Re: Win98 SE?
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2006-03/msg00301.html However, you may still want to give it a try. If you're lucky it works just fine. /Mats Norman Drucker wrote: I'm a newbie to things Gnu and would like to know whether trying to install and use Lilypond on my Win98 SE system is going to be impossible or a major headache. I've reviewed the forum archive and see that people have had problems with Win98 in the past, but being a newbie, I don't even understand what most of those problems were, and don't get a sense of whether ways have by now been found to surmount them in the latest version of the software. Can anyone please advise me whether it really is feasible for a non-geek to try to use lilypond under Win 98 SE, and how I might fix the problems that I'm most likely to run into. Thanks Norm Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond: Newsgroup?
Huh, http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/last=/force_load=t Stefan Slapeta wrote: I can't see it making a huge difference. If you're interested, I believe that gmane supplies NNTP. I only spent 30 seconds looking at their site, so I'm not totally certain though. I do - searching in old threads is a _LOT_ easier with a newsgroup client than via http archive! I've been working for with gmane for some years in boost C++ newsgroups and I've also been moderator there ... I didn't have any negative experience so far. The setup of a new group is very easy and straightforward. More difficult is the migration of the previous mailings. Shall I drop Lars a note? Stefan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening Lilypond
LilyPond is not a program like the ones you are used to: you do not have to use your mouse to create a score, but *only* your keyboard! There are no buttons to click on, no menus, nothing. First create a text file with some special code in it; then LilyPond will read it and convert it into a beautiful score. You just have to save your file with the .ly extension, and then just double click on it. Then you will see that a PDF file appears next to it. For example, just write: { a b c d } in a file with your notepad. Save your file on your Desktop, as my_first_score.ly. Then Double-click on it. That's it. If you need some additional help, please, please first read the tutorial -- as Graham told you. Then we'll be ready to help you. (If you really want to learn how to use LilyPond, you might need a more convenient editor than the notepad; for example, try jEdit ( www.jedit.org -- download the development version), with its special LilyPondTool plugin that is very handy (you have to download it in the plugin manager). Cheers, Valentin 2008/1/11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Help! I have apparently successfully downloaded Lilypond to my Windows XP PC, but whenever I double click on the desktop icon all I get is the silly Let's take it for a test drive window. I'd really like to use your program; and feel silly asking How do I turn the darn thing on? I've tried rebooting the computer; didn't help. -Fencinflyer. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
pitchedTrill with a chord?
Hello everybody, just a small question that occured to me (as the new bugmeister, I don't want to fill a feature request without discussing it first :) In the following snippet, the trill can be interpreted as a chord-trill; however, the pitchedTrill indication prints only one note: \relative c'' { \grace f a8 \pitchedTrill e gis2. \startTrillSpan f a e gis4 \stopTrillSpan } Bug or missing feature? Any workaround (other than polyphonic)? Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
new LilyPond based project
This is an announcement about new LilyPond based project. http://bopland.org The BopLand.org project is FREE knowledge database for improvising musician. The database contains hundreds of beautiful melodic patterns played by outstanding jazz musicians like Bill Evans, Clifford Brown, Gerry Mulligan and others. All licks present in the database were carefully transcribed and examined to contain no errors. More about the project: http://bopland.org/about.html For quick start with BopLand.org search engine use the links below: http://bopland.org/find-lick.html?time=4/4changes=|%20Dm7%20|%20G7%20|%20Cmajpage=1licks_per_page=10 http://bopland.org/find-lick.html?time=4/4changes=Ebmpage=1licks_per_page=10 http://bopland.org/find-lick.html?time=4%2F4changes=Dm+Bm7-5+%7C+E7+A7+%7Csearch.x=0search.y=0search=Findpage=1licks_per_page=10 The BopLand.org syntax used for adding new licks slightly differs from LilyPond's one. However all patterns found in the database come along with their source code, moreover notations used at BopLand.org closely match hand-written notaions, so adding new lick won't be a headache. Documentaion is available at http://bopland.org/bopland-format.html To contribute a lick or test the BopLand.org engine check the following link: http://bopland.org/add-lick.html The project is currently in beta version. Any comments, suggestions, and bug reports are highly appreciated at http://bopland.org/feedback.html Sincerely Yours, BopLand.org Team. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new LilyPond based project
BopLand.org wrote: This is an announcement about new LilyPond based project. http://bopland.org The BopLand.org project is FREE knowledge database for improvising musician. The database contains hundreds of beautiful melodic patterns played by outstanding jazz musicians like Bill Evans, Clifford Brown, Gerry Mulligan and others. All licks present in the database were carefully transcribed and examined to contain no errors. I just visited the site and it would seem the search mechanism is somewhat awkward. One should be able to click to the final result. Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening Lilypond
Valentin said: (If you really want to learn how to use LilyPond, you might need a more convenient editor than the notepad; for example, try jEdit ( www.jedit.org -- download the development version), with its special LilyPondTool plugin that is very handy (you have to download it in the plugin manager). I recommend NOT using the latest version of jEdit (4.3pre12) as I found it didn't play well with LilyPondTool. Go get jEdit 4.3pre9 and I believe you'll be OK. I agree that LilyPondTool is very helpful. Good luck! Tim Reeves___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
manual staff switch
dear all, I have a score like the excerpt below and want to switch the last note of the second staff (staffClassicalGuitarII) to the first staff. Is it possible to use \change Staff = command in such a construction? And if yes what would be the right syntax? Unfortunatly I do not understand once again how to apply the information from the manual to my example... thanks for help ole %%% \version 2.11.36 staffClassicalGuitar = \include GitarreEins.ly staffClassicalGuitarII = \include GitarreZwei.ly \score { \new StaffGroup { \set StaffGroup.instrumentName=Solo \set StaffGroup.shortInstrumentName = solo \staffClassicalGuitar \staffClassicalGuitarII } %%% ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
Le 11 janv. 08 à 22:31, Alasdair McAndrew a écrit : I am using lilypond-book (with LaTeX) to collect several different lilypond files into one nice document - with title page, table of contents, and an introduction. However, the music never comes out properly on the page. Using lilypond on a single file, the music is nicely laid out, appropriate space between the systems, and the first system (there are only two staves - it's a collection of duets) indented for the instrument names. However, the same music in lilypond-book comes out either moved partly off the page, or on the page but with huge margins - and the first system not indented, but with the instrument names set to its left. (This accounts for the huge margin - there is white space beneath the instrument names for the rest of the page). Also, the systems are more crowded vertically then they are in plain lilypond. Clearly I need to do some fiddling to make lilypond's page formatter, and LaTeX's page formatter, go well together. Can anybody give me some advice on this? The vertical layout cannot be as finely tuned using lilypond-book and LaTeX as it can be using LilyPond only. Indeed, in the first case, LilyPond layout engine computes the line breaks, and LaTeX takes care of filling the pages. Using LilyPond only, the layout engine can compute line breaks together with page breaks, and space nicely the systems. You may get rid off LaTeX and use LilyPond only, for instance with the help of this titling stylesheet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=368 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:45:45PM +0100, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: You may get rid off LaTeX and use LilyPond only, for instance with the Can you also use Lily to produce graphics (ps, eps, pdf, ...) of the music and then \include them in Latex ? Perhaps this is not elegant. -- Thanks Joe Mc Cool Snark, currently LEYC 028 37548074, 07802572441 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
I am using lilypond-book (with LaTeX) to collect several different lilypond files into one nice document - with title page, table of contents, and an introduction. However, the music never comes out properly on the page. Using lilypond on a single file, the music is nicely laid out, appropriate space between the systems, and the first system (there are only two staves - it's a collection of duets) indented for the instrument names. However, the same music in lilypond-book comes out either moved partly off the page, or on the page but with huge margins - and the first system not indented, but with the instrument names set to its left. (This accounts for the huge margin - there is white space beneath the instrument names for the rest of the page). Also, the systems are more crowded vertically then they are in plain lilypond. Clearly I need to do some fiddling to make lilypond's page formatter, and LaTeX's page formatter, go well together. Can anybody give me some advice on this? Thanks very much, Alasdair ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
composition title on every page except the first
Hello, I am new to LilyPond (AWESOME program, by the way!) and I have some questions about headers. I want to have the title of a composition appear at the top of every page (in a small font). I found this message that explains how to do this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00638.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-02/msg00638.html However, I don't want the title to appear on the first page, where the normal title appears in the header already. Is there any way to make a header appear only on pages after the first? Also, I want to place the page number on the left side of the header on every page, but I want to center the title. Currently I can do this with the \hspace command. For example: \paper { oddHeaderMarkup = \markup { \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string \hspace #40 % place enough space between the page number and the title so that the title is centered \fromproperty #'header:title } evenHeaderMarkup = \markup { \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string \hspace #40 \fromproperty #'header:title } } But this way I have to experiment for a while to see what number I should use with \hspace to center the title. Is there a better way to do this? And another thing, I didn't put and \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first (which were included in the message I linked to) in there because they don't make any difference in the output. Should I use these? Thank you! Felipe -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/composition-title-on-every-page-except-the-first-tp14764020p14764020.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
2008/1/11, Alasdair McAndrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks - your code may do the job! Will it work with version 2.10.33? I guess what would be nice would be for a page of lilypond to be pasted onto a blank LaTeX page by lilypond-book, but as you say LaTeX does the page filling. Unfortunately this great code only works with the latest development versions (say, 2.11.25 and greater) -- which is why I had to comment the whole code when I posted the snippet (the LSR doesn't support these features yet). Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Mc Cool wrote: Can you also use Lily to produce graphics (ps, eps, pdf, ...) of the music and then \include them in Latex ? In essence, this is what lilypond-book does when operating on a LaTeX document; it determines the LaTeX line width, generates music to the appropriate specifications, and writes a new LaTeX file with the appropriate \include statements. - -- Nicholas Haggin A.M.D.G. Find my public keys at my website: http://nhaggin.freeshell.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFHh+9fYbuXiaDnyW4RAk1NAJwMIaBdZ8bh+/5tq9RtcNyW8udc4gCfZ6SC cIfiULf5qO3pUjopp1EAke8= =D44U -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond-book and LaTeX; a few issues
Thanks - your code may do the job! Will it work with version 2.10.33? I guess what would be nice would be for a page of lilypond to be pasted onto a blank LaTeX page by lilypond-book, but as you say LaTeX does the page filling. -Alasdair On Jan 12, 2008 8:45 AM, Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 11 janv. 08 à 22:31, Alasdair McAndrew a écrit : I am using lilypond-book (with LaTeX) to collect several different lilypond files into one nice document - with title page, table of contents, and an introduction. However, the music never comes out properly on the page. Using lilypond on a single file, the music is nicely laid out, appropriate space between the systems, and the first system (there are only two staves - it's a collection of duets) indented for the instrument names. However, the same music in lilypond-book comes out either moved partly off the page, or on the page but with huge margins - and the first system not indented, but with the instrument names set to its left. (This accounts for the huge margin - there is white space beneath the instrument names for the rest of the page). Also, the systems are more crowded vertically then they are in plain lilypond. Clearly I need to do some fiddling to make lilypond's page formatter, and LaTeX's page formatter, go well together. Can anybody give me some advice on this? The vertical layout cannot be as finely tuned using lilypond-book and LaTeX as it can be using LilyPond only. Indeed, in the first case, LilyPond layout engine computes the line breaks, and LaTeX takes care of filling the pages. Using LilyPond only, the layout engine can compute line breaks together with page breaks, and space nicely the systems. You may get rid off LaTeX and use LilyPond only, for instance with the help of this titling stylesheet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=368 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: manual staff switch
Hello, Maybe there's another way to do but I would edit the GitarreZwei.ly like that : % staffClassicalGuitar = {c'4 c' c' c'} staffClassicalGuitarII = {g'4 g' g' \change Staff =one g'} \score { \new StaffGroup { \set StaffGroup.instrumentName=Solo \set StaffGroup.shortInstrumentName = solo \new Staff =one \staffClassicalGuitar \new Staff \staffClassicalGuitarII note that you have to give a name to the first staff to be able to call it after, example with the name one : \new Staff =one \staffClassicalGuitar. I hope it can help you Regards. Matth -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/manual-staff-switch-tp14765842p14767443.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond-book and searchable pdf:s
Hi! This is not a question, rather I would like to just present some things I've come across the last days. Maybe this is old knowledge to you, and in that case, please ignore this mail. Still, I was not able to find these my conclusions in the archives, so hopefully it may be of some use for someone! I'm typesetting a book with lilypond and LaTeX, using lilypond-book to put it all together. However the text in the resulting pdf file is not searchable or copyable by Acrobat or Preview.app. After many hours of error checking, I found out what is causing my problems and some workarounds. The problem seems to be that when the fonts are encoded with T1 encoding in LaTeX, the resulting pdf does not have a correct character mapping, and thus can not extract any text. As several people earlier have pointed out, there are some workarounds: 1) Use the CMAP package for LaTeX 2) Use a standard postscript font, like times 3) Use the default OT1 font encoding instead of T1 The CMAP package works perfectly and magically takes care of everything. However, it only works with pdflatex and not with dvips, which is a problem when I'm using lilypond-book (since I can't make pdflatex work with my generated tex files from lilypond-book, I have to use dvips) Using times instead of the CM fonts work - but I don't want times! Using OT1 font encoding has two problems: a minor problem is that the pdf renders a bit ugly on-screen in Acrobat, compared to when using T1 fonts. Worse is that the OT1 fonts only contain a basic extended ASCII set of glyphs, which means that many non-english characters are missing! Conclusion: * I can have a searchable pdf, but in that case I have to sacrifice either the font or the encoding (meaning all non-english chars), OR * I can have a complete, perfectly looking pdf, which is not searchable, OR * I can get it all if I use the cmap package for LaTeX. But then I have to use pdflatex instead of dvips, which doesn't work with lilypond-book! As far as I can tell, there is no solution to this problem. HOWEVER: Making cmap work with dvips is on the TODO for cmap. I emailed the creator of the cmap package, and he says that he think[s] it is possible to make it work with dvips, but it needs some hacking and time. He continues unfortunately i currently don't have time for this. if you can help, or know someone who is interested in this, please let me know. I don't have enough skills for such a task, but maybe someone on this list has? And I want to ask the LilyPond team: can this be a candidate for sponsoring, even though it is not really a part of lilypond itself? Best regards Erik Ronström __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: special characters in markup
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/1/11, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's a good answer which I can use This is not really needed anymore, as LilyPond can support all UTF-8 characters natively. I was actually thinking about normal characters like '' which have another syntactical meaning in Lily. Actually, the double quote is the only character you need to 'escape', by preceding it with a backslash: \markup This 'is' #a \quoted sentence\ \with $pecial {chars} As you can see, the #, { or \ characters are otherwise looking good. This requires that the text be enclosed in quotes (Thanks to Geoff Horton). This works: \markup{ some \quoted text\ } This doesn't: \markup{ some \quoted text\ } Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user