Re: invisible slurs in tablature
Grammostola Rosea schrieb: Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, Stems etc. default imo. I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be archieved with a simple command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet). Marc I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around: \tabNumbers Uh no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set things on instead of off... So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add stems etc there is a command for it. A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be nice maybe? \tabSignsAll (or something like that) \r I don't know how to make the stems and such disappear by default, but using a simple command isn't that much effort. I have attached my tablature.ly which allows to switch between the "normal" and the "numbers only" settings. Both versions feature a modern tab clef. I don't know whether the time signature should disappear by default, but I use the NumbersOnly settings only when a normal staff and a tab staff are displayed together. Comments, improvements etc. are welcome! Marc % tablature.ly % ein schönerer TAB-Schlüssel % http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=323 gitTAB = \markup { \raise #1.5 { \override #'(font-family . sans) \bold\huge \override #'(baseline-skip . 2.5) \column { "T" "A" "B" } } } modernTABClef = { \override TabStaff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override TabStaff.Clef #'text = #gitTAB } tabNumbersOnly = { % no time signature \override TabStaff.TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t % no stems, beams, dots \override TabVoice.Stem #'transparent = ##t \override TabVoice.Beam #'transparent = ##t \override TabVoice.Dots #'transparent = ##t \override TabVoice.Slur #'transparent = ##t % no tuplet stuff \override TabVoice.TupletBracket #'transparent = ##t \override TabVoice.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t % modern TAB clef \modernTABClef } tabNumbersAndStems = { \revert TabStaff.TimeSignature #'transparent \revert TabVoice.Stem #'transparent \revert TabVoice.Beam #'transparent \revert TabVoice.Dots #'transparent \revert TabVoice.Slur #'transparent \revert TabVoice.TupletBracket #'transparent \revert TabVoice.TupletNumber #'transparent \modernTABClef } \version "2.12.2" \include "tablature.ly" tab = { \time 3/4 c4 d( e) f g a \times 3/4 { b c d c } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar numbers only" { \tabNumbersOnly \tab } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar full tab" { \tabNumbersAndStems \tab } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Various ornaments, please help me
hi, On 30 Mar 2009, at 22:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote: BTW, how to write "bebbung" (trembling) using Lilypond? The word is called `Bebung' (note the single `b'). I've never seen a notated Bebung, so I can't comment how to represent it with Lilypond. not sure if this helps, but here's a description of how it sounds, is executed and notated, found by google-fu: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Bebung a topic on a finale user's list also has some references to standard musicological works and confirms that it is notated with a series of dots over the note: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/fin...@shsu.edu/7720576.html hth, sb -- Simon Bailey Oompa Loompa of Science +43 699 190 631 25 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:Re: Various ornaments, please help me
Thanks. I know the notation and meaning (I have Grove in both html and braille (concise version in braille)), but it seems that Lilypond can't generate it. I still can't figure out what's the difference between mordents and various pralls :-) Haipeng 在2009-03-31,"Simon Bailey" 写道: >hi, > >On 30 Mar 2009, at 22:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> BTW, how to write "bebbung" (trembling) using Lilypond? >> >> The word is called `Bebung' (note the single `b'). I've never seen a >> notated Bebung, so I can't comment how to represent it with Lilypond. > > >not sure if this helps, but here's a description of how it sounds, is >executed and notated, found by google-fu: > >http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Bebung > >a topic on a finale user's list also has some references to standard >musicological works and confirms that it is notated with a series of >dots over the note: > >http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/fin...@shsu.edu/7720576.html > >hth, >sb >-- >Simon Bailey >Oompa Loompa of Science >+43 699 190 631 25 >___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How do I fix the path?
Hi! I've got LilyPondTool installed in jEdit 4.3pre16 on my Ubuntu box, and I'm trying to make it work. Only trouble is, when I go to compile an .ly file it comes up a dialog with the following: Error running external command. See the activity log about the problem. Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin/python" (in directory "/home/fgg/Desktop/LilyPond Files"): java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory Looking at that, I see a mixture of \ and /. Obviously it thinks it's on a Windoze box somehow. So where to I find the right place to fix the path? And what do I put in there? Thanks as always for your help, Gordon+ -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do I fix the path?
2009/3/31 Father Gordon Gilbert : > Looking at that, I see a mixture of \ and /. Obviously it thinks it's on a > Windoze box somehow. So where to I find the right place to fix the path? > And what do I put in there? It's in Plugins > Plugin Options > LilyPondTool > General there you have to put /usr/local/bin instead of C:\ etc. You may also want to replace "C:\\Adobe Reader" with "evince" (or whatever PDF viewer you have). Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Various ornaments, please help me
On 31 Mar 2009, at 11:43, 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote: Thanks. I know the notation and meaning (I have Grove in both html and braille (concise version in braille)), but it seems that Lilypond can't generate it. I still can't figure out what's the difference between mordents and various pralls :-) my girlfriend, a clarinettist and oboist, comes across these ornamentations far more often than i do. she told me the following: mordent: single alteration down (c b c) prall: single alteration up (c d c) going by some other references (dolmetsch, kopprasch [iirc]), i think the following is how the other ones are interpreted: prallprall: double alteration up (c d c d c) prallmordent: up then down (c d c b c) upprall: prall preceded by a lower step (b c d c) downprall: prall preceded by the upper step (d c d c) upmordent: mordent preceded by the lower step (b c b c) downmordent: mordent preceded by the upper step (d c b c) pralldown: prall finishing with the lower step (c d c b) prallup: prall finishing with the upper step (c d c d) lineprall: your guess is as good as mine see the attached lilypond file for a possible interpretation. as with all ornaments, the exact timing is dependent on the period, the performer and which method he used to learn the ornaments from (kopprash for instance suggests a turn be performed as a triplet rather than as straigh 16ths...). and to all the musicologists: feel free to correct any rubbish i've just posted. regards, sb -- Simon Bailey Oompa Loompa of Science +43 699 190 631 25 ornaments.ly Description: Binary data ornaments.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics and alternative repeats default behavior
James E. Bailey wrote: Am 30.03.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Pekka Siponen: I find the behavior with lyrics and alternative repeats somewhat illogical.. For me the logical thing would be something like: %--- \version "2.12.2" \score { \new GrandStaff { \new Staff { << \new Voice = "alku" \relative c' { \repeat volta 2 { c d e f g a b c } \alternative { { d e f g } { d c b a } } } \new Lyrics \lyricsto "alku" { cx dx ex fx gx ax bx cx dI eI fI gI cy dy ey fy gy ay by cy dII cII bII aII } } } } % Places where lyrics should be: % I = first ending % II = second ending % x = first stanza % y = second stanza %--- Also, if you don't want to have different stanzas, only repeat the same lyrics, you could add "\repeat volta" and \alternative to the lyrics. Perhaps in the future..? You can add \repeat and \alternative to the lyrics. Different stanzas are entered separately. So, your example would be easily notated in lilypond so: \version "2.12.2" \score { \new Staff << \new Voice = "alku" \relative c' { \repeat volta 2 { c d e f g a b c } \alternative { { d e f g } { d c b a } } } \new Lyrics \lyricsto "alku" { \set stanza = "First Stanza " \repeat volta 2 { cx dx ex fx gx ax bx cx } \alternative { { dI eI fI gI } { dII cII bII aII } } } \new Lyrics \lyricsto "alku" { \set stanza = "Second Stanza " cy dy ey fy gy ay by cy } >> } I still find a problem with this approach; the second stanza is not connected to second ending.. If I wanted to put a longer word accross the barline, it wouldn't work..? Also this approach seems a little like something to trick LilyPond with to make it look ok. It would be nice if the syntax was more focused on the content and LilyPond would worry about the output with good default settings. At least in simple examples like this one. So.. what if the "words" were longer like this? \new Lyrics \lyricsto "alku" { cx dx ex fx gx ax bx -- cx -- dI -- eI fI gI cy dy ey fy gy ay by -- cy -- dII -- cII bII aII } -Pekka ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:51:36PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > It would be trivial, but as the md5sums would be autogenerated, so it > does not buy any protection against anything. I wouldn't say that. It would provide notification of a botched download (if anybody checks it), or notification of a very sophisicated man-in-the-middle attack whereby somebody attempts to hack a system by modifying lilypond tarballs. In order to gain a local-user account. Hey, I didn't claim that it would provide any **useful** protection, just that it could theoretically protect against something. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Does Nabble work ALWAYS?
Hello, I'm just wondering if Nabble shows ALL messages of this mailing list, or only Nabble-posted messages. I ask this because I found out that it didn't in other mailing lists with Nabble. Just for a matter of debug, please reply also to my address if you use mail client and not just Nabble!!! Thx Piero - Piero Faustini, PhD student Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche Sezione musicologia Università di Ferrara Main Software used: - LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP sp3; EndNote & JabRef - MikTex - LaTeX class: Koma book - Lilypond 2.12 for example excerpts - BibLaTeX for bibliographies -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Does-Nabble-work-ALWAYS--tp22804942p22804942.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 04:51:36PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >> It would be trivial, but as the md5sums would be autogenerated, so it >> does not buy any protection against anything. > > I wouldn't say that. It would provide notification of a botched > download (if anybody checks it), or notification of a very > sophisicated man-in-the-middle attack whereby somebody attempts to > hack a system by modifying lilypond tarballs. In order to gain a > local-user account. For the modifying tarballs version, the attacker could also change de MD5s as the webpages and the binaries are hosted on the same server. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:14:43AM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > I wouldn't say that. It would provide notification of a botched > > download (if anybody checks it), or notification of a very > > sophisicated man-in-the-middle attack whereby somebody attempts to > > hack a system by modifying lilypond tarballs. In order to gain a > > local-user account. > > For the modifying tarballs version, the attacker could also change de > MD5s as the webpages and the binaries are hosted on the same server. Hmm, good point. Now, I guess that we could start GPG-signing the md5s... but this is getting past the "idle speculation" phase and into "unrestrainedly ridiculous" phase. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Does Nabble work ALWAYS?
MonAmiPierrot wrote: Hello, I'm just wondering if Nabble shows ALL messages of this mailing list, or only Nabble-posted messages. I ask this because I found out that it didn't in other mailing lists with Nabble. Just for a matter of debug, please reply also to my address if you use mail client and not just Nabble!!! Thx Piero I always use Thunderbird to send messages to the list, and my messages always appear in the archives. Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Does Nabble work ALWAYS?
2009/3/31 MonAmiPierrot : > I'm just wondering if Nabble shows ALL messages of this mailing list, or > only Nabble-posted messages. It should show every messages. > I ask this because I found out that it didn't in other mailing lists with > Nabble. This is because the people in charge of those Nabble accounts didn't properly interface Nabble with the MLs (actually the Nabble robot has to subscribe to the list using a special mail address, so that Nabble receives all messages that go through the list). > Just for a matter of debug, please reply also to my address if you use mail > client and not just Nabble!!! I am no Nabbler, and yet you have already received mails from me :-) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invisible slurs in tablature
Marc Hohl wrote: Grammostola Rosea schrieb: Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, Stems etc. default imo. I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be archieved with a simple command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet). Marc I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around: \tabNumbers Uh no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set things on instead of off... So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add stems etc there is a command for it. A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be nice maybe? \tabSignsAll (or something like that) \r I don't know how to make the stems and such disappear by default, but using a simple command isn't that much effort. I have attached my tablature.ly which allows to switch between the "normal" and the "numbers only" settings. Both versions feature a modern tab clef. I don't know whether the time signature should disappear by default, but I use the NumbersOnly settings only when a normal staff and a tab staff are displayed together. Comments, improvements etc. are welcome! Marc Thanks for your work Marc! :) Maybe some lily devs can discuss how to make it default and make it possible to add things (dots, stems etc.). I tested it a bit and it seems to work ok. I don't know if articulations etc belongs in tab too? for example: \version "2.12.2" \include "tablature.ly" tab = { \time 3/4 c4. d-_( e\varcoda) ->f g~ a\prall g\thumb e-. f-. g-. \times 3/4 { b~ c d c } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar numbers only" { \tabNumbersOnly \tab } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar full tab" { \tabNumbersAndStems \tab } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics and alternative repeats default behavior
Tim McNamara wrote: I still find a problem with this approach; the second stanza is not connected to second ending.. Sure it is, but you'd put those words in the second \alternative ending. Looks a little odd in the source code, but the point of the source code is to render into good output on the page and not how the source code itself looks. If I wanted to put a longer word accross the barline, it wouldn't work..? Also this approach seems a little like something to trick LilyPond with to make it look ok. It would be nice if the syntax was more focused on the content and LilyPond would worry about the output with good default settings. At least in simple examples like this one. So.. what if the "words" were longer like this? \new Lyrics \lyricsto "alku" { cx dx ex fx gx ax bx -- cx -- dI -- eI fI gI cy dy ey fy gy ay by -- cy -- dII -- cII bII aII } My experience is that LilyPond does not easily handle lyrics crossing bar lines from the end of the first \alternative back to the top of the song, especially if there is a pickup note, but that may be my coding skills and not a problem in LilyPond itself (it may also be a limitation of using \addlyrics, which is the method I usually use). Hi Tim =) In my opinion there is great importance how the source code looks, especially in a program like lilypond, where all the input is done by hand, not by a program with a fancy user interface. Thus the syntax should be as user friendly as possible. Take XHTML for example, its main purpose is to define structure and content, not declare how everything should look. Maybe LilyPond should aim for the same thing..? =P This is the best that I have been able to come up with yet and it is not pretty.. \version "2.12.2" \score { << \new Voice = "melody" \relative c' { { \partial 2 c2 } \new Voice = "verse" \relative c' { \repeat volta 2 {c4 d e f | g1 | } \alternative { { c2 d } { e2 f } } } \relative c''' { a2 b | c1 } } \new Lyrics = "mainlyrics" \lyricsto melody { pick la si do } \context Lyrics = "mainlyrics" \lyricsto verse { \repeat volta 2 { do re mi fa sol } \alternative { { dom rem } { mim fam } } } \new Lyrics = "repeatlyrics" \lyricsto verse { dodo rere mimi fafa solsol- } >> } Or a more logical variation (still not pretty): \version "2.12.2" \score { << \new Voice = "melody" \relative c' { \new Voice = "pickup" { \partial 2 c2 } \new Voice = "verse" \relative c' { \repeat volta 2 {c4 d e f | g1 | } \alternative { { c2 d } { e2 f } } } \new Voice = "end" \relative c''' { a2 b | c1 } } \new Lyrics = "firstline" \lyricsto pickup { pick } \context Lyrics = "firstline" \lyricsto verse { \repeat volta 2 { do re mi fa sol } \alternative { { dom rem } { mim fam } } } \new Lyrics = "secondline" \lyricsto verse { dodo rere mimi fafa solsol- } \context Lyrics = "firstline" \lyricsto end { la si do } >> } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
The unknown publisher warning sounds like OP is running Vista. The warning is due to the fact that the installer isn't authenticode signed. Getting a suitable certificate for this is several hundred €/$ per year, and thus is not likely to happen. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
Op dinsdag 31-03-2009 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Simon Dahlbacka: > The unknown publisher warning sounds like OP is running Vista. The > warning is due to the fact that the installer isn't authenticode > signed. Getting a suitable certificate for this is several hundred €/$ > per year, and thus is not likely to happen. Does Microsoft Vista advice against installing anything that Microsoft did not make money off? That can't be true. Users won't accept that. Do you have a reference? Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:34 PM Op dinsdag 31-03-2009 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Simon Dahlbacka: The unknown publisher warning sounds like OP is running Vista. The warning is due to the fact that the installer isn't authenticode signed. Getting a suitable certificate for this is several hundred €/$ per year, and thus is not likely to happen. Does Microsoft Vista advice against installing anything that Microsoft did not make money off? No, when the mingw.exe is executed Vista pops up a panel which says the publisher can't be identified and gives the user the option to cancel or continue. The advice is to continue only if you have installed the program before or know where it is from. This is sensible enough - it provides a warning that to proceed will install a program (the user may not have intended to do this, so the warning helps to prevent the unintentional installation of malware). That can't be true. Users won't accept that. It's hardly a big deal to click OK once. An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital signature from its publisher. The warning may well scare off less knowledgeable people and prevent their installing LilyPond, so it would be an improvement if LilyPond could be digitally signed in a way recognised by MS. Do you have a reference? This check is part of MS's User Account Control. The check on installing applications is one of about a dozen checks performed by UAC. See "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" in the description of UAC at http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a0929908305665471033.mspx You need a X.509 version 3 code-signing certificate to sign an application. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962053.aspx For a full description of the process see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb172338.aspx Jan Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: repeat percent and chords
Robin, Yes, this is exactly what I was looking for! The MIDI file also plays the second chord that is replaced by the Repeat Percentage sign. For other readers: The two chords e:m e:m, when written as e:m \percentCN{e:m}, are written above the staff as: Em % Can this be included, in one way or another in Lilypond? Thanks again, Kees Robin Bannister schreef: > Kees Serier wrote: >> Looks good, but how to use it, I'm only a beginning Lilypond user :-( > > I have a vague feeling you may not have received my reply diagnosing > your arabic percent problem: >> Kees Serier wrote: >>> I get Guile errors GUILE signaled an error for expression started >>> here: >>> markup # >>>:bold #:fontsize 1 #:char #x066A >> >> Well, it works at my end. Something is corrupted. My best theory is >> that your version now ends >>> #'stencil = markup #:bold #:fontsize 1 #:char #x066A))) >> i.e. that the middle bit has disappeared. >> >> If it's not that, try this version with less Scheme in it: >> >> >> simile = \markup { \bold \fontsize #1 \char ##x066A } >> percentCN = \once \override ChordNames.ChordName #'stencil = >> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob simile)) > > > This third version replaces just the simile markup in the above first > line, so you should end up with: > > simile = \markup { > \combine \translate #'(0.3 . 1.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t \combine > \translate #'(1.7 . 0.5) \draw-circle #0.2 #0 ##t \rotate #90 > \translate #'(0 . 2) \beam #2 #-1 #0.5 } > percentCN = \once \override ChordNames.ChordName #'stencil = > #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob simile)) > > > Cheers, > Robin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Canorus 0.7 released
Matev Jekovec wrote: >Canorus development team is after more than a year of active development >happy to announce the new release of Canorus - a free cross-platform >music score editor, version 0.7. > >Release 0.6 was skipped for various stability issues. > >You can download it here: >http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6144 > >Changelog: >- Added support for printing and preview of score using LilyPond backend. >- Added integrated Midi recorder. >- Added resources storage inside the document. >- Added User's guide. Where? When I user Help|User's Guide in the Windows version, I get an empty pane on the right side. I've found one page on the website, which is a lot better than nothing, but if user's guide exists, I'd sure like to see it. -- Tim Slattery slatter...@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invisible slurs in tablature
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Marc Hohl wrote: Grammostola Rosea schrieb: Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, Stems etc. default imo. I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be archieved with a simple command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet). Marc I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around: \tabNumbers Uh no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set things on instead of off... So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add stems etc there is a command for it. A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be nice maybe? \tabSignsAll (or something like that) \r I don't know how to make the stems and such disappear by default, but using a simple command isn't that much effort. I have attached my tablature.ly which allows to switch between the "normal" and the "numbers only" settings. Both versions feature a modern tab clef. I don't know whether the time signature should disappear by default, but I use the NumbersOnly settings only when a normal staff and a tab staff are displayed together. Comments, improvements etc. are welcome! Marc Thanks for your work Marc! :) Maybe some lily devs can discuss how to make it default and make it possible to add things (dots, stems etc.). I tested it a bit and it seems to work ok. I don't know if articulations etc belongs in tab too? for example: \version "2.12.2" \include "tablature.ly" tab = { \time 3/4 c4. d-_( e\varcoda) ->f g~ a\prall g\thumb e-. f-. g-. \times 3/4 { b~ c d c } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar numbers only" { \tabNumbersOnly \tab } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar full tab" { \tabNumbersAndStems \tab } } I think you should also add: \override TabVoice.Tie #'transparent = ##t ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
Francisco Vila wrote Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:37 PM 2009/3/31 Trevor Daniels : (...) You need a X.509 version 3 code-signing certificate to sign an application. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962053.aspx For a full description of the process see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb172338.aspx What's the status of other pieces of free software such as firefox, for example, regarding to this? They vary, but Firefox has a recognised certificate which identifies the publisher as Mozilla Corporation. The certificate was issued by Thawte Code Signing CA. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
2009/3/31 Trevor Daniels : > (...) > You need a X.509 version 3 code-signing certificate to sign an application. > See > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc962053.aspx > > For a full description of the process see > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb172338.aspx What's the status of other pieces of free software such as firefox, for example, regarding to this? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Review of Valentin's Opera
Hello all, You all know that the language of the concert reviews is sometimes a bit 'special' and you'll understand my difficulties in the task of translating this one from a Spanish magazine, Ópera Actual. I beg your pardon for the numerous grammar inaccuracies. At the same time, you all know what's the relation between the article and LilyPond: although not mentioned in the text, the first opera by Valentin Villenave is licensed as free software, and it has been fully typeset using Lily. It has been a remarkable absolute première and the article gives a very good value to the work and the performance. I take this opportunity to say Kudos! to all the great lilyponders who are using, developing and promoting this great piece of software. % *Montpellier. Opéra Comédie Villenave: Affaire Étrangère; absolute premiere. N. Courjal, M. Di Sapia, C. Hunold, V. Cortez, D. Noble, Y. Saelens, C. Amoit. Conductor: S. Jean. Stage manager: R. Mitou. February 5, 2009 A foreigner arrived to an imaginary country, aboard a spacecraft. The king, who knew little about how to reign, influenced by the chief guard, decided to kill him as neither God nor the queen wanted to intervene in the decision. After some anything but trivial back and forth, it was the foreigner who ended up by sending all to the space and stayed as the new king. The story, antireligious without irreverence and anarchying without violence, was treated as a comic --Lewis Trondheim, author of the libretto, is a great specialist-- and garnered cheers and applauses at the curtain down. Valentin Villenave, in this his opera prima, illustrated the profuse text from his twenty-and-a-few years with inspired themes and varied and original orchestral combinations, very well interpreted from the pit by Samuel Jean, along with singing lines supported on the French prosody. Also the Richard Mitou's regia, simple and effective in a stylized framework by Pierre Heydorff contributed to the success of this premiere. While every voice defended his character with verve, were the contrasts of color, pitch ranges and rhythms who created the wealth of this vocal performance. This did not avoided us to applaud safety and virile emission of Marco Di Sapia (the foreigner), the elegant phrasing of Nicolas Courjal (the king), the subtlety and richness of timbre of Catherine Hunold (the queen), the power and clear elocution of Yves Saelens (chief guard), the excellent French diction of the Romanian singer Delia Noble (the doctor) and the presence of Viorica Cortez in the modest role of God. % You have a pretty-printable version behind of this link: http://www.paconet.org/opera-actual-v-villenave-montpellier.zip The opera has its own site: http://valentin.villenave.info/opera -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invisible slurs in tablature
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Grammostola Rosea wrote: Marc Hohl wrote: Grammostola Rosea schrieb: Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, Stems etc. default imo. I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be archieved with a simple command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet). Marc I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around: \tabNumbers Uh no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set things on instead of off... So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add stems etc there is a command for it. A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be nice maybe? \tabSignsAll (or something like that) \r I don't know how to make the stems and such disappear by default, but using a simple command isn't that much effort. I have attached my tablature.ly which allows to switch between the "normal" and the "numbers only" settings. Both versions feature a modern tab clef. I don't know whether the time signature should disappear by default, but I use the NumbersOnly settings only when a normal staff and a tab staff are displayed together. Comments, improvements etc. are welcome! Marc Thanks for your work Marc! :) Maybe some lily devs can discuss how to make it default and make it possible to add things (dots, stems etc.). I tested it a bit and it seems to work ok. I don't know if articulations etc belongs in tab too? for example: \version "2.12.2" \include "tablature.ly" tab = { \time 3/4 c4. d-_( e\varcoda) ->f g~ a\prall g\thumb e-. f-. g-. \times 3/4 { b~ c d c } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar numbers only" { \tabNumbersOnly \tab } } \score { \new TabStaff = "guitar full tab" { \tabNumbersAndStems \tab } } I think you should also add: \override TabVoice.Tie #'transparent = ##t I'm in doubt about that modern TAB sign... (all though it's always good to have some choices) I know most of the software / books display it like that, but should we follow that or fits the default tab sign better in Lilypond? \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invisible slurs in tablature
On 3/31/09 2:46 PM, "Grammostola Rosea" wrote: > Grammostola Rosea wrote: >> Marc Hohl wrote: >>> Grammostola Rosea schrieb: >>> >>> >>> Btw it's time to make tablature with invisible Ties, Slurs, Dots, >>> Stems etc. default imo. >>> >> I don't know whether this should be the default, but it should be >> archieved with a simple >> command, like \tabNumbersOnly (which isn't defined yet). >> >> Marc > I agree, all though I'm thinking the other way around: > > \tabNumbers > Uh no that is not what I meant. I meant that I rather have to set things on instead of off... So as I see it now, default is \tabNumersOnly and if you want to add stems etc there is a command for it. A command to set all such features (stems, dots, Tie etc.) on, would be nice maybe? \tabSignsAll (or something like that) \r >>> I don't know how to make the stems and such disappear by default, but >>> using a simple command >>> isn't that much effort. I have attached my tablature.ly which allows to >>> switch between the "normal" and >>> the "numbers only" settings. Both versions feature a modern tab clef. I >>> Comments, improvements etc. are welcome! >>> >>> Marc >> Thanks for your work Marc! :) >> >> Maybe some lily devs can discuss how to make it default and make it >> possible to add things (dots, stems etc.). >> >> I tested it a bit and it seems to work ok. I don't know if >> articulations etc belongs in tab too? >> >> for example: >> >> \version "2.12.2" >> \include "tablature.ly" >> >> tab = { >> \time 3/4 >> c4. d-_( e\varcoda) >> ->f g~ a\prall g\thumb e-. f-. g-. >> \times 3/4 { b~ c d c } >> } >> >> \score { >> \new TabStaff = "guitar numbers only" { \tabNumbersOnly \tab } >> } >> >> \score { >> \new TabStaff = "guitar full tab" { \tabNumbersAndStems \tab } >> } >> >> > I think you should also add: > > \override TabVoice.Tie #'transparent = ##t > > > If I understand correctly, you have a group of interested users who are working on defining how Tablature should behave. You also have a couple of tablature users who are interested in becoming Frogs and thus joining the development team (Marc is one of them, IIRC). When you have agreement as to what should be the default for tablature, then it will be time to add the changes to the distribution (and Marc would be an ideal person to do it). Right now, as I understand it, there are some users who regularly have TabStaffs without any other staff. These users need stems, beams, flags, ties, slurs, etc. There is also a group of users who regularly use TabStaff with Staff. These users want only numbers, because the beams, stems, slurs, ties, etc. are all in the regular music staff, and the TabStaff is only showing fret and string information. People who care strongly about tablature (of which I am *not* one) should be the people who make the decision about what the default should be. In fact, I don't think there's anybody on the core development team who is strongly interested in tablature. That being said, I don't think that the decision to make notes only or full music the default is a very important decision, as long as there is a single command to change to the other style. When the decision is made, and it's ready for submission to LilyPond, the defaults will be established in ly/engraver-init.ly The commands for changing from one to the other will be established in ly/property-init.ly. Marc, once you've got consensus, you can make the changes and roll me a patch, and I'll apply it. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: download versie 2.12
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: > They vary, but Firefox has a recognised certificate > which identifies the publisher as Mozilla Corporation. > The certificate was issued by Thawte Code Signing CA. ...and those certificates are $599. Ouch. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user