Re:Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Ossie Wilson Snr
I am using LP 2.8.6 on a Windows 98 300MHz machine.

 

My current problem is in transposing a song (for a grand daughter) and a
whole bunch of double accidentals and natural/accidental combinations have
turned up in the resultant printout - not too good for fast recognition by
the accompanist (according to my wife). I have found a snippet quoted in NR
1.1.2 for LP 2.12.2 which looks like it could do a simplifying job on the
music, but is designed for another notation language other than English. As
I wouldn't know an 'es' or an 'is' if I fell over them and know nothing
about scheme, I am asking has someone already translated this for an English
notation and whether this snippet could be applied to LP 2.8.6.

 

Thanks in advance to all who read and and can help.

 

Ossie Wilson

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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread David Bobroff
Maybe if you posted your *.ly file we could give you a more informative 
answer.  Without seeing that it is difficult to diagnose your problem.


-David

Ossie Wilson Snr wrote:

I am using LP 2.8.6 on a Windows 98 300MHz machine.

 


My current problem is in transposing a song (for a grand daughter) and a
whole bunch of double accidentals and natural/accidental combinations have
turned up in the resultant printout - not too good for fast recognition by
the accompanist (according to my wife). I have found a snippet quoted in NR
1.1.2 for LP 2.12.2 which looks like it could do a simplifying job on the
music, but is designed for another notation language other than English. As
I wouldn't know an 'es' or an 'is' if I fell over them and know nothing
about scheme, I am asking has someone already translated this for an English
notation and whether this snippet could be applied to LP 2.8.6.

 


Thanks in advance to all who read and and can help.

 


Ossie Wilson






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Re: Stopping a melismata extender

2009-03-30 Thread Johan Vromans
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes:

  I found one hack to accomplish this: give the third note a 'lyric'
  syllable consisting of a single hard space. But I'm sure there are
  better ways.
 
 I don't know if it's better, but I've defined
 
 nullLyric = \markup \null

Yes this is better. It does not occupy (vertical) space so the staves
can be put closer together. See the attached images. The first image
uses a hard space in the first syllable of the voice 2, the second
image uses the nullLyric.

Thanks!

-- Johan

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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/3/30 Ossie Wilson Snr os...@exemail.com.au:
 I am using LP 2.8.6 on a Windows 98 300MHz machine.



 My current problem is in transposing a song (for a grand daughter) and a
 whole bunch of double accidentals and natural/accidental combinations have
 turned up in the resultant printout – not too good for fast recognition by
 the accompanist (according to my wife). I have found a snippet quoted in NR
 1.1.2 for LP 2.12.2 which looks like it could do a simplifying job on the
 music, but is designed for another notation language other than English. As
 I wouldn’t know an ‘es’ or an ‘is’ if I fell over them and know nothing
 about scheme, I am asking has someone already translated this for an English
 notation and whether this snippet could be applied to LP 2.8.6.


The snippet you mention is language-independent. I have tested it on
Spanish note names by inserting \include espanol.ly before any
explicit note name is invoked. Just insert your language command for
English at the top and write all the note names in English.

If the snippet does not apply to 2.8.6 is another question.

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)


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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/3/30 Ossie Wilson Snr os...@exemail.com.au:
 My current problem is in transposing a song (for a grand daughter) and a
 whole bunch of double accidentals and natural/accidental combinations have
 turned up in the resultant printout – not too good for fast recognition by
 the accompanist (according to my wife).

Also choose carefully a transpose interval which does not give too
much accidentals. For example, given a tune with sharps in the key
signature, if you want it to be transposed half a step up, do not try
to transpose it from c to c sharp, because you'll end with many double
sharps. Transpose it from c to d flat, which has the same effect but
simplifies the resulting key. Also remember to include the original
\key command into the expression being transposed, if you want it to
be transposed as well.

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)


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Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zondag 29-03-2009 om 10:38 uur [tijdzone +], schreef dirk van der
eerden:

Hi Dirk,

[dit is een engelstalige lijst, kun je in het vervolg hier Engels 
praten?]

 probeer 2.12 te installeren, maar krijg waarschuwing uitgever onbekend, geen 
 digitale handtekening. Wordt geadviseerd niet te installeren.
 Graag advies.

wie geeft je dit advies?  welk programma geeft deze waarschuwing?  
welk besturingssysteem gebruik je?  waar heb je 2.12 gedownload?

ik geloof dat we downloads van lilypond.org gerust als veilig
kunnen beschouwen, maar Dirk heeft een punt: hoe controleert hij
[binary] downloads?

Groetjes,
Jan.

@translation
[this is an english list, can you please talk English here in the
future?]
 -- trying to install 2.12, but get warning publisher unknown, no
 digital signature.  Being advised not to install.
 Please advice.

who is giving you this advice?  what program gives this warning?
what operating system do you use?  where did you download 2.12?

I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe,
but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads?

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Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-30 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
 
 I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe,
 but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads?

Perhaps we could add a column with md5sums of all the installers to
the download page?  This would be useful, IMO, but would probably take
some effort to implement in GUB.


-Patrick


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Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly (from NtEd author)

2009-03-30 Thread Joerg Anders

Hi all!

Here some remarks by the author of NtEd concerning sib2ly
and the mail by Johan Vromans:

  NtEd has problems importing the MIDI. It seems to insist on putting
  the 4 voices on a single staff.

Indeed, NtEd is the one and only LINUX software which distributes
the MIDI notes onto multiple voices per staff. This is necessary in many cases.
All other LINUX software MIDI tools produce nonsense if the MIDI --
score process would actually require multiple voices per staff.

But true is also: The NtEd MIDI import is buggy,
it crashes and hangs :-((

I'm about to implement a new algoritm which partly works but will be
published not until May.  This will have an appropriate button:
Place different MIDI tracks at different staves.

Let me explain why the 4 MIDI tracks appear on one staff: There are MIDI
files where every staff is in one track. But there are
also MIDI files which contain less tracks than instruments.

The worst case is: All instruments are in one track. Many
music keyboards produce MIDI files of this kind. How is it possible?

There is a MIDI command: MIDI PROGRAM CHANGE (PGM), which
switches the instrument. A MIDI file of this sort looks like:

  PGM flute: note c; PGM piano: note d; PGM organ: note f; a.s.o.

Of course, I cannot collect these different instruments in one
staff. Therefore, I first separate the notes according to
the instrument which shall play them. Unfortunately, this
algorithm sorts 4 flutes which appear in 4 tracks into one
staff :-((

As already mentioned: There will be a button ...

--
J.Anders, GERMANY, TU Chemnitz, Fakultaet fuer Informatik


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Re: invisible slurs in tablature

2009-03-30 Thread Grammostola Rosea

Marc Hohl wrote:

Grammostola Rosea schrieb:

Neil Puttock wrote:

2009/3/28 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
 

Hi,

I want to get invisible slurs in tablature... how?



Simply \override Slur #'transparent in the same way as you've done for
the other objects in your TabStaff context.

Why aren't you using ties though
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Writing-rhythms#Ties)? 



  

You're right, thanks!

Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, 
Stems etc. default imo.


I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be 
archieved with a simple

command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet).

Marc

I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around:

\tabNumbers


Regards,

\r



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Re: invisible slurs in tablature

2009-03-30 Thread Grammostola Rosea

Grammostola Rosea wrote:

Marc Hohl wrote:

Grammostola Rosea schrieb:

Neil Puttock wrote:

2009/3/28 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
 

Hi,

I want to get invisible slurs in tablature... how?



Simply \override Slur #'transparent in the same way as you've done for
the other objects in your TabStaff context.

Why aren't you using ties though
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Writing-rhythms#Ties)? 



  

You're right, thanks!

Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, 
Stems etc. default imo.


I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be 
archieved with a simple

command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet).

Marc

I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around:

\tabNumbers

Uh   no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set 
things on instead of off...
So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add 
stems etc there is a command for it.


A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be 
nice maybe?


\tabSignsAll   (or something like that)

\r




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Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-30 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:

 I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe,
 but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads?

 Perhaps we could add a column with md5sums of all the installers to
 the download page?  This would be useful, IMO, but would probably take
 some effort to implement in GUB.

Not only that, but it's a PITA to check an MD5-sum in Windows!

The message he got probably originated form Windows XP or Vista.

Christ van Willegen


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Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly (from NtEd author)

2009-03-30 Thread Johan Vromans
Joerg Anders j.and...@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de writes:

 Therefore, I first separate the notes according to the instrument
 which shall play them. Unfortunately, this algorithm sorts 4 flutes
 which appear in 4 tracks into one staff :-((

Aha! But then the workaround is simple: just assign each track a
different instrument. Having written MIDI::Tweaks[1] this is a piece
of cake ;).

After that I ran in the following problem: NtEd occasionally produces
notes that are not in the midi data. So in the LP export I get
StaffAVoiceA with all notes, and StaffAVoiceB with all rests and a
spurious note.

Also it sometimes gets the accidentals wrong because apparently the
key signature is applied to the first track only. So with key F major,
note 70 on track 1 becomes B flat, but on the other tracks it becomes
A sharp.

I've got demo data if you're interested. Contact me off-list.

-- Johan

[1] http://search.cpan.org/~jv/MIDI-Tweaks/lib/MIDI/Tweaks.pm


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Change fontsize for textscript under acciaccatura?

2009-03-30 Thread Roel Spruit
Hey guys,

Is there any way to change the fontsize for textscript above
acciaccatura for an entire piece? I have drum sticking under it
but I'd like it to be smaller is it's a grace note or acciaccatura.

Regards,

Roel


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Re: Change fontsize for textscript under acciaccatura?

2009-03-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson

It should work to add the following lines at the top of your file

startAcciaccaturaMusic =  {
   s1*0(
   \override Stem  #'stroke-style = #grace
   \override TextScript font-size = #-2
}

stopAcciaccaturaMusic =  {
   \revert Stem #'stroke-style
   \revert TextScript font-size
   s1*0)
}


  /Mats


Roel Spruit wrote:

Hey guys,

Is there any way to change the fontsize for textscript above
acciaccatura for an entire piece? I have drum sticking under it
but I'd like it to be smaller is it's a grace note or acciaccatura.

Regards,

Roel


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Re: Change fontsize for textscript under acciaccatura?

2009-03-30 Thread Roel Spruit
Excellent!

you forgot a  #' in front of the font-size I think though. after
adding that it worked like a charm.

thanks for helping a poor newbie :)

Roel

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 13:38, Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote:
 It should work to add the following lines at the top of your file

 startAcciaccaturaMusic =  {
   s1*0(
   \override Stem  #'stroke-style = #grace
   \override TextScript font-size = #-2
 }

 stopAcciaccaturaMusic =  {
   \revert Stem #'stroke-style
   \revert TextScript font-size
   s1*0)
 }


  /Mats


 Roel Spruit wrote:

 Hey guys,

 Is there any way to change the fontsize for textscript above
 acciaccatura for an entire piece? I have drum sticking under it
 but I'd like it to be smaller is it's a grace note or acciaccatura.

 Regards,

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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 3/30/09 5:07 AM, Ossie Wilson Snr os...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Good evening David and Francisco
  
 I tried the snippet in my Ly file but there was no change to the pdf file
 output. There were no errors flagged in the Log file ­ just a record of
 straight-forward processing.
  
 I then tried the snippet example but using English notation for the notes
 involved and there was an error about the ( prior to the Olet¹ and no output.
  
 I have attached the Ly file with the snippet definition in it (I possibly have
 placed it incorrectly) for your perusal as David requested.
  
 Thanks for your interest.

I don't know if the snippet will work with 2.8.6 or not. [1]  But in your
.ly file you define a music function naturalizeMusic, but you never call it.

It would normally be called by something like

\naturalizeMusic {
  \transpose g ds {
 \melodytwo
  }
}

I haven't compiled your file to see if this works or not, but I would expect
it to.

Hope this helps,

Carl Sorensen

1. Is there a reason why you need to use LilyPond 2.8.6?  I'd recommend
switching to 2.12.



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increasing the distance between tie and note generally

2009-03-30 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community,
in the below quoted snippet the position of the tie isn't convincing,
in my opinion. It should be al little further apart from the
notes. Off couse I could type \override Tie #'staff-position all the
time, but I would be interested in tweaking it generally.
Is there a possibilitie?
Here the short snippet:

BEGIN
\version 2.12.1
global = { \time 3/4 }
notes = \relative { \times 2/3 {e 16 g, e'~ } e8 ~ e2 ~ \break e 2. \break }

\new Staff { \global \transpose c c'  \notes \notes
 \override Tie #'staff-position = #5.5  \transpose c c'  \notes %this
looks convincing
\notes %this does not!
}
%END


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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 3/30/09 5:07 AM, Ossie Wilson Snr os...@exemail.com.au wrote:

Ossie,

The snippet in question appears to be broken.  I'll try to get you a fixed
version in a day or two.

Thanks,

Carl



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Re:Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Ossie Wilson Snr
Good evening David and Francisco

 

I tried the snippet in my Ly file but there was no change to the pdf file
output. There were no errors flagged in the Log file - just a record of
straight-forward processing.

 

I then tried the snippet example but using English notation for the notes
involved and there was an error about the ( prior to the 'let' and no
output.

 

I have attached the Ly file with the snippet definition in it (I possibly
have placed it incorrectly) for your perusal as David requested.

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Ossie Wilson



Charlotte_IfILovedYou.ly
Description: Binary data
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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Robin Bannister

Ossie Wilson wrote:
I have attached the Ly file 


After a cursory look, I would say this file is 
badly mangled as regards key signatures. 

In part one at bar 29 it helps to say 
\key dfinstead of\key cs   
because the subseqent notes are e.g. df, gf, ...


Also part one should declare _at_least_  one 
additional key change:  at bar 13,  to \key gf \major 
This is odd because to insert this in the low voices 
you have to first split up the initial 26 silent bars. 

But then again, at the top it says 
 Generated from a MIDI File by LyFromMIDI ...


So \transpose isn't really your problem at the moment.  
You have to get it looking right in the original first. 


Cheers,
Robin

P.S. And yes, Win98 users are stuck at 2.8. \version 2.8.6
\paper {
#(set-paper-size a4)
line-width = 20\cm
print-page-number =##t
printfirst-page-number = ##t
between-system-space = 0.1 \cm
after-title-space = 0.1 \cm
ragged-bottom =##f
ragged-first-bottom = ##f
top-margin = 0.16 \cm
head-separation = 0.04 \cm
bottom-margin = 0.1 \cm
left-margin = 0.4 \cm
}
	
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\include english.ly

\header {
   composer =  Richard Rodgers
   poet = Oscar Hammerstein II
   copyright =%Copyright © 2006 by O.A.Wilson
   title = If I Loved You
   subtitle = 
   tagline =   % Generated from a MIDI File by LyFromMIDI and then Typeset by LilyPond
}


melodyone =   {
 \time  2/4
 \key g \major
 \clef treble 
 \stemNeutral  

% Bar  1 
 \tempo 4 = 104
 R1*2/4 
% Bar  2 
 R1*2/4 
% Bar  3
 R1*2/4  
% Bar  4
  r4 d'8 d'  \break   
% Bar  5
  g'4 g'8 g'   
% Bar  6
 g'2 
% Bar  7
 g'8 d' g' a'
% Bar  8
 g'4 r8 d'8  \break
% Bar  9
 g'4 g'8 g'
% Bar  10
 g'8. d'16 g'8 a'
% Bar  11
 g'2 ~
% Bar  12
 g'4 r8 g'8  \break
% Bar  13
 \key gf \major
 gf'8. gf'16 gf'8 gf'
% Bar  14
 gf'8 gf'4 gf'8
% Bar  15
 gf'8. gf'16 gf'8 gf'
% Bar  16
 gf'8 r8 gf'8 gf'   \break
% Bar  17
 gf'4. gf'8
% Bar  18
 gf'4 gf'8 gf'
% Bar  19
 gf'2 ~   \break
% Bar  20
 gf'8 \breathe r8 gf'8^\markup {\italic  {meno mosso } } gf'
% Bar  21
 bf'2
% Bar  22
 bf'2 ~
% Bar  23
 bf'2 ~  \break
% Bar  24
 bf'4^\fermata \breathe r8 bf'8
% Bar  25
 bf'8.^\markup {\italic { poco rit. }}  ef'16 ef'8 ef'
% Bar  26
 ef'4. ef'16 ef'
% Bar  27
 f'8 af' df' f'   \break
% Bar  28
 c'2^\fermata \bar || 
% Bar  29
 \key df \major
 \time 4/4 
 df'2^\markup {\italic a tempo ( \smaller \note #4 #1  = 82)} f'
% Bar  30
 bf'4 bf'2.  \break
% Bar  31
 df''4 ~ \times 2/3 {df''8 c'' bf'} af'4 ~ \times 2/3 {af'8 gf' f' } 
% Bar  32
 ef'4 df' f'2
% Bar  33
 ef'2 gf'  \break
% Bar  34
 c''4 c''2 df''4
% Bar  35
 af'1 ~
% Bar  36
  af'2. r4 \break
% Bar  37
 df'2^\markup {\italic piu mosso } f'
% Bar  38
 bf'4 bf'2.
% Bar  39
 df''4 ~ \times 2/3 {df''8 c'' bf'} af'4 ~ \times 2/3 {af'8 gf' f'} \break
% Bar  40
 ef'4 df' f'2 
% Bar  41
 ef'2 gf'
% Bar  42
 c''4 c''2 df''4  \break
% Bar  43
 df''1 ~
% Bar  44
 df''2 ~ df''4 r4  \mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.segno } 
% Bar  45
 \bar || df''2 c''4 bf'  \break
% Bar  46
 af'4 gf' r4 af'8 bf'
% Bar  47
 c''2 c''
% Bar  48
 c''2 ~ c''4. r8  \break
% Bar  49
 df''2 c''4 bf'
% Bar  50
 af'4 gf' af' bf'
% Bar  51
 ef''2 ef''  \break
% Bar  52
 ef''2 ~ ef''4. r8
% Bar  53
 df''2 f'
% Bar  54
 bf'4 bf'2.  \break
% Bar  55
 df''4 ~  \times 2/3 {df''8 c'' bf'} af'4 ~ \times 2/3 {af'8 gf' f' } 
% Bar  56
 ef'4 df' f'2
% Bar  57
 ef'2 gf'  \break
% Bar  58
 c''4 c''2 df''4^\markup { \hspace #3.4 to  CODA }  \mark \markup { \musicglyph #scripts.coda } 
% Bar  59
 f''1 ~
% Bar  60
 f''2. r4  \break
% Bar  61
 ef''2 f''
% Bar  62
 gf''4 gf''2. ~
% Bar  63
 gf''2. r4  \break
% Bar  64
 bf'2^\markup { \italic rit. } c''
% Bar  65
 df''4 df''2. ~
% Bar  66
 df''2 r2^\markup { \hspace #-4.5 {\large \bold {D.S. al   \raise #1 \musicglyph #scripts.coda   CODA }}}  \bar ||  \break
}

% End of Notes

melodytwo =   {
 \time  4/4
 \key df \major
 \clef treble 
 \stemNeutral 

% Bar  67
 \set Score.currentBarNumber = #67
 f''1^\markup { \hspace #'-4 \raise #2 { \large \bold \musicglyph #scripts.coda \raise #-1  CODA } }  ~
% Bar  68
 f''2. r4
% Bar  69
 ef''2 f''2  \break
% Bar  70
 gf''4 gf''2. ~ 
% Bar  71
 gf''2. r4
% Bar  72
 bf'2^\markup { \italic rit. }  c''
% Bar  73
 df''1^\markup { \italic a tempo }   \break
% Bar  74
 df''1 ~
% Bar  75
 df''1 ~ 
% Bar  76
 df''2. r4 \breathe
% Bar  77
 R1^\fermataMarkup  \break
% Bar  78   
 
 \bar |.
}


textone = \lyricmode {
 When I worked in the mill, weav -- ing at the loom, I'd gaze ab -- sent mind -- ed at the 

Lyrics and alternative repeats default behavior

2009-03-30 Thread Pekka Siponen
 I'm not top posting.
I find the behavior with lyrics and alternative repeats somewhat illogical.. 

For me the logical thing would be something like:
%---
\version 2.12.2  
\score {
  \new GrandStaff {
\new Staff {

  \new Voice = alku \relative c' { 
\repeat volta 2 { c d e f g a b c } 
\alternative {
{ d e f g }
{ d c b a }
}
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto alku { 
cx dx ex fx gx ax bx cx dI eI fI gI 
cy dy ey fy gy ay by cy 
dII cII bII aII }
  
}   
  }
}
% Places where lyrics should be:
% I = first ending
% II = second ending
% x = first stanza
% y = second stanza
%---

Also, if you don't want to have different stanzas, only repeat the same lyrics,
you could add \repeat volta and \alternative to the lyrics.

Perhaps in the future..?

-Pekka




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Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-30 Thread Ralph Palmer
I was able to download winMd5Sum for free from http://www.nullriver.com/.
Open the application (I have a shortcut on the desktop and just double click
the icon) and put in the path\filename for the file and the MD5Sum and go
for it.

Ralph

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Christ van Willegen
cvwille...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
 
  I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe,
  but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads?
 
  Perhaps we could add a column with md5sums of all the installers to
  the download page?  This would be useful, IMO, but would probably take
  some effort to implement in GUB.

 Not only that, but it's a PITA to check an MD5-sum in Windows!

 The message he got probably originated form Windows XP or Vista.

 Christ van Willegen


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Re: Lyrics and alternative repeats default behavior

2009-03-30 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 30.03.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Pekka Siponen:


I'm not top posting.
I find the behavior with lyrics and alternative repeats somewhat  
illogical..


For me the logical thing would be something like:
%---
\version 2.12.2
\score {
  \new GrandStaff {
\new Staff {

  \new Voice = alku \relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { c d e f g a b c }
\alternative {
{ d e f g }
{ d c b a }
}
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto alku {
cx dx ex fx gx ax bx cx dI eI fI gI
cy dy ey fy gy ay by cy
dII cII bII aII }



}   
  }
}
% Places where lyrics should be:
% I = first ending
% II = second ending
% x = first stanza
% y = second stanza
%---

Also, if you don't want to have different stanzas, only repeat the  
same lyrics,

you could add \repeat volta and \alternative to the lyrics.

Perhaps in the future..?


You can add \repeat and \alternative to the lyrics. Different stanzas  
are entered separately. So, your example would be easily notated in  
lilypond so:

\version 2.12.2

\score {
\new Staff 
\new Voice = alku \relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { c d e f g a b c }
\alternative {
{ d e f g }
{ d c b a }
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto alku {
\set stanza = First Stanza 
\repeat volta 2 { cx dx ex fx gx ax bx cx }
\alternative {
{ dI eI fI gI }
{ dII cII bII aII }
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto alku {
\set stanza = Second Stanza 
cy dy ey fy gy ay by cy
}

}



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Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Payne
The padding that is applied to fingering on the left when there is an
accidental is greater than when there is no accidental. From my measurements
it seems to default to 0.5 staff units from a note but 0.7 units from an
accidental, which looks odd to me. Is it possible to reduce the default
padding from accidentals without having to issue a tweak for every
occurrence and without changing the padding when there is no accidental?

\version 2.12.2

\relative c' {
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
f-2 e'-34 fis-2 eis'-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(0.2 . 0)-3
}

Nick
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Re: download versie 2.12

2009-03-30 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
It would be trivial, but as the md5sums would be autogenerated, so it
does not buy any protection against anything.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26:29AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:

 I believe we can consider downloads from lilypond.org to be safe,
 but Dirk does have a point: how does he verify [binary] downloads?

 Perhaps we could add a column with md5sums of all the installers to
 the download page?  This would be useful, IMO, but would probably take
 some effort to implement in GUB.





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Re: Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/3/30 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
 The padding that is applied to fingering on the left when there is an
 accidental is greater than when there is no accidental. From my measurements
 it seems to default to 0.5 staff units from a note but 0.7 units from an
 accidental, which looks odd to me. Is it possible to reduce the default
 padding from accidentals without having to issue a tweak for every
 occurrence and without changing the padding when there is no accidental?

Your measurements are accurate. :)

The padding between fingerings and accidentals is the sum of Fingering
#'padding (0.5) and AccidentalPlacement #'left-padding (0.2).

This should produce the same effect as your tweak:

\relative c' {
  \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
  \override Staff.AccidentalPlacement #'left-padding = #0
  f-2 e'-34 fis-2 eis'-3
}

Regards,
Neil


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Re: increasing the distance between tie and note generally

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/3/30 Stefan Thomas kontrapunktste...@googlemail.com:
 Dear community,
 in the below quoted snippet the position of the tie isn't convincing,
 in my opinion. It should be al little further apart from the
 notes. Off couse I could type \override Tie #'staff-position all the
 time, but I would be interested in tweaking it generally.
 Is there a possibilitie?

Try this:

\override Tie #'staff-position =
#(lambda (grob)
   (let* ((head (ly:grob-parent (ly:grob-original grob) X))
  (head-pos (ly:grob-staff-position head)))
 (cond
  ((= head-pos 3)  (+ head-pos 2.5))
  ((= head-pos -3) (- head-pos 2.5)

Regards,
Neil


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Re: snappizzicato on 2.13

2009-03-30 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/3/29 Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com:

 Since the mf/ directory is changed so infrequently, it would be nice
 if the fonts could be recompiled whenever mf/*.mf is changed.

 That way we won't ever have this problem again.

 Good idea?

Definitely.

Regards,
Neil


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RE: Fingering padding with accidentals

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Payne
 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Puttock [mailto:n.putt...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 07:07
 To: Nick Payne
 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Subject: Re: Fingering padding with accidentals
 
 2009/3/30 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net:
  The padding that is applied to fingering on the left when there is an
  accidental is greater than when there is no accidental. From my
 measurements
  it seems to default to 0.5 staff units from a note but 0.7 units from
 an
  accidental, which looks odd to me. Is it possible to reduce the
 default
  padding from accidentals without having to issue a tweak for every
  occurrence and without changing the padding when there is no
 accidental?
 
 Your measurements are accurate. :)
 
 The padding between fingerings and accidentals is the sum of Fingering
 #'padding (0.5) and AccidentalPlacement #'left-padding (0.2).
 
 This should produce the same effect as your tweak:
 
 \relative c' {
   \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
   \override Staff.AccidentalPlacement #'left-padding = #0
   f-2 e'-34 fis-2 eis'-3
 }
 
Thanks. Does exactly what I want.

Nick



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Re:Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Ossie Wilson Snr
Good Morning Robin

 

Robin Bannister wrote :-

After a cursory look, I would say this file is badly mangled as regards key
signatures. 

In part one at bar 29 it helps to say 

\key dfinstead of\key cs   

because the subseqent notes are e.g. df, gf, ...

The original key is df but it was changed in an attempt to get rid of double
flats.

Also part one should declare _at_least_  one additional key change:  at bar
13,  to \key gf \major This is odd because to insert this in the low
voices you have to first split up the initial 26 silent bars. 

You had better tell Richard Rogers that - I am working from a copy of the
printed score.

But then again, at the top it says

  Generated from a MIDI File by LyFromMIDI ...

I believe that is blocked with a blank. It is a residual from my templates.
I have this Visual Basic programme that will convert MIDI to Ly if the
conditions are right and it has been used on occasions when no paper copy is
available. Part of the programme allows me to edit the Ly file and I use
this to hand enter from paper copies.

So \transpose isn't really your problem at the moment.  

You have to get it looking right in the original first. 

The original Ly file did produce an exact (well near enough) copy of the
paper copy I was working from but it removed all the chord names which I
believe a skilled pianist who can read music readily does not require. As
for me, I am no musician of any sort and printed music is a lot of lines and
dots on sticks, like looking into a paddock through the wire fence at the
remains of a wooded paddock after a bushfire has gone through it. I am
forbidden to hum, whistle, sing (?) because I have no notion of pitch or
timing - but I do enjoy listening to good music.

 

And yes, Win98 users are stuck at 2.8.

I do have computers with much faster chips and later versions, but I am
still waiting for a stable version to appear. I thought it would be 2.12 but
now there is talk of 2.14 in the next couple of months so heres hoping that
we will get a new command \nbd (no bloody doubles) included  in it.

 

At least I didn't draw fire from Graham Percival because I did at least read
the appropriate section of his new documentation even though Carl says that
snippet is broken (in docs for the latest 'stable' version).

 

Thanks for your help - one of the good things about LP is the band of
willing helpers.

 

Ossie. 

 

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re: various ornaments

2009-03-30 Thread 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng
Have anyone figure out what are the difference of these ornaments I refferred 
yesterday?
Another thing: c\turn only places turn above c, thus c\turn e must be played as 
d16 c b c e4 . But I want to write a turn between c and e, thus played as c8 
d32 c b c e4 . How to do that?
Haipeng


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Re: Transpose

2009-03-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 3/30/09 4:58 PM, Ossie Wilson Snr os...@exemail.com.au wrote:

  
 And yes, Win98 users are stuck at 2.8.
 I do have computers with much faster chips and later versions, but I am still
 waiting for a stable version to appear. I thought it would be 2.12 but now
 there is talk of 2.14 in the next couple of months so heres hoping that we
 will get a new command \nbd (no bloody doubles) included  in it.

If I were you, I'd upgrade to 2.12.  2.12 is a stable version.  There will
be a 2.14, but 2.12 is so much better than 2.8 that you ought to give it a
shot, in my opinion.

  
 At least I didn¹t draw fire from Graham Percival because I did at least read
 the appropriate section of his new documentation even though Carl says that
 snippet is broken (in docs for the latest Ostable¹ version).

I haven't checked the snippet in the docs; I was just referring to the
version in your file.  It's broken at least by missing a paragraph (or at
least is was when I copied it into my file; I think that may be why you got
the error you did.

But I think that it doesn't work right for large transpose values.

Thanks,

Carl



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Re: various ornaments

2009-03-30 Thread lily . user

Turn after a note I write as:

  { c4 d4} \\ {s8. s16\turn s4}

This *looks* right, (adjust the s8. and s16 to move the turn; they
must add up to a crotchet).

It doesn;t sound in the MIDI output, and there's no easy way to make
it.

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Re: various ornaments

2009-03-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Peter and Hu,


Turn after a note I write as:
  { c4 d4} \\ {s8. s16\turn s4}
This *looks* right, (adjust the s8. and s16 to move the turn; they  
must add up to a crotchet).
It doesn;t sound in the MIDI output, and there's no easy way to  
make it.


Why not just offset the turn?

\version 2.12.1
moveTurn = \once \override Script #'X-offset = #2
theMusic = \relative { \moveTurn c'4\turn d4 }
\score { \theMusic }

Hope that helps,
Kieren.


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