs ? Yes maybe, I emerged the 2.11.37 yesterday and the bug (now I'm sure that we can call it like this) is still there... That's why I posted to know how I can use different versions on the same system but that's another story... Thanks / merci Your code compiles on 2.11.37 without errors here (Mac PPC). Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Halving the duration of every note
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Re: Polyphonic problem...
Am Samstag, 5. Januar 2008 schrieb milarepa7: Hello, I've got a problem with this little piece of code, can someone explain where it comes from? The code seems a bit complex for that example but I'm transcribing a larger piece and I'm calling the different movements like that, so that's in the seventh (variation of Bach's Dmin Ciaccona) the pdf is fine but the console tells me programming error: cruelty to springs continuing, cross fingers I can't reproduce the problem with your example, but running lilypond on my 116-page score of Schubert's Stabat Mater also causes dozens of these cruelty to springs messages... So, yes, I can confirm these strange warnings, but i have not yet found any reason for them. Cheers, Reinhold PS: I also get some other strange warnings (Notice the warning about the beginning of the crescendo -- without any line number!!! -- , although strangely every \, /, \cr and \decr in the score is really matched by exactly \! and vice versa, just as every \dim is matched by one \enddim): Interpretation der Musik...[8][16] Warnung: Anfang des (De-) Crescendos kann nicht gefunden werden[24][32][32] Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente... Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden... Musik wird auf 7 oder 8 Seiten angepasst... Drawing systems... Warnung: Programmierfehler: bounds of this piece aren't breakable. Warnung: Programmierfehler: bounds of this piece aren't breakable. Programmierfehler: system with empty extent Programmierfehler: system with empty extent Programmierfehler: cruelty to springs Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: cruelty to springs Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: cruelty to springs Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: Improbable offset for stencil: nan staff space Setting to zero. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: Improbable offset for stencil: nan staff space Setting to zero. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Layout nach »Schubert_StabatMater_D383_FagI.ps« ausgeben... Konvertierung nach »Schubert_StabatMater_D383_FagI.pdf«... -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung Jung-Wien, http://www.jung-wien.at/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Filling the page
Isn't the right command something like
\paper {
raggedbottom = ##t
raggedbottomlast = ##t
}
?
Cheers,
- Graham
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:08:16 -0500
Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have consulted section 5.5.1 Vertical spacing inside a system in
the manual for Lilypond 2.11.
I am preparing to print orchestral part. A typical part fills
approximately 1.6 to 1.75 pages. I want to increase the vertical
spacing to fill out two pages evenly.
I attempted to use the code provided in the manual:
\new Score \with
{
\override VerticalAlignment #'max-stretch =
#ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch
}
I could not get this code to work or change the vertical spacing of
the staves in any way.
(1) I don't understand \new Score. I always use \score. Are they
different? How so?
(2) I don't understand \with { some Lilypond code }. I typically
insert overrides in the music or in contexts (see below).
(3) I don't understand #ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch.
I do read the manual (but can miss things). I have read 6.1.4 without
comprehension.
I do search the archives (but can miss things).
I am stymied.
Much obliged for any help.
Jeremiah
Here's my code for the part. \tuba has 173 measures of music.
\score {
\new Staff \keepWithTag #'part \tuba
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber #'padding
= #'2.3 \override BarNumber #'direction = #DOWN
\override BarNumber
#'font-size = #2 \override BarNumber #'break-visibility =
##end-of-line-invisible
} % closes context
\context {
\Staff
\override TimeSignature
#'style = #'numbered } % closes context
} % closes layout
} % closes score
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Filling the page
I have consulted section 5.5.1 Vertical spacing inside a system in
the manual for Lilypond 2.11.
I am preparing to print orchestral part. A typical part fills
approximately 1.6 to 1.75 pages. I want to increase the vertical
spacing to fill out two pages evenly.
I attempted to use the code provided in the manual:
\new Score \with
{
\override VerticalAlignment #'max-stretch =
#ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch
}
I could not get this code to work or change the vertical spacing of the
staves in any way.
(1) I don't understand \new Score. I always use \score. Are they
different? How so?
(2) I don't understand \with { some Lilypond code }. I typically insert
overrides in the music or in contexts (see below).
(3) I don't understand #ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch.
I do read the manual (but can miss things). I have read 6.1.4 without
comprehension.
I do search the archives (but can miss things).
I am stymied.
Much obliged for any help.
Jeremiah
Here's my code for the part. \tuba has 173 measures of music.
\score {
\new Staff \keepWithTag #'part \tuba
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber #'padding = #'2.3
\override BarNumber #'direction = #DOWN
\override BarNumber #'font-size = #2
\override BarNumber #'break-visibility
= #end-of-line-invisible
} % closes context
\context {
\Staff
\override TimeSignature #'style =
#'numbered
} % closes context
} % closes layout
} % closes score
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Re: Filling the page
Graham,
Thanks for your reply:
On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
Isn't the right command something like
\paper {
raggedbottom = ##t
raggedbottomlast = ##t
}
I think this is the opposite of what I want? hmmm... I want both pages
of the part to be filled to the bottom (that is, a non-ragged bottom).
Here's what I got:
X X
X X
X X
X
X
X
X
Here's what I want:
X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X X X X X X X X X X X
Incidentally, I know that you are easing out of Lilypond development. I
have learned a great deal from your detailed and extensive postings in
the archive. Thank you. And, to whatever extent you have been in
involved in the creation of version 2.11 and the much improved
documentation. Thank you, thank you!
Jeremiah
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Re: Filling the page
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:45:02 -0500
Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Graham,
Thanks for your reply:
On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
Isn't the right command something like
\paper {
raggedbottom = ##t
raggedbottomlast = ##t
}
I think this is the opposite of what I want? hmmm... I want both
pages of the part to be filled to the bottom (that is, a non-ragged
bottom). Here's what I got:
Umm, yes. That should be ##f for false, not ##t for true. I was
in the middle of dinner, so I wasn't really concentrating.
Cheers,
- Graham
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RE: Force number of bars per line
Thanks Trevor, it works! Mike Trevor Daniels wrote: Look up \break and \noBreak in the docs (eg at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Line-brea ks#Line-breaks ). These allow you to control linebreaking manually. If they don't help, make sure you have no notes extending beyond the end of bars - look up barcheck to help (see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bar-and-bar-number -checks#Bar-and-bar-number-checks ). If this doesn't help please post your input. Trevor D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Nelson Sent: 05 January 2008 06:59 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Force number of bars per line I'm notating a piece of music, and I'm getting 2, 3, and 4 bars on different lines. But the original hardcopy I'm transcribing has exactly 3 on all lines, and it definitely looks better. I read the section on horizontal spacing, but I don't want to screw around with ad hoc stretching, obviously. Is there any way I can control it at the bar level for the whole piece? I tried to do my homework, but couldn't find anything about it. Thanks, Mike Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Volunteering with LilyPond
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Re: Filling the page
Op zondag 6 januari 2008, schreef Reilly:
I want to increase the vertical
spacing to fill out two pages evenly.
Try:
\paper {
ragged-last-bottom = ##f
}
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Re: Leaving: I can't help
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:50:01 -0500 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a professional composer. I use Lilypond (nearly) every day. I don't actively (i.e., visibly) contribute to Lilypond code or documentation... and may not in the near future, despite attempts to guilt me into doing so. ;-) You know my instant hostile reaction to anybody making demands of lilypond volunteers. And I am quite aware that I'm being hypocritical in trying to guilt advanced users into contributing to the docs. So it is with the greatest of reluctance that I continue such attempts. We currently have *zero* active helpers in GDP who are working on the contents of the docs. The presentation is coming along nicely. We have people fixing the English grammar, rearranging the material so that things are easier to find, etc. But the actual contents? Nope. I've had questions from GDP helpers about various parts of the docs, and my reply has almost always been I don't know, try experimenting or asking on the mailist. Sometimes they do so, and sometimes they get an answer. Sometimes they don't, so we need to guess. On some occasions, I've ended up saying well, I don't know whether it's foo or bar. Let's just stick foo in the docs, and if it's wrong, somebody will complain about it. Making wild guesses and hoping for future complaints is not the ideal way to write docs. It sucks for users who encounter these problems in the future. It sucks for doc writers, because they feel stupid and useless. It sucks for me, because I feel that I'm letting down the volunteers I'm supposed to be supporting. Concrete example? Well, there's falls and doits in Expressive marks. I have no clue what these are. Something for jazz singers? Saxophonists? Maybe they're used in Baroque notation? Or a special mark for accordion players? Is the current doc section acceptable? I have no clue. Judging from the picture and the input, \bendAfter does *something*. But I don't know what it's doing, nor what else the doc should say here. Maybe people who use \bendAfter would also want a link to the ancient notation articulations? Or the vocal aligning syllabels ? I have no clue. In a few months, if GDP is still progressing, we'll be tackling NR 2 specific notation. These problems will be even worse then. I honestly think that I've /never/ seen any classical guitar sheet music. How am I supposed to supervise work on this section? I can check submissions for accordance to the doc policy, but I certainly can't judge the *contents* of those docs. Now what about the poor GDP helper who gets assigned work on Guitar music? I don't think that any of the current helpers play guitar, so they'll have the same problems that I face. (nothing personal against guitars... I know virtually nothing about everything else in NR 2, including vocal music) Many of the volunteers begin their emails saying I know almost nothing about music notation, but I'm willing to help if you think I can without embarassing myself. I am completely baffled about all these volunteers -- I mean, I'm incredibly happy about them, but baffled nevertheless. Why do so many people want to help after reading nothing more than the lilypond tutorial? And conversely, why is it that nobody who actually *is* familiar with music notation and lilypond volunteers? If I had an advanced lilypond user offer to help, I wouldn't ask them to work on the texinfo files directly (unless they particularly wanted to). I just want somebody who can review the material in detail, answer questions from other helpers, etc. Maybe create a few small lilypond examples to replace (or add to) existing examples. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
markup at the left of multimeasure rests
This subject used to be documented but doesn't seem to be in the 2.11.37
doc's. It also doesn't seem to work as it did at one time
This is from the 2.4 manual which resulted from my Googling:
If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest,
attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e.
s1*0^Allegro
R1*4
Attached is an example which doesn't work that way. It centers the test as
MultiMeasureRestText
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals-big-page#MultiMeasureRestText
would be expected to do.
Paul Scott
\version 2.11.37
\score {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\new Staff
{
c'1
s4*0^Text
R1*20
c'1
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