Re: Flag grouping

2008-10-08 Thread Mark Polesky
Danny,

Try not to get in the habit of doubting LilyPond!
It can do so many things that most of don't realize.
And if there's something LilyPond should do that it
really can't, post a feature-request to the 
lilypond-devel mailing list. And if the docs are too
confusing, or they fail to answer your question,
posting a question to the mailing list is always
a good idea.

The answer to your question is here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Setting-automatic-beam-behavior#Setting-automatic-beam-behavior

specific reference is made to scm/auto-beam.scm
On Windows, the directory tree for the scm folder is:

LilyPond\usr\share\lilypond\current\scm

Here's one possible solution.

Hope this helps,
Mark

-

\version 2.11.61-1

GroupsOfTwo = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)
}
GroupsOfThree = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
}
GroupsOfSix = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
}

\relative c'' {
  \GroupsOfSix
  \time 6/8
  \partial 8*5
  \key e \minor
  \stemUp
  b8 c d e fis |
}



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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-08 Thread Brett Duncan

Alexander Kobel wrote:

A List Apart explains how to implement this with cookies, but we would
rather not use JavaScript:

And yes, I'm against JavaScript, too. This doesn't count as a real
client-side solution from my point of view.


?? What is the objection to JavaScript? And why do you not regard the 
script that is described on A List Apart as a real client-side solution?


Brett


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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp
PNG image attached.  This shows the default behavior when the slur is 
specifically positioned on the stem side, then there's a manually 
positioned slur showing more what it ought to look like, and finally 
another slur showing the default behavior when there are more than two 
notes being slurred together (this already looks good IMO, and the 
default for when there are only two notes ought to look more like this. 
 Here's the code:


\version 2.11.61

\relative c' {
% default, when slur is forced to stem side
  c^( d)
% positioned manually
  \once \override Slur #'positions = #'(0.8 . 1.2)
  c4^( e)
% default positioning if there are three or more.
  c^( d e2 f)
}


Valentin Villenave wrote:

2008/10/8 Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Han-Wen?  Any chance to improve the slur algorithm to fix this?


I'd happily add it to the tracker, but I'd need a report and
(preferably) a png image of what LilyPond does and what it should do.

Cheers,
Valentin



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flag grouping

2008-10-08 Thread Danny Sosa
Hi! I'm new to lilypond and I have my first doubt about the using it.
The tutorial has been very helpful and I've been able to do most of my first
project without problems.
What I am unable to do so far is change the grouping of flags.
in 6/8 time for example, is there a way to change the grouping of 8th notes
from two groups of three to three groups of two? how about one big group of
six?
The piece I am trying to typeset at the moment starts with a 5 note scale
pattern as an anacrusis on the soprano line:

\relative c'' {
  \time 6/8
  \partial 8*5
  \key e \minor
  \stemUp
  b8 c d e fis |
}

The original score has that pickup as a big group of five 8th notes, and at
often times has full bars as one big group of six.
By default, lilypond sorts the notes into two groups, one of two 8th notes
and one of three 8th notes. Please teach me how to change that.
Thank you very much for your time!
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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Ari Torhamo
ke, 2008-10-08 kello 08:33 +0100, Trevor Daniels kirjoitti:
 Ari Torhamo wrote  Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:37 AM
 
  I have also tried to add \lyricsto in different places on the string
  above (docs suggest to use it), but then the file won't even render. Can
  you see what I'm doing wrong?
 
 The problem is that the PianoStaff context does not accept a Lyrics
 context by default, so it is pushed outside.  To do what you what,
 change the PianoStaff line to:
 
\new PianoStaff \with { \accepts Lyrics } 
 
 so that Lyrics can be included within it.

It works, it works! Now I can get forward with what I'm doing :-) 

One more thing. I tried to add \lyricsto to the line above, but this
caused an error message. I'm trying to align the lyrics to the melody,
so that it wouldn't be necessary to add the durations by hand. Is there
a way to get this to work with the structure I'm using?

 I'll see if I can add this to the docs somewhere.

Great, this would be very helpful for newcomers.


Thanks for helping me out with this :-)

Ari



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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/8 Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Han-Wen?  Any chance to improve the slur algorithm to fix this?

I'd happily add it to the tracker, but I'd need a report and
(preferably) a png image of what LilyPond does and what it should do.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-08 Thread Robin Bannister

Me answering Rheinhold:
 The pale yellow/light brown would make the navbars almost invisible on TFT 
 screens, so I think the current state is much better. 
...
So what/where is the current state? 


Sorry, I got mixed up; I thought this meant the navbars would disappear. 
But now I think it means they would still be legible (and could be used) 
but the cohesion provided by their background would be lost. 



Patrick McCarty wrote:
In the case where the vertical scrollbar is visible for the TOC pane, 
using a white background would be fine.  But for a page like [1], the 
TOC pane would no longer appear to be a pane, and I would argue for 
using color to indicate its separation (as it currently is). 
[1] http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/index.html 


Yes, I wasn't proposing white; that was just an intermediate stage in the 
argument. But this is a good answer for Patrick H. 

Well, fairly good. 
If the backgound difference can become almost invisible then 
the separation will surely be lost in this case too. 
But I suppose secondary clues (like placement) help out a bit. 



I wanted to see what almost invisible meant and tried this out (with IE6) 
on some flat screens. 
Navbars very visible on a BenQ monitor and an Inspiron laptop, both 2006. 
I could see the effect an a low-end 1998 laptop, but was a lot more 
bothered by other presentation problems, like text size versus screen size. 
Things were squeezed together too much; colour wouldn't have unjumbled it. 



The navbars have their own secondary clues (like brackety buttons and the 
grouped layout) so you would hardly mistake them for normal text. 
But a backgound is helpful for recognition, e.g. when a scrolling moves 
a navbar back into view. 
So: navbars same hue as TOC, but (only) slightly denser. Me, toeing my line. :)



Cheers,
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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
Terve Ari,

2008/10/8 Ari Torhamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It works, it works! Now I can get forward with what I'm doing :-)

 One more thing. I tried to add \lyricsto to the line above, but this
 caused an error message. I'm trying to align the lyrics to the melody,
 so that it wouldn't be necessary to add the durations by hand. Is there
 a way to get this to work with the structure I'm using?

Try modifying the following lines like this:

sopraano = \relative c'' \context Voice = sopraano {

\new Lyrics \lyricsto sopraano \sanat

(and of course Trevor's \accept trick.)

This creates a voice context to which you can attach the lyrics.

Just out of curiosity... Are you using PianoStaff for music with
lyrics in purpose instead of e.g. ChoirStaff?


-Risto


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Re: Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-08 Thread David Séverin
Le Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:32:09 +0100,
Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Jonathan
 
 There is no need to do any more of the Beethoven quartet.  The two bars you 
 have done already would be quite sufficient and would have been ideal, but 
 as you say, David's offering does display rather more of Lily's 
 capabilities.  Can we put this on ice while we check out David's offer?  I'm 
 very grateful for all your help on this.
 
 David
 
 Many thanks for your offering.  It is customary for the displayed extract to 
 show just the music in the LilyPond documentation, with the title and 
 acknowledgement placed in LilyPond comments - which can be seen by clicking 
 on the music of course.  Also we would probably not need the entire extract 
 you sent, maybe just the first section, up to rehearsal mark 2.  Would you 
 be happy with that?  If so, please send me the Lily code, with comments 
 giving the title, your name, date of composition, and a statement saying you 
 are happy to place the extract in the public domain.
 
 Trevor

Well thanks for the nice comments! I agree with all the requirements,
otherwise I would not have offered :-) The only thing is that I would like it 
to be
presented as the 'hand written' version [without times/rests/bars [or thin dash 
bars
to help the interpret, I was not sure yet but the hand written doesn't have 
any]].

I'll work on a small single sample file and will send it to you tomorrow [there 
are a
lot of small files right now ...]

Cheers,
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Re: Flag grouping

2008-10-08 Thread Mark Polesky
Oops. Forgot to add these two lines to GroupsOfSix:

  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
 
#(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)

- Mark

-
\version 2.11.61-1

GroupsOfTwo = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)
}
GroupsOfThree = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)
  #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
}
GroupsOfSix = {
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 2 8)
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 3 8)
  #(revert-auto-beam-setting '(end * * 6 8) 4 8)
}

\relative c'' {
  \time 6/8
  \partial 8*5
  \key e \minor
  \stemUp
  \GroupsOfSix
  b8 c d e fis |
}



  


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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/8 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 \relative c' {
 % default, when slur is forced to stem side
  c^( d)
 % positioned manually
  \once \override Slur #'positions = #'(0.8 . 1.2)
  c4^( e)
 % default positioning if there are three or more.
  c^( d e2 f)
 }

Thanks, added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=692

Cheers,
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Re: unusual Alto Clef

2008-10-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 When I was working on the ill-fated Ravel String Quartet passage as
 an unfretted strings headword, I noticed that the original score had
 a very cool-looking alto clef.  I know Lilypond has tons of
 odd-looking objects for early music, but I couldn't find a replica
 of this clef.  Does a clef like the one in the attached png image
 exist in Lilypond?

No.  Please make a report to bug-lilypond so that it gets added to the
wishlist.


Werner


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wildcards for \include ?

2008-10-08 Thread plutek-infinity
greetings!

thing kind of thing doesn't seem to work:
\include /some_directory/*.ly

and i don't see any reference to wildcards for \include in the docs.
is it possible somehow?

thanks!

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MIDI: turning off reverb

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Can someone tell me how to disable the reverb effect that is used by 
default in the MIDI output?  I don't see anything about this in the docs 
and the reverb is such that I can't hear individual lines very well in 
my orchestral piece.  Oy...


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Re: MIDI: turning off reverb

2008-10-08 Thread Graham Percival
It's not in the docs because it's not lilypond.  Consult the docs
for your MIDI player and/or synth.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:52:25 -0500
Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone tell me how to disable the reverb effect that is used by 
 default in the MIDI output?  I don't see anything about this in the
 docs and the reverb is such that I can't hear individual lines very
 well in my orchestral piece.  Oy...
 
 Jon
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Re: wildcards for \include ?

2008-10-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:00:10 -0400
plutek-infinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thing kind of thing doesn't seem to work:
 \include /some_directory/*.ly
 
 and i don't see any reference to wildcards for \include in the docs.
 is it possible somehow?

No, it doesn't work.  I get around it by doing this:

myinit/myinit.ly:
\include margins-a4-letter.ly
\include dynamics-extra.ly
\include custom-paper.ly
\include custom-headers.ly

and then have all those files in that directory.  Note that you
must add the directory to the lilypond search path with -I.

Cheers,
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Re: house chord style - global?

2008-10-08 Thread plutek-infinity
From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:43:13 -0600

On 10/2/08 9:59 AM, plutek-infinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i also wish to have chord symbols only notated when they change. normally, to
 implement that and the chord symbol modifications, i must put this in any
 \chords blocks which occur in any ly files:

 \set chordNameExceptions = #chExceptions
 \set chordChanges = ##t

 that all works fine, but i'm wondering if there is some way of setting
 chordNameExceptions and chordChanges globally, in the house-style.ly file,
 instead of having to \set it in every \chords block of every score.


You can do this quite easily.

You need to remember that \chords is a shortcut for
\new ChordNames { \chordmode { }}

All you need to do is redefine the defaults for the ChordNames context.

The details for doing this are explained in the 2.11 documentation, section
5.1.4 Changing context default settings

Once you have this done, perhaps you could post the results to
the LilyPond Snippet Repository.

thanks for your help, carl!

i've posted a snippet.

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Re: house chord style - global?

2008-10-08 Thread Carl D. Sorensen

On 10/8/08 1:06 PM, plutek-infinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:43:13 -0600

 that all works fine, but i'm wondering if there is some way of setting
 chordNameExceptions and chordChanges globally, in the house-style.ly file,
 instead of having to \set it in every \chords block of every score.


 You can do this quite easily.

 thanks for your help, carl!

 i've posted a snippet.

Thanks!

Carl




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Re: type1 lilypond fonts in windows

2008-10-08 Thread Aaron Dalton

fiëé visuëlle wrote:


Am 2008-10-08 um 07:43 schrieb Aaron Dalton:

I notice that the type1 fonts in the Lilypond distribution have the 
.PFB files but no .PFM files.  Are those downloadable somewhere?  
Windows needs both to install them.  I want to edit my pdf output in 
Illustrator but some elements are getting messed up due to font 
issues.  I found an old 2005 post but the site does not have the 
current fonts.




Certain fonts are not available in OTF format.  The feta fonts, for 
example, are only in SVG and type1 format.  If there's a way to use the 
SVG fonts in Windows, I'd appreciate any tips.  I can't seem to find 
anything.


Cheers!
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Re: type1 lilypond fonts in windows

2008-10-08 Thread Aaron Dalton

Aaron Dalton wrote:

fiëé visuëlle wrote:


Am 2008-10-08 um 07:43 schrieb Aaron Dalton:

I notice that the type1 fonts in the Lilypond distribution have the 
.PFB files but no .PFM files.  Are those downloadable somewhere?  
Windows needs both to install them.  I want to edit my pdf output in 
Illustrator but some elements are getting messed up due to font 
issues.  I found an old 2005 post but the site does not have the 
current fonts.




Certain fonts are not available in OTF format.  The feta fonts, for 
example, are only in SVG and type1 format.  If there's a way to use the 
SVG fonts in Windows, I'd appreciate any tips.  I can't seem to find 
anything.




To be clear, I'm looking at the 2.11.57 FreeBSD and the 2.11.61 Windows 
distributions.


Aaron



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Re: MIDI: turning off reverb

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Thanks Graham.  I didn't realize this (obviously) :)

Jon

Graham Percival wrote:

It's not in the docs because it's not lilypond.  Consult the docs
for your MIDI player and/or synth.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:52:25 -0500
Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can someone tell me how to disable the reverb effect that is used by 
default in the MIDI output?  I don't see anything about this in the

docs and the reverb is such that I can't hear individual lines very
well in my orchestral piece.  Oy...

Jon
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Percussion in Lilypond

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Just a note to say thanks to whoever implemented \drummode and wrote 
the docs for percussion.  I finally got around to checking this out 
today and I should have done it ages ago.  In my orchestral piece I'd 
been using normal mode in the percussion parts and having to do all 
sorts of overrides to get what I wanted when I could have used drummode 
and simplified everything.  Better late than never I guess :)


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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Note that the requested feature rather was to have a property setting
that lets you specify explicitly if you want the slur close to the note 
head or close to the end of the stem, as we used to have in old LilyPond 
versions, where you could do something like

\override Slur #'attachment = #'(stem . stem)
see 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Slur.html#Slur

for the full documentation.

The reply Han-Wen gave at that time, when the same feature request 
appeared, was that the new algorithm was intended to automatically do 
the right thing much more often than it used to do earlier and 
therefore the feature wasn't added immediately in the new 
implementation. I think we now have reason to reintroduce the feature.


  /Mats

Werner LEMBERG wrote:

To make sure that I don't misunderstand, does #'(2 . 2.5) mean
that the hight of the start and end points of the slur should be
set manually (in some units) for every slur?
  

Afraid so.



Han-Wen?  Any chance to improve the slur algorithm to fix this?


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Re: dynamics and midi

2008-10-08 Thread Mats Bengtsson

The dynamics should work automatically in the MIDI output!
Doesn't it for you? What LilyPond version?

  /Mats

Grammostola Rosea wrote:

Hi,

I made some score for my mama for practicing  vocals  How do I get 
those  dynamics in  the midi  output?




staffSoprano = \new Staff  {
   \time 4/4
   \set Staff.instrumentName=Soprano
   \set Staff.midiInstrument=choir aahs
   \key d \major
   \clef treble
   \relative c' {\context Voice = melodySop {
   \dynamicUp% Type notes here
\autoBeamOff
g''1 | fis2 r2 | g4.\ff g8 g4 g4 | g2. g4 | e4.\p e8 fis2 |
cis4. cis8 d4 fis | fis1 | e2 r4 a,4\f | fis'2. fis4 | e2. e8 e | g2 
g4 g | fis2. fis8 fis |

g2. g4 | fis8. a16 a8 a fis4 d | a2 r4 e'8\p e | e2. e4 |

   }

   \bar |.
   }

}


\score {
   
   \staffSoprano
 
 \midi {
   }

   \layout  {
   }
}

\paper {
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Re: unusual Alto Clef

2008-10-08 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Werner LEMBERG 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



When I was working on the ill-fated Ravel String Quartet passage as
an unfretted strings headword, I noticed that the original score had
a very cool-looking alto clef.  I know Lilypond has tons of
odd-looking objects for early music, but I couldn't find a replica
of this clef.  Does a clef like the one in the attached png image
exist in Lilypond?


No.  Please make a report to bug-lilypond so that it gets added to the
wishlist.

I think it's quite a common clef, actually. I come across a moderate 
amount of alto clef stuff (naturally, seeing as I'm a trombonist :-) and 
I've met exactly this clef (up a third, of course) on many occasions.


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: unusual Alto Clef

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Anthony W. Youngman wrote:



No.  Please make a report to bug-lilypond so that it gets added to the
wishlist.

I think it's quite a common clef, actually. I come across a moderate 
amount of alto clef stuff (naturally, seeing as I'm a trombonist :-) and 
I've met exactly this clef (up a third, of course) on many occasions.


Cheers,
Wol


All the more reason to have it available to us!  I've submitted the 
request to bug-lily as suggested so perhaps it will appear in a future 
release.


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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-08 Thread Robin Bannister

Patrick McCarty wrote:
I agree with yours and Reinhold's idea to remove underlining and 
visited link colors in the TOC pane.  Should the same apply to the 
main doc pane? 



NAV BAR 

What I said about TOC scanning doesn't apply here; there is no list. 
There are probably two main sorts of usages: 
- very quick, where you are only concerned with the direction to step in. 
- slowish, where you read some of the names. 

Within the 2 * 3 grouping there is a semantic synergy 
e.g. the upper [ reinforces the lower [ (and vice versa) 
and symmetry of [ and ] reinforces their opposition. 
This effect makes selection for stepping easier. 
But when visited colours just the bottom row or just one side, the 
2 * 3 is fractured, and you have to look twice. [1] 
Otherwise it is just mottled and vaguely confusing. Slowish is even slower.


The previous/next section buttons are the best candidates for visited,
but it is precisely these buttons which will devalue this. See below. 



LANG BAR 

A language link will rarely indicate visited, and when it does, 
it is of no import (breadcrumbs unchanged). 



FOOTER 

These are exits, so who cares? 



MAIN TEXT

If there were only long text passages containing a few embedded links, 
then feel free to colour them visited. 
But it is mostly not like that: The links tend to be grouped into lists such as

- mini-TOCs
- References for 
- See also. 
Some of these lists have only one or two entries. 
But there is a very wide range: e.g. music-event or grob! 
I think the longish lists should not be mottled. 



CONCLUSION. 

Most of the above tends towards no visited colouring. 
And repeated consultations devalue visited here too. [2] 

And maybe another effect will be even more important: 
 the navbar makes it so easy to page through the document.
This browsing mode will be popular with those 
- who don't know what key to search for, or 
- who like navigating by png instead of navigating by title.
You stride down the corridor glancing in through the half-open doors. 

So my answer is yes; apply these changes to the main pane too. 



Cheers,
Robin


[1] but lt and gt don't have to be coloured too, do they?

[2] a partial workaround: learn spanish, french and german.



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Re: type1 lilypond fonts in windows

2008-10-08 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Aaron Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 fiëé visuëlle wrote:

 Am 2008-10-08 um 07:43 schrieb Aaron Dalton:

 I notice that the type1 fonts in the Lilypond distribution have the .PFB
 files but no .PFM files.  Are those downloadable somewhere?  Windows needs
 both to install them.  I want to edit my pdf output in Illustrator but some
 elements are getting messed up due to font issues.  I found an old 2005 post
 but the site does not have the current fonts.


 Certain fonts are not available in OTF format.  The feta fonts, for example,
 are only in SVG and type1 format.  If there's a way to use the SVG fonts in
 Windows, I'd appreciate any tips.  I can't seem to find anything.

Look for emmentaler-XX.otf, it is a superset of the feta font.


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Re: Notation Reference 1.8 Text : ready for review

2008-10-08 Thread Patrick Horgan

Graham Percival wrote:

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:40:48 -0700
Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

...muchly stuff elided...

Thanks, Graham, I laughed out loud in Pizza My Heart reading this until 
people were staring at me in envy!


Patrick


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Re: \mark, chords and notes collide

2008-10-08 Thread Patrick Horgan

Sebastian Menge wrote:

BTW: Does anyone know the latex-package layouts (as introduced in the
latex companion)? It renders the layout of a page with all properties
(margins etc) displayed by lines and text. Something similar would be
awful for lilypond. I always feel like groping in the dark with all
those properties and spacing etc.
  

I'm guessing someone else already replied to this, but if not:

\paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }


does what you want, I think.

Patrick


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Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-08 Thread Ari Torhamo
ke, 2008-10-08 kello 13:03 +0300, Risto Vääräniemi kirjoitti: 
 Terve Ari,
 
 2008/10/8 Ari Torhamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  It works, it works! Now I can get forward with what I'm doing :-)
 
  One more thing. I tried to add \lyricsto to the line above, but this
  caused an error message. I'm trying to align the lyrics to the melody,
  so that it wouldn't be necessary to add the durations by hand. Is there
  a way to get this to work with the structure I'm using?
 
 Try modifying the following lines like this:
 
 sopraano = \relative c'' \context Voice = sopraano {
 
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto sopraano \sanat
 
 (and of course Trevor's \accept trick.)
 
 This creates a voice context to which you can attach the lyrics.

Your advice worked, so I'm again one step closer to the goal :-) Your
wording This creates a voice context to which you can attach the
lyrics also helped me understand what I'm doing and why. 

The solution also caused a problem though. Some stems of the upper voice
on the upper staff were changed to wrong direction, eg. down. Any ideas
what might have caused this? I tried to move some items around in the
code, but could only make things worse.

Here's how the code looks at the moment:

...

\version 2.11.61
\paper { indent=0\cm }
\header { title = Ylistysveisu }

sopraano = \relative c'' \context Voice = sopraano { 
\key g \major 
\cadenzaOn  
g4( a b) b a2 gis 
\bar | 
a4 b c b a gis a1 
\bar | \break 
b2 a a a4( gis) a b c2( b) a2. b4\rest 
\bar | \break 
}
altto = \relative c' { 
d2( g4) g e2 e 
e4 g g g e e e1 
e2 e e e e4 g g1 e2. 
}
tenori = \relative c' { 
\clef bass 
\key g \major 
b4( c d) d c2 b 
c4 d e d c b c1 
d2 c c c4( b) c d e2( d) c2. 
}
basso = \relative c' { 
g2. g4 a2 e 
a4 g c, g' a e a a,1 
gis gis,2 a a, a a, a a,4( e) a g c,2( g') a2. d,4\rest 
}
sanat = \lyricmode { Y -- lis -- täm- me 
}

\score {
   \new PianoStaff \with { \accepts Lyrics }  
  \new Staff  
 { \sopraano } \\
 { \altto }
  
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto sopraano { \sanat }
  \new Staff 
 { \tenori } \\
 { \basso }
 
   
}

 Just out of curiosity... Are you using PianoStaff for music with
 lyrics in purpose instead of e.g. ChoirStaff?

The reason to use PianoStaff is to get the staves to start with braces
instead of brackets, nothing else (or at least I'm not aware of
anything else that I could achieve by using it). I discussed the
brace/bracket matter today, and the idea to use braces comes from the
fact that many older music books of the area of music in question use
braces instead of brackets. If braces are difficult to implement, using
brackets isn't ruled out. They have been used along with braces. I'm more the 
technical guy here (yes, really :-) helping
another person to start using Lilypond, so to know what the result
should look like I either have to look at the examples I have at hand, or ask 
the the person I'm teaching.

Thanks for your help :-)

Ari



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