date:20080709



Am 09.07.2008 um 09:00 schrieb hhpmusic:


Hi,
I downloaded 2.11.51, and there are two problems:
1) some syntaxes are changed such as \sustainOn and \sustainOff. I  
have no time to re-read the manuals, but the news page has no  
indication of it at the top. So \setTextCresc and \setHairpinCresc  
are also obsolete. Could someone provide a list of the syntax changes?


I was really upset by all of the changes to predefined commands, but  
then I thought about it and realised, okay, convert-ly works the files  
I have, and maybe one day there will be a changelog with the changes  
to the predefined commands, until then, I can use the search function  
in my browser to find out how to write something, but ultimately, I  
don't really have a say in the matter. I'm not developing the  
software, and it's still amazingly better than any of the other  
options. So, we can move on, or not upgrade.



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Arbitrary changes?


I spoke too soon, I think. Would this work as an acceptable changelog?
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-06/msg00266.html


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Re: suggestion about web page examples and essay

2008-07-09 Thread Libero Mureddu

Hi Graham,
I'll start that in september, so let's speak about the subject after
the GDP things.
Ciao
Libero

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:55:10 +0200
 Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Of course I'm not just trowing a stone here and hiding my hand here
 (italian motto... :-), that means that I'm ready to take the time and
 effort to work on the points I suggested (clearly with the help of
 others), if there's an interest!

 Time and effort are the big issues.  If you're willing to
 undertake this by yourself, I'll supervise you and help with
 some technical details.  We'll need to change a few things in the
 way we build lilypond, but I think it would be worth it.

 However, I would like a firm committment from you (and any other
 interested users) that you'd handle all the lilypond code.  Since
 you've just started unfretted-strings.itely, I'd prefer to wait
 until you've finished that task first -- it shouldn't take too
 long.


 (sorry for the delay; this email got hidden in an unused email folder)

 Cheers,
 - Graham




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Re: suggestion about web page examples and essay

2008-07-09 Thread Graham Percival

Ok.  I'll be gone by that time, but I'm sure that we can find
somebody else to supervise this.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:40:51 +0200
Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Graham,
 I'll start that in september, so let's speak about the subject after
 the GDP things.
 Ciao
 Libero
 
 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:55:10 +0200
  Libero Mureddu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Of course I'm not just trowing a stone here and hiding my hand here
  (italian motto... :-), that means that I'm ready to take the time
  and effort to work on the points I suggested (clearly with the
  help of others), if there's an interest!
 
  Time and effort are the big issues.  If you're willing to
  undertake this by yourself, I'll supervise you and help with
  some technical details.  We'll need to change a few things in the
  way we build lilypond, but I think it would be worth it.
 
  However, I would like a firm committment from you (and any other
  interested users) that you'd handle all the lilypond code.  Since
  you've just started unfretted-strings.itely, I'd prefer to wait
  until you've finished that task first -- it shouldn't take too
  long.
 
 
  (sorry for the delay; this email got hidden in an unused email
  folder)
 
  Cheers,
  - Graham
 
 
 
 
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 Vanha Viertotie, 21 as 417
 00350 Helsinki
 Finland
 http://webusers.siba.fi/~limuredd/
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Slur ending repeated

2008-07-09 Thread PortugalG


Hi,

Is there a way that i can create slur ending in repeat volta, without using
cadenza or hidind notes?

Can i create a broken slur or phasing?

Thanks


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Re: Slur ending repeated

2008-07-09 Thread PT.Guitar


Hi, Luc

I tried using de \laissez but it works only with tie notes, i need for
sluring or phasing... It's dificult to find... i saw in foruns people using
a hide notes a cadenza, to make slur ending...





Luc wrote:
 
 
 PortugalG wrote:
 
 Is there a way that i can create slur ending in repeat volta, without
 using cadenza or hidind notes?
 Can i create a broken slur or phasing?
 
 
 does one of these fit?
 { 
   \repeat volta 2 { e 1 ~ }
   \alternative { 
 { e 2 f 4 e \laissezVibrer | } 
 { e 2 \repeatTie f 4 f ~ | }
 }
 f 1
   }
 
 

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Re: need a slur in a alternative repeat

2008-07-09 Thread PT.Guitar


Hi

I have a same problem i made a post.. with no luck

\version 2.11.49

\relative c' {
c4 c c c e e e e f f f f g' f \(e d \break
 \repeat volta 2 { c4\) c c c e e e e f f f f g g g g } \alternative
{ { f e d b } { c c c c } } }

The idea was creating a slur or phasing between \alternative { { f e (d b
???} to the repeat volta 2 wich already have a ending phasing..

i made this by my own use cadenza and unhide notes...

\version 2.11.49

\relative c' {
c4 c c c e e e e f f f f g' f \(e d \break
 \repeat volta 2 { c4\) c c c e e e e f f f f g g g g } \alternative
{ { \cadenzaOn f e (d b \hideNotes c ) } { \cadenzaOff \unHideNotes c c c c
} } }

But i still have a problem i have a big hole space after the B note... is
there a way to move to the right the barline? or is there a better way?


Is there any version of lilypond that have a tutorial about these issue?

THANKS, for supporting.




gerard stouten wrote:
 
 hi there,
 
 i need a slur in a repeat. i can not figure out how to do it, maybe you
 can 
 help me.
 
 (a8) r8 f4 \bar || \mark \default f2 f8(g8) bes8 c8 d2 bes4 f4 c'2 a4 f4
 f2(
 }
 \alternative {{f8) r8 f4} { f8 r4.}}
 
 The last f2 has a slur to the f8 in alternative ending 1. but it should
 also 
 have a slur to the f8 in the second alternative ending, soort of a
 backwards 
 slur.
 
 
 
 Is there a solution for this?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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need help

2008-07-09 Thread Paulo Godinho


Need Help i try forum, etc with no luck

I want to create a slur or phasing in the alternative ending like the 
example:


version 2.11.49

\relative c' {
   c4 c c c e e e e f f f f g' f \(e d \break
\repeat volta 2 { c4\) c c c e e e e f f f f g g g g } 
\alternative { { f e d b } { c c c c } } }



The idea it is creating a *slur* or phasing between \alternative { { f e 
(d b ???} to the repeat volta 2 wich already have a *ending* phasing..


i made this by my own use cadenza and unhide notes...


\version 2.11.49

\relative c' {
   c4 c c c e e e e f f f f g' f \(e d \break
\repeat volta 2 { c4\) c c c e e e e f f f f g g g g } 
\alternative { { \cadenzaOn f e (d b \hideNotes c ) } { \cadenzaOff 
\unHideNotes c c c c } } }




But i still have a problem i have a big hole space after the B note...


Is there any version of lilypond that have a tutorial about these issue?


THANKS, for supporting.

Great program...


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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )



On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote:


Am 07.07.2008 um 00:44 schrieb Eluze Weehaeli:



 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=490
Using http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ you can search - e.g. for upbeat or  
repeat -

the snippet repository but you will not find this snippet
Using Browse you can find it after scrolling through several pages...
What's the problem here?


2008/7/7 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've wondered this for a long time. I've stopped using the lsr  
because of
it. There are people here, kieren, for example who can find  
anything on the
lsr. I can't. I search the lsr by asking here and waiting until  
someone

posts a link.


This is a known problem, and we're all aware of it : there are many
issues with the LSR architecture, its database, its search function,


Guys, please post this kind of problems. There was simply a wrong  
update so that the index wasn't rebuilt since days. So new snippets  
were showing up in the browsing list (because they are picked from the  
database in that case) but not in a search. I know I should check that  
things are fine more frequently, but please post in case of problems.


The architecture works flawlessly, and I don't know of any problem  
with the search function. The problem is the physical system. It is a  
machine that is sometimes updated aggressively (e.g., to experiment  
new software). And there was of course the DB connection bug--but that  
has been fixed (the fix caused this problem, BTW).


Ciao,

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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )


On Jul 9, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote:



Oh, I was just trying to avoid spamming you with reports... :-)



It's OK.


over the past few weeks, here are the few problems I can remember
having (randomly) encountered:
- several problems with the database/Java/Velocity engine/whatever
(errors 505, IIRC)
- sometimes, impossible to get a preview from snippets using the ERW
interface (the preview page is blank)
- search function bugs: for instance,
  -- the name of the tags appeared in the snippets descriptions on
the result page
  -- impossible to locate some snippet by searching terms in their
.ly source code
  -- similarly, the search function doesn't allow for some  
characters such as #

  -- the problem you've just dealt with.



It's OK, but I need replicatable test cases. Like the last you  
mentioned. Something like this snippet, this keyword.


To search for # we need to index it. Presently this is not done. Then  
you just need to escape it with \.


Can you give me a list of the symbols you want to be indexed? Note  
that at that point #UP is a single token, so searching for UP won't  
find UP.


Ciao,

seba




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Re: Arbitrary changes?

2008-07-09 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Why don't you simply look at the convert-ly source code,

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=python/convertrules.py;hb=HEAD

(this URL should be on 1 line)

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:02 AM, James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I spoke too soon, I think. Would this work as an acceptable changelog?
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-06/msg00266.html

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dynamic spanner help

I've not understood this for a while, and I figure I should probably  
ask about it. When I have dynamics in a variable, the text spanner  
shows up and I can't get rid of it.

\version 2.11.51
\layout {
   \context {
  \type Engraver_group
  \name VocalDynamics
  \alias Voice
  \consists Text_engraver
  \consists Dynamic_engraver
  \consists Text_engraver
  \override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
   }
   \context {\Staff \accepts VocalDynamics}
}
Voice = \relative { e1 f g e a g f d }
VoiceDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
   \override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
   \dimTextDim
   s1*3\ s1\!
   \crescTextCresc
   s1*3\ s1\!
   \setHairpinDim
}

\score {
   \new Staff  \VoiceDynamics \Voice
   \layout {}
}

\relative c'' {
   \override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
   \crescTextCresc
   c1\ | d | b | c\!
}


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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )


Hi Sebastiano,


I don't know of any problem with the search function.


I still find it odd -- and a bit disconcerting -- that the page says  
(e.g.) 0-13 of 14 results...  ;-)


Of course, many thanks for your work on the LSR!
Kieren.


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Analysis Brackets with dashed lines

2008-07-09 Thread Hugo Ribeiro

Thanks all who helped me. This is the example of a Bach Invention 
analysed by Kent Kennan. For the brackets I used:


\startGroup \endGroup as normal brackets.
\[ \] as dashed lines in the up part of the staff
\startTextSpan \stopTextSpan as dashed lines in the bottom of the staff

I also copied the arrows from the Flamenco template and used as a markup 
in the lyrics context and in some notes.


I am attaching because it may be of some use for someone in the future...

Hugo


cap10ex13.ly
Description: application/extension-ly
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Frech trills and slurs. A bug?

2008-07-09 Thread Francesco Spiga

I have a problem which was also reported by Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen some 
times ago.


Lilypond places by default articulation symbols below the slurs.
So, if I try to mark a trill by a + (like in ancient French music), 
and above the note with trill there's a slur, the agrement is placed 
below the slur, instead of being above, as trills should be.


\version 2.11.51

\score {

\relative c'' 
\new Staff {

\time 2/4
b4( ais8._+) b16


}

Is it possible to deplace the + above the slur? I tried the command 
\once \override Script #'padding - #*.* but nothing has changed.


Thank you
F.



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dynamic spanner help

Also, the \crescTextCresc and \dimTextDim work like there's a \once in  
front of them when they're in the variable.

\version 2.11.51
\layout {
   \context {
  \type Engraver_group
  \name VocalDynamics
  \alias Voice
  \consists Text_engraver
  \consists Dynamic_engraver
  \consists Text_engraver
  \override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
   }
   \context {\Staff \accepts VocalDynamics}
}
Voice = \relative { e1 f g e a g f d }
VoiceDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
   \override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
   \dimTextDim
   s1*3\ s1\!
   \crescTextCresc
   s1*3\ s1\!
   \setHairpinDim
}
AlternateDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
   \dimTextDim
   s1 s\ s s\!
   s1 s\ s s\!
}

\score {
   \new Staff  \VoiceDynamics \Voice
   \layout {}
}
\score {
   \new Staff  \AlternateDynamics \Voice 
   \layout {}
}

\relative c'' {
   \override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
   \crescTextCresc
   c1\ | d | b | c\!
   c\ d b c\!
}



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Re: Some Midi Output Problems

2008-07-09 Thread Trevor Daniels



grick wrote Monday, July 07, 2008 3:47 PM

In this way the trumpet sound is audible. But it's not enough. Now the 
chords played by the acoustic piano(default) in the background is too loud 
and cover the instrument armony in most passages.


The question is: how i can decrease the chords volume? (or the opposite, 
how can i increase the trumpet volume instead of lower all the others 
instrument?)


You can reduce the volume of the default piano in the same way, by setting 
midiMinimumVolume and midiMaximumVolume in the piano staff.  Note, though, 
that these controls only take effect on encountering a dynamic mark, so be 
sure you have a mark at the beginning of the piano notes.


BTW, an easier way may be to simply use quieter dynamic marks on the music 
of the instruments you want to reduce - these also affect the MIDI volume.



To do this i use often staccato notes (a4-. a4-. a4-. a4-.).

I expect my midi output sound like (a8 r8 a8 r8 a8 r8 a8 r8) but sadly it 
does not interpret them at all and sound like a simple (a4 a4 a4 a4).


I can simple write (a8 r8) version everywhere but the sheet become really 
difficult to read for the performers.


Is there a way to avoid to mantain a double version of the sheets? (one 
for the performers with a4-. version and one for the midi output with a8 
r8 one?)


Sorry, apart from using separate versions I don't know how to do this other 
than by writing a Scheme procedure to add the staccato marks in the midi 
\score block.


Trevor



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Very Shorter Rhythmic Durations

2008-07-09 Thread Myron Marston

I'm working on an algorithmic composition program, and I'm using Lilypond to
generate the scores. There is the very real possibility of getting very
short rhythmic durations (such as 128ths, 256ths, 512ths, etc). It appears
that lilypond cannot handle these; I get an error saying warning: flag `u7'
not found.

I know that scores that include rhythmic durations such as these won't be
particularly playable, but I'd like to still be able to generate something
for the score; after all, something is better than nothing. My first
thought is to replace these extremely short notes with grace notes, since
that's essentially what they are anyway. However, the grace note Lilypond
documentation[1] states that grace notes take up no logical time, and I want
these notes to still take up the appropriate duration, so that the bar lines
are places correctly. Looking through the documentation, I'm seeing a
couple possibilities for how to accomplish this:

- Scaling Durations[2]. This looks promising, although the grace notes take
up no space, and scaling zero times some factor is still zero. So maybe not
so promising :(.
- Time Administration[3]. It looks like I could just update the measure
position after each grace note. However, the documentation on this is
pretty sparse and I don't fully understand how to use it.

Has anyone dealt with this issue before? Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Myron

[1]
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Grace-notes#Grace-notes
[2]
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Scaling-durations#Scaling-durations
[3]
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Time-administration#Time-administration
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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )



On Jul 9, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:


Hi Sebastiano,


I don't know of any problem with the search function.


I still find it odd -- and a bit disconcerting -- that the page says  
(e.g.) 0-13 of 14 results...  ;-)



I know. I'm trying to fight with a prejudice that dates back to the  
Romans. It's difficult :).


Ciao,

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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )


Sebastiano,

I know. I'm trying to fight with a prejudice that dates back to the  
Romans. It's difficult :).


Ha!!

Seriously... is one-indexing the LSR code (which is clearly zero- 
indexed) difficult for some reason?
In all the programming I've done — including Java, etc. — I've found  
reindexing to be fairly easy, in general...


Cheers,
Kieren.

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Re: changelog (was: Arbitrary changes?)

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Reeves

It took me a couple of minutes to scan through the source code (of 
convert-ly.py) as Han-Wen suggested and find the changes in 2.11.51, so as 
a convenience to others, here they are:

\\octave changed to \\octaveCheck
arpeggioUp changed to arpeggioArrowUp
arpeggioDown changed to arpeggioArrowDown
arpeggioNeutral changed to arpeggioNormal
setTextCresc changed to crescTextCresc
setTextDecresc changed to dimTextDecresc
setTextDecr changed to dimTextDecr
setTextDim changed to dimTextDim
setHairpinCresc changed to crescHairpin
setHairpinDecresc changed to dimHairpin
sustainUp changed to sustainOff
sustainDown changed to sustainOn
sostenutoDown changed to sostenutoOn
sostenutoUp changed to sostenutoOff

Funny thing is, the only ones I use are the cresc and dim ones, and I 
don't see what was gained by those changes, but no big deal - I'd have to 
look them up the next time used them anyway most likely.


Tim Reeves
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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )



On Jul 9, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:


Sebastiano,

I know. I'm trying to fight with a prejudice that dates back to the  
Romans. It's difficult :).


Ha!!

Seriously... is one-indexing the LSR code (which is clearly zero- 
indexed) difficult for some reason?
In all the programming I've done — including Java, etc. — I've found  
reindexing to be fairly easy, in general...



One-indexing is brain damaged. See EWD831: 
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html

Ciao,

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Re: Frech trills and slurs. A bug?



Am 09.07.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Francesco Spiga:

I have a problem which was also reported by Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen some  
times ago.


Lilypond places by default articulation symbols below the slurs.
So, if I try to mark a trill by a + (like in ancient French  
music), and above the note with trill there's a slur, the agrement  
is placed below the slur, instead of being above, as trills should be.


\version 2.11.51

\score {

\relative c'' 
\new Staff {

\time 2/4
b4( ais8._+) b16


}

Is it possible to deplace the + above the slur? I tried the command  
\once \override Script #'padding - #*.* but nothing has changed.


Thank you
F.



Hopefully this gets you closer. You can specify whether scripts are  
inside or outside slurs

\version 2.11.51

\relative c''
{
   \override Script #'avoid-slur = #'outside
   \time 2/4
   \stemDown b4_( ais8._+) b16
}

\relative c''
{
   \time 2/4
   \stemDown b4_( ais8._+) b16
} 
 



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Re: LSR search is broken

2008-07-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG


  Seriously... is one-indexing the LSR code (which is clearly
  zero-indexed) difficult for some reason?  In all the programming
  I've done — including Java, etc. — I've found reindexing to be
  fairly easy, in general...
 
 One-indexing is brain damaged. See EWD831:
 http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html

This might be true for Mathematics, but not for `real' life: If there
are four items lying on the table, and you have to enumerate them,
most people will call them item 1 to item 4, and *not* item 0 to
item 3.  Please change this.


Werner
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Re: different rhythmic units for tuplet's numerator and denominator

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Johnson



urisala wrote:
 
 
 Would it be possible to make a generic function that works for the  
 tuplet in red and also in green?
 
 
 

I was curious to puzzle this one out and learn something about scheme.  A
partial answer, building on some snippets already out there, follows.  The
numerical logic is easy, but I've not been able to see how to use scheme to
count the notes in the music expression (though entering the number by hand
isn't that hard) and somehow can't combine the production of a bracket
within scheme with an expression to set the TupletNumber to show the note
length as well as the ratio.  What this does do is calculate the tuplet
durations, the ratios, and draw the music.

Of course, depending what you're writing, it might be easier to set up some
re-usable patterns.

Hope this helps.

Peter

%%%
\version 2.11.49

%% Applies duration number to each note
#(define (transformEachNote chordElt d)
(begin
(if (or (eq? 'NoteEvent (ly:music-property chordElt 'name))
(eq? 'RestEvent (ly:music-property chordElt 'name)))
(set! (ly:music-property chordElt 'duration) d)
)
chordElt
))

%% Deals with chords
#(define (getChords musicElt d)
(begin
   (if (eq? 'EventChord (ly:music-property musicElt 'name))
(map
(lambda (x) (transformEachNote x d))
(ly:music-property musicElt 'elements)
)
   )
   musicElt
))

%% Converts duration into ly form - here dnl is one of 1, 2, 4, 8... with no
.s attached
#(define (string-duration dnl num dnm)
(
let*(
(dur (ly:intlog2 dnl))  ;; dur = 0 1 2 3 ... (need for ly:make-duration)
  )
(ly:make-duration dur 0 num dnm)
))

%% Calculates the durations and constructs the tuplet
%% Inputs: span = number of baseunit notes to fill; baseunit = note unit
you're filling; count = number of new notes to input; notes = music
expression, pitches and articulations only
makeTuplet = #(define-music-function (parser location span baseunit count
notes) (number? number? number? ly:music?)
(   
let*(
(udf (expt 2 (truncate (/ span count  ;; unit duration 
factor
(dnl (/ baseunit udf )) ;; displayed note length of tuplet
(den (* count udf)) ;; denominator of tuplet ratio
)
(music-map
(lambda (x)
(getChords x (string-duration dnl span den)))
notes
)
  (make-music 'TimeScaledMusic
   'denominator span
   'numerator count
   'element notes
  )
))

\relative
{
\time 4/4
\autoBeamOff
\override TupletNumber #'text = #tuplet-number::calc-fraction-text
c16 \makeTuplet #11 #16 #5 {d^\p( e f\ g a-.) } b4\! c1 
}
%%% EOF
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Re: indexing (was LSR search is broken)

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Reeves

I agree with Kieren and Werner. 
Programming and Mathematics aside, if I'm standing in line, the first 
person to be served will be the first person in line, not the zeroth 
person in line. I don't think zeroth person in line has ever been 
uttered. And I'm not just being anti-pedantic. Believe me, I can be 
quite pedantic. ;-)



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Re: changelog (was: Arbitrary changes?)

2008-07-09 Thread Graham Percival

Or you could have done what I suggested to Haipeng, and ran
convert-ly -s --from=2.11.50
to see a list of all these changes.  No looking at source code required.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:58:30 -0700
Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It took me a couple of minutes to scan through the source code (of 
 convert-ly.py) as Han-Wen suggested and find the changes in 2.11.51,
 so as a convenience to others, here they are:
 
 \\octave changed to \\octaveCheck
 arpeggioUp changed to arpeggioArrowUp
 arpeggioDown changed to arpeggioArrowDown
 arpeggioNeutral changed to arpeggioNormal
 setTextCresc changed to crescTextCresc
 setTextDecresc changed to dimTextDecresc
 setTextDecr changed to dimTextDecr
 setTextDim changed to dimTextDim
 setHairpinCresc changed to crescHairpin
 setHairpinDecresc changed to dimHairpin
 sustainUp changed to sustainOff
 sustainDown changed to sustainOn
 sostenutoDown changed to sostenutoOn
 sostenutoUp changed to sostenutoOff
 
 Funny thing is, the only ones I use are the cresc and dim ones, and I 
 don't see what was gained by those changes, but no big deal - I'd
 have to look them up the next time used them anyway most likely.
 
 
 Tim Reeves
 


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Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )

2008-07-09 Thread Valentin Villenave

2008/7/9 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I still find it odd -- and a bit disconcerting -- that the page says (e.g.)
 0-13 of 14 results...  ;-)

I mentioned it a while back:
http://valentin.villenave.info/The-LilyPond-Report-5#outil_sommaire_3

Cheers,
Valentin


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Markup and music side by side

2008-07-09 Thread Risto Vääräniemi

Hi,

I was wondering if there's a way to put a markup block, e.g., on the
left side of the paper and the music on the right side of the page? I
am wrestling with quite a peculiar piece that consists of snippets of
music and performing instructions and I'd like to put the text next to
the music.

I guess it's possible in lilypond-book. However if that's the only
option I'll probably use some other software to place the LP-generated
systems and the text.

-Risto


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Re: changelog (was: Arbitrary changes?)

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Reeves

True, but I usually avoid command line stuff. I'm on Windows XP.
Also, I learned a little bit by looking at the code. Not enough to do 
anything with it, mind you.


Tim Reeves





Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
07/09/2008 12:49 PM

To
Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED], Han-Wen Nienhuys 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject
Re: changelog (was: Arbitrary changes?)






Or you could have done what I suggested to Haipeng, and ran
convert-ly -s --from=2.11.50
to see a list of all these changes.  No looking at source code required.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:58:30 -0700
Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It took me a couple of minutes to scan through the source code (of 
 convert-ly.py) as Han-Wen suggested and find the changes in 2.11.51,
 so as a convenience to others, here they are:
 
 \\octave changed to \\octaveCheck
 arpeggioUp changed to arpeggioArrowUp
 arpeggioDown changed to arpeggioArrowDown
 arpeggioNeutral changed to arpeggioNormal
 setTextCresc changed to crescTextCresc
 setTextDecresc changed to dimTextDecresc
 setTextDecr changed to dimTextDecr
 setTextDim changed to dimTextDim
 setHairpinCresc changed to crescHairpin
 setHairpinDecresc changed to dimHairpin
 sustainUp changed to sustainOff
 sustainDown changed to sustainOn
 sostenutoDown changed to sostenutoOn
 sostenutoUp changed to sostenutoOff
 
 Funny thing is, the only ones I use are the cresc and dim ones, and I 
 don't see what was gained by those changes, but no big deal - I'd
 have to look them up the next time used them anyway most likely.
 
 
 Tim Reeves
 

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Custom noteheads and chords

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Knapp

Hello,

With the help of a recent thread I have custom noteheads working just
the way I want them except for one detail. I would like to have chords
where each note in the chord has a different custom notehead. Here's
an example.

This works and each note has its own custom notehead.
{
  \noteheadOne c
  \noteheadTwo d
}

This is a syntax error:
{
   \noteheadOne c \noteheadTwo d 2
}


This is not a syntax error but each note has noteheadTwo
{
   \noteheadOne c2 \noteheadTwo e2
}

Thanks for the help.

-Eric


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Re: dynamic spanner help

2008-07-09 Thread Patrick McCarty

Hi James,

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:25 AM, James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've not understood this for a while, and I figure I should probably ask
 about it. When I have dynamics in a variable, the text spanner shows up and
 I can't get rid of it.

 Also, the \crescTextCresc and \dimTextDim work like there's a \once in front
 of them when they're in the variable.

The Dynamic_engraver was recently split into the
New_dynamic_engraver and the Dynamic_align_engraver, so if you
include these engravers instead of Dynamic_engraver, both of your
examples will work.  Here's the latter one (modified):

\version 2.11.51
\layout {
\context {
   \type Engraver_group
   \name VocalDynamics
   \alias Voice
   \consists Text_engraver
   \consists New_dynamic_engraver
   \consists Dynamic_align_engraver
   \consists Text_engraver
   \override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
}
\context {\Staff \accepts VocalDynamics}
}
Voice = \relative { e1 f g e a g f d }
VoiceDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\dimTextDim
s1*3\ s1\!
\crescTextCresc
s1*3\ s1\!
\setHairpinDim
}
AlternateDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
\dimTextDim
s1 s\ s s\!
s1 s\ s s\!
}

\score {
\new Staff  \VoiceDynamics \Voice
\layout {}
}
\score {
\new Staff  \AlternateDynamics \Voice 
\layout {}
}

\relative c'' {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\crescTextCresc
c1\ | d | b | c\!
c\ d b c\!
}


HTH,
Patrick


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Re: LSR search is broken

2008-07-09 Thread Patrick Horgan

It's not a matter even of using 0 or 1 indexing, it's the user interface 
that's in question.
In computer software most things are 0 indexed, but reported to users as 
if they are

counted by ones.  People count, computers index.

Thanks

Patrick


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Re: Custom noteheads and chords

2008-07-09 Thread Trevor Daniels


Eric

\tweak may be the command you need.  Have a look at section 4.1.4 Tweaking 
methods in the Learning Manual for release 2.11 to see why this is needed 
and how to use it.  The explanation there applies just as well to release 
2.10.  However, I believe it is not possible to use \tweak in a variable, so 
this might not be quite the answer you want.


Trevor

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Knapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: List lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Custom noteheads and chords



Hello,

With the help of a recent thread I have custom noteheads working just
the way I want them except for one detail. I would like to have chords
where each note in the chord has a different custom notehead. Here's
an example.

This works and each note has its own custom notehead.
{
 \noteheadOne c
 \noteheadTwo d
}

This is a syntax error:
{
  \noteheadOne c \noteheadTwo d 2
}


This is not a syntax error but each note has noteheadTwo
{
  \noteheadOne c2 \noteheadTwo e2
}

Thanks for the help.

-Eric


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Re: LSR search is broken

2008-07-09 Thread Patrick Horgan





Sebastiano Vigna wrote:

One-indexing is brain damaged. See EWD831:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html
  
  
Ciao,
  

I've read it, and while interesting, it doesn't bear much on the
issue.  It's obfuscatory rather than explicative.  I've also done the
counting starting with 0, but only tongue-in-cheek--you can look around
and see who the other geeks are by who's grinning instead of looking
puzzled, annoyed, or angry.  Counting counts how many there are, and
the first one is 1.  Indexing denotes a displacement
into a list and starts with 0.  Both are quite natural, but it doesn't
make sense to say that counting should start from 0 because 0 is a more
natural first index.   And that's what the article says.  I love
Dijkstra, but after all, he is one of us geeks, so of course he
would have fun whipping this out and posting it. grin;.   That
doesn't make counting from 0 a good communication skill:)

Patrick





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Re: changelog

2008-07-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG


 True, but I usually avoid command line stuff. I'm on Windows XP.

Poor guy :-)  There's nothing more powerful than a good shell and
small scripts written for it.  Just for fun I suggest to install, say,
bash or zsh...


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Special Markup Within Staff?

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Knapp

Hello,

I'm trying to use lilypond to do the full notation of my instrument,
the Chapman Stick. The one feature that I'm really struggling with are
String Markers. The Chapman Stick has lots of strings, 8, 10, or 12,
and its notation uses special markers on the staff lines to indicate
strings. This is essentially the combination of Staff notation and Tab
notation and it is called StaffTab. I have attached a small image that
shows the markers. The string markers are the small rectangles above
or below the notes. The marker doesn't have to be a rectangle, it
could be a short thick line, too.

I have tried to implement them with a new Voice with custom noteheads
and no stems. This runs into some collision issues with eighth and
sixteenth and the barlines. I have spent a few days working on custom
noteheads and these string markers. I just can't find a way to add
these to a staff. Does anyone have any ideas? Was I on the right track
treating them as notes in a voice?

Many thanks to the list for all your help.

-Eric
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Re: Markup and music side by side


Hi Risto,


I was wondering if there's a way to put a markup block, e.g., on the
left side of the paper and the music on the right side of the page?


Don't forget that \markup can include \score (as long as that \score  
includes a \layout):


\markup
{
\fill-line
{
\line { words go here }
\score { { a b c d e } \layout {} }
}
}

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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Re: Special Markup Within Staff?


Hi Eric,


I have tried to implement them with a new Voice
with custom noteheads and no stems.  [...]
Was I on the right track treating them as notes in a voice?


If they're always played at the same time -- i.e., as chords -- then  
why not just write them as chords, and \tweak the notehead shape of  
the appropriate element?


Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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Re: dynamic spanner help