Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread jo.clarinet



Neil Puttock wrote:
 
 2008/9/11 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Jo

 Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the
 2.11
 Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar.
 
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=504
 
 ...or if you want 1 and every nth:
 
 #(define ((first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible n) barnum)
   (or
 (= 1 barnum)
 (= 0 (modulo barnum n
 
 \relative c' {
   \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
   \set Score.barNumberVisibility =
 #(first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible 5)
   \bar 
   \repeat unfold 10 { c1 }
 }
 
 Regards,
 Neil
 
 I don't actually want/need the first bar numbered - just 5, 10 etc. I
 think the problem here is I simply don't understand what each bit of the
 process means, whereas the other LilyPond commands I've encountered so far
 seem more straightforward. I'm not really a technologically-minded person
 and have never done anything like this before. Looking at the commands
 above, which do I now need to leave out - and where do I insert these
 commands?
 
 Thanks,
 Jo
 
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apologies

2008-09-12 Thread jo.clarinet

Please disregard my previous post - I've done it (noticed one thing I needed
to change on what I had written)! That's made my day - hooray!!! :)
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Re: Shifted fermata over/below rests

2008-09-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/11 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Related question: Why do you only get one fermata when you do the following:
 b4^\fermata_\fermata
I dont know why.

I (still?) use 2.11.42, and this code:

\relative b' { b4^\fermata_\fermata b\rest \fermata b2\rest \fermata
r1 \fermata }

gives me (as attached).

 I'm not convinced that this is the best solution. The part combiner should do 
 this in a more clever
Part combiner does not fit in my situation. These are two voices,
\voiceOne and \voiceTwo,
every voice with its own lyrics.

So, the question remains :-)

Well, i can use workarounds, surely.


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Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Jo

 Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the 2.11
 Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar.

http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg39763.html

You have read this thread :-)


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Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread James E. Bailey


On 12.09.2008, at 08:01, jo.clarinet wrote:


I don't actually want/need the first bar numbered - just 5, 10 etc. I
think the problem here is I simply don't understand what each bit  
of the
process means, whereas the other LilyPond commands I've encountered  
so far
seem more straightforward. I'm not really a technologically-minded  
person
and have never done anything like this before. Looking at the  
commands

above, which do I now need to leave out - and where do I insert these
commands?

Thanks,
Jo


Lilypond manuals expect a fair bit of assumption. The first assumption  
is that everyone reads the entire manual. (I don't think I'll ever  
read chapter 6). The second assumption is that you read the code and  
try and deduce what it does.
Two persons here (myself included) posted this exact snippet from the  
manuals:


http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bar-numbers.html#Bar-numbers
% Print a bar number every second measure
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 2)

Reading that, there are some assumptions: the reader knows what a  
comment is; the reader has read the entire section of the  
documentation that this snippet is in. It's actually not that  
difficult to understand (if you have no difficulties understanding  
english.)


The first line tells you what's happening: instructions on how to  
print a bar number every 2 measures. The second line is what would  
need to be entered in order to do that. There are times when I see  
scheme code or functions in lilypond that I really don't understand,  
but, I know what I want. In this case, you want to show bar numbers  
every five measures. Looking at the above snippet, there are two  
explicit numbering words used: second, in the first line, and 2 in  
the second line. It would be safe to assume that the 2 in the second  
line is what determines how often the bar numbers are shown. Even if  
I'm not sure, I take the guess, copy/paste the code into my file  
(using the lilypond code available on the website as a template for  
where to place it) and change what I think would be correct to get the  
results I want. Sometimes I'm successful, sometimes I'm not. If not, I  
try two things.
First, I change the code in my file to give exactly the same output as  
in the documentation. If that works, then I know I'm just changing the  
wrong things, and I need to look for other examples to see the  
differences in what's changed. If that doesn't work, then I copy the  
exact snippet from the lilypond documentation into a new file and  
beginning adding the things that are specific to my music until I get  
a snippet that does what I want it to do. If that doesn't work, then I  
have a minimal snippet that shows exactly what I'm trying to do, and  
where it's failing, and I can post it here and ask questions.


I hope this helps you to understand reading the documentation and  
adapting it to your personal use.


james
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Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels

Dmytro O. Redchuk


2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Jo

Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the 
2.11

Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar.


http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg39763.html

You have read this thread :-)


Yes.  But if you read it more carefully you will notice this sets the number 
1
over the fifth bar, not the first.  Neil's solution, posted today, is the 
one

that really works.

Valentin - candidate for a snippet?


Trevor

Dmytro O. Redchuk

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Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Yes.  But if you read it more carefully you will notice this sets the number 1

I've posted smth like this that time:

{
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 1)
\bar 
\repeat unfold 4 { c4 c c c }
}

 over the fifth bar, not the first.  Neil's solution, posted today, is the one
 that really works.

 Valentin - candidate for a snippet?

 Trevor

 Dmytro O. Redchuk

 Trevor

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emacs-mode

2008-09-12 Thread James E. Bailey
Well, now that lilypond can compile a file in emacs, I've been looking  
around, getting myself acquainted with the various options.  
Apparently, the 2tex option calls lilypond as lilypond -b tex  
filename.ly The version of lilypond that I have installed says that  
should be -f tex (assuming I'm using the tex backend in my file).  
Also, just calling lilypond with the tex backend reported this:
Layout nach »Litany.tex« ausgeben.../Users/jamesebailey/share/lilypond/ 
2.11.58/scm/framework-tex.scm:197:26: While evaluating arguments to  
last-pair in expression (last-pair pages):
/Users/jamesebailey/share/lilypond/2.11.58/scm/framework-tex.scm: 
197:26: Unbound variable: pages


And the file was empty.

A minimal snippet to show what I mean:
\version 2.11.58
#(ly:set-option 'backend 'tex)

{
   b a g a b1
}



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Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels


Dmytro O. Redchuk Friday, September 12, 2008 9:06 AM



2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes.  But if you read it more carefully you will notice this sets the 
number 1


I've posted smth like this that time:

{
   \set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 1)
   \bar 
   \repeat unfold 4 { c4 c c c }
}


Ahh - right!  Sorry!  I missed that.

OK - I'll amend the manual to point out that a dummy bar line must be 
inserted at the start of the piece to print a bar number there.


Thanks!

Trevor



over the fifth bar, not the first.  Neil's solution, posted today, is the 
one

that really works.

Valentin - candidate for a snippet?


Scrub this suggestion!


Trevor


Dmytro O. Redchuk


Trevor


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Re: position of text in timeSig

2008-09-12 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
 I need the TimeSig, becauses I have written a larger, so called french score
Ah yes, i remember now the snippet in the LSR. Sorry !

 in the below quoted example the position of the rit is ver high.

So you just have to change all -\markup by ^\markup in tempotakt and 
replace the value of
\override TimeSig.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent
by #'(0 . 1) 

%
\version 2.11.49
\layout{

  \context { 
\type Engraver_group
   \consists Text_spanner_engraver
\consists Text_engraver
\consists Dynamic_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
 }
  \context {
\Score \accepts TimeSig} }


   the music   %%
tempotakt = {
\mark \default
s 1*6 \noBreak
s 1*4 ^\markup{\upright rit.  } \noBreak %tempotakt15-18
 s 8*7 s 8 %tempotakt 19, 
\mark \default
\time 2/4 s16^\markup { \column { \upright subito piu mosso   \line { ( 
\note # 4 #0.75 = 120) } \upright molto rit. } } %tempotakt 20, 
tempoangabe, hoffentlich schauts gescheit aus
s8. s8. s16  |\noBreak %tempotakt 20
\tempo 4 = 60 s2 | \break %tempotakt 21
}

marimba =   { 
R 1*6 
R 1*5
c' 16 d' e' f' g' a' r 8 
R 2 
}
\new Score
{ \override Score.Hairpin #'minimum-length = #8
\set Score.skipBars = ##t %damit werden die Mehrtaktpausen korrekt angezeigt 
 
\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-letters
\override Score.VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
\new TimeSig  { \override Score.TimeSignature #'style = #'( ) 

\override TimeSig.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(0 . 1)  
\tempotakt   }
   

\new Staff= rechts {  
\marimba} 


}
%%
I hope it's what you wanted now.

Gilles

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note entry suddenly stops

2008-09-12 Thread Michae Phillips
Is there a reason why entering notes in a score is suddenly stopped? I have
never encountered this before. I am 16-bars from the end of a Bach concerto with
all the other parts entered (I cut and pasted these from input files - is that
perhaps the problem?)

Thanks,
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Re: note entry suddenly stops

2008-09-12 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 12 september 2008, schreef Michae Phillips:
 Is there a reason why entering notes in a score is suddenly stopped? I have
 never encountered this before. I am 16-bars from the end of a Bach concerto
 with all the other parts entered (I cut and pasted these from input files -
 is that perhaps the problem?)

Which editor are you using to type in?

best regards,
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Re: LSR up

2008-09-12 Thread Ralph Palmer
Wonderful! I'm grateful for your efforts. I've missed the LSR a number of
times.

Peace,

Ralph

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Sebastiano Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 I've finally been able to remotely replace the hard disk of my server (it's
 1600 km away, and it broke down on Aug 13, when EVERYTHING is severely shut
 down in Italy). It moved to a read-only state because of a bad block on the
 file system journal.


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Re: LSR up

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
 Wonderful! I'm grateful for your efforts. I've missed the LSR a number of
 times.

Just another ME TOO! You don't really realize how much you depend on such a 
great utility until its not there any mored!

Sebastiano, thanks a lot for your great work and the service you have done to 
the LilyPond community with it!

Cheers,
Reinhol;d


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  bad block on the file system journal.

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Restart of a whole system on the same line

2008-09-12 Thread Jan van Dijk
Hi,

I like to stop a system after one bar, have some white space added and start 
the system again (including the systemStartDelimiter, the clef and the key 
signature).
I haven't been able to create this with the \stopStaff and \startStaff 
commands.

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Re: convert-ly broken on Mac OS X Tiger?

2008-09-12 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2008/09/10 4:11 AM, John Mandereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2008/09/09 21:31 -0700, Kurt Kroon wrote:

 I'm getting an error when I try to update a file to v.2.11.57 on Mac OS X
 Tiger, running on a G4 PowerBook. (The file works fine in v.2.10.33,
 though I need to do some more tweaks to fix some minor layout issues.)
 
 Providing Python 2.4 in GUB binaries for MacOS X Tiger is probably the
 right solution, but it's not too hard to do only if Python 2.4 can be
 cross-compiled on Linux for MacOS X.  Not I'm not able to do this in GUB
 (yet).  In the meantime, you may want to install Python 2.4 or 2.5 on
 your system.

I just upgraded my Python installation to version 2.5.2 (via MacPython), but
I'm still getting that error.

(I even renamed my dev install, just in case Mac OS X didn't like the space
I used to have in the name.)

So is this a problem with the MacPython package?
Is it time for me to dig into my system's (and Python's) guts?

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creating header properties on the fly

2008-09-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hello all,

I'd like to be able to say, e.g.

\header
{
title = My Really Cool Composition
alternateTitle = MRCC
}

and then at some point use

\fromproperty #'header:alternateTitle

Is there any mechanism — built-in or Scheme-tastic — which would let  
me do this?


Thanks,
Kieren.

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Printing first and every n bar numbers

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels

Valentin

Are these worth a snippet (or two?) for Rhythms?

\relative c'' {
 % Print the first and every fifth bar numbers
 \set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 1)
 \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #all-visible
 \bar 
 c1
 \set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible 5)
 \repeat unfold 9 { c1 }
}

The alternative is Neil's music function:

#(define ((first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible n) barnum)
 (or
   (= 1 barnum)
   (= 0 (modulo barnum n

\relative c'' {
 \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
 \set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible 
5)

 \bar 
 \repeat unfold 10 { c1 }
}

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Re: Printing first and every n bar numbers

2008-09-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Valentin

 Are these worth a snippet (or two?) for Rhythms?

Isn't it a duplicate of http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=91 ?

 The alternative is Neil's music function:

 #(define ((first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible n) barnum)
 (or
   (= 1 barnum)
   (= 0 (modulo barnum n

Oh, this could definitely worth a new snippet (IMO).

Cheers,
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Re: creating header properties on the fly

2008-09-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/9/12 Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Is there any mechanism — built-in or Scheme-tastic — which would let me do
 this?

I could be wrong, but I think this is already possible (I've been
using such a trick for several months).

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: creating header properties on the fly

2008-09-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Valentin Villenave wrote:


I could be wrong, but I think this is already possible (I've been
using such a trick for several months).


WOW! I was *sure* that I tried this a few months ago, and got nowhere  
— now, it definitely works.


This is very cool, and should be documented — currently, 3.2.1  
implies that this shouldn't work:

The header block for a book supports the following…
Here is a demonstration of the fields available.
etc.

Thanks!
Kieren.

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Re: Printing first and every n bar numbers

2008-09-12 Thread Trevor Daniels


Valentin Villenave Friday, September 12, 2008 2:24 PM

2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Valentin

Are these worth a snippet (or two?) for Rhythms?


Isn't it a duplicate of http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=91 ?


Not quite.  Both the snippets I sent did the same thing,
ie, print bar numbers over the first bar and then
every n bars.  Snippet 91 doesn't deal with the first
bar, although I guess it could be easily modified to
do so.


The alternative is Neil's music function:

#(define ((first-and-every-nth-bar-number-visible n) barnum)
(or
  (= 1 barnum)
  (= 0 (modulo barnum n


Oh, this could definitely worth a new snippet (IMO).


Although a music function is not really necessary to do
this, as the first snippet demonstrated.


Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: creating header properties on the fly

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
 Hello all,

 I'd like to be able to say, e.g.

   \header
   {
   title = My Really Cool Composition
   alternateTitle = MRCC
   }

 and then at some point use

   \fromproperty #'header:alternateTitle

 Is there any mechanism — built-in or Scheme-tastic — which would let
 me do this?

Sure, see the LSR (God, I'm so glad it's up again):
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=467

Cheers,
Reinhold


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Re: creating header properties on the fly

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
 Hi Valentin Villenave wrote:
  I could be wrong, but I think this is already possible (I've been
  using such a trick for several months).

 WOW! I was *sure* that I tried this a few months ago, and got nowhere
 — now, it definitely works.

Ah, you are only talking about using non-standard header fields inside the 
title markups? They work out of the box. 

However, using header fields in arbitrary markups (not in the title markups, 
e.g. inside the score), then you'll have to apply the trick I posted in my 
previous mail.

Cheers,
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Re: LSR up

2008-09-12 Thread Mike Blackstock
Thanks for pointing out the potential tomcat problem -  I run tomcat as 
well and hadn't thought of a possible root compromise. (I'm  least 
surprised about the never-ending security vigilance - just keeping on 
top of security is at least one full-time job, which nobody ever wants 
to pay for until something goes wrong and then they wander 'how come we 
didn't foresee this?' - sheesh!) :-P  I just run tripwire regularly and 
that gives me some peace of mind.


Anyway, I'm gonna use Nutch/Lucene to index all the lilypond 
documentation AND mail archives so people can search everything from one 
location;   Nutch runs under tomcat so I'll look into the root issue.


Cheers,
Mike
PS Incidentally, great job on the lilypond jail mode  - it was pretty 
straightforward getting it running once I installed Olivier Sessink's 
jailkit. (Well, as staightforward as these things can be!)




In the meantime I solved some security problem related to the fact  
that now tomcat doesn't run as root. You could be surprised to know  
that most of the time I spend on LSR is to make it work under the 
ever- changing Linux security policies :(.







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Vertical spacing on big systems

2008-09-12 Thread Michael Käppler

Hi all,
I'm having some trouble to get LilyPond to put two systems on a page 
without forcing that in the following example. (It's pretty long, sorry 
for that)
I don't really understand why Lily puts each system on one page though 
there is really enough free space on the first page.

Any hints?

Cheers,
Michael
\version 2.11.58

#(set-global-staff-size 16)

\paper {
 annotate-spacing = ##t
 ragged-last-bottom = ##f
 ragged-bottom = ##f
 paper-height = 279\mm
 paper-width = 209\mm
 top-margin = 10\mm
 bottom-margin = 10\mm
 left-margin = 10\mm
 foot-separation = 7\mm
 between-system-padding = #0.1
 between-system-space = #0.1
 #(define line-width (- paper-width (* 20 mm)))
 oddHeaderMarkup = ##f
 evenHeaderMarkup = ##f
 oddFooterMarkup = \markup \fontsize #1 \fill-line {   \on-the-fly 
#print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string }
 evenFooterMarkup = \markup \fontsize #1 \fill-line { \on-the-fly 
#print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string   }
}

\header {
 tagline = ##f
}

csI = \relative c'' {
 \time 4/2
 \key c \major
 b1. d2
 d1 d,2. d4
 e1 r
 R1*4/2*1
 g1. g2
 g g a b
 a g a b
 a g fis g
 a b a4 \melisma g a b
 c2. a2 gis4 \melismaEnd a2
}

cantusI = {
 \clef treble
 
  \csI
 
}

cantusIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 Hes -- pe -- re qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo 
lu -- cet
}

csII = \relative c'' {
 \key c \major
 R1*4/2*5
 r1 %
 r2 d1 b2
 r d2. d8 d d4 d
 d d d1 b2
 r d c f
 e a,8 [b c] \melisma a 
}

cantusII = {
 \clef treble
 
  \csII
 
}

cantusIIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hy -- men, o Hy -- me -- nae -- e hy -- men ad -- es
 o Hy -- me -- nae -- e 
}

asI = \relative c' {
 \key c \major
 d1. b2
 a1 b2. b4
 c\breve
 R1*4/2*1
 g1 g
 g2. g'4 fis2 g
 d \melisma g, d' \melismaEnd b
 R1*4/2*1
 r2 g' e f
 g f r1
}

altusI = {
 \clef treble
 
  \asI
 
}

altusIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 Hes -- pe -- re qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo lu -- cet
}

asII = \relative c'' {
 \key c \major
 g1. g2
 fis1 g2. g4
 g1 r2 c,1
 d2 d1
 e1. e2
 d\breve
 r2 g fis g
 d g, a b
 a g r1
 R1*4/2*1
}

altusII = {
 \clef treble
 
  \asII
 
}

altusIIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 qui cae-- lo lu -- cet cae -- lo lu -- cet
}

trI = \relative c' {
 \key c \major
 g1. g2
 d\breve % könnte auch c sein
 r2 g2. g4 a2
 g b a2. \melisma b
 c2 \melismaEnd c1 c2
 b r2 g
 a b a g
 a b a g
 d'1 r
 r r2 e
}

tenorI = {
 \clef treble_8
 
  \trI
 
}

tenorIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo lu -- cet
}

tenorII = {
 \clef treble_8
 
  \transpose c' c \csII
 
}

bsI = \relative c { 
 \key c \major
 R1*4/2*1
 r1 g2. g4
 c2 c2. c4 f,2
 c' g d'1
 c2. \melisma d4 \melismaEnd e2. \melisma c4 \melismaEnd
 d1 r
 r r2 g
 fis g d g,
 R1*4/2*2
}

bassusI = {
 \clef bass
 
  \bsI
 
}

bassusIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo lu -- cet
}

bsII = \relative c' {
 \key c \major
 R1*4/2*1
 r1 g2. g4 
 g2 e2. e4 f2
 e8 \melisma d \melismaEnd e \melisma c \melismaEnd g'2. \melisma f8 [e] f4 g 
\melismaEnd
 e1 c
 g r2 g'
 fis g d g,
 r1 r2 g'
 fis g a d,
 R1*4/2*1
}

bassusII = {
 \clef bass
 
  \bsII
 
}

bassusIIlyrics = \lyricmode {
 Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re Hes -- pe -- re
 qui cae -- lo lu -- cet qui cae -- lo lu -- cet 
}

\score {
 
  \new Voice = cantusII \cantusII
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto cantusII \cantusIIlyrics
  \new Voice = cantusI \cantusI 
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto cantusI \cantusIlyrics
  \new Voice = altusII \altusII
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto altusII \altusIIlyrics
  \new Voice = altusI \altusI
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto altusI \altusIlyrics
  \new Voice = tenorII \tenorII
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto tenorII \cantusIIlyrics
  \new Voice = tenorI \tenorI
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto tenorI \tenorIlyrics
  \new Voice = bassusII \bassusII
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto bassusII \bassusIIlyrics
  \new Voice = bassusI \bassusI 
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto bassusI \bassusIlyrics
 
 \layout {
  \context {
   \Score
   autoBeaming = ##f
  }
  \context {
   \Lyrics
   \override LyricText #'font-size = #0
   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0.75 . 1.0)
  }
  \context {
   \Staff
   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-3 . 3)
  }
 }
}
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Re: Vertical spacing on big systems

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 schrieb Michael Käppler:
 Hi all,
 I'm having some trouble to get LilyPond to put two systems on a page
 without forcing that in the following example. (It's pretty long, sorry
 for that)
 I don't really understand why Lily puts each system on one page though
 there is really enough free space on the first page.
 Any hints?

Yes, Lilypond wastes 10% of the vertical space on each page. You have 98 left, 
but lilypond reserves a little less than 20 units for possible rounding 
errors when calculating the staff spacings (yes, I agree, that's insane!). So 
lilypond thinks there is only ~80 staff spaces left, while the second system 
needs 90.

This came up a while ago on the -devel list:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00145.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00329.html

You might try to comment out (or at least reduce) these 10% of reserved space 
and see if you run into any staff collisions (which I don't think should 
happen, but then I haven't dug deep enought for this staff!).

Cheers,
Reinhold
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Re: Vertical spacing on big systems

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Reinhold,

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, Lilypond wastes 10% of the vertical space on each page. You have 98 left,
 but lilypond reserves a little less than 20 units for possible rounding
 errors when calculating the staff spacings (yes, I agree, that's insane!). So
 lilypond thinks there is only ~80 staff spaces left, while the second system
 needs 90.

 This came up a while ago on the -devel list:
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00145.html
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00329.html

 You might try to comment out (or at least reduce) these 10% of reserved space
 and see if you run into any staff collisions (which I don't think should
 happen, but then I haven't dug deep enought for this staff!).

Thanks for the links!

Maybe this reserved space was needed when various vertical dimension
variables (top-margin, bottom-margin, etc.) were *scaled* depending on
the staff size.  But now since they are exact (in 2.11.58), maybe this
*reserved* space can be decreased or eliminated entirely?

I could be mixing up two different issues, I don't know.  But I'll
look at scm/layout-page-layout.scm to see if I can understand what is
going on.

Cheers,
Patrick


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Re: convert-ly broken on Mac OS X Tiger?

2008-09-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:14:30 -0700
Kurt Kroon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just upgraded my Python installation to version 2.5.2 (via
 MacPython), but I'm still getting that error.
 
 (I even renamed my dev install, just in case Mac OS X didn't like the
 space I used to have in the name.)
 
 So is this a problem with the MacPython package?
 Is it time for me to dig into my system's (and Python's) guts?

That would be a complete waste of time.  See my message on Sep 2
to this list.  Search for env python.

Cheers,
- Graham


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position of instrument

2008-09-12 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypond-users,
in the below quoted example the position  Trompete in B should be higher
than con sord.. How can I change it?

changeInstrument =
#(define-music-function (parser location string) (string?)
(make-music
'TextScriptEvent
'direction UP
'text (markup #:bold (#:box string

inst = #changeInstrument % leichterer Name; nach dem inst-befehl einfach
den Namen des Instruments in Anfuehrungszeichen angeben

{  \inst Trompete in B  c' ^\markup{ \italic con sord. } }
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Re: size of bass clef

2008-09-12 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear James,
thanks for Your help. But what can I do, if I only want to change the size
of the bassclef and if I have an instrument like piano, where the clefs are
changing constantly?

2008/9/10 James E. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 10.09.2008, at 18:05, Stefan Thomas wrote:

 Dear Lilypond-users,
 a friend of mine (he uses finale and he can be very stressing with
 note-typing things) is of the opinion, that the bass-clef in lilypond is to
 small.
 Is it possible to change the size of the bass clef?


 Yes, clef is part of the font-interface, which supports font-size. Have a
 look in the documentation at overriding context properties.

 http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-override-command.html#The-override-commandhttp://kainhofer.com/%7Elilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-override-command.html#The-override-command

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dayly summary

2008-09-12 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypond users,
since a couple of day I don't get the dayly summary of the user-group any
more. Is it a problem I share with others?
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Automatic accidentals

2008-09-12 Thread Steven Weber
I'm typesetting some harp music, and I'd really like to be able to setup the
automatic accidentals to be kind of a mix of modern and forget - I want
accidentals on every measure like modern, but I want the cautionary
cancellation to appear the first time the non-accidental note appears
(regardless of octave), no matter how many measures have occurred between
the accidental and the cancellation.  This makes it very easy to see where
pedal changes need to occur.

 

Is there an easy way to do this automatically?  I'd really rather not have
to go add the cautionary accidentals to the notes myself, as I'm bound to
miss some.

 

Thanks!

 

--Steven

 

 

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Re: size of bass clef

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 schrieb Stefan Thomas:
 Dear James,
 thanks for Your help. But what can I do, if I only want to change the size
 of the bassclef and if I have an instrument like piano, where the clefs are
 changing constantly?

use something like
mybassclef = {\once\override Staff.Clef #'font-size = #3 \clef bass }

\relative c' { \clef treble c4 \mybassclef c \clef treble c \mybassclef c 
\clef treble c}

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-09-12 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:49 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a
écrit : 
 Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
  Here's my initial design submission for the docs - it's just a gentle
  modification of the CSS file:

Cool!  I applied it, and made some changes, see
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2d91785b770533fd27763c5b773855f6723fd98#patch3
BTW I don't know what #CCF was supposed to mean as a color.


  - use Century Schoolbook L if available to match the LilyPond output
  (Georgia is also a good option)
 
 Actually, on -devel we discussed fonts a while ago and decided not to put any 
 font family in the .css file. The reason is that each user has different 
 preferences and different fonts he is used to for viewing web pages. Any 
 other font will only be confusing / make the output look unusual. 
 In particular, I like a sans-serif font for viewing web pages, because I 
 think 
 that makes it much easier to read on screen (the is no additional clutter 
 coming from the serifs, that the eye must comprehend, so there is less 
 distraction from the main contours of the glyphs), while e.g. John or Graham 
 prefer a serif font. We have all configured our browser to show the sans / 
 serif fonts as default fonts, so LilyPond's documentation should honor that 
 setting, too.

I second this.


 - the colors are taken from the Monet Waterlilies on the LilyPond
homepage

I find it a good idea, even if we might decide to change this image:
it's a small heavily compressed JPEG image, this is not appealing
enough, LilyPond deserves better graphics on its start page.  Feel free
to propose a replacement for it, e.g. a graphical mixture of Monet
Waterlilies and some LilyPond output...


  I didn't change the color of the box at the bottom (This page is for
  LilyPond-2.11.58) because it was styled right in the HTML file.
 
 Oops, yeah, that should be moved to the CSS, too.

Done in Git.  BTW I made html_postprocessing.py apply this style sheet
to toplevel pages too: the documentation index, the examples page,
translation status pages and developers page.

Andrew, feel free to suggest a new color for the footer :-)

Cheers,
John



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Re: convert-ly broken on Mac OS X Tiger?

2008-09-12 Thread David Fedoruk
Hello:

I recall that one of the pages in the Lilypond documentation
specifically for Mac OS X suggested a second way to set environmental
variables via Property LIst. I created that suggested Property List
but the path for Python began /System/Library (I cut and pasted it
from the example.

However typing env in a command line window reveals this path for python:

PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin

No System in front of it!

I installed the Mac OS X Python package as well, so there was a
conflict between those two paths. I logged out of my account and
logged back in to see if the change had been made. convert-ly still
failed. I've restarted and attempted convert-ly with the same results.

My current version of python:

Python -V
Python 2.5.2

Python shell:

Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Feb 22 2008, 07:57:53)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.


which Python:

/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/Python

env

PYTHON_DATADIR=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/
PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin: (etc.)

Mac OS X 10.4.11 PPC 1Ghz iBook G4

The only change I can see to make would be to be more explicit in the
Property List and add the line as in the result of which.

David



On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:14:30 -0700
 Kurt Kroon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just upgraded my Python installation to version 2.5.2 (via
 MacPython), but I'm still getting that error.

 (I even renamed my dev install, just in case Mac OS X didn't like the
 space I used to have in the name.)

 So is this a problem with the MacPython package?
 Is it time for me to dig into my system's (and Python's) guts?

 That would be a complete waste of time.  See my message on Sep 2
 to this list.  Search for env python.

 Cheers,
 - Graham


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Re: convert-ly broken on Mac OS X Tiger?

2008-09-12 Thread Graham Percival
That's not the issue.  The issue is that convert-ly calls
  /usr/bin/python
which is 2.3.5 for you (and me).

Cheers,
- Graham

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:55:38 -0700
David Fedoruk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello:
 
 I recall that one of the pages in the Lilypond documentation
 specifically for Mac OS X suggested a second way to set environmental
 variables via Property LIst. I created that suggested Property List
 but the path for Python began /System/Library (I cut and pasted it
 from the example.
 
 However typing env in a command line window reveals this path for
 python:
 
 PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin
 
 No System in front of it!
 
 I installed the Mac OS X Python package as well, so there was a
 conflict between those two paths. I logged out of my account and
 logged back in to see if the change had been made. convert-ly still
 failed. I've restarted and attempted convert-ly with the same results.
 
 My current version of python:
 
 Python -V
 Python 2.5.2
 
 Python shell:
 
 Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Feb 22 2008, 07:57:53)
 [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5363)] on darwin
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 
 
 which Python:
 
 /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/Python
 
 env
 
 PYTHON_DATADIR=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/
 PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin: (etc.)
 
 Mac OS X 10.4.11 PPC 1Ghz iBook G4
 
 The only change I can see to make would be to be more explicit in the
 Property List and add the line as in the result of which.
 
 David
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:14:30 -0700
  Kurt Kroon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just upgraded my Python installation to version 2.5.2 (via
  MacPython), but I'm still getting that error.
 
  (I even renamed my dev install, just in case Mac OS X didn't like
  the space I used to have in the name.)
 
  So is this a problem with the MacPython package?
  Is it time for me to dig into my system's (and Python's) guts?
 
  That would be a complete waste of time.  See my message on Sep 2
  to this list.  Search for env python.
 
  Cheers,
  - Graham
 
 
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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
 Andrew, feel free to suggest a new color for the footer :-)

 Cheers,
 John

You could change the footer from #e8ffe8 to #e7efe3 and the border
from #c0ffc0 to #ccd3cc. It looks like the padding/spacing in the
footer could be improved but for now I'm more curious to see Patrick's
design (and others).

Andrew


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Re: centering instrument name between staves

2008-09-12 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Samstag, 13. September 2008 schrieb David Bobroff:
 I'm trying to center an instrument name between two staves in a
 StaffGroup.  I looked for something in the docs and the LSR that was
 similar and didn't find what I was looking for.  The closest thing is a
 piano staff.  I tried setting the systemStartDelimiter to
 systemStartBracket but then I got the curly brace AND the bracket.

 To be as clear as possible; I want to position this like the word
 Piano would be placed on a PianoStaff but with a square bracket rather
 than the piano curly brace.

The StaffGroup context does not have the Instrument_name_engraver enabled by 
default (I'm wondering why, since it does not have any effect unless you set 
the instrumentName, in which case you definitely want the name to appear...), 
so you have to add it manually. See
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=115
and simply replace GrandStaff with StaffGroup.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: centering instrument name between staves

2008-09-12 Thread Jan van Dijk
Op Saturday 13 September 2008 01:45:28 schreef David Bobroff:
 I'm trying to center an instrument name between two staves in a
 StaffGroup.  I looked for something in the docs and the LSR that was
 similar and didn't find what I was looking for.  The closest thing is a
 piano staff.  I tried setting the systemStartDelimiter to
 systemStartBracket but then I got the curly brace AND the bracket.

 To be as clear as possible; I want to position this like the word
 Piano would be placed on a PianoStaff but with a square bracket rather
 than the piano curly brace.

 Thanks,

 David


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Perhaps this might help:
Add the following to your layout:

   \context {
  \StaffGroup
  \consists Instrument_name_engraver
   }

And set the instrumentName after the initialisation of your StaffGroup:
   \score {
 \context StaffGroup
  
 \set StaffGroup.instrumentName = \markup { Piano  \hspace #1 }
 \context Staff
 
 
  
   }

Good luck,
Jan van Dijk.


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Re: centering instrument name between staves

2008-09-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Jan (et al.):

Excellent suggestion. However, I wouldn't recommend using


\set StaffGroup.instrumentName = \markup { Piano  \hspace #1 }


since this means that the actual instrument name has a space in it —  
this is mixing content with presentation. Rather, I recommend  
adjusting the StaffGroup.InstrumentName #'padding property: you'll  
get the same result, without negatively affecting the use of the  
instrumentName elsewhere in the score.


HTH!
Kieren.

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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-09-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:11:20 -0700
Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew has been the only one to submit a design so far, but how are we
 going to decide which design to use if 10 more people submit designs?

What a horrible problem to have.  :)

- find any common issues amongst the designs, implement them.
- discuss any differences
- if no consensus is reached, somebody makes an executive
  decision.  In this case, it'd probably be Reinhold.  If he
  doesn't want to do it, I'd say that Trevor or John should
  decide.

Dealing with this kind of pressure and responsibility is the
reason that I got paid double what you're getting paid.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham


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editor for windows

2008-09-12 Thread Lewis Overton
I use a Mac and an external editor ... BUT ... I have a friend with a
Windows system. He asked me to recommend an editor to use with Lilypond
files. Any recommendations?

Lewy
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